| Author | Message | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 524 Registered: 3-2006 |
Timothy broke the rules. Though he was caught, he got away with it. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 705 Registered: 8-2006 |
I think i have the answer to this one... Rulebreakers relevant?? I'm guessing Timothy is one of the people who posted a rulebreaker | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 528 Registered: 3-2006 |
I think i have the answer to this one... Rulebreakers relevant?? no I'm guessing Timothy is one of the people who posted a rulebreaker no | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2003 |
Is Timothy human? adult? male? The rules; law? games? house rules? other type of rules? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 533 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is Timothy human? adult? male? yes to all The rules; law? this games? house rules? other type of rules? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 42 Registered: 11-2003 |
So he broke the law. Did he do something that most of us would consider a crime? Or did he break an outdated law that no one cares about any longer? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 535 Registered: 3-2006 |
So he broke the law. yes Did he do something that most of us would consider a crime? yes, though I'm not technically sure what counts as a "crime" Or did he break an outdated law that no one cares about any longer? not this | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 45 Registered: 11-2003 |
Would it be a good idea to determine the crime he committed? Or could it be any type of crime? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 537 Registered: 3-2006 |
Would it be a good idea to determine the crime he committed? yes Or could it be any type of crime? no, it is one specific thing | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 264 Registered: 10-2003 |
Murder? Robbery? Assault? Theft? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 542 Registered: 3-2006 |
Murder? Robbery? Assault? Theft? not these | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 650 Registered: 9-2006 |
Did the crime hurt a specific person physically? hurt some persons physically? Is there one person that was a target of his crime? | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 651 Registered: 9-2006 |
Did David get away because of the nature of the crime? because of who he was? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 47 Registered: 11-2003 |
Kidnapping? Speeding? Fraud? Burglary? Forgery? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 544 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did the crime hurt a specific person physically? no hurt some persons physically? no Is there one person that was a target of his crime? no Did David ? get away because of the nature of the crime? not really because of who he was? no Kidnapping? Speeding? no, but ... Fraud? Burglary? Forgery? no to rest | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 51 Registered: 11-2003 |
OK, the but seems to indicate that the crime is car related? Joyriding? Driving too slow on a motorway (isn't that a criminal offence???)? Ignoring a road sign? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 546 Registered: 3-2006 |
OK, the but seems to indicate that the crime is car related? yes Joyriding? no Driving too slow on a motorway (isn't that a criminal offence???)? in some places I think it is, but this isn't it Ignoring a road sign? yopish | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 54 Registered: 11-2003 |
Did she ignore something? If so, a sign other than road sign? some road marking? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 55 Registered: 11-2003 |
Sorry, typo... Should be 'Did HE ...' | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 550 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did she ignore something? If so, a sign other than road sign? some road marking? no, he didn't really ignore anything as such | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 59 Registered: 11-2003 |
But it's car related. Does it have something to do with the car itself? like missing headlight? Did Timothy have a driving license? Did he misinterpret a road sign? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 552 Registered: 3-2006 |
But it's car related. yes Does it have something to do with the car itself? no like missing headlight? no Did Timothy have a driving license? yes Did he misinterpret a road sign? not really | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 61 Registered: 11-2003 |
Is the rule he broke related to a road sign? or road markings? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 554 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the rule he broke related to a road sign? or road markings? both are relevant | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 65 Registered: 11-2003 |
OK, did he not understand the road sign? road marking? Was the road sign? road marking in a language he understood? Was he caught by police? someone else? Was there something about him that made it acceptabel to break the rules? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 558 Registered: 3-2006 |
OK, did he not understand the road sign? no, he understood it road marking? he understood this too Was the road sign? road marking in a language he understood? the road sign was in his first language, yes: the marking was a marking, not in any language Was he caught by police? someone else? this Was there something about him that made it acceptabel to break the rules? nope: he is just a normal motorist | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 67 Registered: 11-2003 |
Caught by someone who didn't care about Timothy breaking the rules? Like a friend? A colleague? Or maybe caught by someone who didn't want to report him for other reasons? Like a criminal? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 560 Registered: 3-2006 |
Caught by someone who didn't care about Timothy breaking the rules? no Like a friend? A colleague? not this Or maybe caught by someone who didn't want to report him for other reasons? Like a criminal? not this either, I'm afraid | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 70 Registered: 11-2003 |
