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0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 488 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 10:24 am: |      |
As the sun is going down, Jack walks into a monastery, a woman at his side. The monk guarding the door utters a short greeting but doesn't comment on the woman. Explain. |
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd
Post Number: 32 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 10:45 am: |      |
Was this a Christian monastery? A Buddhist one? A different one? Was the woman visible to the monk? Did he see that it was a woman? Is Jack HMA (Human? Male? Adult?) How about the woman? Is she Human and Adult? t And the monk? Human? Male? Adult? Does the sun going down have any relevance? Does the topic title have a relevance? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 489 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:15 am: |      |
Was this a Christian monastery? this A Buddhist one? A different one? Was the woman visible to the monk? not at this point Did he see that it was a woman? yes, he had seen her. Is Jack HMA (Human? Male? Adult?) yes to all How about the woman? Is she Human and Adult? yes to both And the monk? Human? Male? Adult? yes to all Does the sun going down have any relevance? yope Does the topic title have a relevance? yope |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3083 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:33 am: |      |
Is Jack a monk? Is the woman related to anyone in the monastery? Is she visiting someone? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 491 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:36 am: |      |
Is Jack a monk? yes Is the woman related to anyone in the monastery? no Is she visiting someone? no |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3084 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:40 am: |      |
Is the woman a nun? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 492 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:44 am: |      |
Is the woman a nun? Definitely not. |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3085 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:52 am: |      |
Was she someone that was being helped by Jack? Age relevant? Was she young, old? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 493 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 11:56 am: |      |
Was she someone that was being helped by Jack? no Age relevant? yes, somewhat Was she young, old? young |
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd
Post Number: 33 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 12:00 pm: |      |
Is Jack someone important? Did the monk (not Jack, the other one) know the woman? Did Jack want to sneak the woman in without her being seen by the monk? Was this particular woman welcoe in the monastery? What was the monastery's policy on women? Were they disallowed? Allowed under certain conditions? Allowed freely? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 494 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 12:02 pm: |      |
Is Jack someone important? no Did the monk (not Jack, the other one) know the woman? no Did Jack want to sneak the woman in without her being seen by the monk? no Was this particular woman welcoe in the monastery? no What was the monastery's policy on women? Were they disallowed? yes Allowed under certain conditions? no Allowed freely? no |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3087 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 12:09 pm: |      |
Is the woman dressed as a man? As a monk? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 495 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 12:18 pm: |      |
Is the woman dressed as a man? As a monk? no to both |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 99 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 12:25 pm: |      |
Is the womans profession relevant? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 497 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 12:26 pm: |      |
Is the womans profession relevant? yope |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 100 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 12:31 pm: |      |
Would the monk have questioned the womans entry to the monastery if she had been on her own? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 498 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 12:35 pm: |      |
Would the monk have questioned the womans entry to the monastery if she had been on her own? FA |
Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian
Post Number: 627 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 1:01 pm: |      |
Is the woman seeking refuge? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 499 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 1:22 pm: |      |
Is the woman seeking refuge? no |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 101 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 1:24 pm: |      |
Is the woman related to Jack? Should Jack be with the woman? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 500 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 1:55 pm: |      |
Is the woman related to Jack? no (assuming you mean "related" as in family) Should Jack be with the woman? no |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 372 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 4:12 pm: |      |
I know of this island near italy in which nobody is allowed to be born or to die there,. was the woman pregnant? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 503 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 4:17 pm: |      |
I know of this island near italy in which nobody is allowed to be born or to die there,. was the woman pregnant? no, irrel |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 105 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 4:39 pm: |      |
Does the guard monk know Jack? Has the guard monk seen the woman before? Has the woman been to the monastery before? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 504 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 5:32 pm: |      |
Does the guard monk know Jack? yes Has the guard monk seen the woman before? yes Has the woman been to the monastery before? yope, FA |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 106 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 5:58 pm: |      |
Is the FA that the woman actually went to the monastery? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3091 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 6:14 pm: |      |
Is the woman visible to Jack? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 505 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 6:20 pm: |      |
Is the FA that the woman actually went to the monastery? yes (with a tiny -ish) - explore Is the woman visible to Jack? not at this point |
