| Author | Message | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3114 Registered: 12-2000 |
Not many people would make apple crumble the way she did | ||
| Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean Post Number: 988 Registered: 10-2001 |
The same apple crumble that we enjoy with custard for our pudding? She - relevant who it is? Human? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3115 Registered: 12-2000 |
The same apple crumble that we enjoy with custard for our pudding? no She - relevant who it is? yes, but you won't know her so don't worry about'who' Human? yes | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 948 Registered: 6-2001 |
Did she literally make an apple crumble? Was it a really, really old apple? Is there a real apple involved in this puzzle? More than one? Is it relevant when she made apple crumble? time of day? century? time of year? | ||
| Senorina_illuminata (Senorina_illuminata)
New member Username: Senorina_illuminata Post Number: 83 Registered: 9-2006 |
apple the computer company? crumble as in go broke? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3116 Registered: 12-2000 |
Did she literally make an apple crumble? yes Was it a really, really old apple? no Is there a real apple involved in this puzzle? I will say that she used a resin one but it could have been a real one More than one? over time, yes Is it relevant when she made apple crumble? yes time of day? no century? yes time of year? no Sorry, John, but I've posted this before with a different puzzle statement and you joined in, but as there are so many newbies around I've posted it again apple the computer company? no crumble as in go broke? no | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 565 Registered: 3-2006 |
21st century? 20th? 19th? 18th? 17th? 16th? 15th? 14th? 13th? 12th? 11th? 10th? 9th? 8th? 7th? 6th? 5th? 4th? 3rd? 2nd? 1st? BC? Did she use physical strength to make the apple crumble? Did her hands come into contact with the apple? Did she use any tools/equipment to help her crumble the apple? Did anyone help her? Could she crumble the apple immediately? In a few minutes? Hours? Days? Months? Years? Is her occupation relevant? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3117 Registered: 12-2000 |
21st century? 20th? 19th? 18th? 17th? 16th? 15th? 14th? 13th? 12th? 11th? 10th? 9th? 8th? 7th? 6th? 5th? 4th? 3rd? 2nd? 1st? BC? 19th Did she use physical strength to make the apple crumble? yes Did her hands come into contact with the apple? no Did she use any tools/equipment to help her crumble the apple? yes Did anyone help her? no Could she crumble the apple immediately? yes In a few minutes? Hours? Days? Months? Years? Is her occupation relevant? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3118 Registered: 12-2000 |
Is her occupation relevant? yes | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 567 Registered: 3-2006 |
Early 19th century? Late? Was there a historical event happening at the time? Any revolutions? Did she use a torture/execution device to crumble the apple? To strike fear into the hearts of the unfortunate victims? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3119 Registered: 12-2000 |
Early 19th century? no Late? yes Was there a historical event happening at the time? no Any revolutions? not that were relevant Did she use a torture/execution device to crumble the apple? yes To strike fear into the hearts of the unfortunate victims? no | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 568 Registered: 3-2006 |
To test the effectiveness of the device? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3120 Registered: 12-2000 |
To test the effectiveness of the device? no | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 569 Registered: 3-2006 |
For the fun of it? Was she planning to do anything with the crumbled apple? Was her purpose to use the device, or to crumble the apple? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3121 Registered: 12-2000 |
For the fun of it? b{yes} Was she planning to do anything with the crumbled apple? no Was her purpose to use the device, or to crumble the apple? both | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 1878 Registered: 2-2001 |
Was she demonstrating the effectiveness of the device? The cruelty of the device? The "humaneness" of the device? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3122 Registered: 12-2000 |
Was she demonstrating the effectiveness of the device? this is closest, but not really the reason The cruelty of the device? The "humaneness" of the device? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3123 Registered: 12-2000 |
Did she use a torture/execution device to crumble the apple? I think the answer to this should be yope rather than a straight yes | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 578 Registered: 3-2006 |
So does it torture or execute? or both? Does it have another use besides that of torture and execution? Is it usually used to crush people? stretch them? twist them? cut off their limbs? Which part of the body would it target--the whole body? the head? a feature on the head? the neck? the shoulders? arms? hands? torso? lower body? genitals? legs? feet? Would this device be recognisable if it was shown to us today? Is it a conventional device or was it unique and innovative? Is she an upholder of the law? Is she alone when she crumbles the apple? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3129 Registered: 12-2000 |
So does it torture or execute? just execute or both? Does it have another use besides that of torture and execution? yes Is it usually used to crush people? no stretch them? twist them? cut off their limbs? none of these Which part of the body would it target--the whole body? the head? a feature on the head? the neck? the shoulders? arms? hands? torso? lower body? genitals? legs? feet? any of these Would this device be recognisable if it was shown to us today? yes Is it a conventional device or was it unique and innovative? conventional Is she an upholder of the law? not by profession, but she is not breaking any laws if that's what you mean Is she alone when she crumbles the apple? no | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 187 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is it used to electrocute people? Strangle them? Poison them? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3130 Registered: 12-2000 |
