| Author | Message | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 116 Registered: 8-2007 |
Arthur heard it correctly (how could he not?), but he didn't understand it. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 28 Registered: 9-2007 |
Arthur --> h? a? m? first it = second it ? if so, it = something someone said? The two he's in the puzzle are Arthur right? When you say 'heard it correctly' do you mean he heard it clearly, but it made no sense to him? So was it a language he didn't understand? Does the title suggest some significance of the name 'Arthur' ? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 118 Registered: 8-2007 |
Arthur --> h? a? m? yes to all first it = second it ? yes if so, it = something someone said? yes The two he's in the puzzle are Arthur right? yes When you say 'heard it correctly' do you mean he heard it clearly, but it made no sense to him? yes So was it a language he didn't understand? NO!!! Does the title suggest some significance of the name 'Arthur' ?both the title and the name arthur are significant, but not related | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 621 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is the title relevant because it hints that Arthur's name is relevant? Or is there more to it? Was it a name that he ddn't understand? Is Shakespeare relevant? A famous Arthur? King Arthur? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 121 Registered: 8-2007 |
Is the title relevant because it hints that Arthur's name is relevant? Or is there more to it? there is more to it, the hint about Arthur's name was unintentional since the other relevance is far more important to the puzzle Was it a name that he ddn't understand? yes Is Shakespeare relevant? no A famous Arthur? yes, he should be known to members of this forum.King Arthur?no | ||
| Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant Post Number: 6 Registered: 9-2007 |
Arthur heard a name that he didn't understand, right? Did someone shout a name out loud to him? Did he hear a name that in some way is synonymous to his, but he didn't understand how? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 127 Registered: 8-2007 |
Arthur heard a name that he didn't understand, right?yes Did someone shoutno a name out loud to him?yes to everything except shout. Did he hear a name that in some way is synonymous to his, but he didn't understand how?no | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 47 Registered: 9-2007 |
Arthur Conan Doyle? | ||
| Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant Post Number: 11 Registered: 9-2007 |
Did the person who said the name out loud to him want to call out to Arthur? Or did he overhear the person calling someone else? Was he meant to overhear the name? Did the name not make sense to him because the speaker had an accent of some sort? (ok, long shot, I know :-D) | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 137 Registered: 8-2007 |
Arthur Conan Doyle?no Did the person who said the name out loud to him want to call out to Arthur?IRR Or did he overhear the person calling someone else? IRR Was he meant to overhear the name? IRR, the other person is only relevant for saying the name. If no one had said it, there wouldn't be a puzzle. And then we'd all be sad :-( Did the name not make sense to him because the speaker had an accent of some sort? (ok, long shot, I know :-D)no | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 905 Registered: 9-2003 |
arthur c clarke? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 140 Registered: 8-2007 |
arthur c clarke? no | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 641 Registered: 4-2007 |
was it a homonym of arthur? perhaps author? or are we looking for the name arthur? was it a famous arthur? was it a real arthur or fictional? if fictional, from a book? movie? arthur ashe? arthur the aardvark (from children's picture books)? did arthur think someone was speaking to him? about him? to someone else? about someone else? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 143 Registered: 8-2007 |
was it a homonym of arthur? no perhaps author? no or are we looking for the name arthur? no was it a famous arthur? yes was it a real arthur or fictional? fictional if fictional, from a book? movie? both arthur ashe? no arthur the aardvark (from children's picture books)? no did arthur think someone was speaking to him? yes, and he was correct about him?no to someone else?no about someone else?no | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 70 Registered: 9-2007 |
Arthur Weasley? (From Harry Potter) | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 147 Registered: 8-2007 |
Arthur Weasley? (From Harry Potter) no | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 78 Registered: 9-2007 |
Arthur Dent? (I love Douglas Adams btw) | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 150 Registered: 8-2007 |
Arthur Dent? YES (I love Douglas Adams btw) he's not so bad... :-P | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 84 Registered: 9-2007 |
The Babel fish involved? (but you did say no to languages so I think not... worth a try though) Did he hear the name of another character in "The Hitchiker's Guide?" If so, any of these? Ford Prefect? Trillian? Zaphod Beeblebrox? Marvin? Slartibartfast? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 151 Registered: 8-2007 |