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd
Post Number: 44 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 6:33 pm: |      |
Is the woman conscious? alive? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 506 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 6:40 pm: |      |
Is the woman conscious? alive? NO! |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 3092 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 7:13 pm: |      |
Is he a pallbearer? |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 91 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 7:30 pm: |      |
Did the woman have sex with Jack when she was alive? Was she killed? Died of natural causes? |
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd
Post Number: 48 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 8:21 pm: |      |
Was the woman in a coffin? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 507 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 9:30 am: |      |
Is he a pallbearer? no Did the woman have sex with Jack yes when she was alive? FA Was she killed? Died of natural causes? FA Was the woman in a coffin? no |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 112 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 12:35 pm: |      |
Has the woman ever been alive? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 512 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 12:41 pm: |      |
Has the woman ever been alive? no (but also yes... the last few questions were rather difficult to answer, I'm afraid - explore) |
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd
Post Number: 58 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 12:44 pm: |      |
Was the woman a real person? Or a robot? A doll? A mannequin? Was she a supernatural being? Was she a vampire? |
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd
Post Number: 59 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 12:44 pm: |      |
By "supernatural being", I meant an angel, or a demon, or a devil... |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 113 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 12:46 pm: |      |
Was the woman a representation of a real living woman but not actually real, as in a statue or dummy based on someone who existed? I wanna say inflatible? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 514 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 12:55 pm: |      |
Was the woman a real person? NO! (and yes again...) Or a robot? A doll? A mannequin? no to rest Was she a supernatural being? no Was she a vampire? no By "supernatural being", I meant an angel, or a demon, or a devil... so, no Some clarification on a few of the previous questions may be needed. I'm sorry. These are really hard to answer the way they are phrased. Is the woman conscious? alive? NO! (and: yes, irrel) Did the woman have sex with Jack yes! - but be careful with this one. Please rephrase! when she was alive? FA |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 515 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 1:00 pm: |      |
Was the woman a representation of a real living woman but not actually real YES!, as in a statue or dummy based on someone who existed? but not this I wanna say inflatible?No. Don't worry. |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 114 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 1:01 pm: |      |
Painting? Photograph? Tattoo? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 516 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 1:04 pm: |      |
Painting? Photograph? Tattoo? THIS! So, why did monk Jack have a tattoo of a young woman with whom he had had sex in the past (the woman, not the tattoo)? See why some of the questions were so hard to answer? |
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd
Post Number: 63 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 1:07 pm: |      |
How old is John? Is he in his 90's? 80's? 70's? 60's? 50's? 40's? 30's? 20's? When did he get the tattoo? In his 90's? 80's?... etc... Did he get the tattoo voluntarily? Or did someone request him to do this? Force him to do this? Did he become a monk to, uh, "apologize" for his past sins? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 518 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 1:13 pm: |      |
How old is John? Is he in his 90's? 80's? 70's? 60's? 50's? 40's? 30's? 20's? Not so relevant. Let's say early 30's. When did he get the tattoo? In his 90's? 80's?... etc... In his 20's. Did he get the tattoo voluntarily? yes Or did someone request him to do this? Force him to do this? no to rest Did he become a monk to, uh, "apologize" for his past sins? noish, but explore! |
Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo
Post Number: 1869 Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 2:08 pm: |      |
Is he hiding? |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 103 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 6:07 pm: |      |
Has the monk ever been in prison? The woman represented by the tattoo is dead, right? Alive? Was/is she his wife? His girlfriend? Was/is she a prostitute? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 519 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 9:23 am: |      |
Is he hiding? no Has the monk ever been in prison? no The woman represented by the tattoo is dead, right? Alive? this, but irrel Was/is she his wife? no His girlfriend? yesish Was/is she a prostitute? no |
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd
Post Number: 99 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 9:49 am: |      |
Was she a nun? Or is she a nun? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 520 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 9:52 am: |      |
Was she a nun? Or is she a nun? no to both |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 128 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 10:21 am: |      |
Did he have an affair with this woman? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 523 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 10:38 am: |      |
Did he have an affair with this woman? yes! |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 130 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 1:32 pm: |      |
Did he have an affair with this woman before he became a monk? After? Did it end badly? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 533 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 1:36 pm: |      |
Did he have an affair with this woman before he became a monk? this After? Did it end badly? irrel |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 131 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 1:52 pm: |      |
