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Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
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Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The title is only to do with the other magic trick puzzle...

Being excited ruined my trick.
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Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 8:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

a magic trick?
or you were fooling someone?
were you not calm?
were your hands unsteady?
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Because you were excited, you performed the trick too quickly? Or you gave something away before the trick? Or did the excitement make you forget something important?
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were you excited?
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a magic trick? Yes
or you were fooling someone? No
were you not calm? I was calm
were your hands unsteady?No.
Because you were excited, you performed the trick too quickly? Or you gave something away before the trick? Or did the excitement make you forget something important?No to all.
were you excited? No
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were you excited at the time you performed the trick?
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Did your trick get ruined because your audience was excited? Did someone from the audience do something to ruin your trick? Is it relevant where you were? And how many people were watching?
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were you excited at the time you performed the trick? No
Did your trick get ruined because your audience was excited? No Did someone from the audience do something to ruin your trick? Yesish/Yes Is it relevant where you were? No. And how many people were watching? No.
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The person from the audience who ruined your trick = A

Is A human? adult? male?
Was A the one who was excited?
Did A know the trick before-hand?
Did A tell people the secret of the trick?
Did A point? jump? Or do something with his body? Or did he say something that ruined your trick?
Your trick got ruined purely because of someone being excited, or as a consequence of that?
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Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 4:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The person from the audience who ruined your trick = A

Is A human? adult? male? Irrel
Was A the one who was excited? YES
Did A know the trick before-hand? No.
Did A tell people the secret of the trick? No.
Did A point? jump? Or do something with his body? Yes, but beware of this one! Or did he say something that ruined your trick? No to else.
Your trick got ruined purely because of someone being excited, or as a consequence of that?
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Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 11:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was a the person from the audience selected to help you with the trick?
were you sawing A in half?

in the trick should something magically disappear? magically appear? magically change ? magically move?

is it a card trick? coin trick? do you use a handkerchief? wand? hat? smoke? animal?

are there any significant properties of A? can he be considered a normal? healthy?
did something about the trick excite A?
did something else in the room excite A?
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was a the person from the audience selected to help you with the trick? Yes
were you sawing A in half? No.

in the trick should something magically disappear? magically appear? magically change ? magically move? None

is it a card trick? coin trick? do you use a handkerchief? wand? hat? smoke? animal? None.

are there any significant properties of A? Yes, but only when he ruined my trick. can he be considered a normal? healthy? Yes.
did something about the trick excite A? No
did something else in the room excite A? Yes.
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So when A was helping you out with your trick, something in the room excited him, and his excitement ruined your trick. Right upto here?

The thing that got A excited, is it a person? Many people? An animal? An object? A gas? Or some chemical?

When A got excited, did he move? And did this movement spoil your trick? Or did he forget something he had to do? Did he make a sound?

And you forgot this one last time :Your trick got ruined purely because of A being excited, or as a consequence of that?
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So when A was helping you out with your trick, something in the room excited him, and his excitement ruined your trick. Right upto here? Yes, but somethingS

The thing that got A excited, is it a person? Many people? This one An animal? An object? A gas? Or some chemical?

When A got excited, did he move? And did this movement spoil your trick? Or did he forget something he had to do? Did he make a sound? None of these

And you forgot this one last time :Your trick got ruined purely because of A being excited, or as a consequence of that? As a consequence, I suppose. I myself don't see any difference.
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was A supposed to hold something? say something? wear a blindfold?

did his excitement cause a lack of action? did he not do something?
did he freeze?

did his excitement reveal how you did your trick? did it prevent you from completing your trick?
was the crowd heckling? did anyone say anything relevant?
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Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 4:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was A supposed to hold something? say something? wear a blindfold? Hold something

did his excitement cause a lack of action? did he not do something?
did he freeze? None

did his excitement reveal how you did your trick? did it prevent you from completing your trick?
was the crowd heckling? did anyone say anything relevant? None
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Was there a relevant 'symptom' of being excited that caused the blooper? If so, any of these?:

Sweaty hands
Jittery fingers / Unsteady grip
Stuttering / Stammering
Increased / Decreased body temperature

If someone more calm had volunteered instead, would the trick have worked?

Did you need the volunteer to look scared or serious instead of excited?
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Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 5:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In retrospect, what I described was more nervousness than excitement... but I'll wait for your answers.
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Was there a relevant 'symptom' of being excited that caused the blooper? You're on the right track. If so, any of these?:

Sweaty hands
Jittery fingers / Unsteady grip
Stuttering / Stammering
Increased / Decreased body temperature Close. Not exactly, but close.

If someone more calm had volunteered instead, would the trick have worked? Yes, most likely.

Did you need the volunteer to look scared or serious instead of excited? NO.

