| Author | Message | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 60 Registered: 5-2007 |
Overweight | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 439 Registered: 6-2007 |
does Overweight refer to a person? animal? life form? truck? vehicle? something for transporting something? something that carries weight? the weight of something? the weight limit of something? was something or someone labeled overweight by a person? if the statement was made into a basic complete sentence which tense would be most fitting... past tense? present tense? future? would any of these verbs be suitable.. was? wasn't? became? looked? felt? had been? shouldn't be? should be? ___overweight is overweight a noun or verb in this statement? is something as heavy as a cherry is red? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 61 Registered: 5-2007 |
does Overweight refer to a person? animal? life form? truck? vehicle? something for transporting something? something that carries weight? the weight of something? this is closest, for svv of "something" the weight limit of something? was something or someone labeled overweight by a person? noish if the statement was made into a basic complete sentence which tense would be most fitting... past tense? present tense? this one future? would any of these verbs be suitable.. was? this one wasn't? became? looked? felt? had been? shouldn't be? should be? ___overweight is overweight a noun or verb in this statement? overweight is an adjective in every statement containing the word that I have ever encountered. It is so here. is something as heavy as a cherry is red? Who fished the murex up? | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1586 Registered: 2-2005 |
Weightless poetry relevant? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 62 Registered: 5-2007 |
Weightless poetry relevant? very much so | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1413 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is this your second one about weightless poetry? like your wait-less poetry? Do you want us to find the proper ending for your title? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 63 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is this your second one about weightless poetry? like your wait-less poetry? I don't know how many puzzles I have posted that are actually about weightless poetry. But I was reminded of the topic while reading the Chatroom. Do you want us to find the proper ending for your title? that would hardly be a Lateral Thinking Puzzle | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 442 Registered: 6-2007 |
Does overweight have anything to do with physical weight in the puzzle? figurative weight? does overweight refer to something intangible? is a red object relevant? something which can be labeled "red"? any other color relevant? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 64 Registered: 5-2007 |
Does overweight have anything to do with physical weight in the puzzle? no figurative weight? yes does overweight refer to something intangible? yes is a red object relevant? no something which can be labeled "red"? no, but in a curious sort of way, thinking along these lines may assist you any other color relevant? yesish, in the same curious sort of way | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3307 Registered: 12-2000 |
any other color relevant? yesish Roses are reddish, violets are blueish? | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 449 Registered: 10-2004 |
Is the etymology of a word or phrase relevent? Is Ambrose Phillips relevent? or 'Airy-fairy'? Is music relevent? Any soaring soprano lines? Is there a dichotomy between a piece of poetry, written as 'weightless' and how it's percieved? or visa versa? for example, some nursary rhymes, which if you think about the inspiration (or attributed inspiration), they harldy seem suitable for the context in which they are usually recited in. | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 611 Registered: 4-2007 |
not sure if this is actually weightless, but talk of "red" reminded me of william carlos williams (is he relevant)? The Red Wheelbarrow So much depends upon a red wheel barrow glazed with rain water beside the white chickens. | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1565 Registered: 6-2006 |
Aw, you beat me to it! I was trying to think of a good puzzle about weightless poetry. It's yet to come to me. All that comes to me is this: This poem weighs an awful lot. Or so I thought. But maybe not. As for your puzzle: Is a particular poet relevant? A particular poem? If so, is the poem weightless? Weighty? Overweight for a particular purpose? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1566 Registered: 6-2006 |
I know I've read your title before, byt he way, and I'm racking my brain to remember what poem it's from. Will it help to know that poem? | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1589 Registered: 2-2005 |
