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Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 582 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 7:11 pm: |      |
There is a well-known book whose title sounds like a South American adventure story. In fact, it is something else altogether. Inspired by Crazypalpig's recent puzzle, but this is totally different. Perhaps too easy: as ever, early thpoilers please email. |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 802 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 12:18 am: |      |
YAY Ummm... Indiana Jones? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 585 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 10:06 am: |      |
YAY Ummm... Indiana Jones? He doesn't feature in this one, I'm afraid |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 44 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 10:09 am: |      |
Does it have the name of a South American country in its title? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 586 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 10:16 am: |      |
Does it have the name of a South American country in its title? It most certainly does. I did wonder whether this was Googleproof, but I googled the title, and the relevant reference didn't come up for several hundred pages. |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 804 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 12:56 pm: |      |
Or a Capital city, like parimaribo? Countreys: Falkland islands? Brasil? Peru? Bolivia? Paraguay? uraguay? argentina? Chile? Suriname? Ecuador? venezuella? the two guineas? Colombo? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 589 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 2:45 pm: |      |
Bolivia? this one |
Goldenspiral (Goldenspiral)
New member Username: Goldenspiral
Post Number: 106 Registered: 3-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 12:45 pm: |      |
Does it have the name of a South American country in its title? It most certainly does. I did wonder whether this was Googleproof, but I googled the title, and the relevant reference didn't come up for several hundred pages. Not the CIA - The World Factbook -- Boliva then? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 596 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 6:59 pm: |      |
Not the CIA - The World Factbook -- Boliva then? Indeed not |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 813 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 2:33 am: |      |
Relevant Bolivia sounds like believe ya? Like bolivia now?(believe ya now?) |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 601 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 10:13 am: |      |
Relevant Bolivia sounds like believe ya? Like bolivia now?(believe ya now?) That's ingenious. Not relevant though. |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 10:22 am: |      |
How many words in the title? [insert list of numbers] |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 603 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 10:31 am: |      |
How many words in the title? 3 |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 816 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 12:44 pm: |      |
are one of the words a verb? Any adjectives, adverbs? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 609 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 12:51 pm: |      |
are one of the words a verb? no Any adjectives no, adverbs? yope |
Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer
Post Number: 570 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 8:46 pm: |      |
Simon Bolivar remotely relevant? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 626 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 8:48 pm: |      |
Simon Bolivar remotely relevant? no |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 82 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 8:51 pm: |      |
Is the book a novel? Factual book? Does the word Bolivia in the title refer to the country, or does it mean something else here? Is the country of Bolivia featured in the book? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 628 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 8:53 pm: |      |
Is the book a novel? no Factual book? yes Does the word Bolivia in the title refer to the country yes, or does it mean something else here? I think just the country, but it's been a while since I read the book Is the country of Bolivia featured in the book? yes it is |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 83 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 8:57 pm: |      |
Is the book about Bolivia? Like a guide to Bolivia, or about its culture/history? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 629 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 9:02 pm: |      |
Is the book about Bolivia? no Like a guide to Bolivia, or about its culture/history? no-ish |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 826 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 4:53 pm: |      |
You said it had an adverb as a yope... is the word not? how many other nouns? one? |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 827 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 4:54 pm: |      |
I doubt its this, Ripley's believe it or not?(I still can't get the fact that Bolivia sounds way too much like believe. ) |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 658 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 5:39 pm: |      |
You said it had an adverb as a yope... true, if confusing is the word not? No. "Not" is a funny adverb, but an adverb nonetheless. Clever line of thought, though. how many other nouns? one? another yope, I'm afraid I doubt its this, Ripley's believe it or not?(I still can't get the fact that Bolivia sounds way too much like believe. ) LOL. No, nothing whatever to do with "believe ya" |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 829 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 1:08 pm: |      |
