| Author | Message | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 342 Registered: 1-2010 |
Some people got a scrund about India by misinterpreting some information. What was the scrund and how did they get it? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4795 Registered: 5-2003 |
Anything to do with the Age of Exploration? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1409 Registered: 8-2001 |
Something about: Indian culture? Food? Language? Geography? Economy? History? India's relation to another country(countries)? Do the "some people" share something relevant in common? Where they live? Nationality? Language? Religion? Age? Gender? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 344 Registered: 1-2010 |
Anything to do with the Age of Exploration? yope. Something about: Indian culture? Food? Language? Geography? Economy? History? this. India's relation to another country(countries)? thisish, too. Do the "some people" share something relevant in common? Where they live? Nationality? Language? Religion? Age? Gender? no to all. They were all reading the same information, and got the same scrund, but nothing else about them is relevant. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3895 Registered: 9-2010 |
British Empire? Commonwealth of Nations vs. Commonwealth Realms? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 345 Registered: 1-2010 |
British Empire? yes, this is relevant, but the scrund was not about the British Empire. Commonwealth of Nations vs. Commonwealth Realms? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 346 Registered: 1-2010 |
British Empire? yes, this is relevant, but the scrund was not about the British Empire. Commonwealth of Nations vs. Commonwealth Realms? no. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1460 Registered: 8-2001 |
About something that happened while India was a British colony? Military history? Political history? Particular century relevant? Decade? Specific date? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 348 Registered: 1-2010 |
About something that happened while India was a British colony? yope. Military history? no. Political history? no. Particular century relevant? yes, very: the twentieth, and the twenty-first up to today. Decade? no. Specific date? no. | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 349 Registered: 1-2010 |
BLOOPER The year 1900 is actually quite relevant, although it could be replaced by any year in which India was entirely colonized. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1467 Registered: 8-2001 |
Does it have to do with how India became a British colony? Was India actually a protectorate or something? Does that matter? Does it have to do with the end of Colonial rule? Does the scrund have to do with the population of India vs. number of British there? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 351 Registered: 1-2010 |
Does it have to do with how India became a British colony? no. The people might not have even known that India was colonized, but the fact that it was colonized in 1900 is relevant. Was India actually a protectorate or something? I don't know. Does that matter? no, as long as it was basically part of the British Empire. Does it have to do with the end of Colonial rule? indirectly, but don't focus on that? Does the scrund have to do with the population of India vs. number of British there? not quite, but very OTRT. | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1489 Registered: 8-2001 |
Anything to do with Eddie Izzard? Anything to do with the expected ethnicity of someone born in India? (For some reason I'm thinking of the whole "Is someone born in South Africa and who is white "African-American"?) | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 357 Registered: 1-2010 |
Anything to do with Eddie Izzard? not at all. Anything to do with the expected ethnicity of someone born in India? no. (For some reason I'm thinking of the whole "Is someone born in South Africa and who is white "African-American"?) this is irrelevant. | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 367 Registered: 1-2010 |
HINT: The people either misread the information or did not know about India being British-ruled. The makeup of India's population is irrelevant. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 787 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is it relevant where the information is found? If I had this scrund, would I have a misunderstanding about Indian laws? Indian politics? Indian justice? Indian social mores? Indian languages? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 370 Registered: 1-2010 |
Is it relevant where the information is found? not where it was found, but what form the information was in. Explore. If I had this scrund, would I have a misunderstanding about Indian laws? Indian politics? Indian justice? Indian social mores? Indian languages? none of the above, but good question. Thank you for the first questions in a while. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 790 Registered: 9-2008 |
"Form" as in book? memo? newspaper? magazine? TV show? blog? forum? other internet source? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 388 Registered: 1-2010 |
"Form" as in book? memo? newspaper? magazine? TV show? blog? forum? other internet source? this, but irrelevant. | ||
| Dbw (Dbw)
New member Username: Dbw Post Number: 27 Registered: 6-2011 |
Does the scrund have to do with the fact that the word "India" was mistakenly applied to the Americas? In that vein, does it have to do with the "West Indies"? Does it have to do with "American Indians"? On a completely different track... Does it involve Language? English? Hindi? Does it have to do with the fact that there are many languages spoken in India? Does it have to do with the fact (and/or scrund) that some Indians may not be able to communicate due to a language barrier? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 391 Registered: 1-2010 |
Does the scrund have to do with the fact that the word "India" was mistakenly applied to the Americas? In that vein, does it have to do with the "West Indies"? Does it have to do with "American Indians"? no to all. On a completely different track... Does it involve Language? English? Hindi? Does it have to do with the fact that there are many languages spoken in India? Does it have to do with the fact (and/or scrund) that some Indians may not be able to communicate due to a language barrier? no to all. HINT: The person probably had a similar scrund about Indonesia. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1120 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the information in map form? photos? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 394 Registered: 1-2010 |