It's A Song About Myself by John Keats. Is it that Keats didn't write much that would be considered weightless poetry, so that due to his reputation as a serious poet, even a poem that would be considered weightless by most standards is taken very seriously? Or that the title is easily confused with a very weighty poem indeed, Whitman's A Song Of Myself? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1567 Registered: 6-2006 |
Thanks Rabrab. That was driving me crazy and I felt like Googling would be cheating! | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1590 Registered: 2-2005 |
Thank Sister Emily, who had us memorize it when I was back in high school. I've lost a lot of it, but I still remember chunks of the last stanza, the name, and the poet. | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 65 Registered: 5-2007 |
Lynne any other color relevant? yesish Roses are reddish, violets are blueish? and if it wasn't for Jesus, we'd all be Jewish... but this particular piece of weightless poetry is not relevant Zenith Is the etymology of a word this one, to an extent or phrase relevant? Is Ambrose Phillips relevant? no or 'Airy-fairy'? no Is music relevent? no Any soaring soprano lines? no Is there a dichotomy between a piece of poetry, written as 'weightless' and how it's percieved? to a large extent yes, but this may perhaps mislead or visa versa? for example, some nursery rhymes, which if you think about the inspiration (or attributed inspiration), they hardly seem suitable for the context in which they are usually recited in. nor this kind of thing, but good thinking Booklover not sure if this is actually weightless, but talk of "red" reminded me of william carlos williams (is he relevant)? he is not, mercifully The Red Wheelbarrow So much depends upon a red wheel barrow glazed with rain water beside the white chickens. you see what I mean Beccaann Aw, you beat me to it! I was trying to think of a good puzzle about weightless poetry. It's yet to come to me. All that comes to me is this: This poem weighs an awful lot. Or so I thought. But maybe not. It seems to me a little light - but then again, you could be right. Bonus marks anyway for an excellent composition. As for your puzzle: Is a particular poet relevant? yes A particular poem? yes If so, is the poem weightless? this one Weighty? no... Overweight for a particular purpose? ...but yes I know I've read your title before, by he way, and I'm racking my brain to remember what poem it's from. help is at hand - see below Will it help to know that poem? no Rabrab It's A Song About Myself by John Keats. it is indeed Is it that Keats didn't write much that would be considered weightless poetry, so that due to his reputation as a serious poet, even a poem that would be considered weightless by most standards is taken very seriously? no, for well it was said by the bard: Byron and Shelley and Keats Were a trio of lyrical treats. The forehead of Shelley was covered with curls, And Keats never was a descendant of earls, And Byron went out with a number of girls - But it didn't impair the poetical feats Of Byron and Shelley, Of Byron and Shelley, Of Byron and Shelley and Keats. Dorothy Parker Or that the title is easily confused with a very weighty poem indeed, Whitman's A Song Of Myself? no, but more good thinking Beccaann Thanks Rabrab. That was driving me crazy and I felt like Googling would be cheating! Rabrab Thank Sister Emily, who had us memorize it when I was back in high school. I've lost a lot of it, but I still remember chunks of the last stanza, the name, and the poet. There was a naughty boy, And a naughty boy was he, He ran away to Scotland The people for to see — There he found That the ground Was as hard, That a yard Was as long, That a song Was as merry, That a cherry Was as red, That lead Was as weighty, That fourscore Was as eighty, That a door Was as wooden As in England — So he stood in his shoes And he wonder’d, He wonder’d, He stood in his Shoes and he wonder’d. John Keats | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1592 Registered: 2-2005 |
So the puzzle is about a particular poem and? or? a particular poet, but not "A Song About Myself" or Keats? Piet Hein? His Grooks mostly seem like doggerel, but many of them are amazing profound if given a bit of thought. A PSYCHOLOGICAL TIP Whenever you're called on to make up your mind, and you're hampered by not having any, the best way to solve the dilemma, you'll find, is simply by spinning a penny. No -- not so that chance shall decide the affair while you're passively standing there moping; but the moment the penny is up in the air, you suddenly know what you're hoping. is one of my favorites... | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 66 Registered: 5-2007 |
So the puzzle is about a particular poem yes and? or? a particular poet, yes, but the poet does not particularly matter but not "A Song About Myself" or Keats? neither of those Piet Hein? no, but... His Grooks mostly seem like doggerel, but many of them are amazing profound if given a bit of thought. ...bonus marks for mentioning one of the finest poets of his or any other generation. Indeed, he provided the motto for the LTPF: To make a name for learning when other roads are barred, take something very simple and make it very hard. | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1593 Registered: 2-2005 |
