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Billy was accused of being rude, even though it wasn't really his fault.
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Some type of pun?
Is it not his fault because he does not know something that others expect him to?
Is this 'something' a social rule of engagement; that is to say, is he forgetting to shake someone's hand at the appropriate time, etc.?
Or is this 'something' a less conventional bit of knowledge, i.e., a company trade secret?
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Some type of pun? No
Is it not his fault because he does not know something that others expect him to? Yope
Is this 'something' a social rule of engagement; that is to say, is he forgetting to shake someone's hand at the appropriate time, etc.? Noish
Or is this 'something' a less conventional bit of knowledge, i.e., a company trade secret? No
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Was he accused of being rude because he said something? Did something?

Was what he did/said considered rude only in certain cultures? If someone else did what Billy was accused of, would Billy have considered that rude?
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Was he accused of being rude because he said something? This one Did something?

Was what he did/said considered rude only in certain cultures? No If someone else did what Billy was accused of, would Billy have considered that rude? No
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Did he insult somebody? Or say something that he shouldn't have said? Or did the listeners think he did? Is a mishearing involved?
Are the circumstances in which Billy said it relevant? Or would he have been accused of being rude whatever the circumstances?
Did he make a statement? Ask a question? Is it relevant who the speech was directed at? Who was listening at the time? Who exactly accused Billy of being rude?
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When you say it wasn't his fault, do you mean that Billy didn't mean to sound rude? Was he in fact saying something ordinary, but it simply sounded rude? Or do you mean that what Billy said was truly rude, but he was in some way justified? handicapped?
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Did he insult somebody? Yesish Or say something that he shouldn't have said? Yes Or did the listeners think he did? No Is a mishearing involved? No
Are the circumstances in which Billy said it relevant? Yes Or would he have been accused of being rude whatever the circumstances? Yes
Did he make a statement? Yes Ask a question? No Is it relevant who the speech was directed at? Yes Who was listening at the time? Yes Who exactly accused Billy of being rude? Yes
When you say it wasn't his fault, do you mean that Billy didn't mean to sound rude? Yes Was he in fact saying something ordinary, but it simply sounded rude? No Or do you mean that what Billy said was truly rude, but he was in some way justified? Yesish handicapped? Noish
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Was he simply stating frankly a characteristic of a person? For example, maybe he called someone who was overweight - fat? Wasn't really his fault since it was true, but perhaps he is a little simple such as our old friend Forrest Gump, and simply states things as they are?
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Royalty involved? Or any other important person? Celebrity? Famous person? Is Billy H? A? M?
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Was he simply stating frankly a characteristic of a person? Yope Wasn't really his fault since it was true, but perhaps he is a little simple such as our old friend Forrest Gump, and simply states things as they are? No
Royalty involved? No Or any other important person? No Celebrity? No Famous person? No Is Billy H? Yes A? No M? Yes
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So Billy is a child? Relevant how old exactly? Was it not his fault because he was too young to know any better? He didn't realise what he said would be an insult?
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So Billy is a child? Yes Relevant how old exactly? Yope Was it not his fault because he was too young to know any better? Yes He didn't realise what he said would be an insult? Yes
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is he 0 - 5? 6 - 10? 11 - 15? older?

did he say the rude thing in his house? outside somewhere? in a public place?

did he say it to a family member? friend of the family? his friend? parents of a friend? stranger?
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is he 0 - 5? 6 - 10? about this 11 - 15? older?

did he say the rude thing in his house? No outside somewhere? No in a public place? Yope

did he say it to a family member? No friend of the family? No his friend? Noish parents of a friend? No stranger? No
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HINT: It's happening in a school. Billy is a student.
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Are they having a mock trial in a class?

I retuuuuuuuuuurn! Hello everyone! ^__^
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Are they having a mock trial in a class? No
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relevant what subject he was learning?

the person who said he was rude was..
his teacher?
principal?
fellow student?

the person who someone said he had insulted was...
the teacher?
principal?
fellow student?

did the whole class hear what Billy said?
did he say something in resonse to a question?
if so...
from the treacher?
principal?
fellow student?
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relevant what subject he was learning? No

the person who said he was rude was..
his teacher? This
principal?
fellow student?

the person who someone said he had insulted was...
the teacher? Yope
principal?
fellow student?

did the whole class hear what Billy said? Yes
did he say something in resonse to a question? Yesish
if so...
from the treacher? Yes
principal?
fellow student?
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Did he quote what he'd heard someone else say? e.g. his parents? His parents had been indiscreet about the teacher and he merrily passed it on? Or did he say something that would have been OK in another context? If he'd been older, for instance?
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Did he quote what he'd heard someone else say? Yesish e.g. his parents? No
His parents had been indiscreet about the teacher and he merrily passed it on? No
Or did he say something that would have been OK in another context? No
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Was he quoting a TV show? A movie? A radio show? Was he singing a song? Speaking a prayer? Reading a book aloud? Reciting a bible verse (Hey! Song of Soloman gets pretty raunchy). Is he a big fan of Full Metal Jacket?
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Was he quoting a TV show? A movie? A radio show? Was he singing a song? Speaking a prayer? Reading a book aloud? Reciting a bible verse (Hey! Song of Soloman gets pretty raunchy). Is he a big fan of Full Metal Jacket? No to all
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RECAP:

Billy was accused of being rude because of what he said, even though it wasn't really his fault (since he wasn't aware of something). He is a human, non-adult, male student at school (he's about 6-10). What he said would be considered rude in all circumstances. It was a simple statement. The speech was directed at his teacher. In a way, he was stating a characteristic of a person. He was too young to know what he was actually saying. He said in in response to the teacher's question. He was, sort of, quoting someone else.