The Babel fish involved? YES(but you did say no to languages so I think not... worth a try though) always is Did he hear the name of another character in "The Hitchiker's Guide?" no | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 95 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was it in his ear? If it wasn't in his ear, doesn't that mean that it was an alien (eg. Vogon) that had said the name, but he didn't understand it? If it was in his ear, wouldn't he have been able to understand it? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 153 Registered: 8-2007 |
Was it in his ear? yes If it wasn't in his ear, doesn't that mean that it was an alien (eg. Vogon) that had said the name, but he didn't understand it? IRR, see above If it was in his ear, wouldn't he have been able to understand it? yope | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 102 Registered: 9-2007 |
K what I remember is, if the babel fish is in your ear, it does some weird brain wave regurgitation that ends in you being able to understand stuff people say to you in other languages. Right? So what I am assuming is, Arthur was able to hear it perfectly well, the sound of it was exact and coherent, but he didn't understand it. Right? I'm stumped again... lateral limbo >.< | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 162 Registered: 8-2007 |
K what I remember is, if the babel fish is in your ear, it does some weird brain wave regurgitation that ends in you being able to understand stuff people say to you in other languages. Right? yes So what I am assuming is, Arthur was able to hear it perfectly well, the sound of it was exact and coherent, but he didn't understand it. Right? yes I'm stumped again... lateral limbo >.< | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 105 Registered: 9-2007 |
I'm guessing now all we have to do is identify what he heard? If the babel fish wasn't in his ear, and someone had said the 'translated' version to him, would he have still not understood? Is it likely, that anyone in Arthur's position would have also not understood what they heard? What's confusing is, even names like Slartibartfast make no real sense, it's just a name though. What's to understand in a name? Is there some problem or catch with the Babel fish, that makes it unable to 'decode' certain languages or sounds? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 167 Registered: 8-2007 |
I'm guessing now all we have to do is identify what he heard? yes, though the name itself won't make it apparent why he didn't understand, there is one other aspect If the babel fish wasn't in his ear, and someone had said the 'translated' version to him, would he have still not understood? yes. there are factors here worth exploring Is it likely, that anyone in Arthur's position would have also not understood what they heard? yes. I only used Arthur because I needed the babelfish in the puzzle, and his name was a little less obvious than Ford or Zaphod. What's confusing is, even names like Slartibartfast make no real sense, it's just a name though. What's to understand in a name? not a yes/no question. I'm enjoying your confusion. :-P Is there some problem or catch with the Babel fish, that makes it unable to 'decode' certain languages or sounds? no | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 919 Registered: 9-2003 |
so can I just check something, was all he heard one name? nothing else? was the name someone he knew? was it his name? was it the name of someone physically near to him? was the name of someone male? human? adult? | ||
| Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant Post Number: 44 Registered: 9-2007 |
Did he have to understand the name to do something? Is it relevant why the name was said to him? Was he supposed to respond to the name in some manner? if yes, would he be able to respond only if he "understood" the name? Or the meaning of the name? Or something else that is denoted by the name? Is it relevant where he is? Is he in a dangerous situation? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 171 Registered: 8-2007 |
so can I just check something, yes was all he heard one name? one name is all that is relevant nothing else? no was the name someone he knew? FA was it his name? no was it the name of someone physically near to him? FA was the name of someone male? FA human? no adult? FA | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 172 Registered: 8-2007 |
Did he have to understand the name to do something? no Is it relevant why the name was said to him? no Was he supposed to respond to the name in some manner? no if yes, would he be able to respond only if he "understood" the name? Or the meaning of the name? Or something else that is denoted by the name? He was perfectly capable of responding, and probably would've said "What?" However, you have touched on something relevant. Is it relevant where he is? yes Is he in a dangerous situation? no | ||
| Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant Post Number: 46 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was the name said to him for a reason? Is it relevant what that reason is? Is it the name of a person, place, thing, animal? (I'm sorry if this has been asked before... I'm too sleepy to go over the posts again!) | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 174 Registered: 8-2007 |