A particular weightless poem, overweight for a particular purpose, and somehow related to the etymology of a word... Well, to home in on the poem, I fear that I must home in on the poet, first. It's just the way my mind stores information. Is the poet well-known? Or is it that oh-so-prolific fellow Anonymous? or his almost-as-prolific brother, Unknown? If it's not either of them, is the poet mostly known for weighty poems? or weightless ones?, or both? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 67 Registered: 5-2007 |
A particular weightless poem, overweight for a particular purpose, and somehow related to the etymology of a word... Well, to home in on the poem, I fear that I must home in on the poet, first. It's just the way my mind stores information. Is the poet well-known? reasonably so Or is it that oh-so-prolific fellow Anonymous? no or his almost-as-prolific brother, Unknown? no, nor any of that famous quartet: Anon, Idem, Ibid and Trad Wrote much that is morally bad. Some ballads, some chanties, All poems on panties, And limericks too, one must add. If it's not either of them, is the poet mostly known for weighty poems? this one or weightless ones?, but he wrote a few of these also or both? | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1594 Registered: 2-2005 |
Ah. English poet? Irish? Scots? American? German? French? Classical? The golden hair that Galla wears Is hers - who would have thought it? She swears 'tis hers, and true she swears, For I know where she bought it. Martial | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 64 Registered: 8-2007 |
k scuse i, the gormless engineering student who loves literature, but hasn't pursued it past high school. What's a weightless poem, as opposed to a weighty poem? is the weight of a poem directly relative to its importance in the annals of poetry or profoundness? Australian poet? (figured i should probably ask something that may be helpful) Fish Wet Pet | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 68 Registered: 5-2007 |
Rabrab English poet? this one Irish? Scots? American? German? French? Classical? Suido What's a weightless poem, as opposed to a weighty poem? is the weight of a poem directly relative to its importance in the annals of poetry or profoundness? indeed - an excellent summary of the position Australian poet? no | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1414 Registered: 8-2006 |
I feel this will be hard: and I am not a bard so please pass this by, like a harmless butterfly Did that make any sense? Is the poet well known? was his first name Will? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 69 Registered: 5-2007 |
I feel this will be hard: and I am not a bard so please pass this by, like a harmless butterfly. Did that make any sense? about as much sense as a sign saying "Ignore This Sign". But bonus marks anyway for a fine contribution to the LTPF Weightless Poetry Museum's collection. Is the poet well known? not as well known as a poet whose first name was Will was his first name Will? no | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 615 Registered: 4-2007 |
hmmm... did this person write novels as well? charles lutwidge dodgson (lewis carroll)? t.s. eliot (though he was actually american)? i don't know what to write-- or the correct questions to ask. everything I say seems so trite on this lateral puzzle task! | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1569 Registered: 6-2006 |
Ah yes, Lewis Carroll also came to me I once had to memorize Jabberwocky But my favorite line Was the Snark-hunting kind For the snark was a Boojum, you see. | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 70 Registered: 5-2007 |
hmmm... did this person write novels as well? yes charles lutwidge dodgson (lewis carroll)? no t.s. eliot (though he was actually american)? not Eliot, but this author did spend some considerable time in America i don't know what to write-- or the correct questions to ask. everything I say seems so trite on this lateral puzzle task! Do not despair, O bibliophile - It isn't such a hopeless case. Progress is made in plodding style, And slow but steady wins the race. | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 71 Registered: 5-2007 |
Ah yes, Lewis Carroll also came to me I once had to memorize Jabberwocky But my favorite line Was the Snark-hunting kind For the snark was a Boojum, you see. Then, in respect of the author in this puzzle: You may seek him with thimbles, and seek him with care, Pursue him with forks and hope, But do not give up and start tearing your hair - There's no need for that. You can cope. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1415 Registered: 8-2006 |
I can't think of anymore poets, so... Is the title relevant at all? Booklover, I feel the same and I think this puzzle is to blame it's too confusing of right now Really Hope it gets clearer somehow! | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1570 Registered: 6-2006 |
So is this poet/novelist more well known for his poetry? or for his novels? | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1597 Registered: 2-2005 |
