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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 7:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If only John had not been sick the week before, he would have not been in jail today.
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 7:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

John=h?a?m?

John = "he" that is in jail?

how much time is John likely to serve: 1 day? 1 week? 6 months? 1 year? 10 years? more than 10 years?

true story?

"the week before" = before something specific? did a memo arrive when he was out sick? relevant what he was sick with?

lots of negatives in the sentence, to clarify: John was out sick, a memo arrived, he did not get said memo, and now he in jail?

is there a murder involved? a conspiracy? is John a criminal? is John a murderer?

is John's sickness relevant?

is John's job white collar? blue collar? relevant?

does not receiving the memo directly relate to him being in jail?
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

John=h?a?m? yes to all

John = "he" that is in jail? yes

how much time is John likely to serve: 1 day? 1 week? 6 months? 1 year? 10 years? more than 10 years? not sure, maybe between one and ten years...

true story? no, just fmoi

"the week before" = before something specific? no, he just missed work that week did a memo arrive when he was out sick?yes relevant what he was sick with? no

lots of negatives in the sentence, to clarify: John was out sick, a memo arrived, he did not get said memo, and now he in jail? yes indeed, you are correct

is there a murder involved?this a conspiracy? is John a criminal?no is John a murderer? he is

is John's sickness relevant? no

is John's job white collar? blue collar?I think more like this relevant? his job is relevant

does not receiving the memo directly relate to him being in jail? yes
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 8:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the memo addressed to him? only him? did the memo have specific details that made John go kill? was it a generic memo that if I had received it I would just think "oh, another boring memo"?

I'm sure someone better than me can spill out a list of weapons/type of murders, but would it be relevant to go down that path?

did John murder: his boss? a coworker? a family member? a human?

did John try to cover up the murder? was it done at night or something so as to try and not be caught? was he caught red handed?

does John think he's justified in his murder?

did John ever receive the memo?

was the murder committed at work?

is this an instance where the memo said something like "the cleaning crew will be here early tomorrow" and they arrived, and john mistook them for thieves and opened fire?
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 9:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the memo addressed to him?no only him? nodid the memo have specific details that made John go kill?no was it a generic memo that if I had received it I would just think "oh, another boring memo"?no

I'm sure someone better than me can spill out a list of weapons/type of murders, but would it be relevant to go down that path? no, it was a gun

did John murder: his boss? a coworker? a family member?none of these a human? yes

did John try to cover up the murder?no was it done at night or something so as to try and not be caught?no was he caught red handed? yes

does John think he's justified in his murder?yesish

did John ever receive the memo? no

was the murder committed at work? yes

is this an instance where the memo said something like "the cleaning crew will be here early tomorrow" and they arrived, and john mistook them for thieves and opened fire?no to this
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 11:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is any alibi relevant?
did missing the memo spoyl an alibi?
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 11:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is any alibi relevant?
did missing the memo spoyl an alibi? no to both
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 3:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If John had seen the memo would the murder have happened?
If John had not been sick, would the murder have happened?

so, John is not a criminal? is any crime involved?

did John murder a customer? a stranger?
was the murder commited while john was out sick?
During John's work hours?
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 3:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If John had seen the memo would the murder have happened? no
If John had not been sick, would the murder have happened? no

so, John is not a criminal? sorry, hope I didn't mislead but: before the murder, no is any crime involved? other than the murder, no

did John murder a customer? a stranger? this
was the murder commited while john was out sick? no
During John's work hours? yes
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 4:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was john attacked? was John defending himself?

did John bring a gun to work? Does John usually carry a gun? Does someone else at work carry a gun?

Is John in law enforcement? security?

Did john mistake the stranger for someone else? did he speak to the stranger before shooting?
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Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 6:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was john attacked?yesish or yope was John defending himself? yes

did John bring a gun to work?yes (he probably brought it with him, but doesn't usually carry it while he works) Does John usually carry a gun?yes Does someone else at work carry a gun? not sure, but irr.

Is John in law enforcement? security? none of these

Did john mistake the stranger for someone else?no did he speak to the stranger before shooting? no
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Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 2:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

any of these fields of work relevant?

Artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Security / Law Enforcemant?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation /Livery / Trucking ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
Other?
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Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 11:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

any of these fields of work relevant?

Artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ? this, looking for specific job
Politics / Government / Military ?
Security / Law Enforcemant?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation /Livery / Trucking ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
Other?
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Morgue attendant? Mortician? Pathologist? Nurse? Doctor? Pharmacist?