Is it used to electrocute people? Strangle them? Poison them? none of those | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 17 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the device used to shoot or impale people? Arrow? Gun? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 579 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is she showing the crumbling of the apple to a small group of people? a large group? How many people are present besides her--1? 2? 3? 4? 5? 6? 7? 8? 9? 10? 10-20? more than 50? more than 100? a few hundred? a few thousand? even more than that? Is there someone present who will be executed shortly? Would a human sentenced to death suffer the same fate as the apple? ie be crumbled? or is the device used in another to way to execute humans? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3131 Registered: 12-2000 |
Is the device used to shoot or impale people? shoot Arrow? no Gun? yes! - although it would now help to find out which kind of gun Is she showing the crumbling of the apple to a small group of people? a large group? this one How many people are present besides her--1? 2? 3? 4? 5? 6? 7? 8? 9? 10? 10-20? more than 50? more than 100? possibly this number a few hundred? maybe even this a few thousand? I would think unlikely, but the article didn't say even more than that? ditto Is there someone present who will be executed shortly? no Would a human sentenced to death suffer the same fate as the apple? no ie be crumbled? no or is the device used in another to way to execute humans? left to the reader's imagination as how a human executed by a firing squad would die, but it's not relevant for the puzzle scenario to clarify - she uses a gun to 'crumble' an apple but how she does it exactly is now to be found out: believe me, it's not what you would expect  | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 579 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does she shoot at the apple? Does she shoot the apple at something? Is the apple crumbled by some indirect effect of the shooting? | ||
| Senorina_illuminata (Senorina_illuminata)
New member Username: Senorina_illuminata Post Number: 87 Registered: 9-2006 |
is the apple used as a projectile? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3133 Registered: 12-2000 |
Does she shoot at the apple? no Does she shoot the apple at something? no Is the apple crumbled by some indirect effect of the shooting? yes to yope is the apple used as a projectile? no | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 776 Registered: 7-2006 |
Does she shoot something which then falls on the apple? Does she shoot a rope which is holding something over the apple? Does she shoot the apple tree? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 580 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does she actually shoot? If so, does she use only one bullet? More? Does the gun come into physical contact with the apple at all? Could this be done only with a certain type of gun? Is it a pistol? rifle? machine gun? revolver? derringer? shotgun? | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 584 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did she intentionally crumble the apple? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3134 Registered: 12-2000 |
Does she shoot something which then falls on the apple? no Does she shoot a rope which is holding something over the apple? no Does she shoot the apple tree? no Does she actually shoot? yes If so, does she use only one bullet? no More? yes Does the gun come into physical contact with the apple at all? only the bullet Could this be done only with a certain type of gun? i don't know Is it a pistol? rifle? yope machine gun? revolver? derringer? shotgun? Did she intentionally crumble the apple? yes | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 581 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is there something on the apple that is relevant? under the apple? near the apple? surrounding the apple? Does she use just one gun, but fires many shots? Or does she use many guns, but only one shot is fired from each? Are all the shots aimed at the same thing? Are the shots consecutive? simultaneous? Does the apple crumble immediately after the shooting? Does it crumble slowly? Do the bullets pass through air? water? some other liquid? solid? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3135 Registered: 12-2000 |
Is there something on the apple that is relevant? no under the apple? yes near the apple? and therefore yes surrounding the apple? no Does she use just one gun, but fires many shots? no Or does she use many guns, but only one shot is fired from each? yessish, explore Are all the shots aimed at the same thing? no Are the shots consecutive? yes simultaneous? virtually Does the apple crumble immediately after the shooting? yes Does it crumble slowly? no Do the bullets pass through air? yes water? some other liquid? solid? no to rest | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 582 Registered: 3-2006 |
So she's not the only one doing the shooting? Do they shoot at the thing that is under the apple? Is this thing supporting the apple? Is it destroyed by the shooting? Does the apple cease to be on this thing after the shooting? Is it a table or ledge of some sort? Is the apple crumbled by something solid? some acidic liquid? high pressure? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3136 Registered: 12-2000 |
So she's not the only one doing the shooting? no, there's no other person shooting Do they shoot at the thing that is under the apple? no Is this thing supporting the apple? no Is it destroyed by the shooting? no Does the apple cease to be on this thing after the shooting? FA Is it a table or ledge of some sort? no Is the apple crumbled by something solid? yes some acidic liquid? no high pressure? no | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 1881 Registered: 2-2001 |
Temperature of the apple at crumble-time relevant? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3137 Registered: 12-2000 |
Temperature of the apple at crumble-time relevant? no - just regular air temperature, whatever that was at the time btw, you might suddenly remember this one from before, so email any spoylers pls. I can't remember if you contributed last time. | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 588 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did she use an automatic gun? a gun with more than one barrel? a handheld gun? Was this her gun? Was the gun new? Recoil of the gun relevant? Was the apple in her field of vision when she shooted? Was it behind her? on her side? on her head? somewhere else on her? balanced on her gun?? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3138 Registered: 12-2000 |
