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Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 4:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When I found out Clyde was a racist, I was glad that this was my day for getting a flu shot. How come?
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Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was Clyde going to give you the flu shot?
Did you find out on the same day? Is it relevant how you found out?
Is Clyde white? black? hispanic? Jewish? Is he racist against whites? blacks? hispanics? Jews?
Would someone else (of a different race) have suffered if it had been their day to get a flu shot?
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Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 11:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You as in you? or someone else? H?A?F?
Clyde H?A?M?

Is the year of this event relevant?
The location in which this occurs relevant? nation?
I know you are far too young to have been around for any of these, young lady
1889-90?
1918-20?
1957-58?
1968-69?

Some particular strain of the flu relevant? Asian flu? Avian flu?
B/Shanghai/361/2002 strain relevant?
Influenza B?
B/Yamagata/1688?
B/Hong Kong/330/2001?
Victoria?
Yamagata?
Fugian?
Wyoming?
New York?
Shandong?
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Was Clyde going to give you the flu shot?no
Did you find out on the same day? yes Is it relevant how you found out? yes
Is Clyde white? black? hispanic? Jewish? He could be any race or ethnicity. In the actual case, he was white Is he racist against whites? no blacks? no hispanics? no Jews?no
Would someone else (of a different race) have suffered if it had been their day to get a flu shot? no
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You as in you? FN hersef or someone else? H? yesA? In the actual incident, I was a teenager, but In could have been ad adultF? yes
Clyde H? yesA? yesM? yes but irrel

Is the year of this event relevant? no
The location in which this occurs relevant? yesishnation? no
I know you are far too young to have been around for any of these, young lady
1889-90?
1918-20?
1957-58?
1968-69? It copuld be any of these dates & surely you're not suggesting that I don't seem sophisticated enough to have been around for a LONG time!!

Some particular strain of the flu relevant? no Asian flu? Avian flu?
B/Shanghai/361/2002 strain relevant?
Influenza B?
B/Yamagata/1688?
B/Hong Kong/330/2001?
Victoria?
Yamagata?
Fugian?
Wyoming?
New York?
Shandong?
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Did Clyde receive a flu shot? Did you meet Clyde before you received the flu shot? after? Did you find out he was racist before you received the flu shot? after? during?
Is your relationship to Clyde relevant? family? father? brother? friend? boyfriend? workmate? stranger?
Did you find out about Clyde being racist because it was your turn to receive a flu shot? (and otherwise might not have found out until later?)
Is Clyde racist against some specific race of people? Does he regard his own race as superior to some other race? to all other races? One particular race as inferior?
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Did Clyde receive a flu shot? irrel Did you meet Clyde before you received the flu shot? irrel after? ditto Did you find out he was racist before you received the flu shot? possibly after? possibly during? no
Is your relationship to Clyde relevant? yes family? father? brother? friend? boyfriend? workmate? stranger? stranger
Did you find out about Clyde being racist because it was your turn to receive a flu shot? no(and otherwise might not have found out until later?)
Is Clyde racist against some specific race of people? yes Does he regard his own race as superior to some other race? probably to all other races? irrel One particular race as inferior? well, he made a racist remark about one particular race, but it didn't explicitly express a feeling of superiority on his part
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Was Clyde present at the place where you got a flu shot?
Did you meet Clyde at the place where you got a flu shot?
Did you ever have a conversation with Clyde? Did you have a conversation because you found out he was a racist? Did you find out he was a racist because you were having a conversation with him? Did you find out he was a racist because you overheard him speaking with someone else?
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Was Clyde present at the place where you got a flu shot?
Did you meet Clyde at the place where you got a flu shot? no
Did you ever have a conversation with Clyde? yope Did you have a conversation because you found out he was a racist? yesish Did you find out he was a racist because you were having a conversation with him? no Did you find out he was a racist because you overheard him speaking with someone else? yes
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Was Clyde present at the place where you got a flu shot? no
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Was Clyde racist against... a particular religion? Asians? Austrailians? Brits? europeans? French? Dutch? Indians? Russians? Native Americans? Pacific Islanders?

Does your joy over getting the flu shot have to do with... actually receiving the shot? Who paid for the shot? The administrator of the shot? The origin of the vaccine? What happened before receiving it? What happened after receiving it? The effect of receiving it? Being able to say "I've got the flu."?