Was the name said to him for a reason? IRR Is it relevant what that reason is? IRR Is it the name of a person, place, thing, animal? It is the name of a place, and a thing (I'm sorry if this has been asked before... I'm too sleepy to go over the posts again!)it hasn't, and i'm surprised it's taken this long for such an obvious question | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 922 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it the name of a real place? on earth? is the name earth? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 181 Registered: 8-2007 |
s it the name of a real place? yes on earth? yes is the name earth?no | ||
| Elness (Elness)
New member Username: Elness Post Number: 12 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is the name Eddie? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 183 Registered: 8-2007 |
Is the name Eddie? no | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 924 Registered: 9-2003 |
is the place in Asia? Africa? North America? South America? Antarctica? Europe? Australia? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 188 Registered: 8-2007 |
is the place in Asia? Africa? North America? South America? Antarctica? Europe? Australia? Australia, but this is old news... | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 189 Registered: 8-2007 |
is the place in Asia? Africa? North America? South America? Antarctica? Europe? Australia? Europe and this is new news!!!!! AAAAAAARRRRGGGHHHH BLOOOOOOOOOPER. Sorry, getting my puzzles mixed for the first, and hopefully the last. The previous answer should be EUROPE EUROPE EUROPE Sorry Damia | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 928 Registered: 9-2003 |
lol ok then!! is the place any of these? or in any of these? Austria Belgium Bulgaria Cyprus Czech Republic Denmark Estonia Finland France Germany Greece Hungary Ireland Italy Latvia Lithuania Luxembourg Malta Netherlands Poland Portugal Romania Slovakia Slovenia Spain Sweden United Kingdom | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 193 Registered: 8-2007 |
United Kingdom | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 929 Registered: 9-2003 |
is UK the name? or is it in the UK? if so is it in wales? scotland? england? ireland? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 196 Registered: 8-2007 |
it's in the UK, in England to be more precise. | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 648 Registered: 4-2007 |
so we are looking for a name of a place in England that can also be a thing? could it be... Bath? Eye? Leek? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 198 Registered: 8-2007 |
so we are looking for a name of a place in England yes that can also be a thing? not exactly could it be... Bath? no Eye? no Leek? no | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1029 Registered: 3-2006 |
Are we looking for a one-word English town whose name is also: a verb? an adjective? an adverb? a proper noun? Would the name of the town be acceptable in (English) Scrabble? Does the name of the town sound similar to another relevant word in another language? Is the town north of Birmingham? South of Birmingham? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 208 Registered: 8-2007 |
Are we looking for a one-word English town whose name is also: a verb? an adjective? an adverb? a proper noun? Would the name of the town be acceptable in (English) Scrabble? Does the name of the town sound similar to another relevant word in another language? no to all, even disregarding the big FA Is the town north of Birmingham? South of Birmingham? Again FA, but the place you seek is in fact north of Brum | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 930 Registered: 9-2003 |
is the place a city? town? village? local landmark? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 210 Registered: 8-2007 |
is the place a city? no town? no village? to be perfectly accurate, there is also a village named for... local landmark? one of these, and it was the name of one of these that Arthur heard. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 933 Registered: 9-2003 |
only landmarks I can think of right now are Blackpool/Blackpool tower? or the Angel of the North, tho I'm not sure about a village named after either of those | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 212 Registered: 8-2007 |
only landmarks I can think of right now are Blackpool/Blackpool tower? or the Angel of the North, tho I'm not sure about a village named after either of those No to both | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 943 Registered: 9-2003 |
ok still can't think of any, so which of these places is it closest to: Leicester? Nottingham? Sheffield? Manchester? Leeds? York? Blackpool? Liverpool? is it close to the Scottish border? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 217 Registered: 8-2007 |