Was he caught by someone in authority? Like a security guard or similar? Did the person that caught him, report it to the police? If he/she did, was there something about him? or the circumstances that invalidated the case? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 563 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was he caught by someone in authority? yes Like a security guard or similar? similar Did the person that caught him, report it to the police? no If he/she did, was there something about him? or the circumstances that invalidated the case? the case didn't go to the police, but you are right that something about the circumstances invalidated the case: this is the crux of the puzzle | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1119 Registered: 6-2006 |
Did he see the sign at all? Was the sign in place where it should have been? Or was it a situation like a one way sign was turned so that it didn't indicate the correct direction? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 565 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did he see the sign at all? yes Was the sign in place where it should have been? yes Or was it a situation like a one way sign was turned so that it didn't indicate the correct direction? no | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1120 Registered: 6-2006 |
Were the sign and the road marking contradictory? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 566 Registered: 3-2006 |
Were the sign and the road marking contradictory? no | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2003 |
was the circumstances that invalidated the case something to to with the road sign and markings? or something to with Timothy himself? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 307 Registered: 9-2003 |
I think I may know this one - is it one thats been in the news recently, at least in the uk? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 568 Registered: 3-2006 |
was the circumstances that invalidated the case something to to with the road sign and markings? not directly or something to with Timothy himself? not this I think I may know this one - is it one thats been in the news recently, at least in the uk? no: it's not really newsworthy, and it happened to me a few years ago | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 121 Registered: 11-2003 |
Just for clarification - did he/you break a rule that concerned a road sign AND a road marking at the same time? Or are we talking two different incidents of rulebreaking? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 570 Registered: 3-2006 |
Just for clarification - did he/you break a rule that concerned a road sign AND a road marking at the same time? yes, this Or are we talking two different incidents of rulebreaking? rather than this | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 132 Registered: 11-2003 |
Is it important what sign it is? what road marking it is? does the road sign and road marking say the same? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 572 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it important what sign it is? yes road marking it is? yes road sign and road marking say the same? well, the sign refers to the marked part of the road | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 143 Registered: 11-2003 |
think i will try for the sign first Is it a warning sign of some sort? a sign that prohibits you from doing something? a speed limit sign? a sign just meant for information? | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 622 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was this a parking offence? Were the yellow lines obscured by something? Snow? Did you not look for the road sign limiting parking because you didn't see the yellow lines? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 551 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was it a taxi zone? Did someone get inside the car "catching a cab" | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 574 Registered: 3-2006 |
think i will try for the sign first ok Is it a warning sign of some sort? not really a sign that prohibits you from doing something? this is closest a speed limit sign? no a sign just meant for information? this too Was this a parking offence? yes Were the yellow lines obscured by something? fa Snow? no, it was a fine day Did you not look for the road sign limiting parking because you didn't see the yellow lines? no Was it a taxi zone? no Did someone get inside the car "catching a cab" no | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 167 Registered: 11-2003 |
Ok, so parking offence. Did he park a car where he shouldn't? or did it seem that he was going to? Disable parking?, family parking? or expectant mother parking relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 576 Registered: 3-2006 |
Ok, so parking offence. yep Did he park a car where he shouldn't? yope or did it seem that he was going to? no Disable parking?, family parking? or expectant mother parking relevant? none of these | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 344 Registered: 9-2003 |
was it a red route? did you stop on it? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 175 Registered: 11-2003 |
About that yope. Did he PARK a car somewhere at all? Any of these relevant bus lane? barred areas for stopping? enters/exits from parking sites/parking houses? emergency exits? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 577 Registered: 3-2006 |
was it a red route? no did you stop on it? no About that yope. Did he PARK a car somewhere at all? yes Any of these relevant bus lane? no barred areas for stopping? Mmmm ...not 100% sure what you mean: there are markings on the road that pertain to parking. Not those zigzag things, though. enters/exits from parking sites/parking houses? emergency exits? none of these | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 185 Registered: 11-2003 |
Double yellow (or whatever colour they are where you live, lol) lines that prohibits parking along the road? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1151 Registered: 6-2006 |