Is it not as simple as "because he wanted his girlfriend tattooed on his arm?" then later he became a monk after the affair ended? What are we trying to find out? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 534 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:07 pm: |      |
Is it not as simple as "because he wanted his girlfriend tattooed on his arm?" this is one part, yes then later he became a monk after the affair ended? yes What are we trying to find out? Why did he become a monk? |
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd
Post Number: 106 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:11 pm: |      |
Someone told him to do that? He wanted to get some profit from being a monk? He wanted to get inside the monastery? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 536 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:14 pm: |      |
Someone told him to do that? no He wanted to get some profit from being a monk? no He wanted to get inside the monastery? well, yes, but only because he wanted to become a monk |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 134 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:15 pm: |      |
Was it for his own safety? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 539 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:21 pm: |      |
Was it for his own safety? no, or maybe yope, depending on your view of things... |
Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian
Post Number: 665 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 1:15 pm: |      |
Did the man become a monk in order to forget about his past love? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 548 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 10:05 am: |      |
Did the man become a monk in order to forget about his past love? no |
Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd
Post Number: 150 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 11:41 am: |      |
Did he sworn to become a monk? |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg
Post Number: 145 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 1:19 pm: |      |
Were his reasons for becoming a monk related to; his old love? losing his old love? what happened after they split up? something that happened while they were together? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 549 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 6:18 pm: |      |
Did he sworn to become a monk? YES - why? Were his reasons for becoming a monk related to; his old love? yope losing his old love? no what happened after they split up? yope something that happened while they were together? yope |
Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi
Post Number: 158 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 10:11 pm: |      |
Could you say that four (or more?) relevant events happened in the past? (1) an affair with a woman started (2) the affair ended (3) he got a tattoo (4) he swore to become a monk Is the order of those relevant? If yes is it 1, 2, 3, 4? 1, 2, 4, 3?...(List of permutating numbers, 1 being before 2)? Is there still something to be found out about sex or celibacy? Is the title relevant? Is someone adapting? |
Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian
Post Number: 694 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 10:45 am: |      |
Did he promise the girl he would become a monk? If she did something (like become a nun)? Or didn't do something (like sleep with him? Or marry him?) |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 550 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 8:46 am: |      |
Could you say that four (or more?) relevant events happened in the past? yes, more than 4 actually (1) an affair with a woman started (2) the affair ended (3) he got a tattoo (4) he swore to become a monk Is the order of those relevant? yesish If yes is it 1, 2, 3, 4? 1, 2, 4, 3?...(List of permutating numbers, 1 being before 2)? any permutation ending with 4 would work Is there still something to be found out about sex or celibacy? yes Is the title relevant? in the usual obscure way of the LTPF Is someone adapting? yesish |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 551 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 8:47 am: |      |
Did he promise the girl he would become a monk? NO If she did something (like become a nun)? n.a. Or didn't do something (like sleep with him? Or marry him?)n.a. |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Post Number: 165 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 9:10 am: |      |
Anyone else involved? Is he happy about becomoing a monk? or Would he have been happier if he had remained with this woman? Who ended the affair Him? Her? |
Billkatt888 (Billkatt888)
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Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 9:57 am: |      |
Did Jack and the woman have consensual sex? When did this happen? Present day? Past 100 years? Past 1000 years? Past 2000 years? Ealier? Any connection to bible romans? |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 552 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 11:36 am: |      |
Anyone else involved? yes Is he happy about becomoing a monk? yesish or Would he have been happier if he had remained with this woman? I'd say no Who ended the affair Him? yes Her? no Did Jack and the woman have consensual sex? yes When did this happen? Present day? Past 100 years? Past 1000 years? Past 2000 years? Ealier? 19th century; late 18th or early 20th would work fine, too Any connection to bible romans? no |
Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian
Post Number: 751 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 11:41 am: |      |
Did the woman do something which disillusioned the man (like have an affair? Or something involving a child of theirs?), whereupon the man decided to give up on women & become a monk? |
0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 553 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 1:06 pm: |      |
Did the woman do something which disillusioned the man (like have an affair? Or something involving a child of theirs?), whereupon the man decided to give up on women & become a monk? no to all |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Post Number: 170 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 1:11 pm: |      |
He had an affair with a woman? And had a tattoo of her on his arm? *Something* Happened? He finished with her? He became a monk? Is this the correct sequence, with the *something* being the thing that needs to be discovered? |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 554 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 1:21 pm: |      |
He had an affair with a woman? yes... And had a tattoo of her on his arm? yes *Something* Happened? yes He finished with her? yes, but this happened before the *something* He became a monk? yes Is this the correct sequence no, see above, with the *something* being the thing that needs to be discovered? yes, actually you need to discover one *something* and something more about his life before *something* happened. |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Post Number: 171 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 1:50 pm: |      |