Did Clyde get on your nerves? And you wanted him to leave you alone? So you pointed out that you had just gotten the vaccine? And might be contagious? And weren't feeling well?
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Was Clyde racist against... a particular religion? Asians? Austrailians? Brits? europeans? French? Dutch? Indians? Russians? Native Americans? Pacific Islanders? His racistremark was about Chinese people, but all that's relevant is that it was not against a group to which either he or I appeared to belong

Does your joy over getting the flu shot have to do with... actually receiving the shot? no Who paid for the shot? no The administrator of the shot? no The origin of the vaccine? no What happened before receiving it? yes What happened after receiving it? The effect of receiving it? yesBeing able to say "I've got the flu."? no

Did Clyde get on your nerves? yes And you wanted him to leave you alone? no So you pointed out that you had just gotten the vaccine? no. See above--he wasn't talking to me--the racist remark was something I overheard And might be contagious? no And weren't feeling well? no
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The effect of having received the flu shot... immunized you? Is this meant to be a play on words? I.e. Thick skinned? Immunized to that sort of scum? Viral language?
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The effect of having received the flu shot... immunized you? that's not the crucial point Is this meant to be a play on words? no I.e. Thick skinned? noImmunized to that sort of scum? no Viral language? no
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Did you say something to Clyde about his racist remark?
Would you have been able to say the same thing if it weren't for the flu shot?
Did you say something about being immunised against racism? about racism being worse than flu?
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Is this at all similar to the puzzle about faking a sneeze to make a point? i.e. "Achoo. Wow. I can't be getting the flu... must be allergic to racists."
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Did you say something to Clyde about his racist remark? noish
Would you have been able to say the same thing if it weren't for the flu shot? yes
Did you say something about being immunisedagainst racism? no about racism being worse than flu? no
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Is this at all similar to the puzzle about faking a sneeze to make a point?no i.e. "Achoo. Wow. I can't be getting the flu... must be allergic to racists.
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Is it relevant specifically what Clyde said? Who he said it to?
Any other relevant person(s) involved?
if so, any relevant chinese people involved?

The relevant effect of the flu shot:
a physical side effect?
the intended immunization?
the mark from the shot itself?
someone else's reaction to your having had the shot?
a mental effect of the shot (for instance, feeling relieved that you wont get the flu)?

is it relevant who is administering the flu shots?
if so, is that person chinese?




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Did you say something to Clyde about his racist remark? noish




Does this mean you reacted to his comment, but not verbally? Did you give him a look? Do something to him? Gesture at him?
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Is it relevant specifically what Clyde said? no Who he said it to? yope
Any other relevant person(s) involved? yes
if so, any relevant chinese people involved? yes

The relevant effect of the flu shot:
a physical side effect? yes
the intended immunization? no
the mark from the shot itself? no
someone else's reaction to your having had the shot? no
a mental effect of the shot (for instance, feeling relieved that you wont get the flu)? no

is it relevant who is administering the flu shots? no
if so, is that person chinese? irrel



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Did you say something to Clyde about his racist remark? noish



Does this mean you reacted to his comment, but not verbally? yes Did you give him a look? yope Do something to him? yes Gesture at him? noish
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Is this physical side effect one that results from having a needle stuck in your arm? would you also have it if you'd given blood? had an injection to immunise you against MMR? Is it also a side effect of actually having flu?

Did he say something to a specific chinese person? Was it a statement which contained factual innaccuracies? Or just distasteful opinions?

Did you show him your scar from the flu jab?
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Did you try and infect him with the flu? This would have been so much better if civilians could get vaccinated against small pox *evil cackle of impending doom upon you all*

Was your reaction to him...
Hostile?
Spiteful?
Happy?
Friendly?
Over-niceness?
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Did you try and infect him with the flu? no This would have been so much better if civilians could get vaccinated against small pox *evil cackle of impending doom upon you all*

Was your reaction to him...
Hostile? yope
Spiteful? yope
Happy? no
Friendly? yope
Over-niceness? yope
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*nudges* Missed Bentarm's questions.

Have you ever caught the flu from the flu shot? Did you miss work from catching the flu?
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Is this physical side effect one that results from having a needle stuck in your arm? no would you also have it if you'd given blood? I'm not sure had an injection to immunise you against MMR? yes Is it also a side effect of actually having flu? yes

Did he say something to a specific chinese person? no Was it a statement which contained factual innaccuracies? no Or just distasteful opinions? yope

Did you show him your scar from the flu jab? no
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*nudges* Missed Bentarm's questions. Done, with my deepest apologoes

