| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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South Korea has am ettiquette rule I've never encountered elsewhere. Once you think about it, it seems so logical you wonder why everyplace doesn't have it. What is it?????? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
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does it involve eating? saying something? behaving in front of other people? something you do in a public place? in your own home? is it mainly for males? females? both? adults? children? both? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Is there a specific place where the rule is practiced? is a person's age relevant? would two people alone somewhere engage in this ettiquette? is it a gesture? if so, would one person say or make the gesture and another person respond? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
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Ettiquette rule... old? modern? Originated before computers? Originated before cars? Originated before electricity? Is the ettiquette performed... verbal? gesture? physical? Involve more than just your person? Involve an animal? A mode of transportation? A building? Inside? Outside? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2465 Registered: 8-2001 |
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 9:25 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- does it involve eating? nosaying something? no behaving in front of other people? possibly something you do in a public place? yes in your own home?unlikely is it mainly for males? no females? no both? yes adults? no children?]b{ no} both? yes Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 1:27 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is there a specific place where the rule is practiced? yes is a person's age relevant? yope would two people alone somewhere engage in this ettiquette? yes is it a gesture?yope if so, would one person say or make the gesture and another person respond? no Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 1:53 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ettiquette rule... old?I don't know modern? ditto Originated before computers? I think so| Originated before cars? I don't know Originated before electricity? ditto Is the ettiquette performed... verbal? nogesture? yopephysical? yope Involve more than just your person? noish Involve an animal? noA mode of transportation? noA building? yes Inside? yesOutside? no | ||
| Ostap (Ostap)
New member Username: Ostap Post Number: 51 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is it practiced inside a public building? government building? parliament? library? school? university? museum? cinema? theatre? restaurant? casino? church? temple? other building of religious meaning? hospital? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 980 Registered: 3-2006 |
Anything to do with commerce? Does it take place in a specific type of building? A shop? A temple? A restaurant? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 194 Registered: 6-2007 |
is time of day relevant? morning? noon? night? would this be done in any public place or is there a specific classification of a public place for the gesture? would the people be holding? wearing? doing? anything relevant? is something done with their hands? head? legs? body? can it be done standing? sitting? is it something that is initially done when two people have not seen each other for some time? Would 2 people do this after having greeted one another? can this be done with 3 people? 4? would it be done over the telephone? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 195 Registered: 6-2007 |
is anything like rank, class, skill level, salary level relevant? is it a momentary gesture? does it take 30 seconds or more to complete? is it something a person does when he interrupts another person? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2469 Registered: 8-2001 |
New member Username: Ostap Post Number: 51 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 9:58 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is it practiced inside a public building? yes--all public buildings government building? parliament? library? school? university? museum? cinema? theatre? restaurant? casino? church? temple? other building of religious meaning? hospital? Woodworm (Woodworm) New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 980 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 1:02 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anything to do with commerce? noDoes it take place in a specific type of building? A shop? A temple? A restaurant? all public buildings Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 194 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 1:05 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is time of day relevant? no morning? noon? night? would this be done in any public place or is there a specific classification of a public place for the gesture? any public building would the people be holding?yes wearing? nodoing? yesishanything relevant? is something done with their hands? yeshead? nolegs? possiblybody?yes can it be done standing? yes sitting? yes is it something that is initially done when two people have not seen each other for some time? no Would 2 people do this after having greeted one another? possibly can this be done with 3 people? 4? yes, but each person does it separately would it be done over the telephone? no Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 195 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 1:08 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is anything like rank, class, skill level, salary level relevant? no is it a momentary gesture? it's usually very quickdoes it take 30 seconds or more to complete? unlikely but possible is it something a person does when he interrupts another person? no | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 223 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is it related to... ...queuing lines? ...entering or exiting a building? going through doors? ...maneuvering while walking? like when two people are walking in opposite directions on a sidewalk and try to pass each other? ...bathrooms? ...something done while in a vehicle? a car? parking relevant? ...communicating information? a specific type of information? ...soemthing you would do in an emergency? like a fire? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2470 Registered: 8-2001 |
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 6:48 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is it related to... ...queuing lines? no ...entering yes or exiting a building? no going through doors? noish ...maneuvering while walking? no like when two people are walking in opposite directions on a sidewalk and try to pass each other? no ...bathrooms? no ...something done while in a vehicle? no a car? parking relevant? no ...communicating information? a specific type of information? no ...soemthing you would do in an emergency?no like a fire? no | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 812 Registered: 9-2003 |
anything to do with opening doors? holding them open for other people? | ||
| Demon_fox09 (Demon_fox09)
New member Username: Demon_fox09 Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2007 |
the answer is KNOCKING | ||
| Demon_fox09 (Demon_fox09)
New member Username: Demon_fox09 Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2007 |
the answer is KNOCKING | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 200 Registered: 6-2007 |
