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Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 7:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

She said 'black coffee', so I gave her five pounds.
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Sorry, boring, standard questions coming up...

Lisp? Child learning first words? Black coffee = Drink? Five pounds as in money? Hitting? Weight? HAF? Is "She" relevant? Is "I" relevant? Job relevant?
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Was she female? human? adult?
Is 'I' you Woodworm?
Was she a family member of yours? a friend? a colleague? a stranger?
Did she order coffee?
Did you pay her for a service she provided? an object she gave to you?
Was there a relevant conversation between you before? after?
Are other people involved?
Is the place where this happened relevant? the country? did it happen in a building? outside?
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did she say it to you?
was a question asked?
did she need something?
did you need something?
is milk relevant? sugar? tea? money?
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Deathateaster:
Sorry, boring, standard questions coming up... That's quite all right :-)

Lisp? No, not thith Child learning first words? nope Black coffee = Drink? yes Five pounds as in money? yes Hitting? no Weight? no HAF? yes Is "She" relevant? Is "I" relevant? yes Job relevant? no

Tobasi:
Was she female? human? adult? yes to all
Is 'I' you Woodworm? yes
Was she a family member of yours? a friend? a colleague? a stranger? not a colleague, but yope to the rest. As it happens, she was my ex
Did she order coffee? no
Did you pay her for a service she provided? no an object she gave to you? no
Was there a relevant conversation between you before? yes after? yes, though less relevant
Are other people involved? yes
Is the place where this happened relevant? yes the country? yope: it would work in several countries did it happen in a building? yes outside? no

Sixtyeight:
did she say it to you? yes
was a question asked? yes
did she need something? no
did you need something? no
is milk relevant? no sugar? no tea? no money? the five pounds, yes
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Was this payment for a bet of some sort?
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Was this payment for a bet of some sort? For svv of bet, yes. Good q!
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when she said black coffee were the two of you in the same location? within sight of one another? was any black coffee in sight?
if yes, is container relevant?
was a question asked before she said black coffee?
was a question asked after she said black coffee?
was black coffee an answer to a question?
is coffee taken another way relevant?
does someone relevant take black coffee?
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when she said black coffee were the two of you in the same location? yes within sight of one another? yes was any black coffee in sight? irrel
if yes, is container relevant? so, no

was a question asked before she said black coffee? yes
was a question asked after she said black coffee? no
was black coffee an answer to a question? yes, with a teeny -ish

is coffee taken another way relevant? the mind boggles! not sure what you mean, but I'd say no

does someone relevant take black coffee? no
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If she'd said "black tea", would you have given her the money? If she'd said "white choocolate"?
Did anyone at any point drink a relevant cup of black coffee?
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If she'd said "black tea", would you have given her the money? no If she'd said "white choocolate"? no
Did anyone at any point drink a relevant cup of black coffee? no
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was "black coffee" the answer to a puzzle? a quiz question?
Was there anyone else there? If so (or if there had been) might you have given them the money if they'd said "black coffee"?
If she'd said "coffee without any milk in it" would you have given her the money?
Is there anything else she could have said which might have resulted in you giving her money?
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was "black coffee" the answer to a puzzle? no a quiz question? yope
Was there anyone else there? no, or irrel If so (or if there had been) might you have given them the money if they'd said "black coffee"? yes
If she'd said "coffee without any milk in it" would you have given her the money? no
Is there anything else she could have said which might have resulted in you giving her money? yes! All good questions: you're on a roll
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Is there something relevant about the words "black coffee", as distinct from their meaning? ie, if we spoke a bizarre language which was exactly the same as English but in which the phrases "black coffee" and "onion bhagi" had swapped meaning, would you still have given her the money for saying "black coffee"? For saying "onion bhagi"?
Might you have given her the money if she'd said "black toffee"?
If you'd been speaking French, and she'd said "café noir", would you have given her the money?
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Is there something relevant about the words "black coffee", as distinct from their meaning? no, not really ie, if we spoke a bizarre language which was exactly the same as English but in which the phrases "black coffee" and "onion bhagi" had swapped meaning, would you still have given her the money for saying "black coffee"? no For saying "onion bhagi"? yes-ish: I think I'm right with those, but it's a bit of a brainbender. It wouldn't *quite* work with onion bhagi

Might you have given her the money if she'd said "black toffee"? no!
If you'd been speaking French, and she'd said "café noir", would you have given her the money? yes-ish, but difficult to answer for sure
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Does a physical cup/other quantity of black coffee exist or has one ever existed anywhere in the world which is relevant to this puzzle?
When she said "black coffee", was she referring to the liquid that one gets when one takes the beans of the coffee plant, roasts them, grinds them and then adds hot water?
To a specific quantity of black coffee? Or to the substance in general?
Were you expecting her to say "black coffee"? Would you have been surprised if she'd said one of the other things which would have resulted in her getting the money?
The other things she might have said which would have resulted in her getting the money: liquids? drinks? hot drinks? foodstuffs? items of clothing? titles of works of literature? species of pumpkin?

