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Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 4:46 pm: |      |
I went into a large ten-story hotel and took the elevator from the ground floor to the top floor. Nobody else got into or left the elevator until I got to the top floor yet the elevator stopped at each floor. I did not press any buttons or request the elevator to stop. What was happening? |
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 5:07 pm: |      |
A normal enclosed elevator? Was someone running up the stairs and pushing the "up" button on each floor as you went up? Is this "normal" behaviour for this particular elevator? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 6:02 pm: |      |
Tim, A normal enclosed elevator? YES Was someone running up the stairs and pushing the "up" button on each floor as you went up? GOOD ANSWER BUT NO Is this "normal" behaviour for this particular elevator? YES AND NO |
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 6:47 pm: |      |
the person who got off as you were entering had pushed every button, so when you went up, the elevator stopped at each floor as it was instructed? |
John Morahan (Wunderland)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 7:12 pm: |      |
Everyone in the building was heading for the top floor for some reason, so the lift was stopping at every floor, but nobody got in because it was already full? |
Jennifer Warde (Tigger32382)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 8:21 pm: |      |
was someone in the elevator with you from the beginning? was there an elevator operator? |
dryman (Dryman)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 9:19 pm: |      |
were any midgets involved? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 9:59 pm: |      |
Lewis and John, the person who got off as you were entering had pushed every button, so when you went up, the elevator stopped at each floor as it was instructed? NO Everyone in the building was heading for the top floor for some reason, so the lift was stopping at every floor, but nobody got in because it was already full? NO - I WAS THE ONLY ONE IN THE LIFT |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 10:00 pm: |      |
Jennifer and Dryman, was someone in the elevator with you from the beginning? was there an elevator operator? NO were any midgets involved? GOOD QUESTION, DAMN MIDGETS GET EVERYWHERE. HOWEVER THERE ARE NONE IN THIS PUZZLE. |
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 10:17 pm: |      |
Yes and no to normal behaviour--is it normal in particular circumstances? Was it functioning in some kind of diagnostic mode? Was it functioning in a particular mode intended for people with disabilities or some such? |
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 10:17 pm: |      |
had anyone other than you pressed buttons to stop the lift? you said no one entered - but was there someone waiting to go up at any of the floors? did anyone decide not to enter the lift when the doors opened? could this have happened without you in the lift? without anyone in the lift? was there anything unusual about your appearance that might make someone change their mind about entering the lift? Could this be the scenario: there are people at each floor pressing buttons to go up, but there is another lift which reaches each floor just before you, so when your lift doors open the people are already entering the other lift, so there is no one left to get into yours? |
John Faben (Bentarm)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 2:36 am: |      |
The lift stopped at every floor... does this mean that it stopped 10 times? Or perhaps the other 10 storeys of the building don't have floors? Does the lift stop at every floor so that if there are any midgets or particularly tall people who have difficulty reaching certain buttons they will not be disappointed? |
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 4:32 am: |      |
You didn't request the elevator to stop, but did you expect the elevator to stop at every floor? You were the only person in the lift - was there anything else in the lift? Was the elevator a "pedestrian" elevator? Was it a freight elevator? - Were you required to pass certain objects out as you went up. |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 8:56 am: |      |
Tim, Yes and no to normal behaviour--is it normal in particular circumstances? YES Was it functioning in some kind of diagnostic mode? NO Was it functioning in a particular mode intended for people with disabilities or some such? NO - NOT DISABILITIES |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 8:58 am: |      |
HANNAH, had anyone other than you pressed buttons to stop the lift? NO you said no one entered - but was there someone waiting to go up at any of the floors? did anyone decide not to enter the lift when the doors opened? NO could this have happened without you in the lift? without anyone in the lift? YES YES was there anything unusual about your appearance that might make someone change their mind about entering the lift? NO Could this be the scenario: there are people at each floor pressing buttons to go up, but there is another lift which reaches each floor just before you, so when your lift doors open the people are already entering the other lift, so there is no one left to get into yours? INGENIOUS BUT NOT WHAT HAPPENED HERE |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 9:01 am: |      |
JOHN AND BEN, The lift stopped at every floor... does this mean that it stopped 10 times? YES Or perhaps the other 10 storeys of the building don't have floors? CLEVER BUT NOT RIGHT Does the lift stop at every floor so that if there are any midgets or particularly tall people who have difficulty reaching certain buttons they will not be disappointed? NO You didn't request the elevator to stop, but did you expect the elevator to stop at every floor? NO You were the only person in the lift - was there anything else in the lift? NO Was the elevator a "pedestrian" elevator? YES Was it a freight elevator? - Were you required to pass certain objects out as you went up. NO GOOD QUESTIONS |
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 1:37 pm: |      |