was the information in map form? photos? no to both. | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1616 Registered: 9-2009 |
DNS suffixes relevant? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1141 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the language the information was in relevant? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 395 Registered: 1-2010 |
DNS suffixes relevant? no. is the language the information was in relevant? no. The fact that India and Indonesia have similar names is irrelevant, but two other things they have in common are. | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 396 Registered: 1-2010 |
HINT: Find out more about the information that they misunderstood. | ||
| Ostap (Ostap)
New member Username: Ostap Post Number: 98 Registered: 6-2005 |
Does the information relate to: - history? - politics? - population? - culture? - sports? - food? - language? - education? - geography? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 422 Registered: 1-2010 |
Does the information relate to: - history? this. - politics? thisish. - population? this. - culture? - sports? - food? - language? - education? - geography? and this. no to rest. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 865 Registered: 6-2003 |
Was the information given in an ambiguous way? was it an article? a map? a chart? a book? a quote? Did it contain factual errors? typos? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 424 Registered: 1-2010 |
Was the information given in an ambiguous way? no, but they failed to understand all the information. was it an article? a map? a chart? this is closest. a book? a quote? Did it contain factual errors? typos? neither. It was accurate. | ||
| Seabass (Seabass)
New member Username: Seabass Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2011 |
Does the information relate to: Water shortages? Nuclear? Kashmir? Bangladesh? Pakistan? Nepal? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 871 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is the scrund that the British were the first Europeans who colonized India? (in fact it were the Portuguese) Religion relevant? Would one conclude from the information that the majority of Christians in India is Protestant (because of the British rule)? (while in fact the majority is Catholic?) | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 426 Registered: 1-2010 |
Water shortages? no. Nuclear? no. Kashmir? no. Bangladesh? no, but it could apply to this too. Pakistan? no, but it could apply to this too. Nepal? no. Is the scrund that the British were the first Europeans who colonized India? (in fact it were the Portuguese) no. Religion relevant? no. Would one conclude from the information that the majority of Christians in India is Protestant (because of the British rule)? (while in fact the majority is Catholic?) no. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4318 Registered: 9-2009 |
Statistics relevant? Relevant when they got the scrund? If so: last millennium? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 428 Registered: 1-2010 |
Statistics relevant? yes. Relevant when they got the scrund? after Indian independence. If so: last millennium? assume present day. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4334 Registered: 9-2009 |
Ancestry relevant? People living there during colonization relevant? People of British ancestry living there now relevant? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 430 Registered: 1-2010 |
Ancestry relevant? no. People living there during colonization relevant? yes. People of British ancestry living there now relevant? no, just people in general. Various categories of people such as ancestry and religion are irrelevant. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4369 Registered: 9-2009 |
People living there now relevant? Does the statistic show something changing over time? Does it show people: immigrating? Emigrating? Does it show something changing when independence was gained? If so, did the people get the scrund because they didn't know that independence was gained at that point? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 433 Registered: 1-2010 |
People living there now relevant? yes. Does the statistic show something changing over time? yope. Does it show people: immigrating? yope. Emigrating? yope. Does it show something changing when independence was gained? yope. If so, did the people get the scrund because they didn't know that independence was gained at that point? yes. These are good questions! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4564 Registered: 9-2010 |
may I request a recap? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4514 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the statistic show something happening at the moment of independence? A change in demographics? Because they didn't know about the independence, did they think something else dramatic happened? Or were they unable to figure out what happened? Or did they think the statistics were wrong? A recap would indeed be nice. | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 436 Registered: 1-2010 |
may I request a recap? yes. See below. Does the statistic show something happening at the moment of independence? yope. A change in demographics? yope. Because they didn't know about the independence, did they think something else dramatic happened? yes. Or were they unable to figure out what happened? They just judged correctly. Or did they think the statistics were wrong? no. A recap would indeed be nice. ******************RECAP******************** Some people looked at a piece of information and developed a scrund about India. The scrund relates to India's history and population. The colonization of India is relevant, but the people may not have realized that India was ever colonized. The scrund was that some other dramatic event must happened. You're extremely close, I think. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4814 Registered: 9-2010 |
Some people: Currently alive? Dead? If dead, alive during the: 21st century? 20th? 19th? "Some other dramatic event": a natural disaster? a war? something else? they don't think India exploded to create Indonesia, I hope...o.o | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 12 Registered: 11-2011 |
