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Tom, Dick, & Harry are three midshipmen (students & future officers) at the US Naval Academy. One day, they are talking about why they picked the Naval Academy over the other US Military Academies--the Air Force Academy & West Point (the academy for the army).Tom says, "My father was a marine & I want to follow in his footsteps," Dick says, "I've always loved the sea." Harry says, "My reason is unique in our class & probably in the whole history of the service academies." What is it??
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Does it have something to do with where West Point is? no Anyone who works there? no
Was it more a reason for ruling out West Point than one for choosing the naval academy? yes
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Hey Nimue, given this one is new and improved, do you want me to delete the other one?

Did Harry actually want to be a naval officer? Would he have preferred to be an officer in the Air Force or Army? Was he indifferent between the three?
If all the training was done at the same place, would he have been indifferent?
Has Harry ever been to West Point or the Air Force Academy?
Is Harry's age relevant? religion? politics? upbringing? any physical charecteristics?
Are Tom and Dick's stories relevant to this puzzle in any way other than as background?
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Hey Nimue, given this one is new and improved, do you want me to delete the other one? YES< PLEASE DO!!

Did Harry actually want to be a naval officer? yes Would he have preferred to be an officer in the Air Force or Army? no Was he indifferent between the three? no
If all the training was done at the same place, would he have been indifferent? no
Has Harry ever been to West Point or the Air Force Academy? irrel
Is Harry's age relevant? noreligion? nopolitics? noupbringing? noany physical charecteristics? no
Are Tom and Dick's stories relevant to this puzzle in any way other than as background? no
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All three of these are H/A/M?
Is this puzzle historical at all?
I.e. Does it have to do with trying to be the first X in the naval academy?
X being some characteristic we have to come up with?
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All three of these are H/A/M? yes
Is this puzzle historical at all? no
I.e. Does it have to do with trying to be the first X in the naval academy? no
X being some characteristic we have to come up with? no
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Is anyone else who has ever been in the navy relevant? anyone else who has ever been in the army? the air force?
Are any of his teachers relevant? his fellow students? his potential teachers or fellow students if he'd gone to a different academy?
Is it relevant that the Navy has boats? might he decide to say, fly a plane in the navy and still want to go to their academy for the same reason?
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Is it likely that he has told his employers of his reason for choosing the Navy?
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Is Harry a Method Actor?
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Did a senator call the wrong number?
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Is anyone else who has ever been in the navy relevant? no anyone else who has ever been in the army? no the air force? no
Are any of his teachers relevant? no his fellow students? nohis potential teachers or fellow students if he'd gone to a different academy? no
Is it relevant that the Navy has boats? no might he decide to say, fly a plane in the navy and still want to go to their academy for the same reason? yes
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Is it likely that he has told his employers of his reason for choosing the Navy?Maybe he told them & maybe not. Both seem equally likely to me.
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Is Harry a Method Actor? no
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Did a senator call the wrong number? no
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Would you say Harry's reason was more a reason for: going to the Naval academy rather than one of the other academies? Not wanting to go to one of the other academies? Wanting to be a naval officer? not wanting to be an officer in one of the other forces?

His reason was unique because: it is unlikely that someone in his circumstance would choose to go to the Naval academy? it is unlikely that anyone would ever be in the same circumstances? he has some relevant charecteristic which no-one else has ever had?
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Would you say Harry's reason was more a reason for: going to the Naval academy rather than one of the other academies? see next answer Not wanting to go to one of the other academies? yes Wanting to be a naval officer? no not wanting to be an officer in one of the other forces? yesish

