| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2553 Registered: 8-2001 |
White Cloud made a joke that wouldn't have been funny had she not been a Native American (or identifiably involved with Native Americans in some way). Under other circumstances the joke wouldn't have been offensive, it just would not have been funny. How come?? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 675 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was the joke about people? including herself? Are any objects involved in the joke? Should we find out the joke to solve the puzzle? Do we have to find out more? about White Cloud? about native Americans? Is it relevant when the joke was told? to whom? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2555 Registered: 8-2001 |
Tobasi (Tobasi) New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 675 Registered: 8-2006 Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 8:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was the joke about people?yesish including herself? yesish Are any objects involved in the joke? yope Should we find out the joke to solve the puzzle? yes--that is essential Do we have to find out more? yes about White Cloud? yesish about native Americans? no Is it relevant when the joke was told? possiblyto whom? yope | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 54 Registered: 9-2007 |
Did the joke have the word "Indian" in it? "Cowboy"? White Cloud --> h? a? Does it matter who she told the joke to? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 691 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is this a well known joke or type of joke ? such as a knock knock ? how many ...does it take to change a lightbulb? Why did the chicken cross the road? Would it be considered an oldie? is it likely that most members of the forum would have heard this joke? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 141 Registered: 8-2007 |
was the joke made as part of a conversation? as an answer to a question? as a story? was there any physical comedy involved? integral? or peripheral? Was the joke told in the present day? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2560 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg) New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 54 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 5:23 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did the joke have the word "Indian" in it? no "Cowboy"? no White Cloud --> h? yes a? possibly Does it matter who she told the joke to? yope Peter365 (Peter365) New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 691 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 12:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is this a well known joke or type of joke ? no such as a knock knock ? no how many ...does it take to change a lightbulb? no Why did the chicken cross the road? noWould it be considered an oldie? no is it likely that most members of the forum would have heard this joke? no Suido (Suido) New member Username: Suido Post Number: 141 Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 4:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) was the joke made as part of a conversation?yes as an answer to a question? irrel as a story? irrel was there any physical comedy involved? no integral? or peripheral? Was the joke told in the present day? yes | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1097 Registered: 6-2001 |
If she was, say, Australian aborigine, might there have been some slight variation on the joke that would have been funny? If she was French? Jewish? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 92 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was it something to do with living in a teepee? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 176 Registered: 8-2007 |
was it a pun? a pair of teepees - two tents/too tense? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2563 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1097 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 2:35 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) If she was, say, Australian aborigine, might there have been some slight variation on the joke that would have been funny? no If she was French? no Jewish? no Noobdogg (Noobdogg) New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 92 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 5:43 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was it something to do with living in a teepee? no Suido (Suido) New member Username: Suido Post Number: 176 Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 12:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) was it a pun?yesish a pair of teepees - two tents/too tense? no | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 187 Registered: 8-2007 |
does it involve any of these words - red? indian? native? does it involve a nations name? sioux? mohawk? comanche? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 133 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was it something like, wonder why they named me "White Cloud" ! | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2565 Registered: 8-2001 |
Suido (Suido) New member Username: Suido Post Number: 187 Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 5:23 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) does it involve any of these words - red?yope indian? no native? yes does it involve a nations name? no sioux? mohawk? comanche? Noobdogg (Noobdogg) New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 133 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 1:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was it something like, wonder why they named me "White Cloud" ! no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2570 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: A common English idiom is relevant. | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 650 Registered: 4-2007 |
did White Cloud say that she has "gone native"? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 147 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was the idiom?: "Every cloud has a silver lining" Any of these relevant --> Red handed, Red Herring, Redneck | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2573 Registered: 8-2001 |
did White Cloud say that she has "gone native"? Noobdogg (Noobdogg) New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 147 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 6:55 pm: Was the idiom?: "Every cloud has a silver lining" no Any of these relevant --> Red handed, Red Herring, Redneck no | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 204 Registered: 8-2007 |
you didn't actually answer booklovers question... does the relevant idiom use the word red? or a word similar to red? is red involved in a play on words? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 590 Registered: 6-2007 |
