| Author | Message | ||
| Swimmergirl78 (Swimmergirl78)
New member Username: Swimmergirl78 Post Number: 8 Registered: 9-2007 |
A man is found dead in a toll booth with a fish. How did he die?(This is not a classic) | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 74 Registered: 6-2007 |
you have to post your name in the titles. | ||
| Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean Post Number: 1322 Registered: 10-2001 |
Are you sure this isn't a classic? Is the fish dead? Is the man inside the fish? Or visa versa? Is there any glass involved? Is the man a fisherman? Any background about the man relevant? Relevant what type of fish? | ||
| Alanlin (Alanlin)
New member Username: Alanlin Post Number: 28 Registered: 6-2007 |
Would the puzzle have worked if he was in a phone booth? Is the toll booth on the highway? Is it a real fish? Are other relevant people involved? Was the man murdered? Did he die from poisoning? Gunshot? Bleeding? Heart attack? Stroke? Choking/asphyxiation? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2194 Registered: 2-2001 |
Is the fish a red herring? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 672 Registered: 6-2007 |
does the fish have fins? is it a mollusk? crustacean? was he a toll collector? did someone tell him to do something? is his wife relevant? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 77 Registered: 7-2006 |
Are the toll booth, the man and the fish all underwater? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 724 Registered: 4-2007 |
was this a real man? it wasn't possibly one of those fake/plastic man in a toll booth in the fish bowl, was it? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 727 Registered: 4-2007 |
did the man drown? was the toll booth on a bridge--and the bridge collapsed? and now the toll booth, dead man, and the fish are all under water? | ||
| Swimmergirl78 (Swimmergirl78)
New member Username: Swimmergirl78 Post Number: 12 Registered: 9-2007 |
Are you sure this isn't a classic? Yes Is the fish dead? yes Is the man inside the fish? Or visa versa? no Is there any glass involved? yes Is the man a fisherman? not relevant Any background about the man relevant? no | ||
| Swimmergirl78 (Swimmergirl78)
New member Username: Swimmergirl78 Post Number: 13 Registered: 9-2007 |
Are the toll booth, the man and the fish all underwater? no did the man drown? no was the toll booth on a bridge--and the bridge collapsed? and now the toll booth, dead man, and the fish are all under water? no was this a real man? it wasn't possibly one of those fake/plastic man in a toll booth in the fish bowl, was it? no does the fish have fins? is it a mollusk? crustacean? not relevant was he a toll collector? no did someone tell him to do something? no is his wife relevant? no | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 728 Registered: 4-2007 |
I don't think you answered Analin's questions from Oct 2 or Bodo's questions from 10/2... | ||
| Swimmergirl78 (Swimmergirl78)
New member Username: Swimmergirl78 Post Number: 15 Registered: 9-2007 |
Would the puzzle have worked if he was in a phone booth? yes Is the toll booth on the highway? not relevant Is it a real fish? yes Are other relevant people involved? yes Was the man murdered? no Did he die from poisoning? Gunshot? Bleeding? Heart attack? Stroke? Is the fish a red herring? Choking/asphyxiation? no to all of the above | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 673 Registered: 11-2003 |
Did he die from an accident? Was he sick? Did he die of old age? If he had been anywhere else at that moment, would he still have died? Would the puzzle work if the dead person was a female? | ||
| Swimmergirl78 (Swimmergirl78)
New member Username: Swimmergirl78 Post Number: 16 Registered: 9-2007 |
Did he die from an accident? yes Was he sick? Did he die of old age? no to above If he had been anywhere else at that moment, would he still have died? no Would the puzzle work if the dead person was a female? yes | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 476 Registered: 8-2005 |
Are the booth windows broken? Did the man break them? Did the fish? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 675 Registered: 11-2003 |
Is it relevant what type of fish it is? If not, is it relevant how big the fish is? The relevant glass, is it a drinking glass? a window? glass from a frame? from a furniture? glasses? just a shattered piece of glass? If the last, is it relevant what is was before it was shattered? The other relevant people; 1? 2? 3? 4? 5? More than 5? Any of these things relevant Gender? occupation? hobbies? relationship with dead man? age? Is it relevant where the toll booth is? If so, is it in a location where you would expect to find one? | ||
| Swimmergirl78 (Swimmergirl78)
New member Username: Swimmergirl78 Post Number: 17 Registered: 9-2007 |