Did she use an automatic gun? no a gun with more than one barrel? no a handheld gun? yope Was this her gun? yes Was the gun new? not relevant Recoil of the gun relevant? no Was the apple in her field of vision when she shooted? no Was it behind her? on her side? on her head? YES somewhere else on her? balanced on her gun?? | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 590 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was her gun supported on a tripod? on wheels? on something else? Did one of the bullets ricochet off something and hit the apple? Did she do trick shooting? Did she use bullets of the usually lethal kind? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3139 Registered: 12-2000 |
Was her gun supported on a tripod? yope on wheels? no on something else? no Did one of the bullets ricochet off something and hit the apple? no but explore Did she do trick shooting? it wasn't a trick in that it deceived the viewer Did she use bullets of the usually lethal kind? yes | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 592 Registered: 3-2006 |
Can we call her Jane? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3140 Registered: 12-2000 |
Can we call her Jane? if you like, but she wasn't Calamity Jane! | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 594 Registered: 3-2006 |
too bad, I thought I had it...  So... did she shoot horizontally? vertically? at an angle away from the ground? at an angle towards the ground? Did she shoot at something solid? Was the gun supported on the ground? on an item? Was it held in a very rigid position? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3141 Registered: 12-2000 |
So... did she shoot horizontally? yes vertically? at an angle away from the ground? at an angle towards the ground? Did she shoot at something solid? yes Was the gun supported on the ground? no on an item? yope Was it held in a very rigid position? yes to yope | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 595 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was the apple actually hit by one of her own bullets? one that she had just shot? Did she shoot at an item? a person? an animal? a plant? a rock? I the distance between her and her first target relevant? Could she have done this with only one bullet? Did she shoot 2 bullets? more? Did she hit her first bullet with her second? Did she do a really amazing piece of shooting? Could any experienced shooter do this? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3142 Registered: 12-2000 |
Was the apple actually hit by one of her own bullets? no one that she had just shot? no Did she shoot at an item? yes a person? an animal? a plant? a rock? I the distance between her and her first target relevant? yes Could she have done this with only one bullet? no Did she shoot 2 bullets? no more? no Did she hit her first bullet with her second? could you rephrase please Did she do a really amazing piece of shooting? yes Could any experienced shooter do this? I doubt it | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3143 Registered: 12-2000 |
Did she hit her first bullet with her second? could you rephrase please sorry, that's a straight no answer | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 598 Registered: 3-2006 |
So, she used more than 1 bullet? but she shot only 1? The apple was not hit by one of her bullets, but it was hit by a bullet? Is someone else involved in this? Did she place a bullet somewhere? Did she use a second gun? Did she then shoot at the trigger of the second gun? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3144 Registered: 12-2000 |
So, she used more than 1 bullet? but she shot only 1?correct The apple was not hit by one of her bullets, but it was hit by a bullet? correct Is someone else involved in this? no Did she place a bullet somewhere? yes Did she use a second gun? yes Did she then shoot at the trigger of the second gun? YES! Well done! Spoyler to follow with picture | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3145 Registered: 12-2000 |
More details later, but see the picture in my profile | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 599 Registered: 3-2006 |
I guess the chances that you can't try this twice are rather high... Nice puzzle! | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3146 Registered: 12-2000 |
******** SPOILER ********* "It was, I suppose, the apocryphal feat of William Tell that suggested this item of sensation 'business' to the crack rifle-shot Mlle. Diana, who appears in this picture, and recently fulfilled a London engagement. But the analogy is not complete. It is no loving fearful father that takes aim at the 'apple' (in this case an evil-smelling, hollow globe of resin), but just a Winchester rifle of uncertain habits, and addicted to the vagaries and cussednesses common to all fireams. In the first place, the resinous ball is suspended in mid-air by a string, and then the stand is rigged up with its rifle. The latter is then sighted by the expert with scruplulous care, as to cover the pendant globe. After this has been done, Mlle. Diana takes up her position, rifle in hand exactly beneath the 'apple' and blazes away at the trigger of the other gun. Simple, isn't it? The discharges are practically simultaneous, and the lady's dark hair is in most cases instantly powdered with particles of the shattered ball of resin. I say 'in most cases' advisedly, because it sometimes happens that the bullet passes over or at the side of the 'apple' and on one occasion the rifle-ball actually passed between the globe and Mlle.Diana's scalp, the weapon having been aimed a shade too low. 'I must say', remarked the lady rifle-shot, 'that it wants a lot of nerve to face and fire at that rifle. you see, the slightest deviation in sighting may be fatal; and then, again, the cartridge may be a poor one, causing the rifle to hang fire. In such cases the first thing to be done, of course, it to get out of the line of fire without a moment's delay, for the rifle may go off immediately on its own account, as, indeed, it has done more than once. So there you have it - from my copy of the Strand magazine compilation, 1896. These books make for the most fascinating reading - if only for the fact that Health and Safety Measures didn't stop the brave or foolhardy from having whatever fun they wanted! | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3147 Registered: 12-2000 |
If you want to see a larger version of the picture, I can email it. | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 198 Registered: 9-2006 |
Wow! Those Strand magazines must be incredible sources of lateral puzzles! |