Were they looking at a population timeline? Was there a period of time for which there was no data? or data was collected using another method? Is there a sharp increase or decrease in the population figure? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 438 Registered: 1-2010 |
Some people: Currently alive? this, or at least alive a few months ago. Dead? If dead, alive during the: 21st century? 20th? 19th? "Some other dramatic event": a natural disaster? a war? something else? this. they don't think India exploded to create Indonesia, I hope...o.o no. The dramatic event could be described more accurately as an effect than a cause. They might have deduced that a similar event occurred in Indonesia during the twentieth century. | ||
| Nosim (Nosim)
New member Username: Nosim Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2011 |
Does the scrund arise from two different dating systems | ||
| Nosim (Nosim)
New member Username: Nosim Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2011 |
Was the dramatic event seismic? Was it a volcanic act? | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 246 Registered: 11-2011 |
I think you missed my Qs Hominid when you were last on : ) | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 439 Registered: 1-2010 |
Were they looking at a population timeline? no, but OTRT. Was there a period of time for which there was no data? yes. or data was collected using another method? no. Is there a sharp increase or decrease in the population figure? yope. Does the scrund arise from two different dating systems no. Was the dramatic event seismic? no. Was it a volcanic act? no. | ||
| Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 297 Registered: 11-2011 |
was it a timeline? are humans the units of the chart series? births? deaths? immigration rates? was it to display x per y people e.g. GDP per inhabitant or hospitals per 10,000 people. is nationality, ethnic origin or religion relevant here? the scrund is that the section of missing data was interpreted as being correct data, is that right? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 442 Registered: 1-2010 |
was it a timeline? no. are humans the units of the chart series? yes. births? deaths? immigration rates? no to these. was it to display x per y people e.g. GDP per inhabitant or hospitals per 10,000 people. no. is nationality, ethnic origin or religion relevant here? not really. the scrund is that the section of missing data was interpreted as being correct data, is that right? explain. | ||
| Wecl0me12 (Wecl0me12)
New member Username: Wecl0me12 Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2012 |
relevant that India has the second highest population in the world? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2761 Registered: 2-2011 |
was a section of the population omitted? like the untouchables? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
Moderator Username: Peter365 Post Number: 90 Registered: 1-2011 |
Hominid I've put this puzzle into Limbo for now . You can reactivate it by answering the outstanding questions. Hope you're back with us soon | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 443 Registered: 1-2010 |
relevant that India has the second highest population in the world? not specifically, but relevant that it's one of the most populous in the world. was a section of the population omitted? like the untouchables? no, but OTRT. Sorry about waiting so long to respond. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 1048 Registered: 6-2003 |
Did the chart show the population of India? of some part of India? Did it show the number of people with a particular property? the number of people who did something? or have something? Were the missing data reported in the chart as zero? so that somebody from looking at the chart would guess that during a period of time nobody did ...? which, if it was true, would indeed have been dramatic for the country? Would it help to establish the time period for which data were missing? was it before 1900? after 1900? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 472 Registered: 1-2010 |
Did the chart show the population of India? yope. of some part of India? noish. Did it show the number of people with a particular property? no. the number of people who did something? DOYD of did. or have something? no. Were the missing data reported in the chart as zero? no. so that somebody from looking at the chart would guess that during a period of time nobody did ...? no. which, if it was true, would indeed have been dramatic for the country? no. Would it help to establish the time period for which data were missing? was it before 1900? after 1900? The relevant year is 1900, but you have a FA. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5600 Registered: 9-2010 |
Okay - in 1900, India was part of the British Empire. Indonesia, as the "Dutch East Indies", was ruled by...well, the Dutch. Is this at all relevant? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3081 Registered: 2-2011 |
the number of people being born? dying? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 475 Registered: 1-2010 |
Okay - in 1900, India was part of the British Empire. Indonesia, as the "Dutch East Indies", was ruled by...well, the Dutch. Is this at all relevant? only the India part is relevant to this puzzle, but the same people might develop a similar scrund about Indonesia, and for that, the Dutch colonization is relevant. the number of people being born? primarily this. dying? not this at all. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3088 Registered: 2-2011 |
were they only counting people of a certain caste? only boys? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 476 Registered: 1-2010 |
were they only counting people of a certain caste? only boys? no to all. And by the way, the scrund is about the number of people being born; the data itself was about population. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3094 Registered: 2-2011 |
did the population data give the impression that more people were being born than was the case? or less? did it not take into account emigration? immigration? deaths? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 477 Registered: 1-2010 |
did the population data give the impression that more people were being born than was the case? this. or less? did it not take into account emigration? immigration? deaths? Hard to answer. You have an FA. | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 920 Registered: 1-2012 |
Did the data give the impression that there were more emigrating people? More immigrating people? Fewer deaths? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 479 Registered: 1-2010 |
