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Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 11:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A man on the run from the law stole a private plane. Although not a pilot, he had some experience with realistic flight simulators and had a pretty good idea of how to fly a plane. However, the police found the plane crashed in a field several miles from the place at which the plane was stolen, and the man was dead. The fuel had not run out, and there had not been any malfunctions in the plane before impact. What had happened?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 11:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant why he was on the run from the law? was it for having stolen the plane?
Relevant that he had previously only flown flight simulators? could the same thing have happened to an experienced pilot?
True story?
Had he stolen an animal from a zoo which escaped from its cage in the plane and attacked him?
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant why he was on the run from the law? no
was it for having stolen the plane? no, although I suppose it could have been
Relevant that he had previously only flown flight simulators? yes-ish
could the same thing have happened to an experienced pilot? probably not
True story? no, but could be
Had he stolen an animal from a zoo which escaped from its cage in the plane and attacked him? haha, no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it even relevant that he was on the run from the law, other than as an excuse for him flying a plane for the first time with no instructor?
Was there some (mis)feature in the flight simulator that made it easier than flying a real plane?
Relevant that it was a private plane? could it have been a passenger jet? a military plane?
Did he suddenly discover that he was afraid of heights?
Was he in the plane when he was found?
Did he invert it and fall out?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the simulator he had used at all similar to the plane he was trying to fly? or were they very different in handling and performance?

Is where this happened relevant at all?

Private plane = light aircraft (Piper Cub-type -- four or fewer passengers, two- or three-wheeled landing gear, one-engine propeller driven?)

Private plane = ultralight?

Private plane = privately-owned jet?

Private plane = privately-owned decommisioned military plane? (like the Confederate Air Force)
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it even relevant that he was on the run from the law, other than as an excuse for him flying a plane for the first time with no instructor? uh...not really, but the fact that he stole the plane makes the puzzle make a bit more sense
Was there some (mis)feature in the flight simulator that made it easier than flying a real plane? no
Relevant that it was a private plane? yes-ish
could it have been a passenger jet? no
a military plane? for most cases, no
Did he suddenly discover that he was afraid of heights? no
Was he in the plane when he was found? yes
Did he invert it and fall out? no
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the simulator he had used at all similar to the plane he was trying to fly? irrelevant
or were they very different in handling and performance? irrelevant

Is where this happened relevant at all? no

Private plane = light aircraft (Piper Cub-type -- four or fewer passengers, two- or three-wheeled landing gear, one-engine propeller driven?) yes

Private plane = ultralight? no

Private plane = privately-owned jet? no

Private plane = privately-owned decommisioned military plane? (like the Confederate Air Force) no
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 10:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sooo...
Did the engine quit on him?
Does one need specialised knowledge to solve this puzzle?
Are weather phenomena relevant?
Did he fly inside clouds?
Time of day relevant?
Was it a sea plane?
Was he trying to land the plane when he crashed?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he run into Turbulence, or more specifically, clear-air-turbulence, aka air pocket?
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 6:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sooo...
Did the engine quit on him? no
Does one need specialised knowledge to solve this puzzle? maybe slight, but not what you'd think
Are weather phenomena relevant? no
Did he fly inside clouds? no
Time of day relevant? yes
Was it a sea plane? no
Was he trying to land the plane when he crashed? no
Did he run into Turbulence, or more specifically, clear-air-turbulence, aka air pocket? no
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he die before the plane crashed? Of hypothermia? He flew too high, died/passed out, and then the plane crashed?
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he die before the plane crashed? yes
Of hypothermia? no
He flew too high, died/passed out, and then the plane crashed? not from flying too high, no
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

His cause of death: related to pressure? oxygen? lack of oxygen? presence of some other substance? Some condition that he had before he even got into the plane? an injury? illness?
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 9:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

His cause of death: related to pressure? no
oxygen? no
lack of oxygen? no
presence of some other substance? no
Some condition that he had before he even got into the plane? yes
an injury? no
illness? yes-ish
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 9:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the cause of death related to height? speed? temperature? Is he an epileptic?
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 9:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the cause of death related to height? speed? temperature? Is he an epileptic? yes, he is an epileptic

It seems that this one will be quick, but the man didn't simply have a random seizure, so you must still tell me how this seizure came about.
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 9:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, I guess there are much more blinking lights (and possibly sounds) in a real plane, compared to a simulation. Which would be the reason for having a seizure here while obviously not having it while playing the sim?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 9:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

propellor v sun?
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 9:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, I guess there are much more blinking lights (and possibly sounds) in a real plane, compared to a simulation. Which would be the reason for having a seizure here while obviously not having it while playing the sim? Blinking lights are the reason for his seizure, but it's not simply because of the lights of the instruments in a real plane.
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 9:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I like the propellor idea...
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 9:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

propellor v sun? Yes

************SPOILER*************

The man had a history of epilepsy, and was particularly photosensitive (rapid, blinking lights gave him a seizure). He stole a small plane in which the spinning propellor is in view from the cockpit. When he flew towards the sun, the spinning propellor caused a blinking light that gave him a seizure and rendered him unconscious, thus crashing the plane. A certified pilot cannot have a history of epilepsy, or he would not be able to get his flight license.
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 9:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good job everyone. I think it's enough with all the warm-up, quickie puzzles. I need a good hard one.

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