| Author | Message | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18298 Registered: 4-2010 |
I keep coming up with Ireland puzzles and promptly forgetting them, so here's a non-Ireland puzzle while I try to remember them. A man read a letter and a divorce was prevented. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 907 Registered: 5-2008 |
read a letter aloud? to himself? the man's own divorce? another couple? prevented as in the couple changed their mind and chose to stay together? were lawfully not permitted to divorce? stayed together out of some other necessity? or benefit? | ||
| Deholmes (Deholmes)
New member Username: Deholmes Post Number: 252 Registered: 11-2012 |
Was the letter a will or some such document? | ||
| Mimino (Mimino)
New member Username: Mimino Post Number: 81 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did the couple actually plan to divorce? is the reason for divorce relevant? did the letter prove the reason being not true? Does the couple have children? if so: are they relevant in the story? Did any of the people involved write the letter? Was the letter written quite a while before? (more than 1 year? more than 5 years? more than 10 years? more than 50 years?) if so: did the man? did the couple know about the existence of the letter? about its content? Was the letter fake? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18303 Registered: 4-2010 |
read a letter aloud? Irrel to himself? Yes the man's own divorce? No another couple? Yes(ish) prevented as in the couple changed their mind and chose to stay together? were lawfully not permitted to divorce? stayed together out of some other necessity? or benefit? No to all, FA Was the letter a will or some such document? No Did the couple actually plan to divorce? Yope, FA is the reason for divorce relevant? Yes did the letter prove the reason being not true? Yope Does the couple have children? No if so: are they relevant in the story? No Did any of the people involved write the letter? No Was the letter written quite a while before? Less than a year, let's say (more than 1 year? more than 5 years? more than 10 years? more than 50 years?) if so: did the man? Yes did the couple No know about the existence of the letter? Yes about its content? Yes Was the letter fake? No | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 490 Registered: 9-2006 |
Was the letter sent to the man? to the couple? Was the couple a man and a woman? Age relevant? Did this situation take place nowadays? Period of time relevant? Did the man do something after reading the letter? If so, did this action prevent the divorce? Did the man know / suspect that he would prevent the divorce by reading the letter? Was it his intention? Did the man know the couple? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1898 Registered: 1-2011 |
Were the two people, whose divorce is concerned, already a couple when the man read the letter? Did they marry? Did reading the letter prevent the two people to marry? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3814 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it relevant how long ago this happened? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18316 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the letter sent to the man? This to the couple? Was the couple a man and a woman? Yes Age relevant? No Did this situation take place nowadays? Yes and No Period of time relevant? Yope Did the man do something after reading the letter? Yes If so, did this action prevent the divorce? Yes Did the man know / suspect that he would prevent the divorce by reading the letter? No Was it his intention? Preventing the divorce or reading the letter? Did the man know the couple? Yes Were the two people, whose divorce is concerned, already a couple when the man read the letter? No - good q Did they marry? Yes Did reading the letter prevent the two people to marry? No is it relevant how long ago this happened? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3822 Registered: 2-2011 |
did the man - as a result of reading the letter - decide not to marry someone? and she maried someone else? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18317 Registered: 4-2010 |
did the man - as a result of reading the letter - decide not to marry someone? No and she maried someone else? HINT: You haven't asked some common LTPF questions that will help you | ||
| Deholmes (Deholmes)
New member Username: Deholmes Post Number: 269 Registered: 11-2012 |
Was the letter written recently? Did it disclose a family secret? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18319 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the letter written recently? Well, it was written and immediately sent to the man Did it disclose a family secret? No | ||
| Deholmes (Deholmes)
New member Username: Deholmes Post Number: 275 Registered: 11-2012 |
Sent to which man? The man who read? Or the divorcer who asked the man to read it? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 513 Registered: 9-2006 |
The man: H/A/M? The coupe: H? A? So the man read the letter, say, 6 months ago and it prevented a divorce today? Would the man get any benefit by reading the letter? Is it a true story? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18323 Registered: 4-2010 |
Sent to which man? The man who read? This Or the divorcer who asked the man to read it? The man: H/A/M? Yes The coupe: H? A? Yes, H/A/M-F So the man read the letter, say, 6 months ago and it prevented a divorce today? Let's say Yope to this. Would the man get any benefit by reading the letter? Yes Is it a true story? Yes, but don't let this mislead you | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1929 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the man receive a letter in the normal time after it had been sent? Did the man read the letter immediately after having received it? Is it relevant who wrote the letter? Was it an official letter? Was the letter sent by traditional post? Did the couple marry after the letter had been sent? After the letter had been received? After the letter had been read? Did the letter contain an information, which would lead to the divorce, had it not been revealed earlier? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18331 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the man receive a letter in the normal time after it had been sent? Yes Did the man read the letter immediately after having received it? Assume Yes Is it relevant who wrote the letter? Yes Was it an official letter? No Was the letter sent by traditional post? Assume Yes Did the couple marry after the letter had been sent? After the letter had been received? After the letter had been read? Yes to all Did the letter contain an information, which would lead to the divorce, had it not been revealed earlier? No | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1939 Registered: 1-2011 |