Leicester? Nottingham? Sheffield? Manchester? Leeds? York? Blackpool? Liverpool? is it close to the Scottish border? tis closer to the Scottish border than it is to any of the cities you listed | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1034 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it the Tyne Bridge? Bamburgh Castle? Hadrian's Wall? Lindisfarne Priory? Holy Island? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 547 Registered: 6-2001 |
Parachuting in here but would it be Chester-le- Street? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 218 Registered: 8-2007 |
Is it the Tyne Bridge? Bamburgh Castle? Hadrian's Wall? Lindisfarne Priory? Holy Island? none of these Parachuting in here but would it be Chester-le- Street? welcome, but it wouldn't | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 955 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it Cumbria way? Northumberland? Durham? Tyne and Wear? Teeside? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 560 Registered: 6-2001 |
Berwick on Tweed? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 219 Registered: 8-2007 |
is it Cumbria way? yes Northumberland? Durham? Tyne and Wear? Teeside? no to rest Berwick on Tweed? no | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 593 Registered: 6-2001 |
So did the babel fish make it into "Come Be away" ? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1037 Registered: 3-2006 |
The Old Man of Coniston? Scafell Pike [fishy]? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 221 Registered: 8-2007 |
So did the babel fish make it into "Come Be away" ? No. Just for clarification, the place/thing named is IN Cumbria The Old Man of Coniston? Scafell Pike [fishy]? neither of these | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 973 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it a national park? a castle? fort? Windermere? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1041 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it actually a lake? Or a structure of some sort? Is it man-made? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 222 Registered: 8-2007 |
is it a national park? a castle? fort? Windermere? none of these Is it actually a lake? Or a structure of some sort? Is it man-made? and none of these | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1042 Registered: 3-2006 |
A mountain? The Pike of Blisco? Skiddaw? Helvellyn? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 226 Registered: 9-2007 |
I went to Betws-Y-Coed on a geography trip with nug nd done!! | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 227 Registered: 9-2007 |
err was that relevant at all (saw that posted in wikipedia under Bowness-on-Windermere lol... made no sense to me so thought maybe Arthur didn't get it either) | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 646 Registered: 6-2001 |
Not unless Wales has suddenly been magically relocated... | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 979 Registered: 9-2003 |
lol @ Noob is it in Allerdale? Barrow-in-Furness? Carlisle? Copeland? Eden? or South Lakeland? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 223 Registered: 8-2007 |
A mountain? Noish The Pike of Blisco? Skiddaw? Helvellyn? None of these. I went to Betws-Y-Coed on a geography trip with nug nd done!! Bravo. Have a gold star. err was that relevant at all (saw that posted in wikipedia under Bowness-on-Windermere lol... made no sense to me so thought maybe Arthur didn't get it either) Well, it's whistled over the top of my head was well, even without the interference of a babelfish. I think it's safe to say IRR. Not unless Wales has suddenly been magically relocated... A whole pod? Or species? I think the whalers and the greens will unite in saying that relocation is a bad idea. Sorry about that. Should have stopped myself at the preview page. | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 650 Registered: 6-2001 |
Plaid Cymru might have something to say as well... Just to make sure that I am thinking along the right lines... Arthur heard the name of a place in Cumbria? but the Babelfish thought it was a foreign language and translated it? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 224 Registered: 8-2007 |
lol @ Noob indeed is it in Allerdale? Barrow-in-Furness? Carlisle? Copeland? Eden? or South Lakeland? Allerdale | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 225 Registered: 8-2007 |
Just to make sure that I am thinking along the right lines... Arthur heard the name of a place in Cumbria? Yes but the Babelfish thought it was a foreign language and translated it? Yope. This is ridiculously close to being solved. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 980 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it a hill? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 652 Registered: 6-2001 |
Aspatria? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 227 Registered: 8-2007 |
is it a hill? yes Aspatria? no | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 983 Registered: 9-2003 |
tute hill? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 657 Registered: 6-2001 |
Belle Vue? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 228 Registered: 8-2007 |
tute hill? no Belle Vue? and no | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 991 Registered: 9-2003 |
Wharrels Hill? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 252 Registered: 8-2007 |
