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Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay then shawn, so now you need to find out what the "Nothing is" that is worth more than all those billions of dollars!
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

nothing is of no value, though... unless Nothing is actual an entity
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the first nothing a location? or is it a place?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

you know what I mean
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

nothing is of no value, though... unless Nothing is actual an entity Remember, this is a lateral puzzle :)

Here is an earlier post of mine which is reasonably relaiable:

"The first "Nothing" = an entity which is specific. It is not tangible but can be seen and heard."
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the first nothing a location? or is it a place? Neither - remember, electricity is involved
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the first Nothing (N1) specific enough that it would be a proper noun? Is it a certain person? place? movie? ship? is it a rare fruit? Does it have to be Namibia or could it be Azerbaijan?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

electricity is involved... is N1 a nuclear fusion power plant?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the first Nothing (N1) specific enough that it would be a proper noun? Yes

Is it a certain person? place? movie? ship? is it a rare fruit? None of these - it is a conglomerate of stuff (that in one sense is nothing). Think in terms of electricity

Does it have to be Namibia or could it be Azerbaijan? It could be anything as long as the amount of money was roughly the same.
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

electricity is involved... is N1 a nuclear fusion power plant? No

A nuclear plant is tangible - this "nothing" is not really tangible but it can be seen and heard
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

how do I think in terms of electricty? I can think of some "terms" of electricty... like amps, volts, ohms... umm... is it really no thing or is it some thing or is it some things that is pretty much nothing?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What can you see and hear but not touch?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is N1 a web site?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

how do I think in terms of electricty? I can think of some "terms" of electricty... like amps, volts, ohms... umm... is it really no thing or is it some thing or is it some things that is pretty much nothing?

What can you see and hear but not touch?

is N1 a web site?
No but you are on the right track and websites are involved in the conglomerate of stuff that makes up "N1" so you are getting warm.
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

uhh.. what congolomerates are websites part of...
the web? the internet? the group of things that you need a computer to see? Something that requires electricty? Electronic devices......thing? data? stuff? information?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

some sort of communication thing?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

uhh.. what congolomerates are websites part of...
the web? the internet? the group of things that you need a computer to see? Something that requires electricty? Electronic devices......thing? data? stuff? information?

You are the right track - have you ever played a game online? What do you call that environment?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I call it...
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I forgot. What kind of a game are we talking about?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I call that environment cyberspace. What do you call it?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I forgot. What kind of a game are we talking about? anykind

I call that environment cyberspace. That's a good description - you can hear it and see it (or at least it's manifestation) but it's not actually tangible is it?

What do you call it? Do you really want to know?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

yes I do
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 6:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is N1 cyberspace?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 7:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Virtual Reality or The Virtual World
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 7:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is N1 cyberspace?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 7:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

N1 is The Virtual World
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 7:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

what exactly is the virtual world?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 7:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

what exactly is the virtual world?

“Virtual World” (of online role playing, computer gaming)
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 9:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Earth 2025 in the Virtual World?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 10:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Earth 2025 in the Virtual World? You'd have to tell me what Earth 2025 is first
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 12:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*************** SPOILER *****************

I was struck by a news item entitled “Gamer buys $26,500 virtual land”.

On reading the article I discovered that the “Virtual World” (of online role playing, computer gaming) that could be considered as “Nothing” commands a gross economic impact larger that some of the “Real World’s” smaller nations. Currently the phenomenon is equal to the Gross Domestic Product of Namibia and Jamaica.
A related article emphasised how players enjoyed building up stocks and assets from their hard work in their role playing. “Players like going out and finding iron ore, smelting it into iron, hammering it into a sword, selling it for some gold pieces, so they can buy new clothes.”
Of course these assets are all fantasy (or Virtual Reality). Perhaps another way of expressing “Virtual Reality” as a non tangible is to describe it as “Nothing”. In this case, judging by the time and energy invested by players in the Virtual World it seems that “Nothing” is more satisfying”.



Gamer buys $26,500 virtual land

Virtual gaming worlds overtake Namibia

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