If this were stand-up comedy (with a general audience), would the joke have been funny? was the joke a story told as a first person narrative? second person? third person? other? Did the joke contain a rhetorical question? any question? was the joke more than 1 sentence? is the idiom not normally associated with Native Americans? is there any special relevance to the timing of the joke? place in which the joke was told? special joke set-up? do we need to reveal anything special about the audience? will a general audience do? You said the joke was part of a conversation, should we explore topics? is an english expression used? including the word "native"? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2575 Registered: 8-2001 |
Booklover (Booklover) New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 650 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 6:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) did White Cloud say that she has "gone native"? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2576 Registered: 8-2001 |
Post Number: 204 Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 2:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) you didn't actually answer booklovers question... Done, with my apology. The last person I want to spurn is a booklover!! does the relevant idiom use the word red? yes or a word similar to red? see previous answer is red involved in a play on words? see above Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 590 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 11:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) If this were stand-up comedy (with a general audience), would the joke have been funny? If the comedian were Native American or had some known connection with Native Americans was the joke a story told as a first person narrative? second person? third person? other? irrel Did the joke contain a rhetorical question?possibly but not necessarily any question? ditto was the joke more than 1 sentence? no is the idiom not normally associated with Native Americans? no is there any special relevance to the timing of the joke? no place in which the joke was told? no special joke set-up? no do we need to reveal anything special about the audience? see next answer will a general audience do? as long as they're familiar with the idiom, which is common in America You said the joke was part of a conversation, should we explore topics? yes is an english expression used? yes including the word "native no | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 651 Registered: 4-2007 |
have anything to do with the fact that when people describe native americans color-wise, they are called red? regarding the idiom, were any of these the idiom-- be in the red? catch someone red-handed? see red? look through rose-colored glasses? regarding the joke, were these possible ideas/punch lines?-- did white cloud say that someone caught her red handed? that someone else was caught red handed? did white cloud say she was upset and "saw red", which also meant she saw the other native americans around her? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1098 Registered: 6-2001 |
Is a play on "read"/"red" involved? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1031 Registered: 3-2006 |
Quick recap: she said something that contains both the words "native" and "red" (in that spelling), yes? Did she mention native wit? Ready wit? Native oysters? Return of the Native? Red skin? Red-faced? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2580 Registered: 8-2001 |
Booklover (Booklover) New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 651 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 8:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) have anything to do with the fact that when people describe native americans color-wise, they are called red? yes regarding the idiom, were any of these the idiom-- be in the red? catch someone red-handed? see red? look through rose-colored glasses? no to all regarding the joke, were these possible ideas/punch lines?-- did white cloud say that someone caught her red handed? no that someone else was caught red handed? no did white cloud say she was upset and "saw red", which also meant she saw the other native americans around her? no Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1098 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 10:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is a play on "read"/"red" involved? no Woodworm (Woodworm) New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1031 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 3:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Quick recap: she said something that contains both the words "native" and "red" (in that spelling), yes? no. It contained neither. The relevant idion uses the word'red' but her joke didn't Did she mention native wit? Ready wit? Native oysters? Return of the Native? Red skin? Red-faced? no to all | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 653 Registered: 4-2007 |
be in/put on red alert? go beet red? paint the town red? take the red eye? a red herring? red tape? red-carpet treatment? red hot? red blooded? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2583 Registered: 8-2001 |
Booklover (Booklover) New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 653 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 1:24 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) be in/put on red alert? go beet red? paint the town red? take the red eye? a red herring? red tape? red-carpet treatment? red hot? red blooded? none pf these!! keep trying... | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 656 Registered: 4-2007 |
ok, here goes--I've almost run out of ideas! be shown the red card? see the red light? redneck? one red cent? red flag? red faced? red letter day? my ears are turning red? like waving a red flag in front of a bull? I'm red in the face? that's all I've got! | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 598 Registered: 6-2007 |
is there a specific noun which is colored red according to the idiom? if so, is it of or relating to a human? does red occur in the beginning? middle? end? of the expression? is it a two-word expression? in the red? roses are red? red line? red hot? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 599 Registered: 6-2007 |
red head? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2586 Registered: 8-2001 |
Booklover (Booklover) New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 656 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 2:40 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) ok, here goes--I've almost run out of ideas! be shown the red card? no see the red light? no redneck? no one red cent? no red flag? no red faced? no red letter day? no my ears are turning red? no like waving a red flag in front of a bull? no I'm red in the face? no that's all I've got! Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 598 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 3:06 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) is there a specific noun which is colored red according to the idiom? yes if so, is it of or relating to a human? noish does red occur in the beginning? middle? end? of the expression? beginning is it a two-word expression? yes in the red? no roses are red? no red line? no red hot? no Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 599 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 3:06 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) red head? no | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 668 Registered: 4-2007 |