And hint: the teacher's sex is relevant. There are also other persons involved.
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Does he use the word cow? Bitch? Any other word for an animal? Any word that has both an innocent and vulgar meaning, along those lines?
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Was he making a comment about his teacher's weight? age? other physical quality?
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did he make a rude comment about teachers in general?
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Does he use the word cow? Bitch? Any other word for an animal? No, no and no Any word that has both an innocent and vulgar meaning, along those lines? No
Was he making a comment about his teacher's weight? age? other physical quality? This one
did he make a rude comment about teachers in general? No
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Did he make a comment about his teacher's hair? eyes? skin? height? clothing? race? birthmark?

Was his teacher male? female?

Was the teacher of the same race as Billy? same nationality?

Did the teacher have some sort of physical handicap?
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Did he make a comment about his teacher's hair? eyes? skin? noish height? clothing? race? birthmark? No to rest

Was his teacher male? female? Female

Was the teacher of the same race as Billy? Irr same nationality? Irr

Did the teacher have some sort of physical handicap? No
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Did he talk about her anatomy (and by "anatomy"...you know what I mean)?
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Did he talk about her anatomy (and by "anatomy"...you know what I mean)? Yep
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The upper part?
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The upper part? Not at all, unless the teacher had some peculiar anatomy
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Was something deformed?
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Was something deformed? No

I also suggest to think about the other person involved
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Was the other person H? A? M/F? Was it a classmate? Did his teacher say that he was being rude, or someone else?
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Was the other person H? A? M/F? Human adult male Was it a classmate? No Did his teacher say that he was being rude, or someone else? Billy's teacher said that Billy was rude
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Was the subject of his rudeness a teacher? His teacher? A principal? A guest speaker?
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Was the subject of his rudeness a teacher? His teacher? This very teacher that said he was being rude A principal? A guest speaker?
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was the man in the same room when Billy was rude? had Billy heard the rude thing from him first?

did Billy say something about her bottom? legs?
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was the man in the same room when Billy was rude? Yes had Billy heard the rude thing from him first? Yes

did Billy say something about her bottom? This one legs?
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do we need to know exactly what was said? did he compliment her bottom? did he think he was complimenting her?
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do we need to know exactly what was said? Not necessarily the exact words did he compliment her bottom? Yes did he think he was complimenting her? No
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Agh, I just realized...

did he compliment her bottom? Yope
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Did he say something related to food? Sex? Animals? Fatness? Flatness?
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Was he complimenting her cooking? Which came out entirely wrong? I.e. cooking rump roast... "has the finest rump in town"?
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Did he say something related to food? Sex? Yope Animals? Fatness? Flatness? No to rest
Was he complimenting her cooking? Which came out entirely wrong? I.e. cooking rump roast... "has the finest rump in town"? Cooking? Cooking has nothing to do with the riddle
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So, small recap:

The rude thing that Billy said was something he heard from another man. He didn't know what it meant, and was unaware that he was being offensive.
What did he say? You pretty much determined that - a compliment about the teacher's, um, gluteus maximus.
What is left to deterine are minor details: why was the boy compelled to repeat after the man?
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Was the man Billy's father? other relative?
Was it the principal? was it the teacher's husband?
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Was the man Billy's father? other relative?
Was it the principal? was it the teacher's husband? No to all
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were the boy and the man playing a game?
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No
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Was the man real(like opposite from imaginary, or ghost)?
Relationship of man with Billy relevant?
Relationship of man with teacher relevant?
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Was the man real(like opposite from imaginary, or ghost)? Yes
Relationship of man with Billy relevant?
Relationship of man with teacher relevant? Let's just say, he was an inspector who was sitting in class to see how good they teach in here, but his exact profession is irrevelant
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Was the sneaky inspector whispering "the answer" to a question to Billy (just to have some fun on his expense)? or did Billy think the inspector was telling him the answer?
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Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, February 15, 2008 - 5:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the sneaky inspector whispering "the answer" to a question to Billy (just to have some fun on his expense)? or did Billy think the inspector was telling him the answer? The latter!

*** SPOILER ***

This is another joke I know:

An inspector came to Billy's class (1st grade) to inspect the learning process. The teacher, eager to show him the children's progress, procedeed to write a short sentence on the blackboard; halfway through the sentence, she dropped the chalk and stooped down to reach for it. Then, she said:
"Billy, read what is written on the blackboard?"
Billy loudly says: "What a nice a*s!"
"How dare you!" the angry and embarrassed teacher shouts. "After class, we'll go to the headmaster! And tomorrow come with your parents!"
Billy begins sobbing and turns back to the inspector, saying:
"If you can't read, don't whisper answers!"

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