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Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 10:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If they put them out in the first place then we wouldn't need to!
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They= 2 People? More [3 through infinitum]? Are they some type of official? Public servant? Their jobs relevant?

Us= You? Your family? Your neighborhood? England? The public in general? Me?

Oh, wait, are 'they' human? Adult? Alive? Genders relevant?

Are the 'them' objects? Animals? Announcements?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 7:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Put out the silverware?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 5:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Put out candles?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 7:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

SBQ's, I'm afraid...

They:
a group acting together?
a group acting separately?
an undefined individual ("They" as second-person gender-neutral singular)

Put them out:
extinguished something?
displayed something?
ejected something? or someone?
made something available?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They= 2 People? More many more but exact number not relevant [3 through infinitum]? Are they some type of official? no Public servant? no Their jobs relevant? yes

Us= {if you mean the 'we' in the statement then.. You? yes Your family? yope Your neighborhood? some England? some The public in general? this is the closest Me? unlikely

Oh, wait, are 'they' human? yes Adult?yes Alive? alive Genders relevant? yes

Are the 'them' objects? yes Animals? Announcements?

By Dref (Dref) on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 07:04 pm:


Put out the silverware? no

By Dref (Dref) on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 05:44 am:


Put out candles? no

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 07:29 am:


SBQ's, I'm afraid...

They:
a group acting together? \b {no}
a group acting separately? not exactly
an undefined individual ("They" as second-person gender-neutral singular) the general public

Put them out:
extinguished something? no
displayed something? yesish
ejected something? no or someone? no
made something available? yes
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 6:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So if (some parts of?) the general public had displayed or made something available, (some other part of?) the general public wouldn't need to?

Wouldn't need to take an action? make a decision? make something? make something else available?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 7:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So if (some parts of?) the general public no not the general public but other people of a ceratin job had displayed or made something available, (some other part of?) the general public wouldn't need to? yes

Wouldn't need to take an action? not exactly make a decision? no make something? nomake something else available? no
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 7:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK, then the "they"'s job:

Service industry?
administrative?
manufacturing?
product design?
sales? (if yes, retail? wholesale? resale? of a tangible item? or of a non-tangible?)
health care?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 7:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK, then the "they"'s job:

Service industry?
administrative?
manufacturing?
product design? no to these
sales? yes if yes, retail? this wholesale? resale? of a tangible item? {this} or of a non-tangible?)
health care? yesish
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pharmacy/apothecary/chemists/drug stores?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 10:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pharmacy/apothecary/chemists/drug stores? all of these
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 10:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If they displayed some medicament on the shelves, we wouldn't have to ask for it at the counter?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If they displayed some medicament on the shelves, we wouldn't have to ask for it at the counter? no
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 11:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wouldn't need to what? Ask for them? Look for them?
Is there embarrassment associated with these objects?
Sales personnel: male? female? age relevant?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 2:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wouldn't need to what? thats the key to the solution :) Ask for them? maybe this as well as... Look for them? no
Is there embarrassment associated with these objects? no (unless they are grossly misused!)
Sales personnel: male? female? both but most would probably be female age relevant? not really
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 2:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are these things packaged? Does "put them out" have more than one meaning in the puzzle context?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 8:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are these things packaged? yes Does "put them out" have more than one meaning in the puzzle context? no. only that by 'putting them out' would make these things available to the public
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are these items generally available: only in the UK? all over the world (as far as you know)?

Have you ever bought these items without having to ask a sales assistant for them? e.g. at a supermarket?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 1:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are these items generally available: only in the UK? all over the world (as far as you know)? all over the world

Have you ever bought these items without having to ask a sales assistant for them? yes e.g. at a supermarket? yes
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 5:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So these things are something that is out on the shelves in a supermarket, and is available, but not out on the shelves, in a pharmacy?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 11:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So these things are something that is out on the shelves in a supermarket, and is available, but not out on the shelves, in a pharmacy? no, these things could be out on the shelves of a pharmacy and a supermarket as well as other outlets, however the lack of availability of items connected with these things means that we have to use these things instead
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 3:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the connected things a better alternative with the same purpose?
or, are they something that would have prevented some illness or condition which the other things treat?