Have you ever caught the flu from the flu shot? no Did you miss work from catching the flu? no
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Did you pretend you were catching the flu from your flu shot? Is there a certain reaction you get from having needles stabbed in you? Allergic? (trying to find correlation between MMR and flu) Would/Did you become mildly ill from either injection? Have a reaction that physically/visibly manifested itself? Have a reaction that fatigued/mentally wore you out?
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Did you pretend you were catching the flu from your flu shot? no Is there a certain reaction you get from having needles stabbed in you? no Allergic? no (trying to find correlation between MMR and flu) Would/Did you become mildly ill from either injection? no Have a reaction that physically/visibly manifested itself? no Have a reaction that fatigued/mentally wore you out? no
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Is it the puncture mark from receiving the shot that is relevant? The bandaid they put on your arm? Something else that physically remained behind? Other than the immunization effect?
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Is it the puncture mark from receiving the shot that is relevant? no The bandaid they put on your arm? no Something else that physically remained behind? yesishOther than the immunization effect? yes
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Did you throw up on him?
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Did you throw up on him? No--although he deserved it
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Did you spill something on him? And blame the shot?
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Did you spill something on him? no And blame the shot? no
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The something else that physically remained behind... was it a side effect of the flu shot? Flu symptoms? A particular flu symptom? Achy-ness? Fever? Soreness where the needle punctured you? runny nose? Watery eyes? Hot flashes? Cold flashes? The desire to impale all healthy people on a serated stick?
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The something else that physically remained behind... was it a side effect of the flu shot? yes Flu symptoms? no A particular flu symptom? no Achy-ness? no Fever? noSoreness where the needle punctured you? norunny nose? no Watery eyes? no Hot flashes? no Cold flashes? no The desire to impale all healthy people on a serated stick?nooooooooo
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HINT: Think about the advice given to people before they get a flu shot.
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Is the advice given by a medical personnel?
Is it advice connected to the possible side effects? Like don't drive for a certain amount of time ater the shot? General health advice that you might get before any medical procedure? Specific to vaccinations? Specific to injections? (If you were getting the polio vac which is taken on sugar cubes, would you get the same advice?)
Does the advice mean you shouldn't do something? Should do something?
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Is the advice given by a medical personnel?yes
Is it advice connected to the possible side effects?yes Like don't drive for a certain amount of time ater the shot? that's not it but you're ORT (on the right track) General health advice that you might get before any medical procedure? no Specific to vaccinations? yesSpecific to injections? (If you were getting the polio vac which is taken on sugar cubes, would you get the same advice?) I think so
Does the advice mean you shouldn't do something? yes Should do something? see previous answer
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So you are advised not to do a specific thing after the shot? For a certain period of time after the shot, or permanently?
Or do they tell you that you shouldn't do the thing in the time leading up to the shot?

Is it connected to eating or drnking? Don't eat? Don't drink? Don't eat/drink a specific substance (alcohol?)
If you were to do the thing that you were advised not to do, would you get ill? Die?
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So you are advised not to do a specific thing after the shot? yes For a certain period of time after the shot about 24 hours, or permanently? no
Or do they tell you that you shouldn't do the thing in the time leading up to the shot? no

Is it connected to eating or drnking? no Don't eat? no Don't drink? no Don't eat/drink a specific substance (alcohol? no)
If you were to do the thing that you were advised not to do, would you get ill? possibly Die? no
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Did they advise you to avoid human contact? Avoid touching the injection site? You should not operatate heavy machinery for at least 24 hours? You should not go near any toxic substances for 24 hours?

Could the instruction imply you should not go near that guy for at least 24 hours?
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Did they advise you to avoid human contact? no Avoid touching the injection site? noYou should not operatate heavy machinery for at least 24 hours? no You should not go near any toxic substances for 24 hours? no