Wharrels Hill? no. It might be worth exploring why Arthur couldn't understand the name, as Tsoram did above. There's a bit more to it than his summation. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 992 Registered: 9-2003 |
ok so did the Babel fish mistranslate it? change it into another language? does the name have a double meaning? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 782 Registered: 6-2001 |
was it a foreign name? or a name that is the native version of one that is different in English? Did Arthur hear a name? a meaningless phrase? Relevant what language the Babel fish thought it was translating from? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 266 Registered: 8-2007 |
ok so did the Babel fish mistranslate it? no change it into another language? yes, to english as that is what Arthur can understand does the name have a double meaning? no, not in a single language was it a foreign name? NO or a name that is the native version of one that is different in English? no Did Arthur hear a name? he heard the translated name, so yes a meaningless phrase? not meaningless, not entirely sure if it would count as a phrase as such Relevant what language the Babel fish thought it was translating from? to a certain extent, explore | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 993 Registered: 9-2003 |
so the alien said the name of this hill in its language? which was correctly translated into english? do we need to know why the alien said this name? had Arthur heard of this place before? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 274 Registered: 8-2007 |
so the alien what? alien? when? said the name of this hill in its language? definitely not which was correctly translated into english? do we need to know why the alien said this name? why the name was said is IRR had Arthur heard of this place before? arthur had never heard of this place, its only claim to fame is the reason for this puzzle. The whole alien thing is a FA (an FA?) | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 994 Registered: 9-2003 |
oh ok so a human said it in a different human language? and the fish correctly translated it? but something about the translation wasn't correct? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 803 Registered: 6-2001 |
OK...~Damia~ and I have different ideas... I thought the name was english, but capable of being mistaken for a combination (not necessarily a phrase) in a different language. The babel fish translated it faithfully into english, thus confusing Arthur... French? German? dutch? Norwegian? Scots Gaelic? Irish Gaelic? Manx gaelic? Welsh? Cornish? Spanish? Portugese? Italian? Latin? Greek? Indo European Language? Oh...does he hear something like river river? Mountain mountain? hill hill? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 275 Registered: 8-2007 |
Damia oh ok so a human said it in a different human language? and the fish correctly translated it? but something about the translation wasn't correct? hmm, tough questions to answer, the name was said in English, as it would be said by the residents of the village of the same name, but the babelfish decided to translate the name, and did a perfect job of translating Tsoram1970 OK...~Damia~ and I have different ideas... I thought the name was english, correct but capable of being mistaken for a combination (not necessarily a phrase) in a different language. yesish The babel fish translated it faithfully into english, thus confusing Arthur... this last part is perfect None of that list are correct, and probably not worth exploring possible languages, I'll be using google for that information when I $poil. There is one final, small piece of information which is required about the name, a possibility which has been overlooked so far. I've had to word many of my answers very carefully to avoid giving it away. Oh...does he hear something like river river? Mountain mountain? hill hill? YES, the last one, it is a hill after all. But that's not all he hears... | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 995 Registered: 9-2003 |
lol ok so just so I've got this straight, it takes this english name, assumes its in a different language and re-translates it into english? are we looking for 3 words its translated into? 4? 5? does the first hill come at the beginning? middle? does the second hill come at the end? are both hills together? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 276 Registered: 8-2007 |
lol ok so just so I've got this straight, it takes this english name, assumes its in a different language and re-translates it into english? YES are we looking for 3 words its translated into? 4? 5? 4 does the first hill come at the beginning? middle? does the second hill come at the end? are both hills together? yes to all. that should be a giveaway :-P | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1000 Registered: 9-2003 |
huh? hill hill hill hill??? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 284 Registered: 9-2007 |
Bah found it... through no skill of mine just so you know.... answer in ROT13 Gbecraubj Uvyy | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 285 Registered: 9-2007 |
Excellent puzzle though Suido! Thanks! | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 286 Registered: 9-2007 |