Have we been asked or advised to buy these things? if so, by doctors? scientists? advertisers? pharmacists? supermarkets? governments? politicians?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 4:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do these things consist of two? or more? parts or components? Is one part readily available at a pharmacy, but another isn't? Does one part have to be replaced on a frequent? regular? occasional? basis?
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 10:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are these items electrical? medicinal? cosmetic (i.e. make-up)? relating to hygiene? for use mainly by women? or men? equally by both sexes?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 11:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the connected things a better alternative with the same purpose? yesish
or, are they something that would have prevented some illness or condition which the other things treat? no

Have we been asked or advised to buy these things? no if so, by doctors? no scientists? no advertisers? yes probably pharmacists? not really supermarkets? nogovernments? politicians? no to these

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 04:14 am:


Do these things consist of two? occaisionallyor more? occasionally parts or components? yes Is one part readily available at a pharmacy, but another isn't? no Does one part have to be replaced on a frequent? noregular? occasional? basis? no, the items which should be avilablr to consumers can come as singular items or as items which have more than one component, these items are sometime made available but if they were always made available then we wouldn't have to use that we do end up using!

By Tricia Harvey (Trixie) on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 10:24 am:


Are these items electrical? medicinal? cosmetic (i.e. make-up)? this and you are spot on with make-u! used women? or men? equally by both sexes? mostly women although i have known men to use them too!
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 12:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

eye make-up? lipstick? face make-up? brushes? or am I being too specific?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 12:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

eye make-up? lipstick? face make-up? all f these brushes? not this or am I being too specific? all types of make up are relevant, but not make up applicators
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 3:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Make-up compacts? Make-up bags? (so that we don't have to use plastic baggies?) Pocket mirrors?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Make-up compacts? yes Make-up bags? no(so that we don't have to use plastic baggies?)no but OTRT Pocket mirrors? no
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When I go to try on make up - use the testers on the back of my hand - I can never find a tissue to wipe it off again. Is this it?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 3:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When I go to try on make up - use the testers on the back of my hand - I can never find a tissue to wipe it off again. Is this it? no but quite close
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 4:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, is it that the testers often aren't there or are empty, or are nasty and dried out? And as often as not, someone's opened up a fresh package to test?

Is what we have to do is buy without knowing for sure that it's a good color?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 4:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is what "they" should put out the little individual testers, like MaryKay and Avon use?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 11:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, is it that the testers often aren't there or are empty, or are nasty and dried out? And as often as not, someone's opened up a fresh package to test? YES!

Is what we have to do is buy without knowing for sure that it's a good color? this too!

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 04:15 pm:


Is what "they" should put out the little individual testers, like MaryKay and Avon use? YES!

*********************SPOILER********************
A silly puzzle inspired by my recent trip to Boots to get some makeup. I could not find an available tester for anything I wanted to try so ended up trying out the 'non-testers'. Interestingly they had a sign out saying 'Please refrain from using products to test' or something to that effect anyway but if sales staff put them out in the first place then I wouldn't have too! - So frustrating!

Well done Rabrab :)
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 12:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Y'know, if Trixie hadn't mentioned the testers, I would never have even thought of that, since there are almost never testers around. I'd just about forgotten that they really exist.

Nice puzzle; lots of directions to wander off in.
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Couldn't agree more Rabrab - good puzzle! As Pandora says, so often you find a colour you think you might like and then find there is no tester available. It would also be useful if more shops put a box of tissues available to wipe the make-up off the back of your hand (if, of course, you do actually find a tester to use!). So far, I have only been in one shop in the UK which offers them.

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