Would the couple still have got married if the letter had not been written? sent? read? Did the man (reader of the letter) share the information from the letter with someone? Do other action using the information from the letter? Do relevant action to the letter? Was the letter from anyone of the couple? If yes, woman? man? Was the man related to anyone of the couple? If yes, woman? man? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18335 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would the couple still have got married if the letter had not been written? sent? read? Yes to all Did the man (reader of the letter) share the information from the letter with someone? Irrel Do other action using the information from the letter? Yes Do relevant action to the letter? Yes Was the letter from anyone of the couple? No If yes, woman? man? Was the man related to anyone of the couple? No If yes, woman? man? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 540 Registered: 9-2006 |
Who wrote and sent the letter to the man: a company? a public institution? a friend/relative/coworker? Did the man destroy the letter? Sent it to someone else? Kept it with him? Is the man's/couple's profession/job relevant? Is the couple aware that the man read the letter months ago? Did the man call someone after reading the letter? After reading the letter, the man was: angry? regretful? sorry? happy? worried? Who asked for a divorce, the man? the woman? Relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18337 Registered: 4-2010 |
Who wrote and sent the letter to the man: a company? a public institution? a friend/relative/coworker? No to these, but it was a single person Did the man destroy the letter? Sent it to someone else? Kept it with him? This Is the man's/couple's profession/job relevant? The man's is VERY relevant Is the couple aware that the man read the letter months ago? No Did the man call someone after reading the letter? Assume No After reading the letter, the man was: angry? regretful? sorry? happy? worried? I'd assume impressed and grateful Who asked for a divorce, the man? the woman? FA Relevant? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 541 Registered: 9-2006 |
My mistake! =) If a divorce was prevented, does it mean the couple was having a bad time together and they were about to separate? Or simply that it prevented a bad situation (which would lead to a divorce) from happening? Man's job/profession: does it require a university degree? lawyer? physician? administrator? professor? Was the man expecting to receive such a letter? Did the man know the person who wrote and sent him the letter? This person H? A? M/F? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18338 Registered: 4-2010 |
My mistake! =) *zing* If a divorce was prevented, does it mean the couple was having a bad time together and they were about to separate? No Or simply that it prevented a bad situation Yope (which would lead to a divorce) from happening? Yes Man's job/profession: does it require a university degree? lawyer? physician? administrator? professor? No to all Was the man expecting to receive such a letter? No with a slight -ish Did the man know the person who wrote and sent him the letter? No This person H? A? M/F? HA-unknown/irrel | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 545 Registered: 9-2006 |
Was it an anonymous letter? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18343 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it an anonymous letter? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3864 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the letter from some sort of official? government? local government? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18344 Registered: 4-2010 |
was the letter from some sort of official? government? local government? No to all | ||
| Deholmes (Deholmes)
New member Username: Deholmes Post Number: 327 Registered: 11-2012 |
Was the man who received the letter the one who performed the marriage ceremony? was their a question regarding the gender of the couple? Were the couple part of a circus or side show? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18346 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the man who received the letter the one who performed the marriage ceremony? was their a question regarding the gender of the couple? Were the couple part of a circus or side show? No to all | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1956 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the letter contain information about the man from the couple? the woman from the couple? Did the letter contain information about finances? family life? emotions? professional information? inheritance? Did the man perform the relevant action using the information from the letter immediately after having read the letter? Before the "bad situation" occur to the couple? After the "bad situation" occur to the couple? Was the divorce prevented immediately after the man's action? Was there a crime committed? Are all three people still alive? Were they all alive when the divorce was prevented? Is anyone else relevant besides the letter reader and the couple? Is the reader a postman? Did the reader prevent the divorce by having one of the couple killed? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18348 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the letter contain information about the man from the couple? Yope the woman from the couple? No Did the letter contain information about finances? family life? emotions? professional information? inheritance? No to all Did the man perform the relevant action using the information from the letter immediately after having read the letter? Assume this Before the "bad situation" occur to the couple? After the "bad situation" occur to the couple? Was the divorce prevented immediately after the man's action? Yes Was there a crime committed? No Are all three people still alive? Yes Were they all alive when the divorce was prevented? Yes Is anyone else relevant besides the letter reader and the couple? Yes, one H/A/F Is the reader a postman? No Did the reader prevent the divorce by having one of the couple killed? No | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 556 Registered: 9-2006 |
Man's job/profession does not require a university degree. So: Is he a blue-collar worker? Manual labour? Is his job uncommon? (e.g. astronaut, oil rig diver etc). Does his job involve transportation? (e.g. driver, pilot etc). Is his job related to religion? | ||