Could the instruction imply you should not go near that guy for at least 24 hours? no
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Did the advice given to you give you an excuse to get out of something that you would otherwise have had to do? Something with Clyde? That you wouldn't have wanted to do because you disagreed with his racist beliefs?
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Did the advice given to you give you an excuse to get out of something that you would otherwise have had to do? no Something with Clyde? no That you wouldn't have wanted to do because you disagreed with his racist beliefs? no
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Did the advice mean that you didn't have (did have?) something relevant in your possession? that you did go (didn't go?) somewhere relevant? did (didn't?) do something relevant?
Are you advised to avoid some behaviour that would normally result in a worsening of flu symptoms? like coming into contact with someone with the flu? strenuous exercise?
If you hadn't been advised not to do the thing that you were advised not to do, would you have done it? relevant?
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Did the advice mean that you didn't have no (did have?) something relevant in your possession? yes that you did go no(didn't go? yope) somewhere relevant? did no (didn't? yes) do something relevant?
Are you advised to avoid some behaviour that would normally result in a worsening of flu symptoms? yope like coming into contact with someone with the flu? nostrenuous exercise? YES__THAT'S IT> I WAS ADVISED NOT TO ENGAGE IN AEROBIC EXERCISE FOR 24 HOURS
If you hadn't been advised not to do the thing that you were advised not to do, would you have done it? yesrelevant? yes
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HINTS: 1.) Think about what else you do & don't do when planning to exercise. 2.) Find out the circumstances under which the racist remark was made.
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RECAP: Since you have established that the relevant thing about the flu shot was that people are often told not to engage in aerobic exercise for 24 hours after immunization, the puzzle can be rephrased as follows: When I found out that Clyde was a racist, I was glad that I knew I would not be engaging in aerobic exercise that day. How come??
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would you normally have exercised? in a gym?
would you doing aerobic exercise have put you in the same place as Clyde? same room?
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would you normally have exercised? yes in a gym?Yeech, no.
would you doing aerobic exercise have put you in the same place as Clyde? no same room? no
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relevant what excercise you would have done? jogging? walking? hiking? basketball? a sport?

would Clyde's undesirable effect on you have happened on the same day that you would have exercised?
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relevant what excercise you would have done? yes jogging?\
b{ this would work for the puzzle} walking? yes hiking? this would work for the puzzle basketball? Who, me? a sport? ditto. Eating is my favorite (& only) sport.

would Clyde's undesirable effect on you have happened on the same day that you would have exercised? yes
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Do you change your clothes before exercise? your shoes? After exercise? Do you shower? Wash your hair? Do you time your eating round your exercise? Any of this relevant?
Did you hear Clyde say he would be in a particular place that day? That Chinese people would be in a particular place?
DId you have a regular place for exercise?
Did you use your exercise time for some other purpose?
Was Clyde speaking to one person? a group? Was a Chinese person (people) in earshot? in view? Did he make a derogatory remark about their features? eyes? size? colour? home country? skills?
Was Chinese New Year relevant?
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Do you change your clothes before exercise? see next answer your shoes? yes After exercise? yes Do you shower? yes but irrel Wash your hair? irrel Do you time your eating round your exercise? irrel Any of this relevant? just the shoes
Did you hear Clyde say he would be in a particular place that day? noThat Chinese people would be in a particular place? no
DId you have a regular place for exercise? yope
Did you use your exercise time for some other purpose? no
Was Clyde speaking to one person? yes a group? no Was a Chinese person (people) in earshot? no in view? no Did he make a derogatory remark about their features? eyes? size? colour? home country? skills? The precise content of the offemnsive remark is irrel
Was Chinese New Year relevant? no
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So you didn't exercise... therefore you didn't change your shoes... and those shoes were made by Chinese? Sweatshop kids? Is there anything special about your shoes that's relevant to this puzzle? Did you stick your stinky shoes in his locker to get revenge?

Wow, I'm tired... I've been doing so well at these.
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Were you buying? or did you need new walking shoes?
Is the place where you keep your shoes relevant? Clyde's job? his residence?
If you had exercised that day, would you have met Clyde? heard him? been affected by his actions?
Before you had your shoes on? while putting them on? wearing them? after removing them?
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So you didn't exercise... therefore you didn't change your shoes yes... and those shoes were made by Chinese? irrel Sweatshop kids? no Is there anything special about your shoes that's relevant to this puzzle? yes Did you stick your stinky shoes in his locker to get revenge? no

Wow, I'm tired... I've been doing so well at these.
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Were you buying? no or did you need new walking shoes? no
Is the place where you keep your shoes relevant? no Clyde's job? no his residence? no
If you had exercised that day, would you have met Clyde? heard him? possiblybeen affected by his actions? yes
Before you had your shoes on? no while putting them on? no wearing them?possibly after removing them? possibly
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Was Clyde's remark made in the media? tv? radio? newspaper? magazine?

THis may sound strange but is throwing your shoe in anger relevant?

Wild guess!!! You heard his racist remark and threw a shoe in anger which fell down a hole or something. You had just purchased a new pair of expensive trainers and were relieved you hadn't been wearing them instead?