red mist? red rag (to a bull)? red meat? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2588 Registered: 8-2001 |
Booklover (Booklover) New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 668 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 11:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) red mist? no red rag (to a bull)? no red meat? no KEEP TRYING!! | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2592 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: People often use the idiom when talking about dealings with large organizations. | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1040 Registered: 3-2006 |
Red tape!! | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2594 Registered: 8-2001 |
Woodworm (Woodworm) New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1040 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 9:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Red tape!! YES!!! PLEASE SOLVE IT__NOW IT SHOULD BE EASY!! | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 670 Registered: 4-2007 |
hey, I put red tape on one of my idiom guesses (sept 19th)... oh, well... so (according to one of your statements 9/18) while the joke refers to the idiom "red tape", it doesn't necessarily have this term in the joke, correct? does the joke have to do with the idea of "red tape" but uses another word? if so, is the other word bureaucracy? rules? regulations? ok, onto my guesses (yes, I know these are terrible)... how did the native american hold up his pants? with a bunch of bureaucracy? (red tape) how did the native american hang pictures on the wall? with a bunch of bureaucracy (red tape) | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 635 Registered: 6-2001 |
Would the joke involve red teepee? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2596 Registered: 8-2001 |
Booklover (Booklover) New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 670 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 2:13 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) hey, I put red tape on one of my idiom guesses (sept 19th)... oh, well... OOOOOH!!! MY BLOOOOOPERRRRRRRRR!! I DESERVE A STAY IN TARQUIN'S DUNGEON!! so (according to one of your statements 9/18) while the joke refers to the idiom "red tape", it doesn't necessarily have this term in the joke, correct? correct does the joke have to do with the idea of "red tape" but uses another word? yes if so, is the other word bureaucracy? rules? regulations? no to all ok, onto my guesses (yes, I know these are terrible)... how did the native american hold up his pants? no with a bunch of bureaucracy? no (red tape) how did the native american hang pictures on the wall? with a bunch of bureaucracy (red tape) no Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970) New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 635 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 2:41 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Would the joke involve red teepee?no | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2073 Registered: 2-2001 |
Native-American-tape? Does the joke reference the etymology of the phrase? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2603 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo (Bodo) New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2073 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 9:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Native-American-tape? no Does the joke reference the etymology of the phrase? no | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 632 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was she describing a instance of red tape? Something that only affected the Native Americans? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2604 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 632 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 9:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was she describing a instance of red tape? yes Something that only affected the Native Americans? irrel | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 634 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did she comment how tape owned by the Native Americans would be red tape? Is the word tape in any other sense than as part of the word red tape relevant here? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2606 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 634 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 10:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did she comment how tape owned by the Native Americans would be red tape? no. She doesn't actually use the phrase'red tape', remember?? Is the word tape in any other sense than as part of the word red tape relevant here? no | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1111 Registered: 6-2001 |
Did she refere to "native American tape"? Or something similar? (that wouldn't actually work, so let's try and word a question that gets across what I'm thinking....) did she imply the phrase "red tape", rather than use some other phrase which means the same thing? And did this in some way link up with the word "red" in the phrase "red indian"? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2609 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1111 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 10:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did she refere to "native American tape"? no Or something similar? What counts as similar? (that wouldn't actually work, so let's try and word a question that gets across what I'm thinking....) did she imply the phrase "red tape", rather than use some other phrase which means the same thing? yope And did this in some way link up with the word "red" in the phrase "red indian"? yope | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 672 Registered: 4-2007 |
could the word in the joke which means "red tape" be: paperwork? procedures? official? proper channel? organization? ritual? code? guidelines? authority? ceremony? protocol? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 645 Registered: 6-2001 |
Is the word?/phrase? in question a pun on red tape? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 772 Registered: 1-2007 |
without actually using the expression was her joke about cutting through the red tape? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2610 Registered: 8-2001 |
