| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2038 Registered: 8-2001 |
As soon as the students were told to start meditating, Electra yelled, "Help! Help!" She was in no danger, but her response was reasonable. How come?? | ||
| Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2007 |
Meditation as in actual Zen meditation/Zazen or something similar? Meditating as thinking deeply about something? Electra is one of the students? Are the students members of a class? Class taught by a teacher? School class? Some sort of yoga class or whatever some people come up with? Were they told to start meditating by the class leader (teacher) ? All students are in the same age group? Kids? Teens? Twens? Older? I actually know a lady named Electra, I've just been to a concert of hers and her band a few hours ago! | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 897 Registered: 6-2005 |
By meditating... did somebody instruct them to "Think" about something? But they used the phrase to meditate upon it? Was Electra testing a theory? One that was proposed in class? Was she testing to see if anybody jumped up to come to her aid? Was she testing to see if everybody would remain seated rather than act? Had they just been briefed on the concept of the Bystander effect (I think that's what it's called - where they've shown that the more people there are observing a person in need, the less likely somebody is to help them because they all assume somebody else will take care of it)? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2041 Registered: 8-2001 |
Zephyr14 (Zephyr14) New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 12:42 am: Meditation as in actual Zen meditation/Zazen or something similar? yes Meditating as thinking deeply about something? no Electra is one of the students? yes Are the students members of a class? yes Class taught by a teacher? yes School class? possibly Some sort of yoga class or whatever some people come up with? possibly Were they told to start meditating by the class leader (teacher) ? yes All students are in the same age group? irrel Kids? Teens? Twens? Older? I actually know a lady named Electra, I've just been to a concert of hers and her band a few hours ago! Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 897 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 2:13 am: By meditating... did somebody instruct them to "Think" about something? no But they used the phrase to meditate upon it? no Was Electra testing a theory? no One that was proposed in class? no Was she testing to see if anybody jumped up to come to her aid? no Was she testing to see if everybody would remain seated rather than act? Had they just been briefed on the concept of the Bystander effect (I think that's what it's called - where they've shown that the more people there are observing a person in need, the less likely somebody is to help them because they all assume somebody else will take care of it)? no | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 772 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did Electra try to meditate? When she yelled "Help", had the other students already started meditating? Did she understand what meditating was? Did she mishear the teacher? Misunderstand him/her? She was in no danger, but did she think she was in danger? Was she saying "help" to the students? the teacher? to all of them? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 213 Registered: 1-2007 |
Were they lying down, standing, sitting? Sitting in any yoga position? Eyes open or close? Was it silent? Someone saying something? Any new age music in the background? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2046 Registered: 8-2001 |
Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack) New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 772 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 2:12 am: Did Electra try to meditate?yope When she yelled "Help", had the other students already started meditating? yes Did she understand what meditating was? yes Did she mishear the teacher? no Misunderstand him/her? no She was in no danger, but did she think she was in danger? no Was she saying "help" to the students? yes the teacher? yes to all of them? yes Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 213 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 9:31 am: Were they lying down, standing, sitting? Sitting in any yoga position? could be any, but sitting is most likely Eyes open or close? Was it silent?possibly Someone saying something?no Any new age music in the background?possibly | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 783 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was she actually asking for their help? Had she been instructed earlier to shout "help" under a certain circumstance? Were the students and teacher surprised? frightened? angry? amused? Did she do it as a joke? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 215 Registered: 1-2007 |
"Help" in this case does it mean: - I need assistance - I need instructions - I have a problem - I am in danger - it is her mantra Does it mean something totally different, and you are just misleading us? Did anyone else say "Help, help"? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 788 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is "Help" the name of one of her friends? Her teacher? her pet? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 422 Registered: 3-2006 |
Were the students asked to meditate in the style of the Maharishi Yogi and shout out the title of their favourite Beatles song? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 233 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did she fall asleep while meditating? Is she sane? Does she have any phobia? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2049 Registered: 8-2001 |
Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack) New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 783 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 6:41 am: Was she actually asking for their help? no Had she been instructed earlier to shout "help" under a certain circumstance? no Were the students and teacher surprised? yes frightened? possibly angry? ditto amused? ditto Did she do it as a joke? yesish Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 215 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 11:47 am: "Help" in this case does it mean: - I need assistanceyes - I need instructions no - I have a problem yes - I am in danger yes--best construal - it is her mantra no Does it mean something totally different, and you are just misleading us? no Did anyone else say "Help, help"? possibly | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2050 Registered: 8-2001 |
Woodworm (Woodworm) New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 422 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Monday, January 15, 2007 - 5:14 pm: Were the students asked to meditate in the style of the Maharishi Yogi and shout out the title of their favourite Beatles song? No. I've never mediatated, but I doubt the instructions would include shouting Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 233 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, January 15, 2007 - 5:38 pm: Did she fall asleep while meditating? no Is she sane? yes Does she have any phobia? no | ||
| Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 44 Registered: 1-2007 |
Just making sure: She was not in danger, but did she need help? For example one might need help finding her misplaced meditation cushion... she wouldn't be in danger. | ||
| Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 45 Registered: 1-2007 |
sorry, I was typing while you posted | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2053 Registered: 8-2001 |
Zephyr14 (Zephyr14) New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 44 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:39 pm: Just making sure: She was not in danger, but did she need help? No, she didnn't REALLY need help!! But her exclamation was reasaonable? How Come??For example one might need help finding her misplaced meditation cushion... she wouldn't be in danger. That's not it | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 236 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was their an instructor present? If so, was he/she also meditating? deeply? or was he/she easily available for any questions? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 99 Registered: 9-2003 |
does she have any sort of medical condition? did she think something was happening to her? did she manage to meditate at all? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2055 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 236 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, January 15, 2007 - 11:47 pm: Was their an instructor present? yes If so, was he/she also meditating? irrel deeply? probably not or was he/she easily available for any questions? yes ~damia~ (~damia~) New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 99 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 2:41 pm: does she have any sort of medical condition? irrel did she think something was happening to her? nothing relevantdid she manage to meditate at all? irrel | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 269 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is it her first time meditating? Is she just being clever about something the instructor or anyone else said earlier? Such as "meditating is totally safe"? Is she yelling because she wants to stop meditating? to do something else instead? Does she continue meditating after yelling? Is it obvious for everyone that it is Electra who is yelling? Does any participant have a disability? Is it happening outside or inside? relevant? | ||
| Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 60 Registered: 1-2007 |
Koans relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2062 Registered: 8-2001 |
New member Post Number: 269 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 6:33 pm: Is it her first time meditating? irrel Is she just being clever about something the instructor or anyone else said earlier? yes--the instructor Such as "meditating is totally safe"? Not. that. She's actually being much cleverer (I think) Is she yelling because she wants to stop meditating? no to do something else instead? no Does she continue meditating after yelling? irrel Is it obvious for everyone that it is Electra who is yelling? irrel Does any participant have a disability? irrel Is it happening outside or inside? irrel relevant? no Zephyr14 (Zephyr14) New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 60 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 12:30 am: Koans relevant? no | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 270 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is it a response to what the instructor is saying about: - the technique used to get into a meditative state - the sensation you would possibly feel (sinking, falling) - contact with the spiritual world - relaxing and concentrating on a single thing - clearing your mind of all thoughts - altered state of consciousness - getting in touch with hidden memories | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 271 Registered: 1-2007 |
- that it takes years to perfect the art of meditation | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2065 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 270 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 9:00 pm: Is it a response to what the instructor is saying about: - the technique used to get into a meditative state yes - the sensation you would possibly feel (sinking, falling) no - contact with the spiritual world no - relaxing and concentrating on a single thing yes - clearing your mind of all thoughts no - altered state of consciousness noish - getting in touch with hidden memories no Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 271 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 9:02 pm: - that it takes years to perfect the art of meditation no | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 273 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the single thing something she finds scary? If so, is it a situation? an animal? an object? meditation? school? a person? the instructor? home work? her parents? how she looks while meditating? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2066 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 273 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 11:11 pm: Is the single thing something she finds scary? yes If so, is it a situation? yes an animal? no an object? no meditation? no school? no a person? no the instructor? no home work? no her parents? no how she looks while meditating? no | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 280 Registered: 1-2007 |
Has the situation anything to do with meditation? Her personal life? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2067 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 280 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 12:03 am: Has the situation anything to do with meditation? yesish Her personal life? noish | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 288 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is it about closing her eyes? Breathing? Slowing the heartbeat? Less adrenaline in the blood? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2070 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 288 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 6:21 pm: Is it about closing her eyes? Breathing? Slowing the heartbeat? Less adrenaline in the blood? none of the above | ||
| Huntinggirl (Huntinggirl)
New member Username: Huntinggirl Post Number: 16 Registered: 1-2006 |