Is the cost or newness(?) of your walking shoes or trainers relevant?
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would Clyde have been aware of whether or not you were wearing the shoes?
is the brand of shoes relevant?
are they running shoes?
is there more to reveal about the properties of the shoes?
relevant where you put the shoes on?
relevant what you do when the shoes are on?relevant where you take them off?
relevant what you do after you take them off?
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Was Clyde's remark made in the media? no tv? no radio? no newspaper? no magazine? no

THis may sound strange but is throwing your shoe in anger relevant? no

Wild guess!!! You heard his racist remark and threw a shoe in anger which fell down a hole or something. You had just purchased a new pair of expensive trainers and were relieved you hadn't been wearing them instead? no

Is the cost or newness(?) of your walking shoes or trainers relevant? no
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would Clyde have been aware of whether or not you were wearing the shoes? probably
is the brand of shoes relevant? no
are they running shoes? possibly, but rememberr I WASN'T exercising that day
is there more to reveal about the properties of the shoes? yes
relevant where you put the shoes on? no
relevant what you do when the shoes are on?relevant where you take them off?
norelevant what you do after you take them off? no
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Some properties of "the shoes" are relevant: does this refer to the shoes you would have worn for exercising? Or the shoes you were wearing because you weren't exercising?

You were glad you wouldn't be exercising that day: because something bad would happen if you were to exercise? Or because something good would happen because you weren't going to exercise?

Did not exercising allow you to get some revenge on Clyde? prove a point to him?
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Some properties of "the shoes" are relevant: does this refer to the shoes you would have worn for exercising? yes Or the shoes you were wearing because you weren't exercising? yes

You were glad you wouldn't be exercising that day: because something bad would happen if you were to exercise? no Or because something good would happen because you weren't going to exercise? see next answer

Did not exercising allow you to get some revenge on Clyde? yes prove a point to him? no
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So because you were wearing your non-exercise shoes, you were able to get some revenge on Clyde? that you wouldn't have been able to get if you'd been wearing your exercise shoes?

Any of the following shoe properties relevant:
color?
material?
shape?
height (e.g. heels)?
ease of removal?
presence or absence of laces?
presence or absence of buckles?
sound you make while walking in them?
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So because you were wearing your non-exercise shoes, you were able to get some revenge on Clyde?yes that you wouldn't have been able to get if you'd been wearing your exercise shoes? yes

Any of the following shoe properties relevant:
color? no
material? yes
shape?yes
height (e.g. heels)?yes
ease of removal? no
presence or absence of laces? no
presence or absence of buckles? no
sound you make while walking in them? no. I think this puzzle is now ready to be torn arart by a buzzard's claws, which I hope she will also direct to my other puzzles.
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Your non-exercise shoes had high heels?
Were you therefore able to see something you otherwise wouldn't have seen?
Or was somebody (Clyde?) able to see you, when they otherwise wouldn't have?
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Your non-exercise shoes had high heels? yes
Were you therefore able to see something you otherwise wouldn't have seen? no
Or was somebody (Clyde?) able to see you, when they otherwise wouldn't have? no
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The shoe material is relevant: Did your non-exercise shoes contain leather? fabric? wood? plastic? other synthetic?

When you heard Clyde's racist remark, did you get your revenge right then and there? Or did you do it somewhat later?

To get your revenge, did you say something? make a gesture? show someone your shoes? take your shoes off? do something else with your shoes?
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The shoe material is relevant: Did your non-exercise shoes contain leather? yes fabric? no wood? no plastic? no other synthetic? no

When you heard Clyde's racist remark, did you get your revenge right then and there?yes Or did you do it somewhat later? no

To get your revenge, did you say something? yesish make a gesture? yesish show someone your shoes? no take your shoes off? no do something else with your shoes? yes
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Did you show him the bottom side of your shoe? Although... I thought that was only an offense in the middle east...
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Did you show him the bottom side of your shoe?no or maybe noish-ish Although... I thought that was only an offense in the middle east... irrel!!
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Hi, Nimue. Long time no see ;-))

Did you kick him/step on his foot/attack him physically?
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Hi, Nimue. Long time no see ;-))

Did you kick him/step on his foot/attack him physically? Yes!!
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When I heard a lowlife in a grocery store say something about "the little chink who runs the laundry," I was very glad I was about to have a flu shot, because it meant that I would not be taking a long walk that day & hence was wearing not my soft-soled walking shoes, but a pair of shoes with sharp little French heels, one of which found its way onto his toe as I exited the store. "Oh, I'm so sorry," I said sweetly, lacking the courage to say, "Compliments of the 'chink'."Yes, I know you shouldn't attack people physically just because they say something disgusting. But a saint I ain't.Thanks for sticking with it everyone & for solving it, Alizon, & please check out my new puzzle you-know-where.

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