His reason was unique because: it is unlikely that someone in his circumstance would choose to go to the Naval academy? noit is unlikely that anyone would ever be in the same circumstances? yes he has some relevant charecteristic which no-one else has ever had? Well, not no one in the world, but it's rare enough that no one else at his academy & possibly no one ever at the Naval Academy has had it
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If anybody who wanted to join the military went to the same academy and only decided afterwards which branch they wanted to join, would Harry have chosen to join the navy for the same reason? If there was no academy but simply training on the job would he have chosen the Navy for the same reason?
Is the differences between the activities performed by the three branches relevant? Or just differences in the academies?
Would Harry have been allowed to attend one of the other academies if he wanted to? If not, forbidden by law? The academy staff? Family?
If he had joined a different academy, would he have been unhappy? Embarrassed? Unable to do as well as in the naval academy?
Are his unusual circumstances concerning him? Physically? Mentally? His background? Family? People he knows?
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If anybody who wanted to join the military went to the same academy and only decided afterwards which branch they wanted to join, would Harry have chosen to join the navy for the same reason? If there was no academy but simply training on the job would he have chosen the Navy for the same reason? yes
Is the differences between the activities performed by the three branches relevant? no Or just differences in the academies? no. These 2 "no's" are not a typo.
Would Harry have been allowed to attend one of the other academies if he wanted to? yes If not, forbidden by law? The academy staff? Family?
If he had joined a different academy, would he have been unhappy? see next answer Embarrassed? yes Unable to do as well as in the naval academy? no
Are his unusual circumstances concerning him? yes Physically? no Mentally? no His background?see next answer Family? yes People he knows? see previous answer
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Is Harry's full name relevant? Does he have the same name as anyone famous? A famous military person?
Would there be something that others would find amusing about him training at the army or air force academy? Supposing he wanted to train as say a medic with one of the three branches, so would be performing effectively the same job whichever he chose-would he still have chosen the navy?
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Is Harry's full name relevant? yes Does he have the same name as anyone famous? yope A famous military person? yope
Would there be something that others would find amusing about him training at the army or air force academy? yesSupposing he wanted to train as say a medic with one of the three branches, so would be performing effectively the same job whichever he chose-would he still have chosen the navy? yes
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Is it his name in conjunction with the academies that people would find amusing?
Is Harry's christian name actually Harry? Henry? Harrison? Is his christian name relevant at all?
Should we find his last name? Do his first name and last name together sound like a word? A phrase? A name? A person? Something which has a connection with the army and airforce, but not the navy? Or has a connection with the navy but noit the other two? Is Harry's name the only relevant characteristic he has?
If someone who didn't know he had any connection to the military at all heard his name, would they find it amusing? If not, would they find it amusing if they were then told that he was in the air force/army? If they were told that he was in the navy?
Are the actual words army, navy, air force or West Point relevant?
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Is it his name in conjunction with the academies that people would find amusing?yesish
Is Harry's christian name actually Harry? irrel Henry? ditto Harrison? dittoIs his christian name relevant at all?no
Should we find his last name? yes Do his first name and last name together sound like a word? no A phrase? no A name? noA person? no one in particular Something which has a connection with the army and airforce, but not the navy?yopeOr has a connection with the navy but noit the other two? no Is Harry's name the only relevant characteristic he has? no
If someone who didn't know he had any connection to the military at all heard his name, would they find it amusing? yesish If not, would they find it amusing if they were then told that he was in the air force/army? yes If they were told that he was in the navy? yope
Are the actual words army, navy, air force or West Point relevant? no
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Are the uniforms of the different branches relevant at all? The various ranks one can achieve? Is there some position that exists in the air force and army that when coupled with Harry's last name sounds funny? Or embarrassing? Is Harry's last name a common one? Would it help to guess the obviou like Smith, Jones etc? Or would it be more helpful to solve the rest of the puzzle then find his name?
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Are the uniforms of the different branches relevant at all? no The various ranks one can achieve? yes Is there some position that exists in the air force and army that when coupled with Harry's last name sounds funny? yes Or embarrassing? yesish Is Harry's last name a common one? no Would it help to guess the obviou like Smith, Jones etc? no Or would it be more helpful to solve the rest of the puzzle then find his name? Find out the rank!!
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Any of these relevant (shamelessly copied and pasted):
Officers :

General of the Army> General> Lieutenant General> Major General> Brigadier General> Colonel> Major> Captain> First Lieutenant> Second Lieutenant

Warrant Officers :

Chief Warrant Officer (W-4)> Chief Warrant Officer (W-3)> Chief Warrant Officer (W-2)> Warrant Officer