| Deholmes (Deholmes)
New member Username: Deholmes Post Number: 329 Registered: 11-2012 |
Was there something in the envelope besides the letter? | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 505 Registered: 2-2012 |
Is it relevant which country this happened in? Was some clerical or other mistake prevented that would made the couple legally divorced even though they didn't want one? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1972 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was the other HAF mentioned in the letter? Was she the author of the letter? Was she related to any of the three people in this puzzle? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18350 Registered: 4-2010 |
Man's job/profession does not require a university degree. So: Is he a blue-collar worker? Manual labour? No to both Is his job uncommon? (e.g. astronaut, oil rig diver etc). No Does his job involve transportation? (e.g. driver, pilot etc). No Is his job related to religion? No Was there something in the envelope besides the letter? No Is it relevant which country this happened in? No/Yope Was some clerical or other mistake prevented that would made the couple legally divorced even though they didn't want one? No Was the other HAF mentioned in the letter? Yes Was she the author of the letter? No Was she related to any of the three people in this puzzle? No | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 560 Registered: 9-2006 |
Man's job: related to arts? Is his job only/mostly done by men? women? both? Is his job well paid? Did he have a comfortable life with his earnings? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18358 Registered: 4-2010 |
Man's job: related to arts? Yes... Is his job only/mostly done by men? women? both? Both Is his job well paid? Assume Yes Did he have a comfortable life with his earnings? Irrel, assume Yes | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 510 Registered: 2-2012 |
Did the man paint? Was he a photographer? A tattoo artist? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3885 Registered: 2-2011 |
performing arts? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18365 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the man paint? Was he a photographer? A tattoo artist? performing arts? No to these | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 565 Registered: 9-2006 |
Was he an art dealer? Did he "perform" the art (e.g. dancer, painter, singer etc) or was involved in arts (e.g. manager etc)? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18368 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was he an art dealer? No Did he "perform" the art (e.g. dancer, painter, singer etc) This, but FA - it was not a performing art or was involved in arts (e.g. manager etc)? Not like this | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1980 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the man own the art gallery? Work in the museum? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18371 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the man own the art gallery? Work in the museum? No to both, FA. Not a visual art | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 569 Registered: 9-2006 |
Art: music-related? fashion? gastronomy? Has the title (BFOC) anything to do with the puzzle? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18372 Registered: 4-2010 |
Art: music-related? fashion? gastronomy? No to these Has the title (BFOC) anything to do with the puzzle? Somewhat | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3896 Registered: 2-2011 |
is he a poet? novelist? another kind of writer? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18380 Registered: 4-2010 |
is he a poet? novelist? This another kind of writer? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 570 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is the couple actually characters in a novel? A real life couple? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18384 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the couple actually characters in a novel? YES A real life couple? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5876 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is the novel based on a true story? is it fantasy? sci-fi? historical fiction? western? romance? is it a young adult novel? adult? very adult? (xD) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18385 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the novel based on a true story? No is it fantasy? This sci-fi? historical fiction? western? romance? is it a young adult novel? adult? very adult? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5877 Registered: 9-2010 |
I can haz recat plz? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18387 Registered: 4-2010 |
I can haz recat plz? Sure. RECAP: A man read a letter and a divorce was prevented. The man is a writer, and receiving the letter prevented the divorce of two characters in one of his fantasy novels. The two characters were not a couple at the time the letter was received. A third character, a female, was also referenced in the letter and is relevant. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5879 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is the man (may we call him John?) currently alive? Is he reasonably well-known? Did he write this novel during the 21st century? 20th? 19th? Earlier? Is the novel set in a particular time period? Is it part of a series? The two characters (Robert and Heather perhaps?) are not together when he received the letter. Does this mean John had not finished writing his novel yet? Or had they been together, and were currently separated? Did something in the letter force him to rewrite his novel entirely? Is the third character (may we refer to her as Edith?) related to Robert or Heather? Is she based on someone John knew in real life? Are Robert and Heather based on anyone John knew in real life? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18389 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the man (may we call him John?) Sounds good currently alive? Yes Is he reasonably well-known? I hadn't heard of him, but I'd assume he is Did he write this novel during the 21st century? 