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Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 11:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gotcha!

Why, in the middle of an important event in the 2006 Uni games, did a member of the Victoria team stop play and propose marraige to the entire opposing team?
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 11:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Marriage, I mean.
Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 11:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gender of the player relevant? Male/female? Opposing team--male/female?
To distract them? Did he want them to accept? Way in which he did it relevant? Did he shout it out? Raise a hand-made sign?
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Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Uni games = some sports event? (Forgive my ignorance) If yes: type of sport relevant?

Victoria team members = human? adult? male? female?
the opposing team members = human? adult? male? female?

Was the team member thankful for something? Did s/he want to distract the other team?
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 12:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

JJ

Gender of the player relevant? yes Male yes Opposing team--female? yes
To distract them? no Did he want them to accept? no Way in which he did it relevant? yes Did he shout it out? no Raise a hand-made sign? no

0815

Uni games = some sports event? yes - annual sports exchange between NZ universities (Forgive my ignorance) If yes: type of sport relevant? yes

Victoria team members = human? hah. yes adult? yes male? yes female? and yes
the opposing team members = human? yes adult? yes male? no female? yes

Was the team member thankful for something? not especially Did s/he want to distract the other team? no
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 8:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Country relevant?
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 1:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Country relevant? specifically? No. But this would not be a good idea in certain countries.
Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
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Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 5:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The entire opposing team is female, whearas the Victoria team consists of both males and females, correct?
Did this man think that his proposing would help his team win the game? Did his team win in the end?
Was it rowing? soccer? cricket? rugby? volleyball? land-based? sea-based?
Would it work if the entire opposing team was male, and it was a female Victoria team member who proposed?
Stop play = he just stopped playing himself? or did he call for a time-out?
Did he go up to each of the members and propose to them individually? Did the oposing team hear his marriage proposal? Did they see it?
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Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 6:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it obvious to all the Victoria team members that he was proposing? to all the opposing team members? to all the spectators?
If so, did they find his behaviour strange? Or did they see it as perfectly natural?
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 9:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

JJ

The entire opposing team is female, whearas the Victoria team consists of both males and females, correct? yes
Did this man think that his proposing would help his team win the game? yes Did his team win in the end? yes
Was it rowing? soccer? cricket? rugby? volleyball? no to all land-based? yes sea-based? no
Would it work if the entire opposing team was male, and it was a female Victoria team member who proposed? possibly, but much less likely
Stop play = he just stopped playing himself? yes or did he call for a time-out? no
Did he go up to each of the members and propose to them individually? no Did the oposing team hear his marriage proposal? yes Did they see it? yes

JJ, again

Was it obvious to all the Victoria team members that he was proposing? yes to all the opposing team members? yes to all the spectators? yes
If so, did they find his behaviour strange? a little Or did they see it as perfectly natural? almost
Plebeian (Plebeian)
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Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 10:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the man slip or suffer an accident and end up down on one knee?
0815 (0815)
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Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the proposal spoken? shouted? written? communicated in some other way?

Does the sport involve a ball? bats? rackets? clubs? a net? goals? protective clothing?

Number of players per team: 2? 3? ...(insert list of integers)? 100? more?
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was this in an arabic country where women undressing in public is illegal?
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Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 1:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pleb

Did the man slip or suffer an accident and end up down on one knee? no

0815

Was the proposal spoken? yes shouted? no written? no communicated in some other way? no

Does the sport involve a ball? bats? rackets? clubs? a net? goals? protective clothing? no to all

Number of players per team: 3? yes

Crazypalpig

Was this in an arabic country where women undressing in public is illegal? no
Plebeian (Plebeian)
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Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 2:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the proposal humourous? Or intended as a disctraction?
Was there something about the dress of the opposing girls which prompted this proposal? Or something about the actions of the girls?
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the proposal humourous? yes Or intended as a disctraction? no
Was there something about the dress of the opposing girls which prompted this proposal? no Or something about the actions of the girls? no
Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
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Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 6:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Victoria team: 2 males and 1 female? 2 females and 1 male? relevant?
Did he use any props? eg flowers, ring etc.
Did the entire Victoria team play the entire opposing team at the same time, in the same game, or was it a sport like table tennis or bowling, where each player takes on another individually?
So if he hadn't proposed, Victoria wouldn't have won? Exact words he said relevant? did he just say, "Will you marry me?" Did the opposing team members laugh? Were they offended? Did they answer him? Did they say yes? no? something else?
Plebeian (Plebeian)
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Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 9:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was some proposal to another person put up on the scoreboard, saying something to the effect of 'Victoria wants to marry you'? Or some announcement over the speaker system?
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 10:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

JJ

Victoria team: relevant? no
Did he use any props? eg flowers, ring etc. no
Did the entire Victoria team play the entire opposing team at the same time, in the same game, yes or was it a sport like table tennis or bowling, where each player takes on another individually? no
So if he hadn't proposed, Victoria wouldn't have won? no, they'd have probably won anyway Exact words he said relevant? no did he just say, "Will you marry me?" more or less Did the opposing team members laugh? yes Were they offended? no Did they answer him? not immediately Did they say yes? no no? yes something else? and yes

Pleb

Was some proposal to another person put up on the scoreboard, saying something to the effect of 'Victoria wants to marry you'? no Or some announcement over the speaker system? no
0815 (0815)
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Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 12:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the sport usually played outside? in a gym? Did they play outside? in a gym?
Is it an Olympic discipline? A regional sport? Something made up for this tournament?
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When did they answer him--after the game? Did their reply hinge on the result of the game?
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 1:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

JJ

Is the sport usually played outside? no in a gym? rarely Did they play outside? no in a gym? no
Is it an Olympic discipline? no A regional sport? no Something made up for this tournament? no

0815

When did they answer him--after the game? no Did their reply hinge on the result of the game? no
Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
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Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 6:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmmm. No balls, rackets, clubs or bats.. Is it generally considered a physical sport at all? Is it debating?
Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 4:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it debating? yes
Solane (Solane)
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Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 4:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the propsal one of his points in his argument? Leading to one? An opener? A responce? Relevent which team was first?(If there is first, my school has/had no debate team, so I wouldn't know. Grrr...)
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Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 5:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the motion have anything to do with marriage? men? women? polygamy? monogamy?
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Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 11:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Solane

Was the proposal An opener? yes

JJ

Did the motion have anything to do with polygamy? yeS

***** SPOILER *****

In the third round of the debating event at the 2006 NZ Uni games, Vic 3 were negating the moot 'That we should legalise polygamy' against Auckland 5. The third speaker on the Victoria team introduced his cost-benefit analysis by suggesting a world in which polygamy were readily practised.


And yes, it was me. Thanks for playing.

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