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Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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John was great at it. Mark was awful, yet Mark won.
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Did Mark win some sort of game?
Was John playing the same game?
Was John playing with Mark?

John was great - ie good/talented/skillful?
Mark was awful - ie poor/untalented/unskillful?

Was Mark awful at the same thing that John was great at?
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are jobs relevant? any other people relevant? 1? 2? 3? 4? 5?

could you also state that as John was great at it, Mark was awful at it?

and both its would be the same?
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Did Mark win some sort of game?Yes
Was John playing the same game? Yes
Was John playing with Mark? Yes

John was great - ie good/talented/skillful?Yes
Mark was awful - ie poor/untalented/unskillful? Yes

Was Mark awful at the same thing that John was great at?Yes

are jobs relevant? any other people relevant? 1? 2? 3? 4? 5?No to all

could you also state that as John was great at it, Mark was awful at it? Yes

and both its would be the same?And yes
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Was it a game where the object is to come last? A slow bicycle race perhaps? or one of those board games where instead of accruing money you have to lose it all?
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Was it a game where the object is to come last? A slow bicycle race perhaps? or one of those board games where instead of accruing money you have to lose it all?Nice thoughts, but none of these are right
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Is this a sort of Hare & Tortoise story? Does an unusual event or happening cause John to lose and therefore Mark to win? Any cheating involved? vehicles? crimes? are Mark & John related? is this relevant?
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Did John go in-off the black? :-)
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If John had been a little bit worse, might he have won?
If Mark had been a bit better, might he have lost?
Did Mark cheat?
Is it a game of chance?
Were they playing against each other?
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are they great/awful at playing a game?
if so is there a way to measure skill level of this game other than winning?
Mark got lucky and won once?
Mark had a winning record?
would more than 2 play the game?
indoor? outdoor?
any relevant...
people?
animals?
equipment?
location?
weather?
building?
terrain?
history?
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type of sport? tennis? basketball? skiing? boxing? arm wrestling? equestrian? fencing? golf? skateboarding? surfing? martial arts? badminton? snowboarding? tetherball? wrestling?

board game? if board game, game of skill? chess? checkers?

card games?

online games?

video games?

with any of these sports/games is are they such that only two people would play against each other, are they such that groups can play against each other, or are they such that individuals can compete against many individuals (but in this case only John and Mark were competing)?
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Is Mark human?
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Were John and Mark both trying to win?
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Is this a sort of Hare & Tortoise story? Does an unusual event or happening cause John to lose and therefore Mark to win?Yes Any cheating involved? vehicles? crimes? are Mark & John related? is this relevant?No and none of these

Did John go in-off the black? :-)Wha??

f John had been a little bit worse, might he have won? No
If Mark had been a bit better, might he have lost? No
Did Mark cheat? Not really
Is it a game of chance? Yope
Were they playing against each other?Yes

are they great/awful at playing a game?Yes
if so is there a way to measure skill level of this game other than winning? No
Mark got lucky and won once?No
Mark had a winning record? Yes
would more than 2 play the game? Sometimes, but not this time
indoor? outdoor?Indoor usually
any relevant...
people?
animals?
equipment?
location?
weather?
building?
terrain?
history?None of these

type of sport? tennis? basketball? skiing? boxing? arm wrestling? equestrian? fencing? golf? skateboarding? surfing? martial arts? badminton? snowboarding? tetherball? wrestling?None of these

board game? if board game, game of skill? chess? checkers?Neither

card games?Yes

online games? No

video games? No

with any of these sports/games is are they such that only two people would play against each other, are they such that groups can play against each other, or are they such that individuals can compete against many individuals (but in this case only John and Mark were competing)?Yes

Is Mark human?Yes
Were John and Mark both trying to win?Yes

Wow! that's a ton of questions!
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Would this be a childrens card game? such as Old Maid? Go Fish? Snap?

Or an adult card game? bridge? poker? Gin Rummy? blackjack? Canasta? Whist? acey duecy? brag?

Are jokers involved?
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p.s. "in off the black" is a pool reference. If a player clears all of his balls he then has to pot the black to win . However if in doing so he also pots the white cue ball he loses the game. Therefore it is possible to win a game of pool without potting a ball.
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quote:

if so is there a way to measure skill level of this game other than winning? No



so, great and awful are defined by winning the game, yet the winner is labeled awful?
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Would this be a childrens card game? such as Old Maid? Go Fish? Snap? Ack! you're right!!

Or an adult card game? bridge? poker? Gin Rummy? blackjack? Canasta? Whist? acey duecy? brag?John was good at all of these in general!

Are jokers involved?No

p.s. "in off the black" is a pool reference. If a player clears all of his balls he then has to pot the black to win . However if in doing so he also pots the white cue ball he loses the game. Therefore it is possible to win a game of pool without potting a ball.I know that, just not the term

so, great and awful are defined by winning the game, yet the winner is labeled awful?No, the great at winning the game usually, but that certain day...
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quote:

so, great and awful are defined by winning the game, yet the winner is labeled awful?No, the great at winning the game usually, but that certain day...



sorry I'm a little confused by that.. do you need me to rephrase?
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sorry I'm a little confused by that.. do you need me to rephrase?No, John was great in general, but one day Mark had an immense winning streak
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Is snap the same thing as "slapjack"? The game where you slap a card (in slapjack, it was the jack's) and you won all the cards below?

was John injured/incapacitated that day? hand? wrist? and could not play as well as he normally did, thus helping Mark win more that day?
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from wikipedia...

quote:

the first player to shout "Snap!" and place his hand on the top of the central pile wins all the cards in the pile



did mark succeed in doing the above repeatedly?
was there something about the deck of cards?
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Were they using a standard pack of cards (A,2-9,J,Q,K in four suits)?
Or a pack with pictures on?
Or some other pack of cards?
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Was John physically incapacitated that day? arm in a sling? eye patch? could he speak?
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Is snap the same thing as "slapjack"? The game where you slap a card (in slapjack, it was the jack's) and you won all the cards below?yes I think

was John injured/incapacitated that day?Yes hand?No wrist?No and could not play as well as he normally did, thus helping Mark win more that day?Yes, I think this might qualify for a...

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John was great at all types of card games, and Mark was awful. One day, John had Something that made him unable to speak... So Mark challenged him at snap, which involved slapping, which John was good at, but he couldn't say the work, SNAP!

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