20th? This, I think 19th? Earlier? Is the novel set in a particular time period? Yope Is it part of a series? Yes The two characters (Robert and Heather perhaps?) Works for me. And I believe I know where you came up with that pairing... are not together when he received the letter. Yes Does this mean John had not finished writing his novel yet? Yes, this is part of it Or had they been together, and were currently separated? No Did something in the letter force No him to rewrite his novel entirely? Yes, although not the entire novel - excellent q! Is the third character (may we refer to her as Edith?) OK related to Robert or Heather? No Is she based on someone John knew in real life? Irrel Are Robert and Heather based on anyone John knew in real life? Irrel | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1994 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was the novel based on historical events? Did John learn from the letter, that he was wrong about certain facts? If yes, historical facts? medical facts? knowledge about law? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18403 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the novel based on historical events? No Did John learn from the letter, that he was wrong about certain facts? No If yes, historical facts? medical facts? knowledge about law? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3909 Registered: 2-2011 |
did the letter mention marriage? divorce? was it from an editor? a publisher? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18405 Registered: 4-2010 |
did the letter mention marriage? Yes divorce? No was it from an editor? a publisher? Neither | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2007 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was the letter from a reader of the series? Did the author of the letter express his expectations about the future actions in the book? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18409 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the letter from a reader of the series? Yes Did the author of the letter express his expectations about the future actions in the book? Hmm... let's say Yes | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1152 Registered: 8-2011 |
Is ... Edith, I believe... is she a character in the book? Forgive me if this has already been answered. I did look but didn't see it. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18414 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is ... Edith, I believe... is she a character in the book? Yes Forgive me if this has already been answered. I did look but didn't see it. It had not. Good q | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18422 Registered: 4-2010 |
One more RECAP for now: John is a writer, and he received a fan letter that expressed expectations about certain future actions in the book. This prevented Robert and Heather, two characters in his series of fantasy novels, from divorcing. A third character, Edith, is also relevant. And a couple of HINTS from established information: #1: It is relevant that these are fantasy novels. #2: Robert and Heather were not a couple in the series at the time the letter was received. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2021 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did Edith appear in the series? Was Edith's appearance in the series planned but not realized? Did the author plan Edith to be the cause of divorce? Did the author "kill" Edith as a result of the letter? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18427 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did Edith appear in the series? Yes Was Edith's appearance in the series planned but not realized? No, if I understand the question Did the author plan Edith to be the cause of divorce? Yopish Did the author "kill" Edith as a result of the letter? No | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2053 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did author plan the marriage of Robert and Heather before he received a letter? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18428 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did author plan the marriage of Robert and Heather before he received a letter? Yes, but... | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2119 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is any supernatural power or might involved in the action of Robert? Heather? Edith? Did the author plan the divorce before the letter arrived? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18445 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is any supernatural power or might involved in the action of Robert? Heather? Edith? Yes to all, although I wouldn't say a "might." There's a specific supernatural element involved Did the author plan the divorce before the letter arrived? Yes | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2137 Registered: 1-2011 |
Could anyone of them use magic? Artifacts relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18450 Registered: 4-2010 |
Could anyone of them use magic? Irrel Artifacts relevant? No | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2160 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was the supernatural element a factor in marriage? Planned divorce? Did the letter refer to the supernatural element? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18460 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the supernatural element a factor in marriage? Yes Planned divorce? Yes Did the letter refer to the supernatural element? To the relevant one, yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18473 Registered: 4-2010 |
HINT: The relevant supernatural element is a prophecy. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5654 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the prophecy foresee the marriage? The divorce? Or did it cause either by foreseeing something else? Was the divorce avoided by questioning the validity of the prophecy? Or of the prophet? I've always wondered why prophecies are almost always taken at face value in fantasy. Who's to say that the prophet is right, or even genuine? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18476 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the prophecy foresee the marriage? YOPE!!!! The divorce? No Or did it cause either by foreseeing something else? No Was the divorce avoided by questioning the validity of the prophecy? No, slight -ish Or of the prophet? No I've always wondered why prophecies are almost always taken at face value in fantasy. Who's to say that the prophet is right, or even genuine? Who knows... Slight blooper: There is also a relevant curse. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2247 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the prophecy foresee the marriage only if certain condition is met? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18480 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the prophecy foresee the marriage only if certain condition is met? ...No. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2256 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was someone cursed? If yes: Robert? Heather? Edith? Was an item cursed? Was the curse connected with the prophecy? Did the prophecy foresee that one of our heroes would get married? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18490 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was someone cursed? Yes If yes: Robert? Heather? Her Edith? Was an item cursed? No Was the curse connected with the prophecy? Not directly Did the prophecy foresee that one of our heroes would get married? Technically it didn't!!!! | ||