If he'd received the memo he would have understood what was going on and reacted differently? Any sort of drill/test/audit going on? Prank?
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Morgue attendant? Mortician? Pathologist? Nurse?this Doctor? Pharmacist?

If he'd received the memo he would have understood what was going on and reacted differently?yes, exactly Any sort of drill/this, a drilltest/audit going on? Prank?
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Relevant the type of patients with which he dealt? Does (well, did) he work at a regular hospital? Clinic? Retirement home? Mental hospital/sanitarium? Was the person he killed pretending to be a patient? An addict? Did the person have a weapon?
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Relevant the type of patients with which he dealt?the patients themselves aren't important, but it is important which department in the hospital he used to work Does (well, did) he work at a regular hospital?yes
Clinic? Retirement home? Mental hospital/sanitarium?no to these

Was the person he killed pretending to be a patient?no An addict?no Did the person have a weapon?noish or yope
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Was the victim another hospital employee? Was the victim helping to put on the drill? Did he work with patients? Physical therapy? Children?
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Was the victim another hospital employee?no Was the victim helping to put on the drill?yes

Did he work with patients? Physical therapy? Children?john worked with patients including children, but not in physical therapy
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Was the victim employed by (some level of) the government? Was it an emergency drill? Fire drill? Was the victim an actor? John works in:
Cardiac?
Critical Care?
Surgery?
Imaging?
Radiology?
Emergency?
HBO?
ICU?
Laboratory?
Pediatric?
Respiratory?
Pharmacy?
Trauma center?
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Was the victim employed by (some level of) the government? possibly Was it an emergency drill? yesish or yope Fire drill?no Was the victim an actor? possibly
John works in:
Cardiac?
Critical Care?
Surgery?
Imaging?
Radiology?
Emergency?this
HBO?
ICU?
Laboratory?
Pediatric?
Respiratory?
Pharmacy?
Trauma center?
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The victim was coming into the ER as a patient? As a relative/friend/companion of a patient?
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The victim was coming into the ER as a patient? As a relative/friend/companion of a patient?sorry, but none of these
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Was he (she?) got up as an ax-wielding maniac? Chainsaw-waving killer? Giant spider? Shark? Ninja? Pirate? Suicide bomber?

You did say he felt threatened/acted in self-defense, right?
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Was he (she?) got up as an ax-wielding maniac? Chainsaw-waving killer? Giant spider? Shark? Ninja? Pirate? Suicide bomber?

You did say he felt threatened/acted in self-defense, right?john did feel threatened and acted in self defense, but the victim was none of the above (though that was an impressive list!)
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Any of the villainous types what appeared in Blazing Saddles (Nazis, klansmen, banditos etc.)? And I left out T-rex or velociraptor...either of them? Guy in a hockey mask? Vampire? Zombie? Animated skellington? Barry Manilow? Penguins with machetes?

Any relevant third parties involved?

Oooh, forgot this one too: Disgruntled Postal Worker?
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Any of the villainous types what appeared in Blazing Saddles (Nazis, klansmen, banditos etc.)? And I left out T-rex or velociraptor...either of them? Guy in a hockey mask? Vampire? Zombie? Animated skellington? Barry Manilow? Penguins with machetes?another colorful list! but alas, no

Any relevant third parties involved? yes

Oooh, forgot this one too: Disgruntled Postal Worker?good one! but no again
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Gangster? Did the victim "threaten" him?
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Gangster?no Did the victim "threaten" him?yesish, but beware of fa
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OK, the victim said something? Was carrying something? Wearing a certain thing?
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OK, the victim said something?yes Was carrying something?possibly Wearing a certain thing?no
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The relevant third party - someone being threatened by the victim?

And you're sure it wasn't a ninja-pirate-zombie-penguin, right? I mean, those are really scary...and kind of cute, all at the same time.
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The relevant third party - someone being threatened by the victim? yesish

And you're sure it wasn't a ninja-pirate-zombie-penguin, right? I mean, those are really scary...and kind of cute, all at the same time.oh wait...maybe it was! : ) just kidding!
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hint in white below
Check out my response to your "Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 6:56 pm" question regarding the victim and his relation to the drill...
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ooops, maybe I should have posted my hint in gray!
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Not is physical therapy? OH!!!
Physcology relevant? Was the victim acting like he was a maniac ?
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Not is physical therapy? OH!!! nope, john works as a nurse in the ER
Physcology relevant?no Was the victim acting like he was a maniac ?possibly
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The victim was trying to force John to do something specific by threatening someone else (well, pretending to, and all)? Was the third party also a non-horsepistol employee? Was the third party a single individual? Known to John?
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The victim was trying to force John to do something specificno to this by threatening someone else (well, pretending to, and all)?but yes to this
Was the third party also a non-horsepistol employee?yes, the 3rd party had no guns Was the third party a single individual?no Known to John?yes
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Well, at least I know what I'm going to be for Halloween next year - I wonder how hard it is to find ninja-pirate-zombie-penguin costumes?