Are the booth windows broken? yope Did the man break them? no Did the fish? yes Is it relevant what type of fish it is? If not, is it relevant how big the fish is? no The relevant glass, is it a drinking glass? a window? glass from a frame? from a furniture? glasses? just a shattered piece of glass? If the last, is it relevant what is was before it was shattered? no to all The other relevant people; 1? this one 2? 3? 4? 5? More than 5? Any of these things relevant Gender? occupation? hobbies? yes to this one relationship with dead man? age? no to above Is it relevant where the toll booth is? If so, is it in a location where you would expect to find one? yes to both | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 477 Registered: 8-2005 |
Is fishing involved? | ||
| Swimmergirl78 (Swimmergirl78)
New member Username: Swimmergirl78 Post Number: 19 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is fishing involved? yes | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 956 Registered: 6-2005 |
By toll booth, do you mean a place where they collect fees for driving on a road/bridge? Did somebody try to pay the toll collector with a fish? Was he frustrated that he didn't have the right amount of change? Was the guy in the booth a friend? Did the guy in the booth not believe the fisherman when he said he caught a fish 'this big' and so threw the fish at the toll collector to prove it? | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 480 Registered: 8-2005 |
Was the toll booth by a river? | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 503 Registered: 10-2004 |
Is the man who is dead the same man who caught the fish? | ||
| Swimmergirl78 (Swimmergirl78)
New member Username: Swimmergirl78 Post Number: 20 Registered: 9-2007 |
By toll booth, do you mean a place where they collect fees for driving on a road/bridge? yes Did somebody try to pay the toll collector with a fish? no Was he frustrated that he didn't have the right amount of change? no Was the guy in the booth a friend? no Did the guy in the booth not believe the fisherman when he said he caught a fish 'this big' and so threw the fish at the toll collector to prove it? no Was the toll booth by a river? no Is the man who is dead the same man who caught the fish? no | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 481 Registered: 8-2005 |
Is the man who caught the fish present? Does the man who caught the fish know that the other man is dea? | ||
| Petjan (Petjan)
New member Username: Petjan Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the fish frozen? fresh? Was there a projectile? missile? misunderstanding? wrong identification? Did the fish serve as a projectile? If yes, was it fired? or thrown? | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2007 |
Is the toll booth in a park or wilderness area? Is the size of the toll booth relevant? Was the broken glass responsible for the man's death? Was the fish alive when it entered the toll booth? | ||
| Gapcarp (Gapcarp)
New member Username: Gapcarp Post Number: 9 Registered: 11-2007 |
was it a case of a sword fish of sort jump out of water into window of booth, spearing the poor man? | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 222 Registered: 6-2007 |
Is the man who caught the fish present? no Does the man who caught the fish know that the other man is dea?no Is the fish frozen? no fresh? yes Was there a projectile? missile? misunderstanding? wrong identification?no to all Did the fish serve as a projectile? noIf yes, was it fired? or thrown?thus, no to both Is the toll booth in a park or wilderness area? irrel Is the size of the toll booth relevant?no Was the broken glass responsible for the man's death? no Was the fish alive when it entered the toll booth?no was it a case of a sword fish of sort jump out of water into window of booth, spearing the poor man?no, but good guess just to warn you guys, this one is really weird | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1144 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did he die of starvation? Asphyxiation? Drowning? Poisoning? | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 12 Registered: 1-2008 |
Was this some kind of weird Mafia-style threat/killing? Is the size of the fish relevant? Did the broken glass come from the toll booth itself? A car? | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 224 Registered: 6-2007 |
Did he die of starvation? Asphyxiation? Drowning? Poisoning?no to all Was this some kind of weird Mafia-style threat/killing? no Is the size of the fish relevant? noish Did the broken glass come from the toll booth itself?yes A car?no | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 15 Registered: 1-2008 |
