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Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 12:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Joe returns home to find his wife missing and a dead man in his bedroom next to an off-the-hook-telephone.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 10:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the wife know about the dead man?

Was this a murder? Suicide? Natural causes?

Was a phone call received in the house, or was the phone knocked off the hook by the dead man?

Does Joe know the dead man?

Are there any clues to her whereabouts? Did she leave a note?

If a phone call was received, did it have anything to do with the man's death?

If the phone call had something to do with the man's death, does the wife's disappearance have anything to do with the man's death?
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 5:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the wife know about the dead man? Yes

Was this a murder? Yes Suicide? Natural causes?

Was a phone call received in the house Yes, or was the phone knocked off the hook by the dead man?

Does Joe know the dead man? No

Are there any clues to her whereabouts? Did she leave a note? No to both

If a phone call was received, did it have anything to do with the man's death? The two are related, but the call itself did not concern his death

If the phone call had something to do with the man's death, does the wife's disappearance have anything to do with the man's death? Yes
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Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 7:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Joe's wife kill the dead man? Would she have killed him if the phone did not ring? Did the wife disappear to escape b/c she killed the dead man? Was she kidnaped? Did the wife kill him with the phone (e.g. strangling)? Is there anyone else involved besides Joe, his wife and the dead man? Is it important to find out who made the call? Were the wife and the dead man having an affair?
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
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Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 2:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Joe's wife kill the dead man? Yes Would she have killed him if the phone did not ring? No Did the wife disappear to escape b/c she killed the dead man? No Was she kidnaped? No Did the wife kill him with the phone (e.g. strangling)? Irr Is there anyone else involved besides Joe, his wife and the dead man? No Is it important to find out who made the call? Yes Were the wife and the dead man having an affair? Yes
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Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 5:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it Joe who made the call?
Was it the man who received the call before his death? or Joe's wife?
Did she kill the man because he took the call (don't take the call or I'll kill you?)?
Is the conversation made by phone relevant?
Is there anything more to be found out about the affair? about the murder?
Did the woman escape from her man?
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
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Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 5:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it Joe who made the call? Yes
Was it the man who received the call before his death? or Joe's wife? the man answered the call, but the call was for Joe's wife
Did she kill the man because he took the call (don't take the call or I'll kill you?)? Yes, but no to the example
Is the conversation made by phone relevant? No
Is there anything more to be found out about the affair? No about the murder? Yes
Did the woman escape from her man? Noish
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
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Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 5:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

CORRECTION: The conversation is yopeishly relevant.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 5:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Joe find out that his woman had an affair during the call? Did he accuse her? Did he return to his house right after the call?
Did the murder happen during the call? after?
Was Joe aware of the murder before coming home? Did he want his wife to kill the man?
Did the she leave the off-the-hook-telephone like it was on purpose?
Is the method of murder relevant?
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
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Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 7:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Joe find out that his woman had an affair during the call? Yes Did he accuse her? No Did he return to his house right after the call? 1/2 - 1 hour
Did the murder happen during the call? after? after
Was Joe aware of the murder before coming home? No Did he want his wife to kill the man? Irr
Did the she leave the off-the-hook-telephone like it was on purpose? Could you run that by me again?
Is the method of murder relevant? No
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 8:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the woman not hang up on purpose?
Was the connexion still going on when Joe came home?
Is the cost of the call relevant?
Did Joe do anything relevant after the call (apart from going home)?
Was there a fight between the woman and her lover?
Is the place where the woman went relevant?
Is it relevant that the murder happened in the bed room?
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
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Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 9:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the woman not hang up on purpose? No
Was the connexion still going on when Joe came home? No
Is the cost of the call relevant? No
Did Joe do anything relevant after the call (apart from going home)? No
Was there a fight between the woman and her lover? Yes
Is the place where the woman went relevant? No
Is it relevant that the murder happened in the bed room? Noish
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
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Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 9:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By the by, "en francais" (at the bottom of the puzzle page) is rather lonely...
Everything (Everything)
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Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 8:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh a nice classic dead man puzzle. I like it.
Did the wife kill the man because she wanted to end the affair? Was she aware her husband was coming home? Was she possibly trying to save or protect her husband?
Was the murder premeditated and cold-blooded? Was it in the heat of the moment? Was it self defense? Did she kill him during the phone conversation? Right after? A few minutes after Relevant?
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
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Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 12:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh a nice classic dead man puzzle. I like it. Me too, and welcome to the forum!
Did the wife kill the man because she wanted to end the affair? No Was she aware her husband was coming home? Yes Was she possibly trying to save or protect her husband? No
Was the murder premeditated and cold-blooded? No Was it in the heat of the moment? Yes Was it self defense? No Did she kill him during the phone conversation? Right after? This A few minutes after Relevant? Yope
Everything (Everything)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 3:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she simply kill him to stop her husband from discovering the affair? Did she kill in frustration because the affair had been revealed?
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 4:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she simply kill him to stop her husband from discovering the affair? No Did she kill in frustration because the affair had been revealed
Yes, explore this
Cookie (Cookie)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 9:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she kill her lover to hide her affair? So she could tell her husband that her lover was a burglar? Or similar?
Everything (Everything)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 1:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the lover say something that angered her enough to kill? If so, did he say it to her? To the husband? To himself?
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Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 3:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she kill her lover to hide her affair? So she could tell her husband that her lover was a burglar? Or similar? None of these, sorry

Did the lover say something that angered her enough to kill? NO .. with a teeny tiny misleading ish If so, did he say it to her? To the husband? This ... Ditto To himself?
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the wife blind and killed the man because she thought he was her husband and only found out otherwise because of the call?
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Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 9:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the wife blind and killed the man because she thought he was her husband and only found out otherwise because of the call? No, but good thought
Everything (Everything)
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 12:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he fail to say something to the husband? Was it not what he said, but how he said it? Was she angry about some other aspect of the phone call? The fact that he answered, perhaps, or when he hung up?
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 2:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he fail to say something to the husband? No Was it not what he said, but how he said it? FA Was she angry about some other aspect of the phone call? Ehh, rephrase perhaps? The fact that he answered This, perhaps, or when he hung up?
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 2:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

NOTE: I'm afraid I may have let a false assumption start. The FA relates to the conversation.
Everything (Everything)
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 2:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ah, that's my fault then. Did the lover say anything at all? Did the husband?
Stinkycheese (Stinkycheese)
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 2:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Neither said anything.
Everything (Everything)
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 11:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ah, so the lover just picked up the phone, and the husband hung up on him? If only the wife was home, would she not answer any phone calls? Would she just not answer calls from her husband? And since the phone was answered, the husband knew she wasn't alone? And she killed the lover for expsing the affair?
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Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 2:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ah, so the lover just picked up the phone, and the husband hung up on him? Yes If only the wife was home, would she not answer any phone calls? Would she just not answer calls from her husband? Can you rephrase the previous two?And since the phone was answered, the husband knew she wasn't alone? And she killed the lover for expsing the affair? YES, that was the SPOILER

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