Enlisted Personnel :

Sergeant Major of the Army> Command Sergeant Major or Sergeant Major> First Seargeant or Master Sergeant> Sergeant First Class> Staff Sergeant> Speacialist 6> Sergeant> Specialist 5> Corporal> Speacialist 4> Private First Class> Private

NAVY : -

Officers :

Fleet Admiral> Admiral> Vice Admiral> Rear Admiral (Upper half)> Commodore (Wartime only)> Rear Admiral (Lower half)> Captain> Commander> Lieutenant Commander> Lieutenant> Lieutenant (Junior grade)> Ensign

Warrant Officers :

Same as Army

Enlisted Personnel :

Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy> Master Chief Petty Officer> Senior Chief Petty Officer> Chief Petty Officer> Petty Officer First Class> Petty Officer Second Class> Petty Officer Third Class> Seaman> Seaman Apprentice> Seaman Recruit

AIR FORCE : -

Officers :

General of the Air Force> General> Lieutenant General> Major General> Brigadier General> Colonel> Lieutenant Colonel> Major> Captain> First Lieutenant> Second Lieutenant

Warrant Officers :

Same as Army

Enlisted Personnel :

Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force> Chief Master Sergeant> Senior Master Sergeant> Master Sergeant> Technical Sergeant> Staff Sergeant> Sergeant of Senior Airman> Airman First Class> Airman> Airman Basic
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Any of these relevant (shamelessly copied and pasted):
Officers :

General of the Army> General> Lieutenant General> Major General> Brigadier General> Colonel> Major> Captain> First Lieutenant> Second Lieutenant

Warrant Officers :

Chief Warrant Officer (W-4)> Chief Warrant Officer (W-3)> Chief Warrant Officer (W-2)> Warrant Officer

Enlisted Personnel :

Sergeant Major of the Army> Command Sergeant Major or Sergeant Major> First Seargeant or Master Sergeant> Sergeant First Class> Staff Sergeant> Speacialist 6> Sergeant> Specialist 5> Corporal> Speacialist 4> Private First Class> Private

NAVY : -

Officers :

Fleet Admiral> Admiral> Vice Admiral> Rear Admiral (Upper half)> Commodore (Wartime only)> Rear Admiral (Lower half)> Captain> Commander> Lieutenant Commander> Lieutenant> Lieutenant (Junior grade)> Ensign

Warrant Officers :

Same as Army

Enlisted Personnel :

Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy> Master Chief Petty Officer> Senior Chief Petty Officer> Chief Petty Officer> Petty Officer First Class> Petty Officer Second Class> Petty Officer Third Class> Seaman> Seaman Apprentice> Seaman Recruit

AIR FORCE : -

Officers :

General of the Air Force> General> Lieutenant General> Major General> Brigadier General> Colonel> Lieutenant Colonel> Major> Captain> First Lieutenant> Second Lieutenant

Warrant Officers :

Same as Army

Enlisted Personnel :

Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force> Chief Master Sergeant> Senior Master Sergeant> Master Sergeant> Technical Sergeant> Staff Sergeant> Sergeant of Senior Airman> Airman First Class> Airman> Airman Basic The relevant rank is Colonel. Now it should be easy!!
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So he wanted to become Colonel Mustard? Colonel Sanders?
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sorry.... he *didn't* want to become Colonel Mustard, Colonel Sanders?
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So he wanted to become Colonel Mustard? Colonel Sanders?
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sorry.... he *didn't* want to become Colonel Mustard,yes Colonel Sanders?no. Remember, he said maybe no one in the whole history of the Naval Acad. had this reasonj for avoiding the army & air force. "Sanders' is a common name; 'Mustard' is not.

******* SPOILER ***********
Harruy Mustard wanted to attend one of the US military academies & then pursue a lifelong military career. But he didn't want to be Colonel Mustard (a character in the board game "Clue." So he chose the Navy. Why on earth was this puzzle so much easier than Korean Puzzle#4? Anyway, I'm putting a new one at the bottom of the page. I'd like to say a harder one. But apparently I'm a lousy judge of that.

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