How long after finishing with her did this thing happen? immediatly? a few days? weeks? months? years? |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 555 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 2:44 pm: |      |
How long after finishing with her did this thing happen? immediatly? a few days? weeks? months? years? months or years HINT: some standard questions might come in handy |
Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian
Post Number: 752 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 3:58 pm: |      |
Don't know what we'd ask - we know he's HMA and she's HFA, and we have a timescale... Is the monestary a real one? I.e. other monks live here? Is there something significant to be discovered about the woman? Was she at one time married to the Monk? Was she married to someone else at the time of the affair? Was the monk previously (or subsequently?) married to someone else? |
Billkatt888 (Billkatt888)
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Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 8:41 pm: |      |
Does the sun going down have any relevance? Is the monastary in Europe, Asia, North America, South America, Australia, Antartica? Is monastary location relevant? Is monastarty orthodox, catholic, other christian? Does monastary type matter? Is monk ex-military? Does monk feel gulity about woman for some reason? |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 556 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 11:08 am: |      |
Don't know what we'd ask - we know he's HMA and she's HFA, and we have a timescale... yes, but you need to make one more lateral step... Is the monestary a real one? I.e. other monks live here? yes Is there something significant to be discovered about the woman? no Was she at one time married to the Monk? no Was she married to someone else at the time of the affair? irrel Was the monk previously (or subsequently?) married to someone else? no, but... |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 557 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 11:15 am: |      |
Does the sun going down have any relevance? none other than setting this puzzle at the end of a day of hard work in the fields... i.e. no Is the monastary in Europe this, Asia, North America, South America, Australia, Antartica? Is monastary location relevant? yope tending to yesish Is monastarty orthodox, catholic, other christian? catholic, but irrel Does monastary type matter? no Is monk ex-military? no, but explore Does monk feel gulity about woman for some reason? YOPE There were some good questions in the last two posts! |
Plebeian (Plebeian)
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Post Number: 756 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 11:36 am: |      |
Has the monk had sexuality issues in the past? Any significant relationships with other women prior to the one with The Woman? Any subsequent relationships with other women (presumably prior to becoming a monk...?)? Any relations with other men? |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 560 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 11:50 am: |      |
Has the monk had sexuality issues in the past? see below Any significant relationships with other women prior to the one with The Woman? YES! Any subsequent relationships with other women (presumably prior to becoming a monk...? (YES))? YES! Any relations with other men? no |
Plebeian (Plebeian)
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Post Number: 757 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 12:05 pm: |      |
So Woman was just one of many, but a special one? Was he professional, i.e. gigolo? |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 561 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 12:07 pm: |      |
So Woman was just one of many yes, but a special one? NO Was he professional, i.e. gigolo? no |
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Post Number: 178 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 6:41 pm: |      |
Do the women have something in common (apart from knowing him)? Do they know each other? Does the tatoo represent one particular woman? one of his? Is a sexually transmissible disease relevant? Is the country where this happened relevant? If yes: central? east? west? north? south europe? Did he decide to have no more sex? |
Billkatt888 (Billkatt888)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 10:48 pm: |      |
Any connection to "Jack the Lad"? |
0815 (0815)
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 8:54 am: |      |
Do the women have something in common (apart from knowing him)? no Do they know each other? NO Does the tatoo represent one particular woman? one of his? yes Is a sexually transmissible disease relevant? no Is the country where this happened relevant? define "this" If yes: central? east? west? north? south europe? Did he decide to have no more sex? yes |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 572 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 8:59 am: |      |
Any connection to "Jack the Lad"? not intentionally |
Plebeian (Plebeian)
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Post Number: 773 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 10:25 am: |      |
From your last reply, presumably the country with the monastery is a different country to where he met his women, true? Relvant? Was he forced to flee the country? Is he actually a monk? Or just pretending? |
0815 (0815)
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 10:34 am: |      |
From your last reply, presumably the country with the monastery is a different country to where he met his women, true? yes Relvant? yes Was he forced to flee the country? no Is he actually a monk? yes, he is Or just pretending? no |
Plebeian (Plebeian)
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Post Number: 774 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 10:47 am: |      |
Well I suppose we should ask... Is the monastery in Rome? Is it in the Vatican? Was the monk in Rome when he had his women? |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 582 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 11:34 am: |      |
Well I suppose we should ask... Is the monastery in Rome? not necessarily, its exact location is irrel Is it in the Vatican? see above Was the monk in Rome when he had his women? see above, and slight FA You have already found out the important part about the countries: The affairs and becoming a monk happened in different countries. |
Billkatt888 (Billkatt888)
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 3:38 pm: |      |