Flibberty-gibberty Woubit (that's David Burn,) sets puzzles so fiendish his solvers despair. Answering questions, he's veteratorian; "Sufficient Vague Values"... and we tear our hair. More on our mysterious poet: What century did he live in? before the 17th? 17th? 18th? 19th? 20th? 21st? | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 848 Registered: 9-2003 |
Wild guess time! Shakespeare? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 72 Registered: 5-2007 |
Crazypalpig I can't think of anymore poets, so... Is the title relevant at all? the significance of the title has been thoroughly explored - its only purpose was to turn your minds in the direction of poetry Booklover, I feel the same and I think this puzzle is to blame it's too confusing of right now Really Hope it gets clearer somehow! Fear not, O crazy porcine friend, You're bound to get there in the end. A hint might help: perhaps you should Forget the trees, and seek the wood. Beccaann So is this poet/novelist more well known for his poetry? this one or for his novels? Rabrab Flibberty-gibberty Woubit (that's David Burn,) sets puzzles so fiendish his solvers despair. Answering questions, he's veteratorian; "Sufficient Vague Values"... and we tear our hair. Barbara Bailey has hit on a metre that makes composition much harder to do. Concentrate hard on this sesquipedalian verse form - you'll find there a palpable clue. More on our mysterious poet: What century did he live in? before the 17th? 17th? 18th? 19th? 20th? this one 21st? Haenlomal Wild guess time! Shakespeare? I fear not | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 619 Registered: 4-2007 |
hmmm...Everyone I think of is either American-born or English (but born before the 20th century). don't know if anyone has asked, but is the poet a man or a woman? could it be kipling? (though he is probably more famous for his novels, I would think...) wordsworth--woodsworth? : ) would it be considered cheating to skim through some of my books of poetry??? that's it for me... I'd better skittledeedee and dash off to think of more ? for you! | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 73 Registered: 5-2007 |
hmmm...Everyone I think of is either American-born or English (but born before the 20th century). don't know if anyone has asked, but is the poet a man this one or a woman? could it be kipling? it could, in an alternative universe, but not in this one (though he is probably more famous for his novels, I would think...) wordsworth--woodsworth? : ) no, but good thinking would it be considered cheating to skim through some of my books of poetry??? certainly not - reference aids may be used freely on all woubit puzzles | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1598 Registered: 2-2005 |
Well, let's see, It called a double dactyl; It's really difficult to make one scan properly; It's even more difficult to write one that's weighty. The dactylic foot is LA-da-da; Is the poem we're in search of a double dactyl itself? Has the poet? (or the poem?) been the subject of a noted double dactyl? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 621 Registered: 4-2007 |
alfred noyes? he wrote "the highwayman"one of my favorite poems or.... william watson? edgar a. guest? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 451 Registered: 6-2007 |
D. H. Lawrence? pre - British revival? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 71 Registered: 8-2007 |
we're told to seek the wood, and forget about trees, he gives out some clues but they're only to tease. the puzzle is 'overweight', and i understand we must find a poem that is weightless, yet overweight in one aspect? since we're seeking a specific poem, are you saying we should concentrate on genres and styles rather than poets and poems? is the poet most well known for composing poems that are... narrative? lyric? prose? satyrical? humourous? tragic? and to throw a couple of WAGs on the end of this, Spike Milligan? Roald Dahl? alas i just found the part where you said he is more well known for his poetry than his novels Over this puzzle, i do curse the challenge of finding a single verse. Simpler it is, to rhyme with woubit, that i can do, indubit ably. apologies if i mispronounced woubit, but i claim a weightless poetical license. Never mind about the fifth line shenanigans. | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 74 Registered: 5-2007 |