Was the place where he parked a marked parking space? In a lot? Along a roadside? Did the sign declare parking illegal in that place? Designated for certain people/a certain person? Designated for certain types of vehicles? Certain purposes? Relevant whether it is a metered parking place? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 579 Registered: 3-2006 |
Double yellow (or whatever colour they are where you live, lol) lines that prohibits parking along the road? no Was the place where he parked a marked parking space? yes In a lot? no Along a roadside? yes Did the sign declare parking illegal in that place? yope Designated for certain people/a certain person? nope Designated for certain types of vehicles? no Certain purposes? no Relevant whether it is a metered parking place? yes: it isn't metered Sorry for the delay: I've been away this weekend. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 203 Registered: 11-2003 |
Does it allow parking only between certain hours of the day? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 580 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does it allow parking only between certain hours of the day? no-ish | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1160 Registered: 6-2006 |
Does it disallow parking at a specific time...like where you can't park in certain spaces on Tuesdays between 2am and 5am for street cleaning? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 581 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does it disallow parking at a specific time...like where you can't park in certain spaces on Tuesdays between 2am and 5am for street cleaning? no, not this, but not a million miles from the ballpark | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 358 Registered: 9-2003 |
are you only allowed to park there for a certain length of time? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 587 Registered: 3-2006 |
are you only allowed to park there for a certain length of time? yes | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 365 Registered: 9-2003 |
did you park there for more than the alloted(sp?) time? was that time less than half an hour? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 590 Registered: 3-2006 |
did you park there for more than the alloted(sp?) time? yes was that time less than half an hour? no | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 211 Registered: 11-2003 |
Is it relevant how much longer you were parked there? or why you were parked longer than was allowed? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 595 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it relevant how much longer you were parked there? yes or why you were parked longer than was allowed? not really | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 68 Registered: 4-2007 |
Were you only parked there for a tiny amount over the set time? Could the people who caught you prove you were there for longer than the set time? Did you have a parking ticket on your car (the kind that says what time you arrived, so wardens can come around and check if you've overstayed)? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 598 Registered: 3-2006 |
Were you only parked there for a tiny amount over the set time? no: I doubt if I would have got away with that Could the people who caught you prove you were there for longer than the set time? very yopish: this is the lateral part you might want to explore Did you have a parking ticket on your car (the kind that says what time you arrived, so wardens can come around and check if you've overstayed)? nope | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 69 Registered: 4-2007 |
This is just a wild guess-was it anything like you stayed there for a full 24 hours over the time limit so the timer (or whatever they used to catch you) reset? Was there some reason why you were allowed to stay there longer? Is it relevant where this parking spot is? Regardless of whether they could prove it or not, was the person/people who caught you aware that you had stayed over the limit? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 599 Registered: 3-2006 |
This is just a wild guess-was it anything like you stayed there for a full 24 hours over the time limit so the timer (or whatever they used to catch you) reset? no: it all happened on the same day Was there some reason why you were allowed to stay there longer? No: in fact it was a bank holiday, and I thought it would be okay. It wasn't, and I found a nasty ticket on the windscreen. I thought about using the bank holiday as an excuse, but came up with this other idea instead. Is it relevant where this parking spot is? no Regardless of whether they could prove it or not, was the person/people who caught you aware that you had stayed over the limit? yes | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 70 Registered: 4-2007 |
So how far were you over the time limit: 10 mins? Half an hour? An hour? More? [insert list of times if its not one of those] Did your excuse involve telling any lies? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 600 Registered: 3-2006 |
So how far were you over the time limit: 10 mins? Half an hour? An hour? More? this one [insert list of times if its not one of those] Did your excuse involve telling any lies? oh yes | ||
| Logician (Logician)
New member Username: Logician Post Number: 319 Registered: 6-2003 |
Did you claim that you misread the time due to 24-hour confusions? (e.g. confusing 15:00 with 5pm) | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 371 Registered: 9-2003 |
were you 2 hours over? 3? 4? 5? more? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 602 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did you claim that you misread the time due to 24-hour confusions? (e.g. confusing 15:00 with 5pm) no, not this were you 2 hours over? 3? let's say 3 4? 5? more? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 218 Registered: 11-2003 |