Is the woman famous? Is the woman influential? Has the woman written some publication about the monk? Was the monk a doctor? Did the monk seduce all the woman? Was the monk in a position of trust when he had sex with the woman? and by implication the other women? Was the monk famous? Was the monk influential? |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 586 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 4:47 pm: |      |
Is the woman famous? no Is the woman influential? no Has the woman written some publication about the monk? no Was the monk a doctor? no Did the monk seduce all the woman? yesish Was the monk in a position of trust when he had sex with the woman? and by implication the other women? er... could you please rephrase these? Was the monk famous? no Was the monk influential? no |
Billkatt888 (Billkatt888)
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 5:25 pm: |      |
By position of trust I mean something like a personal tutor, music teacher. What I am trying to find out is whether the monk's access to the women allowed him to seduce (or be seduced). Is that relevant? Is he in love with the woman? Did he become a monk because she got married? |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 591 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 5:30 pm: |      |
By position of trust I mean something like a personal tutor, music teacher. so, the answer is no What I am trying to find out is whether the monk's access to the women allowed him to seduce (or be seduced). Is that relevant? yope Is he in love with the woman? which one and when? Did he become a monk because she got married? no |
Billkatt888 (Billkatt888)
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 8:34 pm: |      |
Is he in love with the woman he has a tatoo of? Was he in love with her when he separated from the woman he has a tatoo of? Did something happen at a later date to make him fall in love with the woman he has a tatoo of? If so, did he have sex after that or did he get himself unto a monastory? Was he a priest before he became a monk? |
0815 (0815)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 8:53 am: |      |
Is he in love with the woman he has a tatoo of? no Was he in love with her when he separated from the woman he has a tatoo of? maybe Did something happen at a later date to make him fall in love with the woman he has a tatoo of? no If so, did he have sex after that or did he get himself unto a monastory? n.a. Was he a priest before he became a monk? NO |
0815 (0815)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 9:09 am: |      |
OK, 100 posts on this thread - time for a *****RECAP***** In his past, Jack has had affairs with many women. He has got a tattoo on his arm which shows one of these women. This woman was one of many, not a special one. Jack has now become a catholic monk. The affairs and becoming a monk happened in different countries. This is set in the 19th century. Jack is neither ex-military, nor has he been a gigolo, nor a doctor, nor a patron of the arts (or similar) nor a priest. He did not commit any crimes a court would have punished. He is not on the run. To find out: Why did Jack decide to become a monk? |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Post Number: 175 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 9:26 am: |      |
Was there one specific event that caused him to become a Monk? A series of events? A general change in his attitude to his life? |
0815 (0815)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 9:30 am: |      |
Was there one specific event that caused him to become a Monk? YES A series of events? noish A general change in his attitude to his life? YES |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Post Number: 176 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 9:57 am: |      |
Would this work if the Tattoo was one of the many other women? Would the event have occured if he had not got the tattoo? Is the tattoo of any relevance at all? |
0815 (0815)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 10:07 am: |      |
Would this work if the Tattoo was one of the many other women? yes Would the event have occured if he had not got the tattoo? yes Is the tattoo of any relevance at all? yope. It hints at something. Initially I had thought after finding out about the tattoo the rest of the puzzle would go down rather fast... HINT: I'm still missing one of the standard questions... |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Post Number: 177 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 10:22 am: |      |
Was he in the Navy at one stage? |
0815 (0815)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 10:33 am: |      |
Was he in the Navy at one stage? not necessarily the navy, but YES!!!, he was a sailor! |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Post Number: 178 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 10:35 am: |      |
Did he become shipwrecked? |
0815 (0815)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 10:37 am: |      |
Thank you! The question about Jack's previous occupation was the standard question I had been waiting for. |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 610 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 10:38 am: |      |
Did he become shipwrecked? YES! almost there... wanna kill it? |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Post Number: 179 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:19 am: |      |
Did he become a monk because in surviving the shipwreck he found God? and realised there was more meaning to life than sailing the world with a woman in every port? |
0815 (0815)
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Post Number: 611 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:36 am: |      |
Did he become a monk because in surviving the shipwreck he found God? and realised there was more meaning to life than sailing the world with a woman in every port? Time for a ***** SPOILER ***** 19th century. Jack, the sailor has always led a sinful life. At every port they visited, he had new women and never refused a glass of alcohol. One drunken night he decided to get a tattoo of his momentary flame. A few years later his ship gets into a fierce storm near the coast of italy. The ship gets wrecked and Jack is desperately clenching his arms around a piece of wood. In his desperation he promises to God "If you let me survive this, I'll give up my sinful life and pledge my life to you." Well, he survives, and, keeping his vow, he gives up on the women and the drink and becomes a monk. Thanks to all who played and special thanks to Martinfg who did most of the lateral work!!! |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Post Number: 180 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 11:45 am: |      |
Great puzzle, I must admit once the tattoo was found, I guess a sailor should have been the next thing we found. Thanks |