Rabrab Well, let's see, It's called a double dactyl; It's really difficult to make one scan properly; It's even more difficult to write one that's weighty. The dactylic foot is LA-da-da; indeed. The double dactyl, or "higgledy-piggledy", was created by the American poets Anthony Hecht, Paul Pascal and John Hollander in the 1950s (Pascal was Swiss by birth). Strictly, a double dactyl should: begin with a nonsense phrase; be biographical; and contain (at least) one line consisting of a single word. The form is not designed for weighty poetry, although it may of course deal with serious matters: Higgledy piggledy Jesus of Nazareth, Faced with the task of the Saving of Man, Gazed at the world with a Teleological Sigh, and said "Father, I'll Do what I can." Is the poem we're in search of a double dactyl itself? not the poem... Has the poet? (or the poem?) been the subject of a noted double dactyl? not as far as I know Booklover alfred noyes? he wrote "the highwayman"one of my favorite poems or.... william watson? edgar a. guest? none of these, but bonus marks for good taste Sixtyeight D. H. Lawrence? no, but good thinking pre - British revival? I am not sure in what era you consider the "British revival" to have taken place. British poetry has not, as far as I am aware, ever needed reviving - since the time of Langland, it has been in excellent health. A bunch of long-haired layabouts created something called the "British Modern Revival" in the late 1960s, but apart from one or two reasonable poems by Roy Fisher and Christopher Logue, this produced nothing of lasting merit. The author of the poem that is the subject of this puzzle would not have been seen dead in the British Modern Revival. Suido we're told to seek the wood, and forget about trees, he gives out some clues but they're only to tease. I have no desire to tease - My clues are intended to ease Your search for the wood. It would also be good If before that, you managed to sneeze. the puzzle is 'overweight', and i understand we must find a poem that is weightless, yet overweight in one aspect? exactly so since we're seeking a specific poem, are you saying we should concentrate on genres and styles rather than poets and poems? any approach may help - one can never tell is the poet most well known for composing poems that are... narrative? lyric? prose? satyrical? humourous? tragic? he has composed poems in all of these categories and to throw a couple of WAGs on the end of this, Spike Milligan? Roald Dahl? but he was not either of these poets alas i just found the part where you said he is more well known for his poetry than his novels Over this puzzle, i do curse the challenge of finding a single verse. Simpler it is, to rhyme with woubit, that i can do, indubit ably. apologies if i mispronounced woubit, but i claim a weightless poetical license. Never mind about the fifth line shenanigans. I don't mind in the least. "woubit" is indeed pronounced as you surmise, and bonus marks for a most ingenious rhyme. | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 452 Registered: 6-2007 |
Search for the wood.... is he George Barker? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 75 Registered: 5-2007 |
Search for the wood.... is he George Barker? no, but bonus marks for even having heard of George Barker | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 77 Registered: 8-2007 |
After series of achoo's reminiscent of bad 'flu's, a name came to me, as plain as could be: Poet laureate Ted Hughes? Blistering barnacle, six-six-six-four times two: the syllabic meter gives us a clue? Or did Nameless Poet devise double dactyls incriminatingly? Tell me it's true. | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1599 Registered: 2-2005 |
Is the man's name a double dactyl? a dactyl? Gilbert Keith Chesterton? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 76 Registered: 5-2007 |
Suido After series of achoo's reminiscent of bad 'flu's, a name came to me, as plain as could be: Poet laureate Ted Hughes? no, but here is some weightless poetry about Ted Hughes, who once remarked that "the progress of any writer is marked by those moments when he manages to outwit his own inner police system". To the tune of "A Policeman's Lot" by Arthur Sullivan: I once was a policeman young and merry, Controlling crowds and fighting petty crime, But I'm now engaged on matters literary, And I am growing old before my time. For the imagination of a writer Is not the kind of beat a chap would choose, And they've assigned me a prolific blighter - I'm patrolling the subconscious of Ted Hughes. It's not the kind of beat a chap would choose, Patrolling the subconscious of Ted Hughes. All our leave was cancelled in the lambing season When bitter winter froze the drinking trough, For as our commander stated with good reason, That's just the kind of thing that starts him off. But anything with four legs causes trouble, It's worse than organising several zoos - Not to mention mythic creatures in the rubble - Patrolling the subconscious of Ted Hughes. It's worse than organising several zoos, Patrolling the subconscious of Ted Hughes. Now although it's disagreeable and stressful Attempting to arrest poetic thought, I could boast of times when I have been successful, And conspiring compound epithets were caught. But the poetry statistics in this sector Are enough to make a copper turn to booze, And I don't think I shall make it to Inspector Patrolling the subconscious of Ted Hughes. It's enough to make a copper turn to booze, Patrolling the subconscious of Ted Hughes. Wendy Cope Blistering barnacle, six-six-six-four times two: the syllabic meter gives us a clue? Or did Nameless Poet devise double dactyls incriminatingly? Tell me it's true. Higgledy piggledy Suido the Lateral guessed at a poet who might fit the bill. Hughes and our hero were contemporaneous, but the unknown is anonymous still. Rabrab Is the man's name a double dactyl? yes a dactyl? well, his first name is a dactyl, and so is his surname Gilbert Keith Chesterton? no, but bonus marks for mentioning another of the puzzle setter's favourite poets. | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 622 Registered: 4-2007 |