Did you park along a road? Or is this outside a supermarket/shopping centre (which usually would have that sort of time limits)? Did you come up with an excuse for parking too long? If so, someone being sick? had an accident? your clock had stopped? other? Or did you tell them you had not been parking that long, that you had gone and returned? Was there anything on the car that indicated what time you had parked the car? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 605 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did you park along a road? yes Or is this outside a supermarket/shopping centre (which usually would have that sort of time limits)? no Did you come up with an excuse for parking too long? no If so, someone being sick? had an accident? your clock had stopped? other? no Or did you tell them you had not been parking that long, that you had gone and returned? Yes, you're very close with this. You need to find out the precise rules of parking that were displayed, how the infringement was discovered, and how I weaselled my way out of it Was there anything on the car that indicated what time you had parked the car? no | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 221 Registered: 11-2003 |
Is it relevant how long you are allowed to park? Are there any excemption from the rule of the maximum time limit? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 607 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it relevant how long you are allowed to park? yes Are there any excemption from the rule of the maximum time limit? no | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 222 Registered: 11-2003 |
Are you allowed to park 30 minutes? an hour? 2 hours? 3 hours? more than 3 hours? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 608 Registered: 3-2006 |
Are you allowed to park 30 minutes? an hour? this one 2 hours? 3 hours? more than 3 hours? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 224 Registered: 11-2003 |
Could this excuse have worked if the allowed time was less than one hour? more than one hour? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 610 Registered: 3-2006 |
Could this excuse have worked if the allowed time was less than one hour? more than one hour? in principle, yes to both, though the solution involves a piece of arithmetic, so it's best to stick with 1 hour to keep things simple | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 225 Registered: 11-2003 |
Does it say anything on the sign that can be tweaked in to getting out of it when you have parked that much longer? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 611 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does it say anything on the sign that can be tweaked in to getting out of it when you have parked that much longer? sort of ... but there's no verbal tweaking involved | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 228 Registered: 11-2003 |
Can everyone park there? Or is it just for guests/clients for some company? (Thinking something like "One hour parking for visitors to XX", and that maybe you then claimed you thought you could park longer, that the time limit was only for the visitors to XX) | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 612 Registered: 3-2006 |
Can everyone park there? yes Or is it just for guests/clients for some company? (Thinking something like "One hour parking for visitors to XX", and that maybe you then claimed you thought you could park longer, that the time limit was only for the visitors to XX) nothing like this: the sign said 'Parking Restricted To 1 Hour' and then something else | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 232 Registered: 11-2003 |
Did it specify days of week? Did what followed start with except? after? unless? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 613 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did it specify days of week? no Did what followed start with except? after? unless? none of these | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 234 Registered: 11-2003 |
Would you be able to park there more than one hour if you paid a parking fee after that amout of time? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 614 Registered: 3-2006 |
Would you be able to park there more than one hour if you paid a parking fee after that amout of time? no | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 235 Registered: 11-2003 |
The text that followed, was it simply for information (like contact information)? or did it specify something in relation to the parking rules? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 616 Registered: 3-2006 |
The text that followed, was it simply for information (like contact information)? not this or did it specify something in relation to the parking rules? this one | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 236 Registered: 11-2003 |
Did it specify that someone could be excempt from the one hour rule? Did it specify something regarding the length of time? what area the rule was applicable for? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 617 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did it specify that someone could be excempt from the one hour rule? no Did it specify something regarding the length of time? it specified a length of time what area the rule was applicable for? no | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 240 Registered: 11-2003 |
Please clarify. You said it specified length of time, but that was specified in the first part?? We are now talking about what else was on the sign, after 'Parking Restricted to one hour'. | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 619 Registered: 3-2006 |
Please clarify. Hehehe. I shall do my best. You said it specified length of time, but that was specified in the first part?? yes We are now talking about what else was on the sign, after 'Parking Restricted to one hour'. That's right. The second part also mentioned a length of time. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 243 Registered: 11-2003 |
Was the second part contradicting the first part? if so, was the time longer or shorter than one hour? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 620 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was the second part contradicting the first part? no if so, was the time longer or shorter than one hour? no :~) | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 244 Registered: 11-2003 |