Was the question a memory test of some sort? Did it rely on some previous experience you knew her to have had?
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were you playing a word game? scrabble? crossword?
did you ask her the question before she said that?
did the question contain "what is"? or similar? "which is"? or similar? or "I bet you can't"? or similar? "do you know"? or similar?
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Bentarm:
Does a physical cup/other quantity of black coffee exist or has one ever existed anywhere in the world which is relevant to this puzzle? no
When she said "black coffee", was she referring to the liquid that one gets when one takes the beans of the coffee plant, roasts them, grinds them and then adds hot water? yes
To a specific quantity of black coffee? no Or to the substance in general? this one
Were you expecting her to say "black coffee"? not really Would you have been surprised if she'd said one of the other things which would have resulted in her getting the money? no more or less surprised
The other things she might have said which would have resulted in her getting the money: liquids? yes, good q drinks? yes hot drinks? no foodstuffs? only in as much as they are drinks items of clothing? no titles of works of literature? no, but not a zillion miles from the ballpark species of pumpkin? if this were true I'd give you five pounds as well. Sadly not, though

Was the question a memory test of some sort? no-ish Did it rely on some previous experience you knew her to have had? no-ish

Sixtyeight:
were you playing a word game? not really, no scrabble? no crossword? no
did you ask her the question before she said that? no
did the question contain "what is"? no but ... or similar? similar "which is"? closer still but not quite or similar? or "I bet you can't"? no or similar? "do you know"? or similar? no
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did the question contain "what do you get if" or "what do you get"?
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Do the other drinks bear any relevant similarities to black coffee? colour? nutritional content? taste?
Would any of the following have been acceptable answers:
Any alcoholic beverage? whisky? rum? vodka? tequila? lager? budweiser? staropramen? bitter? beer? red wine? white wine?
Any soft drink? coca cola? lemonade? fanta? pepsi? diet coke?
Any sort of juice? orange juice? grapefruit juice? pineapple juice? mango juice?
Any other hot drink? tea? hot chocolate? bovril?
water?
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did the question contain "what do you get if" or "what do you get"? neither of these

Do the other drinks bear any relevant similarities to black coffee? colour? nutritional content? taste? none of these

Would any of the following have been acceptable answers:

By 'acceptable answers' I take it you mean answers that would result in her getting money? If so:

Any alcoholic beverage? not just any whisky? no rum? no vodka? no tequila? no lager? no budweiser? no staropramen? no bitter? no beer? no red wine? no white wine? no
Any soft drink? not just any coca cola lemonade? fanta? pepsi? diet coke? none of those
Any sort of juice? not just any orange juice? but most assuredly this grapefruit juice? pineapple juice? mango juice? no to rest
Any other hot drink? tea? hot chocolate? bovril?
water? and no to those as well
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Do you drink orange juice? black coffee? Is this relevant?
Does anyone drink both orange juice and black coffee who is relevant to this puzzle?
Is there a particular situation in which orange juice and black coffee would both be drunk which is relevant to this puzzle?
Is breakfast relevant?
So are there some alcoholic beverages which would work? some soft drinks? any other forms of juice? some fizzy drinks?
champagne? bucks fizz? dandelion and burdock? ginger ale? saki?

Is the list of acceptable drinks finite? (actually, that's a stupid question, the list of all the drinks ever in the world is finite, so...) do you know how many members it contains?
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Do you drink orange juice? yes black coffee? yes! Is this relevant? not in the slightest

Does anyone drink both orange juice and black coffee who is relevant to this puzzle? no

Is there a particular situation in which orange juice and black coffee would both be drunk which is relevant to this puzzle? no
Is breakfast relevant? no
So are there some alcoholic beverages which would work? yes-ish some soft drinks? yes any other forms of juice? no some fizzy drinks? no
champagne? no bucks fizz? no dandelion and burdock? no ginger ale? no saki? no