In retrospect, what I described was more nervousness than excitement... but I'll wait for your answers. One was close, but hey.
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Did A start blushing? Pee his pants? Got a heart attack? Was the fact that he was on stage making him so excited? Was the audience clapping? Is it relevant how big the audience is? Or where the performance is taking place?

Is it important what A was supposed to hold? Did he drop that object?
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Did A start blushing? Pee his pants? Got a heart attack? None of these. Was the fact that he was on stage making him so excited? YES. Was the audience clapping? Is it relevant how big the audience is? Or where the performance is taking place? No. However, a big audience would get him excited...

Is it important what A was supposed to hold? No, but it IS relevant why... Did he drop that object? No.
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is the kind of trick relevant to the subject's nervous condition?
would he have been as nervous for any participation type trick?
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is the kind of trick relevant to the subject's nervous condition? It is a certin trick that this applies to, yes.
would he have been as nervous for any participation type trick? EXCITEMENT, and yes.
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is there any significant difference between nervousness and excitement for this siutation?

was there a specific physical attribute of the excited one that ruined the trick?

sweat? hyperactivity? hypersensitivity?
increased heart rate? increased breathing?
dialated pupils? delerium? dry mouth?
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is there any significant difference between nervousness and excitement for this siutation? There may have been a mix up here. A was excited, however, one of the attributes of nervousness was close to, and would do the same job as, excitedness.

was there a specific physical attribute of the excited one that ruined the trick? Rephrase?

sweat? hyperactivity? hypersensitivity?
increased heart rate? THIS ONE. increased breathing?
dialated pupils? delerium? dry mouth?
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I remember a science experiment where you could measure the pulse of a person by placing a thumbtack on a rubber band on their upturned wrist or something like that...

Did the joke depend on the person's heart / pulse rate being normal? Or was the failure an indirect result of this individual's tachycardia?

A morbid possibility is that the volunteer was not very healthy (old / heart patient) and had a heart attack while assisting you... :'(
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I remember a science experiment where you could measure the pulse of a person by placing a thumbtack on a rubber band on their upturned wrist or something like that... No. Nice try, but no.

Did the joke Magic trick... depend on the person's heart / pulse rate being normal? Yes, but no. Or was the failure an indirect result of this individual's tachycardia? Rephrase.

A morbid possibility is that the volunteer was not very healthy (old / heart patient) and had a heart attack while assisting you... :'( No.
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The magic trick was dependent on heart rate? pulse? blood pressure?

are there any props in the trick that display heart rate? calculate heart rate?

could any person have ruined the trick? or is there something about that one individual?
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The magic trick was dependent on heart rate? pulse? blood pressure? All of these, but not in the way you'd expect.

are there any props in the trick that display heart rate? calculate heart rate? No.

could any person have ruined the trick? or is there something about that one individual? As long as they were excited.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 6:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would you like me to spoil?
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I'd rather you post a recap and/or a hint..

is it a known magic trick from classic magician routines?
is it relevant which trick?
would knowing which trick reveal how it was ruined?
did the cardiovascular symptoms lead to other relevant physical symptoms?
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Is a lie-detector or any such similar instrument relevant?
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I'd rather you post a recap and/or a hint.. Ok, look down the post.

is it a known magic trick from classic magician routines? No. However, it's a well known trick, and many variations have been made.
is it relevant which trick? Yes.
would knowing which trick reveal how it was ruined? Yes, and you can figure out the trick due to why it was ruined.
did the cardiovascular symptoms lead to other relevant physical symptoms? Rephrase a little, can't answer in it's current state.

Is a lie-detector or any such similar instrument relevant? No.

RECAP.

1. A member of the audience, a volunteer, ruined the trick because he was excited.
2. The audience made him excited.
3. One of the attributes given to excitedness ruined the trick, to be more precise raised blood pressure.
4. It is a particular trick that depends on the blood pressure being normal.

HINT: IT IS A COIN TRICK, AND THE VOLUNTEER DID NOT KNOW HE WAS RUINING IT.
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 7:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the trick the one where you get a volunteer to hold a coin up to his head while your back is turned, then you can tell which hand it was in because the blood has drained out leaving it paler? But his raised blood pressure meant this dodn't work?
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the trick the one where you get a volunteer to hold a coin up to his head while your back is turned, then you can tell which hand it was in because the blood has drained out leaving it paler? But his raised blood pressure meant this dIdn't work?

<<<<****----spoiler----****>>>>

Yup, he got it SPOT ON! Fantastic!
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 9:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I learnt that trick from a movie...never tried it, though I've been informed it really does work. Is this a real life event, or did you get the idea from the same place I did (I'd never heard of it before)?
Great puzzle!
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just a little note to remind you to leave spaces around the word spoiler so that the search engine picks it up for admin
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Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 4:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry. SPOILER

By the way, It's in all of my 5 magic trick books, so I thought it was pretty common.

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