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Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 11:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the killer expect that the bomb would go off? That it would create a current? That the victim would be burned?
Does the bomb itself involve electricity?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 11:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the killer expect that the bomb would go off? yes
That it would create a current? he may or may not have known this
That the victim would be burned? not this victim
Does the bomb itself involve electricity? I don't know, sorry. I imagine so. This is not directly relevant though
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 11:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If the bomb was intended for "someone" but not the victim or the man next to him, was it intended for the killer himself; i.e. a suicide bomb? If not, do we need to establish who the intended victim was and where they were at the time of the explosion?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 11:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If the bomb was intended for "someone" but not the victim or the man next to him, was it intended for the killer himself; i.e. a suicide bomb? no
If not, do we need to establish who the intended victim was no, but FA - the intended victim was not one person
and where they were at the time of the explosion? no
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 1:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the bomb kill one man instead of many men, as was the killers intention?
Did the electricity run a considerable distance to the man? Through the ground? A piece of metal in the room? The air?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 1:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good questions, but hard to answer

Did the bomb kill one man instead of many men, as was the killers intention? no, the bomb killed many men and women as was the killer's intention, and also this man
Did the electricity run a considerable distance to the man? see next answers
Through the ground? no
A piece of metal in the room? electricity ran a short distance through a piece of metal in the room
The air? electricity ran a long distance through the air to the man
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 11:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the man next to the victim spared because he wasn't in contact with anything metallic? Were the others who were killed in the same room?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 11:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the man next to the victim spared because he wasn't in contact with anything metallic? yes but may mislead
Were the others who were killed in the same room? NO
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 8:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he have his hand on a metal doorknob or light switch or something similar at the time the bomb exploded, thus completing an electrical circuit?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 10:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he have his hand on a metal doorknob or light switch or something similar at the time the bomb exploded, thus completing an electrical circuit? nope
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 4:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the man holding something?
Did something other than the bomb explode (e.g. from a surge of electricity or something)?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 2:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the man holding something? no
Did something other than the bomb yes explode not exactly (e.g. from a surge of electricity or something)? yes
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 7:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So it wasn't an electricity bomb was it?
Or maybe a "pinch"? (a bomb used to blackout the city)
So the electricity traveled through the air like lightning?
and struck what he was stnding on?
or maybe something on him, like a tooth filling?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 8:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So it wasn't an electricity bomb was it? it wasn't
Or maybe a "pinch"? no, but very much OTRT... (a bomb used to blackout the city)
So the electricity traveled through the air yes like lightning? not really
and struck what he was stnding on? no
or maybe something on him, like a tooth filling? not this, but OTRT

Good questions :)
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 8:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The electricity struck:
something he was wearing?
something he had with him (e.g. in his pocket?)
something in him?
Did he have a pacemaker?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 8:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The electricity struck:
something he was wearing?
something he had with him (e.g. in his pocket?)
something in him? THIS
Did he have a pacemaker? YES

nearly there now...
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 9:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So a bomb that screws up electronic devices somehow?
and this caused his pacemaker to malfunction?
and his malfunctioning pacemaker seared him from the inside?
other than the exact bomb used, is there anything else to figure out?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 9:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So a bomb that screws up electronic devices somehow? well, yes, it does this
and this caused his pacemaker to malfunction? yes
and his malfunctioning pacemaker seared him from the inside? right
other than the exact bomb used, is there anything else to figure out? no, that's all that's left
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 9:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'll admit I'm having a bit of trouble with this bomb thing...
So it doesn't seem exactly like an incendiary device?
Because it doesn't make fire?
But it does emit something else...
a shock wave?
radiation?
is it intended to do damage to electric devices?
or is it intended to directly hurt people?
is the part that screwed up the man's pacemaker more or less a side effect of the bomb rather than the primary function of the bomb?
(e.g. a "pinch" is like a nuclear bomb minus the explosion. So a nuclear bomb has the effect of a pinch, but it's primary function is to explode)
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 9:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'll admit I'm having a bit of trouble with this bomb thing... don't worry...
So it doesn't seem exactly like an incendiary device? well, the term "incendiary device" usually refers to something else
Because it doesn't make fire? no, it generally does make fire
But it does emit something else...
a shock wave? probably
radiation? this too
is it intended to do damage to electric devices? not primarily
or is it intended to directly hurt people? yes
is the part that screwed up the man's pacemaker more or less a side effect of the bomb rather than the primary function of the bomb? yes
(e.g. a "pinch" is like a nuclear bomb minus the explosion. So a nuclear bomb has the effect of a pinch, but it's primary function is to explode) Exactly. :) The bomb is indeed a nuclear bomb.
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 9:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*** SPOILER ***

The bomb is a nuclear weapon, which generates an electromagnetic pulse when it explodes. The two men are at a safe distance from the blast itself, but one has a pacemaker. The EMP generates an electric current which fries the pacemaker.
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 10:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well done Paradox, and thanks to everyone who played.

I was surprised to read that this would happen, I would have thought the pacemaker would simply stop working without causing immediate injury. Does anyone happen to know for sure if this is correct? If it is not, my apologies.
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 10:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So...there was a nuclear bomb that went off?
And these two men were inside of a bomb shelter?
Possibly the ones who set the bomb to go off?
But they didn't take into account that the electrical pulse sent out by nuclear bombs would do damage to pacemakers?
And it was this that killed the one man?
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2005 - 10:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

oh sorry...I thought you hadn't spoiled it yet, so I was wrapping things up. Heh heh. Good puzzle.

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