Is the list of acceptable drinks finite? yes (actually, that's a stupid question, the list of all the drinks ever in the world is finite, so...) do you know how many members it contains? yes, and to save you asking, the number of drinks which would have earned her the money is 3.
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was she expecting the 5 quid?
did she say the names of the other beverages?
did she say anything else with hopes of receiving the 5 quid?
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was she expecting the 5 quid? possibly but not necessarily
did she say the names of the other beverages? no
did she say anything else with hopes of receiving the 5 quid? no
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did you make an announcement that you would give money for something? did you make it known another way?
did you know you would pay 5 before she said black coffee?
are any calculations relevant that would reach 5?
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did you make an announcement that you would give money for something? yes did you make it known another way? no: a verbal agreement
did you know you would pay 5 before she said black coffee? no
are any calculations relevant that would reach 5? no: it would work for any reasonably small sum
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Might you have given her a different amount of money if she'd said a different drink? Or the same?
Might it help us to find out what the other drink is? cider? made from fruit? wine of any sort? spirit? beer? made from some sort of cereal? Could you buy it in a pub? Would it come on tap? in a bottle? in a glass?
Do the other drinks bear any relevant similarities to black coffee at all?
If so: related to where they come from? where they are drunk? how much they cost? how they are made?
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Might you have given her a different amount of money if she'd said a different drink? no Or the same? yes
Might it help us to find out what the other drink is? yes: it would help, though the puzzle could be solved without knowing the exact details cider? no made from fruit? yes, in part wine of any sort? no spirit? yes beer? no made from some sort of cereal? yes Could you buy it in a pub? yes Would it come on tap? no in a bottle? no in a glass? yes

Do the other drinks bear any relevant similarities to black coffee at all? yes
If so: related to where they come from? nowhere they are drunk? no how much they cost? no how they are made? no
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clear spirit? dark?
Might you drink it with tonic water? orange juice? coca cola? neat? on the rocks?
gin? absinthe? brandy? cognac? calvados?
The relevant similarity - would it be true if these drinks existed but no-one ever drank them?
Is it a chemical property of the drinks?
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clear spirit? this-ish dark? not this
Might you drink it with tonic water? It's not a drink I know much about, to be honest, so can't be 100% sure. Not hugely relevant, though. orange juice? no coca cola? no neat? on the rocks? either of those would be possible
gin? indeed! absinthe? brandy? cognac? calvados? no to rest, though the mention of Calvados has got me licking my lips .. I adore that stuff

The relevant similarity - would it be true if these drinks existed but no-one ever drank them? yes, absolutely
Is it a chemical property of the drinks? nope
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Is the fact that each can have a colour in their title? I'm thinking of a pink gin.
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Pounds as in money, right? Not 5 pounds of black coffee?
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trying to recap a little bit.. you wrote that there were three drinks which would have earned her money.. we know about "black coffee" I saw a yes to "orange juice" and "gin".. is that all three?
If she had said "orange juice" or "gin" instead of black coffee you would have given her the fiver?
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Is the fact that each can have a colour in their title? it's relevant, yes I'm thinking of a pink gin. Exactly and precisely so! Good call indeed. Now then ...

Pounds as in money, right? yes Not 5 pounds of black coffee? correct: not that

trying to recap a little bit.. you wrote that there were three drinks which would have earned her money.. we know about "black coffee" I saw a yes to "orange juice" and "gin".. is that all three? yes! In fact, we've now established that it is specifically pink gin

If she had said "orange juice" or "gin" instead of black coffee you would have given her the fiver? yes: if she had said orange juice or pink gin, she would have got the five pounds
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so are the colours relevant?
Is there anything black relevant? anything pink? anything orange?
just to check - green tea wouldn't have been any good? red aftershock?
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so are the colours relevant? it's relevant that the name contains a colour
Is there anything black relevant? anything pink? anything orange? but none of these
just to check - green tea wouldn't have been any good? it wouldn't red aftershock? nor this
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Is there some commonality between pink orange and black but not red or green that is relevant here? Were you playing a game. Had you said the name of a drink with a colour in it and she trumped this by mentioning Black Coffee?
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If there were such a thing as "orange gin" or "black juice" could saying them have earned 5 pounds?
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Is there some commonality between pink orange and black but not red or green that is relevant here? not really Were you playing a game. yes, of sorts Had you said the name of a drink with a colour in it and she trumped this by mentioning Black Coffee? good thinking, but no

If there were such a thing as "orange gin" or "black juice" could saying them have earned 5 pounds? no
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Would this be the sort of game you might play on a long car journey e.g. number of red cars v no of blue? eye-spy? something similar?
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Would this be the sort of game you might play on a long car journey e.g. number of red cars v no of blue? eye-spy? something similar? no, nothing like that
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Darn this is tough. So it's only yesish for a game? Did you ask a question along the lines of Can you name? How many .... can you name? Could she or did she then ask you something which would give you a chance to win your money back?