is bowing involved? would one do this to a complete stranger? does it seem logical because it serves some purpose? hygiene? the status of something relevant is conveyed? it is an "ice-breaker" for strangers? it raises their spirits? it brings peace? there is something relevant in the hand of the person performing this gesture? in both hands? is there an offering? is money in the hand? is the gesture associated with a relevant transaction? could someone with no arms make the "gesture"? would someone with no arms need to make it? | ||
| Demon_fox09 (Demon_fox09)
New member Username: Demon_fox09 Post Number: 3 Registered: 7-2007 |
check your mail | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 224 Registered: 5-2007 |
So it has to do with entering a building, but not(ish) with going through doors. Does it have to do with doors at all? Avoiding accidentally hitting someone while opening a door? Does it involve closing doors? Locking or unlocking them? Is it something that someone inside a building would do to someone outside of it? Vice versa? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2475 Registered: 8-2001 |
Username: Alex319 Post Number: 224 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 12:15 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So it has to do with entering a building, but not(ish) with going through doors. yes Does it have to do with doors at all? no Avoiding accidentally hitting someone while opening a door? no Does it involve closing doors? no Locking or unlocking them? no. Doors figure only insofar as people normally go through doorways before entering buildings Is it something that someone inside a building would do to someone outside of it? no Vice versa? no | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 422 Registered: 6-2003 |
As you mentioned South Korea specifically, is this rule not observed in North Korea? in Japan? in China? Does it involve holding some item? while entering a public building? before? after? Is the item something that can be carried around? something that have the people with them? Is it done by men? by women? by youngers? by olders? Is it done always? only on special occasions? during particular hours of the day? on particular days? only when other people are present? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 815 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it to do with wiping your feet? some sort of security check? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 49 Registered: 5-2007 |
Has this anything to do with taking your shoes off before entering a house? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 211 Registered: 6-2007 |
Don't forget my questions 7 posts back. would this be done before entering a residence? is it possible to do this before entering a residence? is there any sound associated with the gesture? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 225 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is it something you would do immediately after entering a building? Immediately before entering a building? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2477 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 200 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 - 12:41 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is bowing involved? no false assumption would one do this to a complete stranger? does it seem logical because it serves some purpose? yes hygiene? no the status of something relevant is conveyed? no it is an "ice-breaker" for strangers? noit raises their spirits? noit brings peace? no there is something relevant in the hand of the person performing this gesture? in both hands? is there an offering?no is money in the hand? no is the gesture associated with a relevant transaction? yope could someone with no arms make the "gesture"? not in the usual way would someone with no arms need to make it? yes | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2478 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sundowner) New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 422 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 8:17 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As you mentioned South Korea specifically, is this rule not observed in North Korea? I don't know. I'm spending the summer in South Korea & have never been in other East Asian countries in Japan? ditto in China? ditto Does it involve holding some item? yeswhile entering a public building? yes before? yesafter? yes Is the item something that can be carried around? yes something that have the people with them? yes Is it done by men? yes by women? yes by youngers? yesby olders? yes Is it done always? no only on special occasions? yesishduring particular hours of the day? yopeon particular days? yope only when other people are present? no ~damia~ (~damia~) New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 815 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 9:32 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is it to do with wiping your feet? nosome sort of security check? no Woubit (Woubit) Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 49 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 12:04 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Has this anything to do with taking your shoes off before entering a house? no Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 211 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 12:33 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't forget my questions 7 posts back. Done, with my apologies would this be done before entering a residence?possibly is it possible to do this before entering a residence? yes is there any sound associated with the gesture? no Alex319 (Alex319) New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 225 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:26 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is it something you would do immediately after entering a building? yesImmediately before entering a building? no | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 478 Registered: 4-2007 |
so the "gesture" is done with the hands and the body, correct? Is this "gesture" a form of greeting? do the two people come into contact with each other when following this rule? (ie does the rule cause the two persons to touch one another with hands, body, etc.)? Or do their hands/bodies come into contact with something else? Do people of all ages follow this rule? Does anything vary about the rule when people of different age groups interact with one another? in the puzzle statement you mentioned that you have never come across this etiquitte rule... Does this mean that South Korea is the only place that has this rule? Could another Asian country possibly have this rule? Or, does this mean that you have never come across this rule in places that you have visited or studied about? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2480 Registered: 8-2001 |
Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 4:26 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- so the "gesture" is done with the hands and the body, correct? It's normally done with the hands & arms. Your body is what gets you into the building in the first place. Is this "gesture" a form of greeting? nodo the two people come into contact with each other when following this rule? no(ie does the rule cause the two persons to touch one another with hands, body, etc.)? noOr do their hands/bodies come into contact with something else? yes Do people of all ages follow this rule? well, infants hardly could, but anyone who's able to do it is expected toDoes anything vary about the rule when people of different age groups interact with one another? no in the puzzle statement you mentioned that you have never come across this etiquitte rule... Does this mean that South Korea is the only place that has this rule? I don't know Could another Asian country possibly have this rule? possiblyOr, does this mean that you have never come across this rule in places that you have visited or studied about? Right, but I don't know much about other East Asian countries. The 2 other Asian countries I've visited or lived in--India & Israel--do not have this rule | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 214 Registered: 6-2007 |