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 672 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 1:50 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) could the word in the joke which means "red tape" be: paperwork? procedures? official? proper channel? organization? ritual? code? guidelines? authority? ceremony? protocol? none of the above!! Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970) New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 645 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 10:21 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the word?/phrase? in question a pun on red tape? no & it's a phrase Peter365 (Peter365) New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 772 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 3:00 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) without actually using the expression was her joke about cutting through the red tape?no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2623 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: THE FOLLOWING FACTS ARE IMPORTANT. W.C., A NATIVE AMERICAN IS MAKING A JOKE ABOUT BUREAUCRACY THAT RELIES ON BUT DOES NOT USE THE EXPRESSION'RED TAPE.' THE FACT THAT SHE IS NATIVE AMERICAN OR KNOWN TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH NATIVE AMERICANS IS NECESSARY FOR THE JOKE TO HAVE ANY POINT AT ALL. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 268 Registered: 9-2007 |
What aspect of native americans does the joke refer to? -the fact that they are also called red indians? -the oppression they faced early on -something about their culture -the way their names have meanings Did the joke contain the word 'tape'? Is her name relevant to the joke? Was the joke about an arduosly bureaucratic situation she had been in? or observed? If so, some sort of a government procedure? school? hospital? court? corporation? armed force? form filling? corruption? tax collection? Is the term "middle-man" relevant? Was it she cribbing about the dull routine and monotony that comes with a bureaucratic system? Requisitions for everything? Catch-22 relevant? Group thinking / lack of common sense? Was there discrimination of any kind involved here? hostile? harmless? unintentional? Is some native american cliche relevant? Is there any other idiom with the word 'red' involved? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2629 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg) New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 268 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 8:25 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) What aspect of native americans does the joke refer to? -the fact that they are also called red indians? yes -the oppression they faced early on no -something about their culture no -the way their names have meanings no Did the joke contain the word 'tape'? yes Is her name relevant to the joke? no Was the joke about an arduosly bureaucratic situation she had been in? possibly or observed? ditto If so, some sort of a government procedure? school? hospital? court? corporation? armed force? form filling? corruption? tax collection? irrel what sort of situstion Is the term "middle-man" relevant? no Was it she cribbing about the dull routine and monotony that comes with a bureaucratic system? irrel Requisitions for everything?possibly but irrel Catch-22 relevant? Group thinking / lack of common sense? just bureaucracy in general--the specifics are irrel Was there discrimination of any kind involved here? no hostile? harmless? unintentional? Is some native american cliche relevant? Is there any other idiom with the word 'red' involved? just the fact that Native Americans are often described as red | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2639 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: You've already estasblished that the relevant idiom is 'red tape' but that she didn't say 'red tape'. What might a clever Native American say instead when complaining about bureaucracy? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 672 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was her joke anything to do with not being supposed to call Native Americans "Red Indians" any more? Due to political correctness? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2643 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 672 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 9:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was her joke anything to do with not being supposed to call Native Americans "Red Indians" any more? no Due to political correctness? no | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 753 Registered: 4-2007 |
Could she say something like, "I wanted to do x,y, or z, but I couldn't cut through all the native american tape"? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 754 Registered: 4-2007 |
sorry, never mind my last post! I just realized that Bentarm and Bodo had already asked the same thing about "native american tape" and you said "no" to both of them. I'll think some more... | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 707 Registered: 6-2007 |
"white tape"? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 677 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did she say something like, "We didn't invent all this bureaucracy-it should have been called "white tap"? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2646 Registered: 8-2001 |
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 753 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 12:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Could she say something like, "I wanted to do x,y, or z, but I couldn't cut through all the native american tape"? Booklover (Booklover) New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 754 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 1:01 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) sorry, never mind my last post! I just realized that Bentarm and Bodo had already asked the same thing about "native american tape" and you said "no" to both of them. I'll think some more... Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 707 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 1:58 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) "white tape"?YES!!!!!!!!! Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 677 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 11:02 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did she say something like, "We didn't invent all this bureaucracy-it should have been called "white tap"?\b {see above!!} **********SPOILER************** White Cloud, a Native American undergraduate apologized for being late to an appointment with her advisor. "I got stuck in all the white tape," she expained. This is based on an anecdote I read. Thanks for solving it, Enjay, & all you clever lateral puzzlers are urgued to check out my new puzzle at the bottom of the page | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 679 Registered: 4-2007 |
Great puzzle...I can't take any credit though, I was only basing my guess on Sixtyeight's! | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2650 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 679 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 8:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Great puzzle...I can't take any credit though, I was only basing my guess on Sixtyeight's! In these times of rampant self-esteem, your modesty is impressive. But so are your clever questions. How about some on my remaining puzzles (including the brand-new one I just posted)? |