Are the initials of the drinks also relevant? bc? oj? pg? i suppose all have uses in spoken language?

Was the question which is the odd one out?
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Darn this is tough. So it's only yesish for a game? yes Did you ask a question along the lines of Can you name? no How many .... can you name? no Could she or did she then ask you something which would give you a chance to win your money back? no

Are the initials of the drinks also relevant? bc? oj? pg? no i suppose all have uses in spoken language? not 100% sure what you mean

Was the question which is the odd one out? no, but you are roughly in the right neck of the woods
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were you in a public place? private? a shop? on the steet? in a vehicle?
I'm picturing you in a cab for some reason.. do I get clairvoyance points?

is one other person relevant? more?
a human? adult? male?
a stranger? someone familiar?
someone.. serving you? hosting you? employing you? socializing with you? correcting you? paying you? annoying you? unaware of you?
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were you in a public place? private? this a shop? no on the steet? no in a vehicle? no I'm picturing you in a cab for some reason.. do I get clairvoyance points? I wish! But I'm afraid not.

is one other person relevant? more? this
a human? adult? male? one of the other people is a HAM

a stranger? yope someone familiar? yes
someone.. serving you? no hosting you? no employing you? no socializing with you? no correcting you? no paying you? no annoying you? no unaware of you? yes-ish
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Were you in someone's home? your home? her home? a relevant other person's home?
Are any of the other relevant people children? female? relevant how many other relevant people there are? 2? 3? 4? 5? 6? 7? 10? 50? 100? 1000?
When she said "black coffee", was she guessing? Did she know that you were going to give her £5?
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Were you in someone's home? yes your home? yes her home? we lived together, so yes a relevant other person's home? no
Are any of the other relevant people children? no female? irrel relevant how many other relevant people there are? 2? two that are directly relevant 3? 4? 5? 6? 7? 10? 50? 100? 1000?

When she said "black coffee", was she guessing? yes Did she know that you were going to give her £5? not immediately, no
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When she guessed "black coffee", might "green tea" have been a reasonable guess? (although we know it would have turned out to be wrong)
Might "pineapple juice" have been a reasonable guess?
Were the other two relevant people present at the time?
Have the other two people ever had any relevant interaction whatever with any liquid? black coffee? orange juice? pink gin?
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were you watching TV at the time?
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When she guessed "black coffee", might "green tea" have been a reasonable guess? (although we know it would have turned out to be wrong) yes, good q
Might "pineapple juice" have been a reasonable guess? less so
Were the other two relevant people present at the time? not in the room: see below
Have the other two people ever had any relevant interaction whatever with any liquid? no black coffee? orange juice? pink gin? no

were you watching TV at the time? Yes!
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Wre you watching a game show? Is the reason that only those three drinks would have got her the £5 because those were the answers to a question on TV? Was it anything like, "I'm thinking of three drinks containing a colour...if you can name one/all of them you win"?
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Wre you watching a game show? yes Is the reason that only those three drinks would have got her the £5 because those were the answers to a question on TV? hmmm .... yope Was it anything like, "I'm thinking of three drinks containing a colour...if you can name one/all of them you win"? not quite that, but you are getting warm
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Is it a well known game show? Would it help to find the exact show? Is it one when you have to name objects fitting in a certain category? Was she trying to predict what the contestant would guess? Were the three drinks that would have won her the £5 pounds chosen by you? The gameshow devisers? The contestant?
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Is it a well known game show? very much so Would it help to find the exact show? yes Is it one when you have to name objects fitting in a certain category? no Was she trying to predict what the contestant would guess? no Were the three drinks that would have won her the £5 pounds chosen by you? no The gameshow devisers? yes The contestant? no
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Does the quiz test general knowledge? Luck? Knowledge on a particular subject?
Did the contestant say "black coffee"? "pink gin"? "orange juice"? Did the contestant win anything? Could the contestant reasonably have said "green tea"-maybe it wouldn't be right, but you could have understood why they said it?