btw gz on 1000 posts damia :D ... looking fwd to a puzzle from you! | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1004 Registered: 9-2003 |
tx! didn't even notice!! :o) | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 655 Registered: 4-2007 |
Instead of actually being called Hillhill, is one of the words another name for hill (eg I heard about a hill called Penn Hill, Penn being (I think) an old english word for hill)? Was the translation from Old English (or Anglo Saxon, whatever it's called) into modern English? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1015 Registered: 9-2003 |
I'd imagine that the real name would have three parts all of which can seperately be translated as hill, followed by the real word hill so maybe if Penn was there something like PennPennPenn Hill - do we need to find the seperate bits? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 277 Registered: 8-2007 |
~damia~ Post Number: 1000 nice work huh? hill hill hill hill??? correct, this is what Arthur hears, and like you, he didn't understand it. Now all you have to do is get the name of the hill in question, or I can wrap it up... Noobdogg Bah found it... through no skill of mine just so you know.... answer in ROT13 Gbecraubj Uvyy Correct Excellent puzzle though Suido! Thanks! Thankyou Enjay Instead of actually being called Hillhill, is one of the words another name for hill yes (eg I heard about a hill called Penn Hill, Penn being (I think) an old english word for hill)? Was the translation from Old English (or Anglo Saxon, whatever it's called) into modern English? exactly, I'll explain more below ~damia~ I'd imagine that the real name would have three parts all of which can seperately be translated as hill, followed by the real word hill you would imagine correctly then so maybe if Penn was there something like PennPennPenn Hill - do we need to find the seperate bits? ___pen___ Hill is what you have so far, I can wrap this up unless you want to figure out the rest of the name, which you are doing a fine job of so far. The other two parts of the name do mean hill, one also in Old English, one in Celtic | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1027 Registered: 9-2003 |
acropolis, acclivity, ascent, bluff, butte, cliff, climb, cradle hill, down, drift, dune, elevation, eminence, esker, fell, foothill, gradient, headland, heap, height, highland, hillock, hilltop, hummock, inclination, incline, knoll, mesa, mound, mount, pile, precipice, prominence, promontory, protuberance, range, ridge, rise, rising ground, sastrugi, shock, slope, stack, summit, talus, tolt, tor, upland? me, copy from a dictionary, never!! :oD | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 278 Registered: 8-2007 |
acropolis, acclivity, ascent, bluff, butte, cliff, climb, cradle hill, down, drift, dune, elevation, eminence, esker, fell, foothill, gradient, headland, heap, height, highland, hillock, hilltop, hummock, inclination, incline, knoll, mesa, mound, mount, pile, precipice, prominence, promontory, protuberance, range, ridge, rise, rising ground, sastrugi, shock, slope, stack, summit, talus, tolt, tor, upland? Torpen___ Hill, I guess the last part is a little older than a never-copied from dictionary. :-) | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 827 Registered: 6-2001 |
slieve? Ben? cnoc? knock? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 279 Registered: 8-2007 |
slieve? Ben? cnoc? knock? none of these. If it's not solved by Monday I'll wrap it up, as it is now more of a guessing game than a riddle, and all the crucial details have been solved. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1042 Registered: 9-2003 |
oh well I typed in celtic word for hill into the search engine and one of the listings just happened to be for the full name of this place | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 280 Registered: 8-2007 |
right, bugger it, I'm *********SPOILING WITH A SPOILER******** Excellent work on this puzzle by Noobdogg, who nailed the Arthur Dent and babelfish parts, and Damia who puzzled through the rest alongside Tsoram who made the lateral leap to redundancies in names. Arthur Dent, with Babelfish in ear, hears the name Torpenhow Hill. The babelfish, in all its wisdom, recognises that Tor, Pen and How in this context are all different languages, so it translates them. This resulted in Arthur hearing Hillhillhill Hill, which he didn't understand. There is some debate as to the actual translation of these words, as pedantic nitpickers point out that a tor, a pen and a how are all types of hills, not simply hills. A hill is a hill (is a hill is a hill in this case), so I say this wonderful example of nominative redundancy is to be admired. This would most probably have come about by the local tribe calling their local hill "Hill"(Tor). The next bunch of people come along, probably with all sorts of nasty violence, and, hearing that the hill is called Tor, tack their own word for hill on the end: Tor Pen. And so on. Other examples of nominative redundancies are Paraguay (river river) River, Sahara Desert and the La Brea Tar Pits. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1046 Registered: 9-2003 |
nice puzzle there!!! |