Did the victim seem rational? Threatening others in the ER? Patients? Staff? All of the above? Specific articulated threats?
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What, no rogue albatross that dressed like a penguin and 3 legs?

Did the 3rd party talk to John? Did the 3rd person(Let's call him... Tim!) "warn" John of the person? Were the victim's actions relevant?
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Well, at least I know what I'm going to be for Halloween next year - I wonder how hard it is to find ninja-pirate-zombie-penguin costumes? i think party city has a few...

Did the victim seem rational?possibly Threatening others in the ER?yes, he was threatening others in the ER Patients?no Staff?this All of the above? no Specific articulated threats?yes

What, no rogue albatross that dressed like a penguin and 3 legs? would be nice, but no...

Did the 3rd party talk to John?no Did the 3rd person(Let's call him... Tim!) "warn" John of the person?how about third parties...we can assume Tim was part of them....no they did not warn john about the victim Were the victim's actions relevant?yes
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Was the drill intended for the hospital staff? Did John come upon the victim threatening his cow-orkers?
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Was the drill intended for the hospital staff?YES Did John come upon the victim threatening his cow-orkers?YES
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Is someone really threatening cow workers with a horse pistol???
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That's cow-orkers, not cow-workers. Sheesh. (:
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So not realizing it was a drill, John came upon someone threatening his cow-orkers and shot the guy, right? This was in the ER? Were they being threatened with imminent bodily harm or even death? Were they supposed to comply with some kind of instructions? Did he want something from them?
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So not realizing it was a drill, John came upon someone threatening his cow-orkers and shot the guy, right?yes, exactly! This was in the ER?yes Were they being threatened with imminent bodily harm or even death? Were they supposed to comply with some kind of instructions? Did he want something from them?yes to these...you are sooooo close to the answer!
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What he wanted - drugs? Gurneys? Wheelchairs? Splints? Defibrillators? Bedpans? To not have to fill out insurance forms?
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Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 11:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What he wanted - drugs? Gurneys? Wheelchairs? Splints? Defibrillators? Bedpans? To not have to fill out insurance forms?none of these
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Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 3:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he want access to something? To some place? To destroy something? To kidnap someone? Medical attention?
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Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 7:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he want access to something? To some place? To destroy something? To kidnap someone? Medical attention?none of these
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Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 7:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Money? Valuables? Tongue depressors? Cotton balls? Hypodermics? Sphygmomanometers? Thermometers? Germs? Viruses? Blood?
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Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 8:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Money? Valuables? Tongue depressors? Cotton balls? Hypodermics? Sphygmomanometers? Thermometers? Germs? Viruses? Blood?none of these...you're on the wrong track with his motive...
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Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He didn't want something physical?
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Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 3:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He didn't want something physical?he really didn't want anything....
hint in graysame hint--Check out my response to your "Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 6:56 pm" question regarding the victim and his relation to the drill...
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Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 6:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, the victim was acting out a part in a drill, right? And John came upon him threatening his cow-orkers and shot him, right? John believed they were in physical danger and the "actor" was armed? He didn't know it was a drill because he was out sick the week before? And the only piece we don't have is how/with what the victim was threatening them?
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Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 7:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, the victim was acting out a part in a drill, right? And John came upon him threatening his cow-orkers and shot him, right? John believed they were in physical danger and the "actor" was armed? He didn't know it was a drill because he was out sick the week before? And the only piece we don't have is how/with what the victim was threatening them?you've basically got it all, so I'll make that a spoiler-- (I don't think I even had in mind with what the victim was threatening them).

************ SPOILER *****************
John was out the week before with something (let's say flu) and missed a memo which stated that the ER was going to partake in a "hostage crisis drill"--basically train them what to do in case somebody came in and threatened them (let's say with a gun or something). John thought it was a real crisis situation, pulled out his gun (he lives in some state which allows someone to carry a registered concealed weapon) and shot the man, thinking he would be hailed a hero. Instead, he was jailed for murder.

Thanks to Bodo for sticking with the puzzle and spoiling--though his ninja-pirate-zombie-penguin would have been a sight to see!

I came up with this idea after remembering that a friend of mine years ago had to participate in these hostage crisis situations as an ER nurse. I thought, hmmm, what would happen if she came in and thought it was the real thing instead of a drill. Thanks for playing!

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