are you expected to do the gesture because you are holding the item? or.. would one carry the item anticipating that it is needed for the upcoming gesture? If a person enters a public building.. he/she does the gesture one time only? if he/she goes out to, say, feed a parking meter, does he/she do it again when reentering? would one do the gesture spccifically in the presence on another person answering the door? would one do the gesture alone, without another person in sight? The item in the visitor's hand, is it brought to the building by the visitor? is it picked up outside the building and brought inside? is it offered to a person in the building? is it left in the building? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2482 Registered: 8-2001 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- are you expected to do the gesture because you are holding the item? yes or.. would one carry the item anticipating that it is needed for the upcoming gesture? no If a person enters a public building.. he/she does the gesture one time only? yes if he/she goes out to, say, feed a parking meter, does he/she do it again when reentering? possibly would one do the gesture spccifically in the presence on another person answering the door? possibly would one do the gesture alone, without another person in sight?yes The item in the visitor's hand, is it brought to the building by the visitor?yes is it picked up outside the building and brought inside? well, not right outside the building, if that's what you mean is it offered to a person in the building? is it left in the building ?no | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 301 Registered: 4-2007 |
Could the purpose of this gesture be described as "greeting the house"? is it done upon entering public transport? public garden with a wall around it? a train station or an airport? An item carried: umbrella? purse? wallet? newspaper? hat? weapon? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2484 Registered: 8-2001 |
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 301 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2007 - 4:44 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Could the purpose of this gesture be described as "greeting the house"?no is it done upon entering public transport? i'm not sure public garden with a wall around it? no a train station or an airport? I'm not sure An item carried: umbrella? yes purse? nowallet? nonewspaper? nohat? no weapon? no | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 320 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is the gesture made if an umbrella was used immediately before being carried into the house ( and is wet )? if it has not been used recently? Does the person entering the house continue to carry the umbrella? leave it by the door? shake it? open it? Is this an umbrella or a parasol? | ||
| Demon_fox09 (Demon_fox09)
New member Username: Demon_fox09 Post Number: 5 Registered: 7-2007 |
Is it closing the umbrella before going in? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 242 Registered: 6-2007 |
is it logical because it prevents the "umbrellist" from getting the interior wet? or does it help ensure that everyone gets to use an umbrella? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2487 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 242 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 1:55 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is it logical because it prevents the "umbrellist" from getting the interior wet? yes or does it help ensure that everyone gets to use an umbrella?b{ no} | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 328 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is the gesture made if an umbrella was used immediately before being carried into the house ( and is wet )? if it has not been used recently? Does the person entering the house continue to carry the umbrella? leave it by the door? shake it? open it? Is this an umbrella or a parasol? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2489 Registered: 8-2001 |
Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 328 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 7:23 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is the gesture made if an umbrella was used immediately before being carried into the house ( and is wet )?yes if it has not been used recently? no Does the person entering the house continue to carry the umbrella? yesleave it by the door?no shake it?no open it?no Is this an umbrella=yes or a parasol? no | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 332 Registered: 4-2007 |
Given the fact that I have seen many people turn around and shake open umbrella right outside the doorway, or to shake folded umbrella on the rug just inside ... ... Does the person form a circle with his thumb and index finger, and run it down the folded umbrella to squeeze the water out? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2490 Registered: 8-2001 |
Post Number: 332 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 8:41 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Given the fact that I have seen many people turn around and shake open umbrella right outside the doorway, or to shake folded umbrella on the rug just inside ... ... Does the person form a circle with his thumb and index finger, and run it down the folded umbrella to squeeze the water out?no | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 335 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is any other item besides umbrella used? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2492 Registered: 8-2001 |
Post Number: 335 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 9:06 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is any other item besides umbrella used? yes | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 336 Registered: 4-2007 |
Does one fold an umbrella and put cover on? are narrow plastic bags provided for carrying wet umbrellas indoors? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 253 Registered: 6-2007 |
is there a relevant place to put the umbrella? is there some kind of tool? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2494 Registered: 8-2001 |
Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 11:16 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does one fold an umbrella and put cover on? yes are narrow plastic bags provided for carrying wet umbrellas indoors? yes Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 253 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:22 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is there a relevant place to put the umbrella? see above is there some kind of tool no *******SPOILER ********************** It rains a lot in South Korea during the summer & people are prepared. Public buildings have stacks of plastic umbrella-covers near the entrance. Failing to take one & cover your dripping umbrella with it is the Korean equivalent of spitting on the street. Now please go to the bottom of the page for Korean Puzzle #3 |