Well known gameshows:
Who wants to be a millionaire?
Weakest Link?
Mastermind?
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Does the quiz test general knowledge? this Luck? no Knowledge on a particular subject? no
Did the contestant say "black coffee"? "pink gin"? "orange juice"? none of these Did the contestant win anything? I think so, but irrel Could the contestant reasonably have said "green tea"-maybe it wouldn't be right, but you could have understood why they said it? no, or at least extremely unlikely, unless he/she was joking

Well known gameshows:
Who wants to be a millionaire? Got it in one!
Weakest Link?
Mastermind? no to rest
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Were the three drinks 3 of the four options? Was the other also a colour drink? Did the contestant say the fourth one? Was the question "which is the odd one out"?
Was the person who said "black coffee" playing along with the quiz at home? If she had been a contestant and said "black coffee" would she have won? Are the three lifelines within the game relevant? Was her saying of black coffee due to her general knowledge? Luck?
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Were the three drinks 3 of the four options? yes .. with a slight extra in each case Was the other also a colour drink? yes Did the contestant say the fourth one? thankfully, yes Was the question "which is the odd one out"? no
Was the person who said "black coffee" playing along with the quiz at home? yes If she had been a contestant and said "black coffee" would she have won? no! Are the three lifelines within the game relevant? no Was her saying of black coffee due to her general knowledge? yes, in an indirect way Luck? the winning of the £5 was due to this, certainly
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Is this an easy question, one that everyone should know the answer to (ie, the £100 or £200 questions)? Was the correct answer a phrase or idiom which includes a colour drink? Something like "Which of these phrases means________?" Then the four options, each of which contains a colour drink? Did they also contain another word? More than one other word? The same word for each option? Should we find out what the fourth colour drink was? Were you playing a game with your ex where she had to say a wrong answer?
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Is this an easy question, one that everyone should know the answer to (ie, the £100 or £200 questions)? yes: good question. Was the correct answer a phrase or idiom which includes a colour drink? yes: not quite an idiom, but something else of relevance Something like "Which of these phrases means________?" not quite that, but close Then the four options, each of which contains a colour drink? yes Did they also contain another word? yes More than one other word? no The same word for each option? no Should we find out what the fourth colour drink was? yes Were you playing a game with your ex where she had to say a wrong answer? YES! Now then: why would we do that, and what was the question? Mopping-up time, I feel. Great questions!
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Did she know the question?
Did she know that her answer was wrong?
Was the question something like "which of these drinks has a given property?"? "which of these drinks contains substance Y?"? "which of these drinks would you drink with substance X?"?
Did the other colour drink contain the colour red? black? white? yellow? blue? green? purple? orange? beige? scarlet? mauve? cyan? magenta? magnolia?
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were the words to complete a song title? book title? movie title? other title? famous qoute?
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Did she know the question? yes
Did she know that her answer was wrong? yes
Was the question something like "which of these drinks has a given property?"? no "which of these drinks contains substance Y?"? no "which of these drinks would you drink with substance X?"? no
Did the other colour drink contain the colour red? yes black? white? yellow? blue? green? purple? orange? beige? scarlet? mauve? cyan? magenta? magnolia? no to rest

were the words to complete a song title? Yes! book title? movie title? other title? famous qoute?
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Black Coffee In Bed?
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Is it an extremely well known song? A pop song? If so, recent? Traditional song? The other word in each option, was it also a colour? The same colour as the colour of the drink? The only song title I can think of at the moment conatining a coloured drink is "Red Red Wine".
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Black Coffee In Bed? no but see below Is it an extremely well known song? A pop song? If so, recent? Traditional song? The other word in each option, was it also a colour? The same colour as the colour of the drink? The only song title I can think of at the moment conatining a coloured drink is "Red Red Wine". You have it! The rest is garnish. On to the


********** SPOILER ************

Another 80s music puzzle, I'm afraid.

My ex and I used to love Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. Instead of the usual game of shouting out the questions, though, we played a rather silly variant. Especially in the early stages, the correct answers are usually too easy, so we devised a game where you had to shout out one of the comical incorrect answers before it appeared. The first to guess a wrong answer won a fiver.

On this occasion the question was:

Which of these drinks was a hit for UB40 in the Eighties?

A Red red wine
B Pink pink gin
C Black black coffee
D Orange orange juice

Not sure if anyone has tried this game before, but I recommend it. It can be quite fun.

Well played everyone, and especially to Enjay for making the final breakthrough.
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Great puzzle! And I will certainly be trying that game.

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