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Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Terry wanted to surprise his girlfriend, but then he couldn't recognize her.
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Ok lets go!

Terry Human? adult? male?
His Girlfriend Human? adult? female?
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Terry Human? adult? male?
His Girlfriend Human? adult? female?
Yes to all
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Terry, his and he - all the same person?
girlfriend, her - all the same person?
Did he actually susprise his girlfriend? Did this lead to her not being recognised by him?
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Terry, his and he - all the same person? Yes
girlfriend, her - all the same person? Yes
Did he actually susprise his girlfriend? Yope
Did this lead to her not being recognised by him? Yes
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So he didn't expect her to react to his surprise the way she did?
Or he didn't recognize her because of her appearance?
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So he didn't expect her to react to his surprise the way she did? No (it's irrevelant how she reacted)
Or he didn't recognize her because of her appearance? No
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Is(are) there any other person(s) in this story?
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Is(are) there any other person(s) in this story? No
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Is the place where he surprised her relevant?
He didn't recognize her because of something she said? The way she looked to him?
Had they been separated for a long time?
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Was the surprise intended to be pleasant for the girlfriend?
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Is the place where he surprised her relevant? No
He didn't recognize her because of something she said? Yope The way she looked to him? No
Had they been separated for a long time? No
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Would somebody else who knew her have recognised her?
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Would somebody else who knew her have recognised her? Yes
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Did he or she have any medical condition? Did he have any disease in his eye(s)?
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Did he or she have any medical condition? Yes Did he have any disease in his eye(s)?Yes
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OK, he had a problem... in his eye? His eyes?
Had this eye(s) problem made him blind? Or just a blurred vision?
Was this eye problem intermitent? (Sometimes he sees, sometimes not)
Did she also have any eye problem? Any other medical condition?
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OK, he had a problem... in his eye? His eyes? [e]Yes
Had this eye(s) problem made him blind? Yes Or just a blurred vision? No
Was this eye problem intermitent? (Sometimes he sees, sometimes not) No
Did she also have any eye problem? No Any other medical condition? No
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OK, by "[e]" I understand he had a problem in one of his eyes.
He could perfectly see with his other eye, right?
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He could perfectly see with his other eye, right? No, I meant both "Yes" and "eyes" :-)
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:-) Is she alive? (Does "recognize" mean recognize a corpse in a morgue?)
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Is she alive? Yes (Does "recognize" mean recognize a corpse in a morgue?) So no
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you missed one of mine earlier
Was his surprise intended to be pleasant for his girlfriend?
Was he blind before he surprised her?
Was he blind soon after he surprised her?
Was he permanently blind? Or temporarily blinded?
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Was his surprise intended to be pleasant for his girlfriend? Yes
Was he blind before he surprised her?Yes
Was he blind soon after he surprised her?No
Was he permanently blind? Yes Or temporarily blinded?No
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Jacek, don't forget to answer questions on "Poor Sarah" :-)
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So are we to determine how he could surprise his girlfriend in particular, given that he couldn't see which person in, say, a group was her?
Was he proposing? Or giving a birthday surprise?
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did her appearance alter in any way due to the surprise?
by 'recognize,' do you mean by sight, or another sense? touch? smell? hearing? er, taste?

long shot: as a gift he got her some sort of plastic surgery that rendered his ability to recognize her by touching her face ineffective. or perhaps he bought her perfume that masked her scent, which he was accustommed to?
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Did he get surgery to restore his vision, then went out to find her and suprise her that he was no onger blind, but then found that he could not retcognise her because he had never seen her before?
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So are we to determine how he could surprise his girlfriend in particular, given that he couldn't see which person in, say, a group was her? Yes, and why couldn't he recognize her in this case in particular
Was he proposing? Irr Or giving a birthday surprise?Irr
did her appearance alter in any way due to the surprise?

by 'recognize,' do you mean by sight, or another sense? touch? smell? hearing? er, taste? By hearing

long shot: as a gift he got her some sort of plastic surgery that rendered his ability to recognize her by touching her face ineffective. No or perhaps he bought her perfume that masked her scent, which he was accustommed to? No

Did he get surgery to restore his vision, Yes then went out to find her and suprise her that he was no onger blind, Yes but then found that he could not retcognise her Yes because he had never seen her before? Yes
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So when he returned with his eyesight restored, he could hear his girlfriend?
But not recognise her voice?
Or not recognise her even though he knew the voice?
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So when he returned with his eyesight restored, he could hear his girlfriend? No
But not recognise her voice? Yes
Or not recognise her even though he knew the voice? Yes
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Was her voice actually different?
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Was her voice actually different? No
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So when he returned home he couldn't hear his girlfriend, right? Was he deaf? Any problems in his ears (internal/external)?
Any object preventing him from hearing?
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So when he returned home he couldn't hear his girlfriend, right? Yes Was he deaf? Yes! Any problems in his ears (internal/external)? Yes (internal)
Any object preventing him from hearing? No
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So, is this the answer? The guy wanted to surprise her by showing her he was no longer blind, but then he couldn't recognize her voice because something made him deaf right after/during the surgery. Consequently, he couldn't determine if she was indeed his girlfriend since he had never seen her before.

Do we have to find out what made him deaf?
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Yes
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Is his deafness related to the surgery?
Acquired deafness (due to, eg, sudden loud noise)?
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Is his deafness related to the surgery? Yes
Acquired deafness (due to, eg, sudden loud noise)? Yes

**** SPOILER ****

Terry, a blind man, had been meeting his girlfriend for the past few months, always recognizing her by her voice. He eventually decided to surprise her. He got a huge loan and paid for a surgery which would restore his eyesight. But, alas, the surgery had accidentally damaged his nervous system and he became permanently deaf. He then couldn't recognize his giflriend, neither by her voice nor by her looks.
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yes, but I imagine the story has a happy ending, as she'd recognise him :-)

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