I was hoping the poet was ted hughes-- though I've read nothing of his, alas. some of his poetry I need to peruse... I've heard he was such a gas! | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1600 Registered: 2-2005 |
Fol de la, Fol de la Siegfried Lorraine Sassoon Lots of his poems are gloomy and dark. He may have written some agravitational verses; I can't find them. ...I'm off to the park. | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 80 Registered: 8-2007 |
My knowledge of English poets is done. Adding those dactylic limitations reduces my ideas to, well, none. It's time for some new inspirations! I'll not find the answers in poetry, There is another route I can explore: Novels and prose are more my cup of tea, From this field I hope to learn somewhat more. Did he write essays, or tomes bombastic? Record historic facts, or tell tall tales? Fiction? Sci-fi, of things quite fantastic? Or things mundane, like doco's on snails? I'll list them all below, plus some extra. Oh dear, no rhyme! Quick, insert fenestra. So, did he write any weighty or famous... essays? short stories? novellas? novels? scripts? for television? radio? stage? movie? comedy? tragedy? crime? non-fiction? sci-fi? fantasy? reviews? critiques? letters? diaries? Booklover, that was terribly rude. I thought this a thread of wit and rhyme When you say something so awfully crude, Just as we were oven such a good time. ;-) | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 77 Registered: 5-2007 |
Booklover I was hoping the poet was ted hughes-- though I've read nothing of his, alas. some of his poetry I need to peruse... I've heard he was such a gas! For years a secret shame destroyed my peace - I'd not read Eliot, Auden or Macneice. But now I think a thought that brings me hope: Neither had Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, Pope. Rabrab Fol de la, Fol de la Siegfried Lorraine Sassoon Lots of his poems are gloomy and dark. He may have written some agravitational verses; I can't find them. ...I'm off to the park. Higgledy piggledy Siegfried Sassoon, though he isn't the man you are seeking, alas, does have a name with some memorability - must have been close between that and Alsace. | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 78 Registered: 5-2007 |
So, did he write any weighty or famous... I should say here that although I have described this author as "reasonably well known", his reputation is not that of a Shakespeare or a Dickens. To recap what you have discovered: he was an Englishman by birth who lived during the twentieth century and spent some considerable time in the United States - I will give you the further information that he became an American citizen and lived in that country for the second half of his life. A few of his works achieved world-wide fame in one way or another, though it is entirely possible that you have heard of the work without knowing the identity of its author. Most of his work, though, is not known at all to the general public - but here in the LTPF, we are not the general public. The description "famous" should be taken in that context. essays? yes short stories? yes novellas? yes novels? yes scripts? for television? radio? stage? movie? he certainly wrote some plays and some screenplays; I do not know whether he wrote for television or radio comedy? yes tragedy? yes crime? not as far as I am aware non-fiction? yes sci-fi? not as far as I am aware fantasy? yes, for svv of "fantasy" reviews? critiques? yes letters? yes diaries? yes | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1576 Registered: 6-2006 |
Higgledy piggledy Sherlock and Watson had never a mystery tougher than this. So many poets are eliminatable; I can't find one, though, that I can't dismiss. | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1602 Registered: 2-2005 |
Harking back to Sixty-eight, on August twenty-third, He asked if "red" was aught we sought; You said 'twas not absurd. So is it "Red" as in "red scare" Or "Commie Pinko Freak"? Was he a spendthrift, in the red? A rake, red lights to seek? "Red tape," "Red dwarf" or "Thin red line" a clerk, stargazer, soldier-man Each indicate in turn. (I'm flailing here; I have no plan.) Another color matters, too, At least you so told Lynne. Is that one blue, or leafy green? Or silver, the color of tin? Yellow, tan or burnt sienna? Orange, ochre, purple? Indigo, violet, black, or pink? Or brown, like maple surple? Bet you wondered how I was going to rhyme purple, didn't you? I stole it from Roger Miller. | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 79 Registered: 5-2007 |