Should have left work over an hour ago, but seems to be stuck here, lol. One last try before I go. Did the second part specify length of time a certain amount of times? So you could say that it was one hour per time it was listed (or something like that)? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 621 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did the second part specify length of time a certain amount of times? So you could say that it was one hour per time it was listed (or something like that)? Nothing like that, I'm afraid. It's something far commoner and simpler, and you're very near the solution. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 246 Registered: 11-2003 |
Near the solution? Never felt more confused in my whole life, lol Does the second part specify the same length of time just with different choice of words? Did you pretend to not understand? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 566 Registered: 1-2007 |
Does the second part have anything to do with a certain weather condition, like during snow fall, rain, fog etc? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 623 Registered: 3-2006 |
Near the solution? Never felt more confused in my whole life, lol Hehe. That's how I feel about the Fritz Kreisler puzzle right now. Does the second part specify the same length of time just with different choice of words? difficult to answer: it specified a similar length of time, but it wasn't just a varied way of saying the first part Did you pretend to not understand? no Does the second part have anything to do with a certain weather condition, like during snow fall, rain, fog etc? no, nothing like this | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1211 Registered: 6-2006 |
I guess we're even because I'm completely baffled on this one too!!...this is what happens when you put the word quickie in your title, you know. So the sign specified 1 hour parking and also mentioned another length of time? A different length of time? Longer? Shorter? Did the sigh specify a consequence of parking there past the time limit? Relevant? You said there is arithmetic involved in this...adding the two lengths of time together? other addition? multiplication? subtraction? division? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 578 Registered: 1-2007 |
Holidays relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 634 Registered: 3-2006 |
I guess we're even because I'm completely baffled on this one too!!...this is what happens when you put the word quickie in your title, you know. Hehe, absolutely So the sign specified 1 hour parking and also mentioned another length of time? yes A different length of time? a different period of time, also 1 hour Longer? so, no Shorter? and no Did the sigh specify a consequence of parking there past the time limit? it may have said something like "Thou shalt pay £60", but it isn't relevant You said there is arithmetic involved in this...adding the two lengths of time together? other addition? multiplication? subtraction? division? subtraction is nearest | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 635 Registered: 3-2006 |
Holidays relevant? no | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1212 Registered: 6-2006 |
Does it mention a specific time/hour, like 1:00pm to 2:00pm, for example? If so, is it relevant what time? Did the length of time you were parked there fall partially within this particular hour? I'm thinking perhaps the sign says that parking is not enforced between the hours of 1:00pm and 2:00pm, but parking is restricted to 1 hour, so maybe you parked there at 12:15, and left at 2:15...so you were there for 2 hours, but only 1 hour of it was during the time that parking is enforced...(then again, I've never heard of a place where parking is enforced 23 hours of the day and not the other 1...) | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 636 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does it mention a specific time/hour, like 1:00pm to 2:00pm, for example? no If so, is it relevant what time? Did the length of time you were parked there fall partially within this particular hour? n/a I'm thinking perhaps the sign says that parking is not enforced between the hours of 1:00pm and 2:00pm, but parking is restricted to 1 hour, so maybe you parked there at 12:15, and left at 2:15...so you were there for 2 hours, but only 1 hour of it was during the time that parking is enforced...(then again, I've never heard of a place where parking is enforced 23 hours of the day and not the other 1...) Good thinking. Actually this is exactly like the French system, where you get two hours' free parking at lunchtime. It's not the answer, though it uses a rather similar logic. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 379 Registered: 9-2003 |
so the first part says 1 hour? in those words? and the second part says the same time but in a different way? 60 minutes? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 646 Registered: 3-2006 |
so the first part says 1 hour? yes in those words? yes and the second part says the same time but in a different way? no: it refers to an hour as well 60 minutes? the sign says "Parking Limited To One Hour, [blah blah blah] one hour" | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 253 Registered: 11-2003 |
Does it say something like 'parking can not exceed one hour'? 'parking longer than one hour is strictly prohibited'? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 649 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does it say something like 'parking can not exceed one hour'? 'parking longer than one hour is strictly prohibited'? no, the second instruction is an addition to the first, not just a reinforcement | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 256 Registered: 11-2003 |
Was there any instruction about where to park? Did it say that it was forbidden to move the car to a different slot? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 652 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was there any instruction about where to park? no Did it say that it was forbidden to move the car to a different slot? no but otrt | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 257 Registered: 11-2003 |
