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Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 4:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"So get another one!"
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2004 - 3:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The first one broke? Is unusable? Died? Got lost? Went away? Doesn't meet specifications? Won't sing? Won't fly? Won't shine? Ate the pear in the tree and choked on it?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2004 - 9:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The first one broke? it didn't break, as such Is unusable? correct Died? Got lost? Went away? FA Doesn't meet specifications? yesish Won't sing? Won't fly? Won't shine? Ate the pear in the tree and choked on it? O...k...FA to all of these
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 10:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Could the one being addressed get another one?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything to do with duchess potatoes?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 6:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Could the one being addressed get another one? certainly

Anything to do with duchess potatoes? no
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 7:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

IS "it" an object? If so, is the density greater than 1g/ml?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 11:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

IS "it" an object? yes If so, is the density greater than 1g/ml? ...I don't know what 1g/ml is - most probably though, the answer's yes
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 3:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it unusable when it was created?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 10:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it unusable when it was created? no
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 10:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the density higher than that of water? :)
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 11:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything to do with Monty Python?
Does it have a hole in it?

Is it animal / mineral / vegetable?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 7:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the density higher than that of water? yes

Anything to do with Monty Python? as far as I know, it unfortunately does not

Does it have a hole in it? yes, it does :)

Is it animal / mineral / vegetable? it is a mineral
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 7:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm...

Is it a bucket?
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 8:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does it have the form of a torus?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 10:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm...

Is it a bucket? yes!!! Do you wish to finish it off then?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 10:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this relevant?


There's a Hole in My Bucket

Liza: Henry! Fetch me some water!

Henry: There's a hole in my bucket dear Liza, dear Liza
There's a hole in my bucket dear Liza, a hole.

Liza: Well, fix it dear Henry, dear Henry, dear Henry,
Well, fix it dear Henry, dear Henry, fix it.

Henry: With what shall I fix it ...
Liza: With a straw dear Henry ...
Henry: The straw is too long ...
Liza: Well, cut it dear Henry ...
Henry: With what shall I cut it ...
Liza: With an axe dear Henry ...
Henry: The axe is too dull dear Liza ...
Liza: Well, sharpen it dear Henry ...
Henry: With what shall I sharpen it ...
Liza: With a stone dear Henry ...
Henry: The stone is too dry dear Liza ...
Liza: Well, wet it dear Henry ...
Henry: With what shall I wet it ...
Liza: With water dear Henry ...
Henry: In what shall I fetch it ...
Liza: In a bucket dear Henry ...
Henry: There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza ...
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 12:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the title relevant?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 1:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK, it's fairly obvious that Simon has got it, so I will declare a

***** SPOILER *****

This does indeed come from 'There's a Hole in my Bucket', the words for which have been kindly reproduced above by Simon. As can be seen, the song uses circular paradoxical logic - Henry's bucket has a hole, but to repair it the bucket is needed - but there is of course a hole in that bucket.

Reading this song prompted my thought, which is the statement - "So get another [bucket]!"


The title is indeed relevant - the names Liza and Henry are also the names of the principal cast in 'Pygmalion', where 'Enry 'Iggins has the self-imposed task of turning Liza from a Cockney flower-girl to a duchess with Queen's English.
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 1:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I like your logical line of thought Logician :-)
For some reason I seemed to hit straight onto your wave length!
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 12:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As a child I could never understand how you could fix a bucket with straw.... :)
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 1:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As an adult I still have difficulty with it .. unless it happens to be a straw bucket :)

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