Harking back to Sixty-eight, on August twenty-third, He asked if "red" was aught we sought; You said 'twas not absurd. So is it "Red" as in "red scare" Or "Commie Pinko Freak"? Was he a spendthrift, in the red? A rake, red lights to seek? "Red tape," "Red dwarf" or "Thin red line" a clerk, stargazer, soldier-man Each indicate in turn. (I'm flailing here; I have no plan.) An editor will oft employ a commonplace utensil to strike a word that might annoy - his trusty bright red pencil. Another color matters, too, At least you so told Lynne. Is that one blue, or leafy green? Or silver, the color of tin? The heralds call it azure, but the likes of me and you, in contexts where we talk of smut, refer to it as blue. Yellow, tan or burnt sienna? Orange, ochre, purple? Indigo, violet, black, or pink? Or brown, like maple surple? I should like to record here my admiration for the considerable poetic talent displayed by everyone who has taken part in this silly puzzle. It is good to know that weightless verse is alive and well and living in the Lateral Thinking Puzzles Forum. | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 80 Registered: 5-2007 |
Higgledy piggledy Sherlock and Watson had never a mystery tougher than this. So many poets are eliminatable; I can't find one, though, that I can't dismiss. Bakery cakery "Watson", said Sherlock, "just how many times have I mentioned to you: once you eliminate impossibilities, that which remains must be utterly true?" | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 623 Registered: 4-2007 |
i just couldn't figure it so i cheated a bit and googled a lit- tle before i give a guess put my mind at rest at let me know if it is all right to share what i found tonight... i don't usually like to google on the ltpf, but I couldn't figure this one out! i don't want to make anyone who is working on this upset--let me know if I should give a guess here, or email you my guess.... | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1577 Registered: 6-2006 |
Goodness gracious, I've Googled galore! And to no avail, I can Google no more! If you think you've an answer, By me it's all right If you share it, or I'll have to Google all night. I wonder if I, in my Googling quest Came upon the answer, But my brain needed rest and I skimmed it right over if so, woe is me 'Cause this mystery poet Is BAFFLING ME!!!! | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 81 Registered: 5-2007 |
i don't usually like to google on the ltpf, but I couldn't figure this one out! i don't want to make anyone who is working on this upset--let me know if I should give a guess here, or email you my guess.... My apologies for having occasioned any over-exertion. As I've said, reference aids (including Google) may freely be used in all woubit puzzles, and results freely shared. If Booklover has a guess, let her by all means post it here. | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 624 Registered: 4-2007 |
i'll put my guess in white (but I did just realize that I don't think this man did any poetry! and now I'm not sure his name is a double-dactyl....hmmm....maybe I'll google some more, but I'm going out for a bit)...ok my guess is gavin lambert--born england, moved hollywood--he did do novels, screenplays etc--and he is writing a novel on Natalie Wood.looking at woods instead of trees!back to the drawing board! need to give my brain a rest--I'm with Beccaann--I keep dismissing people instead of coming up with them! | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 82 Registered: 5-2007 |
back to the drawing board! need to give my brain a rest--I'm with Beccaann--I keep dismissing people instead of coming up with them! The author you seek has a great deal in common with the author at whom you have guessed. He was born in England and moved to Hollywood, and although he did not write very much poetry, he had a close lifelong association with one of the greatest poets of the twentieth century. Moreover, his name is a true double dactyl. | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1578 Registered: 6-2006 |
Ok, here's another angle: Are any of these the first name of our poet? Timothy? Samuel? Theodore? Abraham? Adrian? Avery? Benjamin? Cameron? Christopher? Elliott? Jeremy? Jonathan? Joshua? Nicholas? Anthony? Damien? Dominic? Frederick? Gregory? Madison? Mario? Oliver? William? Gabriel? Raphael? Reginald? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 83 Registered: 5-2007 |
Are any of these the first name of our poet? Timothy? Samuel? Theodore? Abraham? Adrian? Avery? Benjamin? Cameron? Christopher? this one - good angle Elliott? Jeremy? Jonathan? Joshua? Nicholas? Anthony? Damien? Dominic? Frederick? Gregory? Madison? Mario? Oliver? William? Gabriel? Raphael? Reginald? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1579 Registered: 6-2006 |
Christopher Isherwood? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 84 Registered: 5-2007 |
Christopher Isherwood? exactly and precisely so - well done | ||
| Blazingphoenix (Blazingphoenix)
New member Username: Blazingphoenix Post Number: 147 Registered: 2-2007 |