sitting cross-legged in that very uncomfortable way? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 308 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did the instructor tell when to concentrate on something specific, or was up to anyone to make it up? Is it a "imagine yourself in this (relaxing) scenery" situation? Like in a forest, on a beach, next to a lake, on a hill? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2071 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 308 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 6:12 pm: Did the instructor tell when to concentrate on something specific yes, or was up to anyone to make it up? yes Is it a "imagine yourself in this (relaxing) scenery" situation? Like in a forest, on a beach, next to a lake, on a hill? yes, but not any of those. Find out what the instructor said!! | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 898 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did the instructor have them picture themselves... Under water? In a small enclosed space? In a cave? On top of a mountain? Someplace high? Someplace enclosed? Someplace out in the open? In picturing herself in that location, did it trigger an acute phobia that Electra had? Was the realism too much for her? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2072 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 898 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 5:40 am: Did the instructor have them picture themselves... Under water? no In a small enclosed space? no In a cave? no On top of a mountain? no Someplace high? no Someplace enclosed? no Someplace out in the open? yes In picturing herself in that location, did it trigger an acute phobia that Electra had? no Was the realism too much for her? no | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 314 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the situation that you are alone in the scenery? If so, is it a scenery where you actually don't want to be left alone? Like on a desert island? some place remote? where people would be hostile? because you have no money and no passport to go back home? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2076 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 314 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 8:07 pm: Is the situation that you are alone in the scenery? yes If so, is it a scenery where you actually don't want to be left alone? yes Like on a desert island? not that some place remote? where people would be hostile? no because you have no money and no passport to go back home? no | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 317 Registered: 1-2007 |
Does it start as a simple situation, such as picture where you (Electra) are alone in this scenery where you can see, hear, feel or smell this and that? Is it enough for Electra to start yelling? Or, is the scenery and the meditative (instruction or information?) something that together would be dangerous? For instance: "You are alone in a field of flowers - Take a deep breath... (bad if you have allergies)" "You are floating on clouds/water/etc - Your body feels heavier and heavier..." | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2085 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 317 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 11:11 am: Does it start as a simple situation, such as picture where you (Electra) are alone in this scenery where you can see, hear, feel or smell this and that? yes Is it enough for Electra to start yelling? yes Or, is the scenery and the meditative (instruction or information?) something that together would be dangerous? For instance: "You are alone in a field of flowers - Take a deep breath... (bad if you have allergies)" "You are floating on clouds/water/etc - Your body feels heavier and heavier..." no | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 720 Registered: 7-2001 |
so does the teacher get them to imagine a scenario? and put themselves in it? and the scenario had some sort of element that electra would find frightening if it were real life? such as 'imagine yourself floating in a pool of water' and Electra cries 'help, help' because she can't swim? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2093 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 720 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 8:55 pm: so does the teacher get them to imagine a scenario? yes and put themselves in it? yes and the scenario had some sort of element that electra would find frightening if it were real life? yes such as 'imagine yourself floating in a pool of water' and Electra cries 'help, help' because she can't swim? not that. Ins some ways, you're ORT (on the right track), but there's a crucial element you haven't gotten at yet | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 568 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is Electra trying to demonstrate that nowhere is completely "safe" or "peaceful" or whatever the instructor has said by deliberately thinking of a possible threat or fear inducing happening? Is it to do with being alone? Would it work in any solitary situation? Is Elena's health relevant? Is she dependent on others in some way? Is she blind? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 326 Registered: 1-2007 |
The situation, is it one could happen anywhere? Or does the situation include/omit any of: a certain setting, location, gender specifik, altitude, speed, elements, culture, people, colors, animals, topology, sexual orientation, climate, objects, food/water/oxygen, vegetation, buildings, transportation, darkness, personality, money, freedom, hostility, confinement, shelter, weather, history, politics, health, clothing, social status, accessibility, reputation, home, family, friends, work/school? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2096 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sunshine (Sunshine) New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 568 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 8:43 am: Is Electra trying to demonstrate that nowhere is completely "safe" or "peaceful" or whatever the instructor has said by deliberately thinking of a possible threat or fear inducing happening? no Is it to do with being alone? yesish Would it work in any solitary situation? no Is Elena's health relevant? no Is she dependent on others in some way? no more than we all are Is she blind?irrel Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 326 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 1:19 pm: The situation, is it one could happen anywhere? no Or does the situation include/omit any of: a certain setting, location, gender specifik, altitude, speed, elements {yes}, culture, people, colors, animals, topology yes, sexual orientation, climate, objects, food/water yes/oxygen, vegetation, buildings, transportation, darkness, personality, money, freedom, hostility, confinement, shelter, weather, history, politics, health, clothing, social status, accessibility, reputation, home, family, friends, work/school? I've written 'yes' where appropriate. For all the others, the answer is no | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 332 Registered: 1-2007 |
Does she picture herself alone in the middle of a desert, and she realises that she did not bring any water? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2099 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 332 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 7:50 pm: Does she picture herself alone in the middle of a desert, and she realises that she did not bring any water? no. HINT: What makes this funny is that the instructor gave a poorly worded instruction & Electra took it literally | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 343 Registered: 1-2007 |
