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Tweek (Tweek)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 1:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's 9:05 am, and Adam is late for class. He wakes up immediately, puts on his contacts and some fresh clothes, grabs his wallet and keys, puts on his backpack, rushes upstairs and outside, closes and locks the front door behind him, runs into his car, starts it, puts it into reverse and speeds down the driveway ...

and then, halfway down, he slams on the brakes.

He puts his car into park, exits without shutting it off, and runs quickly to the front door. He rings the doorbell eight times rapidly, then immediately runs back to his car and rushes to class.

Why did Adam do this?
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 2:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is his eyesight relevant?
would he have done this routine if he had 20/20 vision?
did he wake in his home? relevant what kind of home?
is someone else in the place that he left?
did he ring the foorbell of the door that he had just exited?
is he a student?
is it relvant whether he is a student?
relevant that he goes upstairs to get out?
Tweek (Tweek)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 2:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sixtyeight:
is his eyesight relevant? no
did he wake in his home? yes relevant what kind of home? not really
is someone else in the place that he left? no
did he ring the doorbell of the door that he had just exited? yes
is he a student? yes
is it relevant whether he is a student? no
relevant that he goes upstairs to get out? no
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 2:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

if he was walking to school would he have also stopped en route and come back to ring the bell?

is Adam H? A? M?
is he in good health?
when he rings the bell does it make a sound? relevant?
does anything else happen when he rings the bell?

could Adam have rung the bell just after locking the door?
are any of the wallet/keys/backpack details relevant?
If his name was Charlie would the puzzle work the same?
Booklover (Booklover)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 2:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does he have ocd?
Tweek (Tweek)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 2:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sixtyeight:
if he was walking to school would he have also stopped en route and come back to ring the bell? maybe

is Adam H? human? yes A? adult? he's 18 M? male? yes
is he in good health? yes
when he rings the bell does it make a sound? yes relevant? yes
does anything else happen when he rings the bell? yes

could Adam have rung the bell just after locking the door? yes
are any of the wallet/keys/backpack details relevant? be more specific
If his name was Charlie would the puzzle work the same? yes

Booklover:
does he have ocd? no
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 3:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


quote:

...grabs his wallet and keys, puts on his backpack,...



if the above were omitted from the statement would the puzzle still work? would we be missing a vital hint?

does the doorbell go "ding-dong"?
does he ring the bell with his finger?
would he have come back for the bell if he weren't late?
Tweek (Tweek)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 3:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sixtyeight:
'...grabs his wallet and keys, puts on his backpack, ...'
if the above were omitted from the statement would the puzzle still work? yes would we be missing a vital hint? no

does the doorbell go "ding-dong"? yes
does he ring the bell with his finger? yes
would he have come back for the bell if he weren't late? maybe
~damia~ (~damia~)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 9:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does he live with anyone else? had he promised to wake someone else up?
Bentarm (Bentarm)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 1:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

could he have achieved the same effect by knocking on the door? By shouting really loudly? by ringing an actual bell right outside his front door?
Is the doorbell switch attached to something as well as his doorbell?
Could he have achieved the same effect by ringing the bell 7 times? 9 times?
Is he sending a message to someone?
Tweek (Tweek)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 3:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

~damia~:
does he live with anyone else? yes had he promised to wake someone else up? good idea, but no

Bentarm:
could he have achieved the same effect by knocking on the door? yes By shouting really loudly? no by ringing an actual bell right outside his front door? no
Is the doorbell switch attached to something as well as his doorbell? no
Could he have achieved the same effect by ringing the bell 7 times? yes 9 times? yes
Is he sending a message to someone? no
Bentarm (Bentarm)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 3:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he pretending to be a visitor? Pretending that there was someone still in the house?
Did he want someone to see him ringing the bell? a neighbour?
Is there anything inside the house which is relevant? any animal?
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 3:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the intent of ringing the bell to... wake somebody up? Alert somebody to a problem? Alert somebody to a pleasant surprise? Announce that he was leaving?

If he tried to wake somebody up, would they... wake up? come to open the door? notice a problem? Notice something that wasn't there before? Notice something that was there before?
Did Adam leave something in the house? Something that he was supposed to take with him? Something that he was supposed to leave there for himself? Something he was supposed to leave there for the other person? Are any animals relevant to this story? An animal that needs to go to the bathroom? An animal that barks? Is valentine's day relevant?
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 5:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He puts his car into park, exits without shutting it off, and runs quickly to the front door. He rings the doorbell eight times rapidly, then immediately runs back to his car.

If that that was the only bit of the puzzle, would it work?
Tweek (Tweek)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 5:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bentarm:
Was he pretending to be a visitor? sorta Pretending that there was someone still in the house? no
Did he want someone to see him ringing the bell? no a neighbour? no
Is there anything inside the house which is relevant? yes any animal? yes

Dlcygnet:
Was the intent of ringing the bell to... wake somebody up? no Alert somebody to a problem? no Alert somebody to a pleasant surprise? no Announce that he was leaving? no

Did Adam leave something in the house? no
Something that he was supposed to take with him? no
Something that he was supposed to leave there for himself? no
Something he was supposed to leave there for the other person? no
Are any animals relevant to this story? yes
An animal that needs to go to the bathroom? no
An animal that barks? yes
Is valentine's day relevant? no
Bentarm (Bentarm)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 5:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did ringing the bell make the dog bark?
Was he just checking that the dog was in the house?
Booklover (Booklover)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 5:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he want the dog to bark? did he want to make sure it barked when the bell rang? was the dog being used as protection--instead of an alarm system?
Tweek (Tweek)
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Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 5:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did ringing the bell make the dog bark? yep
Was he just checking that the dog was in the house? yep

SPOILER: the front door was left open. Adam didn't notice this in his rush to get out, but he realized that his dog might have went outside, and possibly still be lying on the driveway somewhere, when he backed his car up.

Rather than waste time unlocking the door and searching the house for him to see if his dog was inside, he went to the front door and rang the doorbell repeatedly; many dogs are conditioned to run to the front door and bark in response. He heard barking, decided that his dog was safely inside, ran back to his car, and drove off to class.

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