Ok, thanks. Funny adverbs... Can't think of any. Ending with LY? Is there an article?(a, an, the?) Is there a conjunction? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 665 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 1:17 pm: |      |
Ending with LY? no Is there an article?(a, an, the?) no Is there a conjunction? no |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 831 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 1:23 pm: |      |
Wow, you're online right now with me? In that case... So, we have (Kinda) established the three words. One is a weirdo adverb, and the other is some noun that gets a yope. Is it because the noun is a pronoun? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 667 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 1:36 pm: |      |
In that case... So, we have (Kinda) established the three words. Hmmm .... maybe a FA One is a weirdo adverb Well, the answer to "is it an adverb?" is decidedly yes and no. It isn't a weird word. and the other is some noun that gets a yope. Beware FA again Is it because the noun is a pronoun? nope: no pronouns involved |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 832 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 2:12 pm: |      |
Is the mystery adverb at the beginning? middle? end? And the noun? and the word Bolivia? |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 1223 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 3:11 pm: |      |
Are the yopish adverb and noun words with different definitions, so that they could be either those parts of speech, or another? Any other languages relevant? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 673 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 3:36 pm: |      |
Is the mystery adverb at the beginning? this one middle? end? And the noun? the yopish noun is the first word and the word Bolivia? Bolivia is the third word Are the yopish adverb and noun words with different definitions, so that they could be either those parts of speech yes, but beware FA, probably cleared up above, or another? Any other languages relevant? no |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 839 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 8:34 pm: |      |
Wait, so you're saying that the noun and the adverb are the same words!? OOH, does the ending of the title say,"Of bolivia?" |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 685 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 8:46 pm: |      |
Wait, so you're saying that the noun and the adverb are the same words!? Yes: the same word, which can be read in two ways OOH, does the ending of the title say,"Of bolivia?" no |
Huntinggirl (Huntinggirl)
New member Username: Huntinggirl
Post Number: 62 Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 10:13 pm: |      |
Hey Woodworm, I've been trying to think up an intelligent question for this puzzle but I can't. May I just say that through the day today I've had reason to smile happily every time I came to think of the word Googleproof. |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 840 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 11:21 pm: |      |
So, homophones/homonyms relevant? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 687 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 11:07 am: |      |
So, homophones no/homonyms yesrelevant? The first word has two relevant meanings, but the spelling and pronunciation are the same |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 843 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 12:41 pm: |      |
For you info, homophones and homonyms are the same. Oh, I know what this word is... to, too, two? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 690 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 1:23 pm: |      |
Yes, sometimes the words are used interchangeably. For the purposes of my reply, and not wanting to mislead, I went to my trusty, coffee-stained Chambers Dictionary (1983 edition): Homophone: a word which is pronounced the same as another but is different in spelling and meaning. Homonym: a word having the same sound and perhaps the same spelling as another, but a different meaning and origin. It's the second of these which applies here. Oh, I know what this word is... to, too, two? nope, the ambiguous word is not this |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 117 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 5:12 pm: |      |
Is the title of the book supposed to iclude the wpord in its sense as a noun, but if you were to take it as an adverb it would make it sound like a South American adventure story? Or the toher way round? Is the word "fast"? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 695 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 5:16 pm: |      |
Is the title of the book supposed to iclude the wpord in its sense as a noun, but if you were to take it as an adverb it would make it sound like a South American adventure story? YES, exactly this. Good question. Is the word "fast" no? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 119 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 5:21 pm: |      |
Just to clear up the whole homophone/homonym confusion: is this word spelt the same as both an adverb and a noun? Is it a proper noun? An abstract noun? Or something tangible? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 697 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 5:25 pm: |      |
Just to clear up the whole homophone/homonym confusion: is this word spelt the same as both an adverb and a noun? Yes! That's it. [Phew. I was getting quite befuddled by the whole homophone thingy] Is it a proper noun? In this particular context, it's a proper noun An abstract noun? Or something tangible? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 121 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 5:30 pm: |      |
A place name? A person's name? Man or woman's name? A brand name? A month of the year? A title? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 699 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 5:38 pm: |      |