| Kiyomoon (Kiyomoon)
New member Username: Kiyomoon Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2013 |
Did the prophecy foresee that one of the heroes would stay married (if said prophecy did not technically know there would be a marriage)? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18497 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the prophecy foresee that one of the heroes would stay married No (if said prophecy did not technically know there would be a marriage) Focus on this. I will tell you that the prophecy concerned Robert and Edith. ? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2278 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the prophecy foresee that Robert and Edith will have child? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18501 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the prophecy foresee that Robert and Edith will have child? No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5812 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the prophecy foresee something: good? Bad? Neutral? Something that contradicted the curse? Something that could only happen if they were married? Or was much more likely to happen if they where? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2387 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was either prophecy or curse put into the story after the author read the letter? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18514 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the prophecy foresee something: good? This - focus on the TEXT of the prophecy Bad? Neutral? Something that contradicted the curse? Yes Something that could only happen if they were married? NOT QUITE Or was much more likely to happen if they were? See prev Was either prophecy or curse put into the story after the author read the letter? No | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2412 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the profecy foresee: financial gain? health improvement? avoiding death? family reunion? peace? victory over an enemy? Just overcoming the curse? Did either profecy or curse say that someone must have get married? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18520 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the profecy foresee: financial gain? health improvement? avoiding death? family reunion? peace? victory over an enemy? Just overcoming the curse? No to all, see next Did either profecy or curse say that someone must have get married? Both did. I think this is enough information for a clarification: The prophecy said (paraphrasing) "Edith will marry Robert." The curse was one which would kill Heather if she did not marry Robert. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5900 Registered: 9-2009 |
Were there any more Roberts available? Could Edith and Heather marry different guys and fulfill the prophecies? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18527 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were there any more Roberts available? Irrel, OTWT Could Edith and Heather marry different guys and fulfill the prophecies? ...I have to say Yes and No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 4033 Registered: 2-2011 |
could Edith marry a different guy and fulfil the prophecies? could Heather? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18532 Registered: 4-2010 |
could Edith marry a different guy and fulfil the prophecies? could Heather? No; however, Edith both did AND did not marry Robert, while Heather did marry Robert | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18538 Registered: 4-2010 |
Big HINT: The word "marry" is the relevant part. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3645 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is it relevant that marry can also mean "perform the marriage ceremony"? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18544 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it relevant that marry can also mean "perform the marriage ceremony"? Yep, and we have a winner. ****SPOILER**** From TV Tropes' page on "Ascended Fanon": In Piers Anthony's Xanth series, Prince Dolph (who is still a child) manages to find himself engaged to two different women, both of whom have to marry him Because Destiny Says So; one, Nada Naga, because of a prophecy, and the other, Electra, because she's under a curse that will kill her if Dolph doesn't go through with the marriage. Obviously, he can't marry them both (though Dolph doesn't understand why not), and to make matters worse, although Dolph prefers Nada, she would much rather be Just Friends, while Electra really does love him (even if it's magically compelled). Piers Anthony's originally planned resolution, to occur in a later book in the series, was to have him marry Electra, divorce her one day later, and then marry Nada, who will get around the whole "not in love" thing by voluntarily drinking a Love Potion. However, a reader spotted a loophole in the prophecy — to "marry" someone can also mean to perform their wedding ceremony. After reading this fan's letter, Piers Anthony quickly rewrote the ending, and Dolph and Electra lived Happily Ever After. Nice work Doriana et al - haven't had a puzzle solved in a while. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3670 Registered: 12-2010 |
"Nice work Doriana et al" - This sounds like I'm getting all the credit, but I actually only asked one question after you gave a huge hint. I don't really deserve it =D I'm wondering how this was translated to other languages where there are two different words for the two meanings of "marry" (e.g. in German, it's heiraten and verheiraten...). | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18549 Registered: 4-2010 |
"et al" because I was too lazy to look up and see who asked a lot of questions... I suppose better late than not at all. Nice work Doriana, Shez, Galfisk, Redwine, Kiyo, Ciaobella, Kaylee, Danielvs, Beachbum, Deholmes, Mimino, Liquizt, and whoever I missed. |