Was the man eating the fish? Did he plan to eat it? | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 222 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was the fish purchased by the man? by someone else? Just to verify, the glass came from the toll booth, but was not part of a window nor was it in a frame, correct? Was the glass part of a door? from a sign? from a light fixture? light bulb? Is the glass related to the man's death? is the fish related to the man's death? | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 228 Registered: 6-2007 |
Was the man eating the fish? no Did he plan to eat it?no Was the fish purchased by the man? no by someone else? no Just to verify, the glass came from the toll booth, but was not part of a window nor was it in a frame, correct? tes Was the glass part of a door? from a sign? from a light fixture? light bulb? it should have been worded a phone booth wich has glass sides and roof Is the glass related to the man's death?indirectly is the fish related to the man's death?yes | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 19 Registered: 1-2008 |
Did the man freak out when he saw the fish? Did he try to jump through the window or something? Is that even relevant? Just taking a wild guess lol. | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 231 Registered: 6-2007 |
Did the man freak out when he saw the fish?no Did he try to jump through the window or something? noIs that even relevant?is what relevant? Just taking a wild guess lol. | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 226 Registered: 11-2007 |
Did the fish come through the roof of the booth? and knocked the man out? Was the glass from the roof of the booth? Was the fish attached to anything? Did the man die of a blow to the head? allergic reaction? | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 488 Registered: 8-2005 |
Is the fish still present at this time? Was the fish caught recently? less than 1 hour ago? less than 12 hours ago? less than 1 week ago? Was the dead man an angler? | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 234 Registered: 6-2007 |
Did the fish come through the roof of the booth?yes and knocked the man out?yes Was the glass from the roof of the booth? yes Was the fish attached to anything? no Did the man die of a blow to the head?yes allergic reaction?no Is the fish still present at this time? yes Was the fish caught recently?yes less than 1 hour ago? noless than 12 hours ago?yes less than 1 week ago? yes Was the dead man an angler?no | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 229 Registered: 11-2007 |
So the only thing left to figure out is why the fish came crashing through the roof of the booth, right? Was the fish dropped? thrown? catapulted? Was it dropped from a plane? Is the location of the booth relevant? | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 489 Registered: 8-2005 |
Was the fish frozen? | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 236 Registered: 6-2007 |
So the only thing left to figure out is why the fish came crashing through the roof of the booth, right? yes Was the fish dropped? yesthrown? catapulted? Was it dropped from a plane? yope Is the location of the booth relevant?no | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 233 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was it dropped from a helicopter? a hot air baloon? Was the fish dropped intentionally? Was the fish dropped by the man who caught it? | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 35 Registered: 1-2008 |
Was the fish picked up by one of the helicopters that put out fires by scooping water up from the sea, then dropped on the man? | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 238 Registered: 6-2007 |
Was it dropped from a helicopter? a hot air baloon? no to both Was the fish dropped intentionally? no Was the fish dropped by the man who caught it?yes Was the fish picked up by one of the helicopters that put out fires by scooping water up from the sea, then dropped on the man?no | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 237 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was the fish dropped from an aircraft? Was this fish the only thing that was accidentally dropped in this instance? Also, repeating the missed post from Martinfg, was the fish frozen? | ||
| Suzycute (Suzycute)
New member Username: Suzycute Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2008 |
Did the man work in the tollboth? | ||
| Suzycute (Suzycute)
New member Username: Suzycute Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2008 |
Did the tollbooth have a moveable barrier? | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 241 Registered: 6-2007 |
Was the fish dropped from an aircraft? no Was this fish the only thing that was accidentally dropped in this instance? yes Also, repeating the missed post from Martinfg, was the fish frozenno Did the man work in the tollboth?irrel Did the tollbooth have a moveable barrier?irrel | ||