A place name? A person's name? This: a man's name Man or woman's name? A brand name? A month of the year? A title? |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 1233 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 6:14 pm: |      |
Frank? Randy? Bobby? Max? I cant think of any other names that could ever be adverbs! |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 701 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 6:59 pm: |      |
Frank? Randy? Bobby? Max? none of those |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 1234 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 7:20 pm: |      |
Is it a first name? A surname? Is it a common name? or more unusual? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 702 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 7:24 pm: |      |
Is it a first name? A surname? this Is it a common name? or more unusual? In English-speaking countries, it's unusual. I've just checked my phone book, and found only one person with this name. As an adverb, however, it's very very common indeed. |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 1235 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 7:46 pm: |      |
ok then, lets see. A very very common adverb that doesn't end in ly... very? I have a hard time believing you'd give such a hint! almost? always? even? far? fast? less? more? never? often? quite? rather? seldom? soon? well? ahead? again? also? ever? back? early? forward? late? little? here? now? hence? never? high? low? then? near? thus? in what countries would this surname be common? South American? Bolivia???? European? Asian? African? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 703 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 8:02 pm: |      |
very? I have a hard time believing you'd give such a hint! Hehe! Am I that mean? almost? always? even? far? fast? less? more? never? often? quite? rather? seldom? soon? well? ahead? again? also? ever? back? YAY! early? forward? late? little? here? now? hence? never? high? low? then? near? thus? in what countries would this surname be common? South American? Bolivia???? no European? this one Asian? African? |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 1236 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 8:20 pm: |      |
No, you're not mean, it just seems a bit early in the life of the puzzle to stick part of the answer out there like that!!! I certainty wouldn't if I were you! And you wouldn't either it seems! Ok, so the title is Back _________ Bolivia.... is th middle word from? to? in? |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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Post Number: 849 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 8:31 pm: |      |
I tried a google search, and is the story John Renaud's?(or something like that) |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 704 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 8:58 pm: |      |
No, you're not mean, it just seems a bit early in the life of the puzzle to stick part of the answer out there like that!!! I certainty wouldn't if I were you! And you wouldn't either it seems! Aha! I misunderstood. No, it's not "very". Oh I do wish we could have our smiles back! Ok, so the title is Back _________ Bolivia.... is th middle word from? to? this one in? I tried a google search, and is the story John Renaud's?(or something like that) no: it might be fun to finish this one off without google, especially as you're all closing in |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 1237 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 10:34 pm: |      |
So you said its a non-fiction book? Is it a biography? textbook? travel book? essay? atlas? Wait a second... Eureka moment! I think not to all of those, but.... Is it an encyclopedia? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 705 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 10:42 pm: |      |
So you said its a non-fiction book? Is it a biography? textbook? travel book? essay? atlas? Wait a second... Eureka moment! I think not to all of those, but.... Is it an encyclopedia? Allez Archimedes! Care to spoil? |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 1238 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 11:02 pm: |      |
Well, I don't know what encyclopedia, but a volume (vol. 2? 3?) of some encyclopedia, it seems, begins with an entry about someone named Back, and concludes with one about Bolivia. Thus the title of the volume would read: Back to Bolivia. I'll leave the details to you! Great puzzle! |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 706 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 - 11:25 pm: |      |
Perfect! And so to the: **** SPOILER **** Volume 2 of the New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians (1980) is titled BACK TO BOLIVIA. For what it's worth, here is the full list of volumes: 1. A to Bacilly 2. Back to Bolivia 3. Bollioud-Mermet to Castro 4. Castrucci to Courante 5. Couraud to Edlund 6. Edmund to Fryklund 7. Fuchs to Gyuzeleu 8. H to Hypoichema 9. Iacobus to Kerman 10. Kern to Lindelheim 11. Lineman to Meantone 12. Meares to Mutis 13. Muwashshah to Ory 14. Osaka to Player Piano 15. Playford to Riedt 16. Riegel to Schisterfleck 17. Schutz to Spinto 18. Spiridion to Tin Whistle 19. Tiomkin to Virdung 20. Virelai to Zywny, Appendix This was a bit of an in-joke amongst music students. There were a few jokes in that particular edition: not least an entry for a completely fictitious Danish composer called Dag Esrum-Hellerup. Apparently his name was a conflation of two Danish railway stations. The general editor, Stanley Sadie, was not an happy bunny. As for Mr Back: there are actually three musicians of that name. Konrad Back (1749-1810), the organist and composer (apparently); not to be confused with violinist Oskar Back (1879-1963), or Sven-Erik Back (b.1919). The New Grove has now been published in a new edition. Apparently, Barry Manilow almost made it to the spine of the book, but the thought was too awful to contemplate, so they changed the pagination. Thanks everyone! |