Woubit you meanie, Your puzzle's too hard! I've been trying to solve, but my brain feels like lard! ;^D Drat... I was thinking along the lines of Robert Frost, although I don't think he did anything weightless... I still don't think I understand the meaning of weightless poetry. You said "looking at wood instead of the trees", so I thought maybe it was him because of His two famous poems, "Stopping by the Woods on a Snowy Evening", and "The Road Not Taken". Well shoot! Well, now that we know his first (and probably last) name, what else do we need to solve? | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1603 Registered: 2-2005 |
Now, I believe we need to find out the poem that Woubit has in mind, and then from there, I believe we need to figure out how a piece of weightless poetry can be overweight. Oh, and there's some sort of connection to the etymology of a word in there, too. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1422 Registered: 8-2006 |
Darn. Leave for 2 days, and the puzzle jumped 30 posts! When I was young and wanted to see the sights, They told me: 'Cast an eye over the Roman Camp If you care to. But plan to spend most of your day at the Aquarium - Because, after all, the Aquarium - Well, I mean to say, the Aquarium - Till you've seen the Aquarium you ain't seen nothing.' So I cast my eye over The Roman Camp - And that old Roman Camp, That old, old Roman Camp Got me Interested. So that now, near closing-time, I find that I still know nothing - And am still not even sorry that I know nothing - About fish. I found this thingy about Christopher's poetry... | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1605 Registered: 2-2005 |
The common cormorant (or sha g) Lays eggs inside a paper bag, You follow the idea, no doubt? It's to keep the lightning out. But what these unobservant birds Have never thought of, is that herds Of wandering bears might come with buns And steal the bags to hold the crumbs. Hi Diddle Hey Diddle, Christopher Isherwood This is so odd that he Couldn't be joking. Musings so layered, such metaphilosophy, So much to think about; I want what he's smoking. | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 85 Registered: 5-2007 |
That will do admirably as a *********** SPOILER *********** In another puzzle on this forum, I read that cormorants were supposed to be highly intelligent birds because they could count to seven. I attempted to post a message to the effect that although the intelligence of cormorants was considerable, their powers of observation were somewhat limited - citing as a reference that well-known ornithologist Christopher Isherwood, whose treatise on the subject appears above in Rabrab's message. Like Rabrab, however, I encountered a difficulty. Although "sh*g" is a perfectly innocent word in terms of being another name for the cormorant, it is not so regarded by the LTPF software, which replaces it with four blobs thus: ••••. Thus the piece of weightless poetry I was attempting to quote turned out to be, at least as far as the LTPF Board of Censors is concerned, overweight. Thanks to all who joined in this silly puzzle and contributed some fine specimens of weightless poetry. | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1606 Registered: 2-2005 |
I must admit I was still miles away from putting together the fact that the LTPF editor didn't approve of "sha g" with your red pencil=editing / blue=smut clues. I was thinking more of a soi disant 'literary critic' of my acquaintance who would absolutely wet himself with excitement if he were given a chance to analyze "The Cormorant". To me, it's amusing, but arrant nonsense; to him, it would be fodder for at least a five-page paper. Nonetheless, Bravo!! to Woubit for an excellent puzzle! | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2033 Registered: 2-2001 |
I was trying to use the word once in the context of picking up golf or tennis balls when I encountered that particular piece of censorship, and that was a few years back - I think it's Mike Myer's fault. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 632 Registered: 1-2007 |
Woubit you're a great puzzler indeed, As many I'm sure have agreed, Even though I wasn't playing, I can't keep from saying, This puzzle was a cracking good read. | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3314 Registered: 12-2000 |
lesbian | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3315 Registered: 12-2000 |
Oops! - I hit the send button instead of cancel! I better explain - The reason I put that there was that on Friends Reunited, at one point, that word was a forbidden word, and I was curious to see whether it was a red blob word here. Someone had used the word on FR just to explain the subject of her thesis. Go figure.... | ||
| Mosquito (Mosquito)
New member Username: Mosquito Post Number: 425 Registered: 4-2005 |
Who is Mike Myer? Is he someone campaigning against obscenity on the internet? | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1609 Registered: 2-2005 |
No, Mike Myers and the Austin Powers movies greatly increased the use of 'sha g' to mean 'have intercourse with'. | ||
| Mosquito (Mosquito)
New member Username: Mosquito Post Number: 427 Registered: 4-2005 |
Did they really? I have heard of the movie, but have not noticed any difference in usage. Not in London, anyway. |