is it water that you drink? swim inside? is the element fire, water, wind or soil? Is the landscape flat, with hills, mountains? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2109 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 343 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 9:04 pm: is it water that you drink? no swim inside? yope is the element fire no, water yes, wind mau also be involved or soil no? Is the landscape flat yope, with hills no, mountains no? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 346 Registered: 1-2007 |
rain? waterfall? the sea? lake? snow? weather important? Does the landscape have holes? canyons? craters? ravines? steep slopes? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2112 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 346 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 9:59 pm: rain? no waterfall? no the sea? yesish (ocean} lake? no snow? no weather important? noish Does the landscape have holes? no--it's an ocean (see above) canyons? no craters? no ravines? no steep slopes?no | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 348 Registered: 1-2007 |
is she in the middle of the ocean or standing next to it? Big waves? Does she need to be rescued? Is she swimming? On a boat/raft? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2113 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 348 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 10:16 pm: is she in the middle of the ocean yes or standing next to it no Big waves? not necessarily Does she need to be rescued? yes Is she swimming? no On a boat yes/raft no? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 351 Registered: 1-2007 |
Are other boats passing by? A plane overhead? Anything or anyone else that may rescue her? Sharks in the water? Or just her, the boat and the ocean? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2116 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 351 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Sunday, February 04, 2007 - 10:35 pm: Are other boats passing by? no A plane overhead? no Anything or anyone else that may rescue her? no Sharks in the water? no Or just her, the boat and the ocean? yes | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 144 Registered: 9-2003 |
ok so he said something like imagine you're all alone on the ocean, meaning it to be soothing? but she was afraid of the ocean? and immediately starting thinking she was in danger there? did she imagine the ocean was rough? or calm? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 353 Registered: 1-2007 |
or is it about drifting away? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2119 Registered: 8-2001 |
~damia~ (~damia~) New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 144 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 10:01 am: ok so he said something like imagine you're all alone on the ocean, meaning it to be soothing? yes but she was afraid of the ocean? yes and immediately starting thinking she was in danger there? yes did she imagine the ocean was rough? irrel or calm? irrel Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 353 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 3:39 pm: or is it about drifting away? yope You'vre gotten very close, but HINT:Elerctra's reaction was very reasonab;le & indicated that the instructor hadn't thought carefully before giving the instruction | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 370 Registered: 1-2007 |
Are the students supposed to respond to a question from the instructor? Such as the first thing that comes to mind in this scenery? or to express a feeling? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 854 Registered: 3-2006 |
Maybe he said something like, "Feel and behave as if you really are there.."? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 374 Registered: 1-2007 |
In the meditation is she supposed to be herself or someone/something else? Does she ever plunge into the water? Does time slow down or stop? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 993 Registered: 6-2006 |
Does the instructor say to change poses to a position that would make her drown were she in the water? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2122 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 370 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 1:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are the students supposed to respond to a question from the instructor? no Such as the first thing that comes to mind in this scenery? or to express a feeling? no Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack) New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 854 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 3:50 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Maybe he said something like, "Feel and behave as if you really are there.."? no Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 374 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 5:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) In the meditation is she supposed to be herself or someone/something else? herself Does she ever plunge into the water? no Does time slow down or stop? no Beccaann (Beccaann) New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 993 Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 7:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does the instructor say to change poses to a position that would make her drown were she in the water? no | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 148 Registered: 9-2003 |
just to clarify, does she scream only because she is scared of the ocean and drifting away? or does the instructor say something else that encourages her? | ||
| Emptyhead (Emptyhead)
New member Username: Emptyhead Post Number: 48 Registered: 6-2006 |
When Electra asked for help - Is she just screaming? Or actually saying the word - Help? Is she saying this in a language others can understand - I mean she is not saying in Sanskrit in a class full of Russians? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2123 Registered: 8-2001 |
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 148 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 9:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) just to clarify, does she scream only because she is scared of the ocean and drifting away? yes or does the instructor say something else that encourages her? no Emptyhead (Emptyhead) New member Username: Emptyhead Post Number: 48 Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Wednesday, February 07, 2007 - 2:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) When Electra asked for help - Is she just screaming? possibly Or actually saying the word - Help? more likely Is she saying this in a language others can understand - I mean she is not saying in Sanskrit in a class full of Russians? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2124 Registered: 8-2001 |
Actually, I think this is ready for a ****SPOILER************ Electra's mediatation instructor was stupid enough to say, "Close your eyes & imagine you're in a canoe in the middle of the ocean," So Electra started screaming, "Help! Help!" "What's the mayter?" asked the instructor. "Don't you mean a lake?" Electra asked gently. (Adapted from a real incident.) A new puzzle awaits you--guess where. |