Did the data give the impression that there were more emigrating people? More immigrating people? partly this. Fewer deaths? and partly this. But another thing primarily. | ||
| Charizardex2004 (Charizardex2004)
New member Username: Charizardex2004 Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2012 |
Is the scrund regarding a sharp decrease in British contribution to the total Indian Population? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 490 Registered: 1-2010 |
Is the scrund regarding a sharp decrease in British contribution to the total Indian Population? no. | ||
| Charizardex2004 (Charizardex2004)
New member Username: Charizardex2004 Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2012 |
Is the population of Indian natives relevant? Is the scrund formed due to something at the EXACT moment of Independence? (i.e. any change due to the virtue of independence) To the Partition of Pakistan and India? Do they think Population is increasing way too much? Decreasing way too much? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 493 Registered: 1-2010 |
Is the population of Indian natives relevant? no. Is the scrund formed due to something at the EXACT moment of Independence? (i.e. any change due to the virtue of independence) more the moment of independence itself. To the Partition of Pakistan and India? this is not relevant. Do they think Population is increasing way too much? not "too much" in a moral sense, but more than it actually is. Decreasing way too much? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5092 Registered: 9-2009 |
Were some people counted in the new stats who weren't counted before the independence? Relevant who assembled the stats? Or how they were assembled? Were any of the stats actually wrong? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 499 Registered: 1-2010 |
Were some people counted in the new stats who weren't counted before the independence? no, they were just counted differently. Relevant who assembled the stats? no. Or how they were assembled? define "assembled." Were any of the stats actually wrong? no. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5138 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the fact that they were counted differently, the cause of the confusion? Did the people who made the misinterpretation not know about the different counting method? Were some people counted as children when they weren't before? If not, is this line of thought OTRT? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 500 Registered: 1-2010 |
Was the fact that they were counted differently, the cause of the confusion? yes. Did the people who made the misinterpretation not know about the different counting method? yes. Were some people counted as children when they weren't before? Age is irrelevant, although I suppose people aged between 1900 and today. If not, is this line of thought OTRT? yes. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5169 Registered: 9-2009 |
Were all people counted in a different way? Or was only a specific group of people counted in a different way than before? Were two earlier groups combined into one? Or was one group split into more than one? Geographic location relevant? Borders? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 501 Registered: 1-2010 |
Were all people counted in a different way? the two sources were 1900 and today, so the "people" being counted were different. Or was only a specific group of people counted in a different way than before? Were two earlier groups combined into one? Or was one group split into more than one? One category from 1900 was split into more than one today. Geographic location relevant? yes. Borders? yope. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5227 Registered: 9-2009 |
Ethnicity relevant? Religion? Immigration? Emigration? Pregnancy? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 502 Registered: 1-2010 |
Ethnicity relevant? Religion? Immigration? Emigration? Pregnancy? none of the above. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5573 Registered: 9-2009 |
Birthplace relevant? Place of living? Was a geographical area counted as one before but split now? | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 867 Registered: 2-2009 |
Anything to do with citizenship? Dual citizenship? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 503 Registered: 1-2010 |
Birthplace relevant? no. Place of living? yes. Was a geographical area counted as one before but split now? YES! Anything to do with citizenship? no. Dual citizenship? no. | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 589 Registered: 2-2012 |
Recap? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 6097 Registered: 9-2010 |
British Empire relevant? Colonies? *Any* empires, current or former? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 4649 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the disputed Khasmir region relevant? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 504 Registered: 1-2010 |
Recap? ************RECAP************* Some people got a scrund about the population of India by looking at some information about the year 1900. Something changed between then and now, and what was then counted as one place is now counted as two. The British colonization of India is relevant. British Empire relevant? Colonies? *Any* empires, current or former? Just the British. Is the disputed Khasmir region relevant? no. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 6186 Registered: 9-2010 |
Pakistan relevant? Bangladesh? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 505 Registered: 1-2010 |
Pakistan relevant? Bangladesh? I guess someone could also develop the same scrund about them, but they're not really relevant. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 4709 Registered: 1-2007 |
The Punjab region ? It was divided between Pakistan and India in the 40s. Was it previously counted as being entirely Indian? | ||
| Chanman876 (Chanman876)
New member Username: Chanman876 Post Number: 2 Registered: 6-2013 |
Does it have to do that when India gained independence, it lost some land, and therefore population? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 506 Registered: 1-2010 |
The Punjab region ? It was divided between Pakistan and India in the 40s. Was it previously counted as being entirely Indian? The boundary between Pakistan and India is not really relevant. Does it have to do that when India gained independence, it lost some land, and therefore population? no. |