| Suzycute (Suzycute)
New member Username: Suzycute Post Number: 7 Registered: 1-2008 |
Just a point of pedantry. Why did the tollbooth have a glass top? Is that standard in the US....it isn't here in the UK, sounds dangerous. Is it relevant? | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 242 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was the man who dropped the fish parachuting? hangliding? bungy jumping? some other form of airborne recreation? Was the fish dropped from a bridge? a rooftop? a mountain or cliff? | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 243 Registered: 11-2007 |
In answer to your question, Suzycute, toll booths in the US do not usually have glass tops, although phone booths with glass tops were fairly common in the 70s and 80s. I guess some still exist today, although I can't say that I have seen one in quite some time. Now that cell phones are pretty much the norm, phone booths are almost a thing of the past here in the states. | ||
| Suzycute (Suzycute)
New member Username: Suzycute Post Number: 12 Registered: 1-2008 |
Apart from crashing through the tollbooth was the fish instrumental in any other way which contributed to the man's demise? | ||
| Suzycute (Suzycute)
New member Username: Suzycute Post Number: 13 Registered: 1-2008 |
Thanks for response on glass topped booths (of whatever kind) you forgot to say whether this had relevance or not to your tortuous riddle though. | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 244 Registered: 6-2007 |
Just a point of pedantry. Why did the tollbooth have a glass top? Is that standard in the US....it isn't here in the UK, sounds dangerous. Is it relevant?Ok, I didn't write the puzzle. I would have said phone booth. However it would most likely work the same way with a metal roof. Was the man who dropped the fish parachuting? noishhangliding? bungy jumping? some other form of airborne recreation? yes Was the fish dropped from a bridge? a rooftop? a mountain or cliff?no to all | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 245 Registered: 11-2007 |
parasailing? | ||
| Alanlin (Alanlin)
New member Username: Alanlin Post Number: 79 Registered: 6-2007 |
skydiving? (or is that the same as parachuting?) | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 247 Registered: 6-2007 |
parasailing?no skydiving? (or is that the same as parachuting?)yes, I wasn't sure if it was the same thing or not so I waited for that question | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 246 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was the man holding the fish when he dropped it? or did it fall from his pocket? backpack? utility bag? Did the man need to make an emergency exit from the plane? or was he skydiving for recreation (while holding a fish, of course)? | ||
| Alanlin (Alanlin)
New member Username: Alanlin Post Number: 81 Registered: 6-2007 |
The pack on his back contained, instead of a parachute, a fish? | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 250 Registered: 6-2007 |
Was the man holding the fish when he dropped it? yesor did it fall from his pocket? backpack? utility bag? Did the man need to make an emergency exit from the plane? or was he skydiving for recreation (while holding a fish, of course)? Spoiler A man went fishing and realized he was late to go skydiving, so he had to take the fish with him. However he dropped it in the air and, falling at such a speed, it crashed through a phone booth killing the man inside. as I said, I did not come up with this | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 319 Registered: 5-2008 |
Was it likely that by teaching him this he'd misread/misinterpret/misevaulate a situation in terms of danger/risk etc.? through misapplication of the knowledge? misunderstanding of what it was he'd been taught? Would it be an obvious, foreseeable consequence of teaching him this, to someone who then witnessed him enter into this situation that threatened his life (i.e. it would have been possible to percieve the risk to his life without knowing exactly what he was thinking)? Was there a witness to the event(s) that threatened his life? relevant? Would the situation be obviously dangerous to most adults? Did he percieve the situation to be dangerous in any way? Would he have died from: quick search for a physical LTPF list of untimely deaths to replicate... impact? electric shock? the other kind of shock? something piercing them? suffocation? asphyxiation? burning? freezing? heart attack? allergies? drowning? explosion? radiation? poison? a psionic death ray? something else? | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 320 Registered: 5-2008 |
That post went in completely in the wrong place (apposed to partially?) ... perhaps I should try a puzzle that hasn't already been solved!? :P |