Did the lift stop on every floor due to buttons that had been pushed? if so: were said buttons the external wall ones, or the internal ones? Did the elevator come from the department "Of making simple things complicated" and have things like proximity sensors to detect whether someone is waiting for the lift (and it keeps picking up say a pot plant as someone waiting for the lift) or push-less buttons (detect whether your hand 'would' be pushing the button, had there been a button there) Was the elevator steel or glass (or other relevant material?) |
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 2:40 pm: |      |
Was it working in a mode designed for someone whose hands were full or was wearing mittens or some such (i. e. they couldn't push the buttons)? For maintenance or custodial personnel? Or maybe there were a lot of people staying at the hotel who had brought their pet armadillos, and they liked the armadillos to be able to get to the proper floor alone after going for a constitutional? Was there any relevant event taking place at the hotel? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 4:30 pm: |      |
Benjamin, Did the lift stop on every floor due to buttons that had been pushed? NO if so: were said buttons the external wall ones, or the internal ones? Did the elevator come from the department "Of making simple things complicated" and have things like proximity sensors to detect whether someone is waiting for the lift (and it keeps picking up say a pot plant as someone waiting for the lift) or push-less buttons (detect whether your hand 'would' be pushing the button, had there been a button there) NO Was the elevator steel or glass (or other relevant material?) IRRELEVANT |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 4:32 pm: |      |
TIM, Was it working in a mode designed for someone whose hands were full or was wearing mittens or some such (i. e. they couldn't push the buttons)? NO For maintenance or custodial personnel? NO Or maybe there were a lot of people staying at the hotel who had brought their pet armadillos, and they liked the armadillos to be able to get to the proper floor alone after going for a constitutional? NO Was there any relevant event taking place at the hotel? NO |
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 4:37 pm: |      |
Were there other elevators at the hotel? If so, were they all working like that? Or were any others working that way? Children relevant? Was it some sort of emergency mode? Is there anything about the specific hotel relevant (other than the number of floors)? Are the doors opening for a passenger to exit or enter (i. e. is that the intent of them opening)? Had you done anything to trigger the opening of the doors on each floor (other than boarding)? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 4:53 pm: |      |
Tim, Were there other elevators at the hotel? If so, were they all working like that? YES, YES Children relevant? NO Was it some sort of emergency mode? NO Is there anything about the specific hotel relevant (other than the number of floors)? YES Are the doors opening for a passenger to exit or enter (i. e. is that the intent of them opening)? YES Had you done anything to trigger the opening of the doors on each floor (other than boarding)? NO |
Jennifer Warde (Tigger32382)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 4:55 pm: |      |
Is the hotel part of a chain of hotels? should we figure out the name? or just what was special about it? did it cater to a specific, relevant clientele? is the location of the hotel relevant? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 5:06 pm: |      |
JENNIFER Is the hotel part of a chain of hotels? IRRELEVANT should we figure out the name? or just what was special about it? NO, YES did it cater to a specific, relevant clientele? is the location of the hotel relevant? YES, YES |
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 5:50 pm: |      |
Location is relevant in terms of Continent? Country? State/Province? County? City? Local geology? Local climate? Local custom? Local flora? Local fauna? Local history? Is it a hotel catering to people with OCD? Is it a "themed" hotel (as in Las Vegas or Orlando)? Is it intended for people with particular characteristics? Particular hobbies? Undertaking a particular task? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 5:57 pm: |      |
Tim, Location is relevant in terms of Continent? Country? State/Province? County? City? Local geology? Local climate? Local custom? Local flora? Local fauna? Local history? NO, YES, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, YES, NO, NO, NO Is it a hotel catering to people with OCD? I DON'T THINK SO - WHAT IS IT? Is it a "themed" hotel (as in Las Vegas or Orlando)? NO Is it intended for people with particular characteristics? Particular hobbies? Undertaking a particular task? DIFFICULT - I WOULD SAY YES, NO, YES BUT THIS NEEDS MORE PRECISE QUESTIONING |
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 6:16 pm: |      |
Well, with the elevator behaving like that predictably, blind people would have no problem identifying the floor that they wanted... Did this hotel cater to the blind? at all times? sometimes? Was there a convention of the blind going on? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 6:21 pm: |      |
BARBARA Well, with the elevator behaving like that predictably, blind people would have no problem identifying the floor that they wanted... Did this hotel cater to the blind? at all times? sometimes? Was there a convention of the blind going on? NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BLIND |
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 6:25 pm: |      |
Hmmm...religion relevant? OCD = Obsessive Compulsive Disorder |
Jennifer Warde (Tigger32382)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 7:38 pm: |      |
country is in north america? europe? south america? africa? australia? asia? |
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 10:25 pm: |      |
I was specifically thinking of maybe Israel and the Sabbath... |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Friday, September 16, 2005 - 8:39 am: |      |
Tim, I was specifically thinking of maybe Israel and the Sabbath... *******SPOILER******** This was in Tel Aviv on the Sabbath. Orthodox Jews are forbidden to press buttons on this day, so the elevator is programmed to stop at every floor to let people enter and leave. |