Did it specify any length of time between two incidents of parking (of the same car)? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 653 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did it specify any length of time between two incidents of parking (of the same car)? it most certainly did | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 260 Registered: 11-2003 |
Was that length of time also one hour? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 654 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was that length of time also one hour? YES! You're almost there now. The sign said "Parking limited to 1 hour. No return within 1 hour". I was actually there for four hours. You just need to find out what was written on my parking ticket, and what I wrote/claimed in order to wriggle through the loophole | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 262 Registered: 11-2003 |
So there was a ticket involved? Was it visible in your parked car? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 655 Registered: 3-2006 |
So there was a ticket involved? Was it visible in your parked car? no, not that kind of ticket: just the nasty ticket slapped on my car by the parking warden | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 263 Registered: 11-2003 |
Hmm, just an idea. Did they specify what times they had seen the car parked there? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 656 Registered: 3-2006 |
Hmm, just an idea. Did they specify what times they had seen the car parked there? absolutely | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 264 Registered: 11-2003 |
Ah, so they indicated they had seen it there every hour? 12-1-2-3-4-5, and you said that you had parked from 12 to 1, 2-3, 4-5, which means you had been away the necessary hour in between? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 657 Registered: 3-2006 |
Ah, so they indicated they had seen it there every hour? 12-1-2-3-4-5, and you said that you had parked from 12 to 1, 2-3, 4-5, which means you had been away the necessary hour in between? Ooooh, not quite, but incredibly close. In that scenario, the warden would have seen me park up and drive off each time: that's not quite how it happened. I sense la spoliere coming very soon ... | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 388 Registered: 9-2003 |
did they see the car there at only twice? at the beginning of the time? and at the end? so you could safely claim there was more than an hour between 2 sets of parking? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 265 Registered: 11-2003 |
You say ''the warden would have seen me park up and drive off each time''. Does this mean that your car was visible to him/her all the time? Or just that the warden would have seen you just as he/she was approaching the car? Should we try to determine how often the car had been seen? If so, twice? three times? more than four | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 660 Registered: 3-2006 |
did they see the car there at only twice? at the beginning of the time? and at the end? so you could safely claim there was more than an hour between 2 sets of parking? yes: the key is that the car was observed only twice Should we try to determine how often the car had been seen? If so, twice? this one three times? more than four ***** SPOILER ***** Timothy parked in a space marked "Parking limited to one hour. No return within one hour" at 1.00pm on a bank holiday Monday. Thinking that nobody would bother, he returned to his car at 5.00pm, to find a nasty ticket on his car and a fine of 60 pounds. When he opened the sealed ticket envelope, he found that the car had been observed by a warden at 1.30pm and again at 3.30pm. At first glance it seems that he has been caught fair and square. In fact, he simply wriggled out of the loophole by writing to the council to say he had parked from 1.00 to 2.00 and again, quite legally, from 3.00 to 4.00. With no additional evidence, they had to let him off. Additional note: In general, whatever the timings involved, two sightings of the car are never enough to prove that an offence has been committed. If there is less than an hour between sightings, the motorist just says he was there for no more than an hour. If there is more than an hour between sightings, he claims that he left just after the first sighting and returned just before the second. In fact, assuming that the warden and motorist never actually see each other druing the parking and leaving, at least THREE sightings are always necessary. In this example, 1.30, 2.15 and 3.00 would have done the trick. Thanks for playing! It's a true story and it actually worked. But if you ever try to use this sneaky way out of a parking ticket, please don't blame me. It happened a while ago, and I have a feeling that the wardens might have closed the loophole by now. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 269 Registered: 11-2003 |
So simple and yet so difficult to crack, lol.. | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1222 Registered: 6-2006 |
In downtown Athens, Georgia, there are parking meters, but your parking is still limited to 1 hour at a time. (a pain for those of us who work downtown, as the parking decks are more expensive) The parking attendents mark peoples tires with chalk as they walk by, so when they come back, if there is chalk still on the tire they can prove you didn't leave and come back. People try to get around this by wiping the chalk off their tires when they go to put another coin in the meter, but I've witnessed on more than one occasion a person get chewed out by a parking attendant for this, and get a ticket anyway...according to the attendant, it is illegal to wipe the chalk off your tire... Now, I have a hard time understanding how removing a mark off your personal property can be illegal, but...those attendents are not people you want to cross!! | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 672 Registered: 3-2006 |
Hehe. Nasty. I would probably call it defacing my property if someone started chalking my car. Well, American ideas have a habit of crossing the Pond, so it will only be a matter of time before our wardens start putting secret marks on cars, and other skulduggery. "Why was I prosecuted for cleaning marks off my own property?" might have made a fine puzzle in its own right. Perhaps wait a year and run it. |
