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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 8:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Uncle Bill was scattered just as he requested, but no ashes could be found.
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Uncle Bill: human adult male? Is it relevant that he is an uncle?

Were the ashes of his body scattered? Or any other ashes? If yes, did they disappear somehow? Did they blow away? Were cleaned up?
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Teleporter technology relevant here? Scattering of molecules? Absent-minded professor sort of scattered?

Are funeral arrangements even relevant?
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Enjay:

Uncle Bill: human adult male? yes Is it relevant that he is an uncle? no

Were the ashes of his body scattered? no, FA Or any other ashes? no If yes, did they disappear somehow? Did they blow away? Were cleaned up? see above

Dlcygnet:

Teleporter technology relevant here? no Scattering of molecules? yes, but not individually Absent-minded professor sort of scattered? no

Are funeral arrangements even relevant? yes
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Is Bill dead? Or at last, was he dead when he was scattered? Is the reason no ashes could be found simply because there were no ashes to start with?
Was Bill divided in any way in order to be scattered?
Scattered as in pieces distributed in various places, or whatever the usual definition of the word is?
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Enjay:

Is Bill dead? yes Or at last, was he dead when he was scattered? that too Is the reason no ashes could be found simply because there were no ashes to start with? yes
Was Bill divided in any way in order to be scattered? yes
Scattered as in pieces distributed in various places, or whatever the usual definition of the word is? yes
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Was he cut up? I.e. his body was cut into X number of large pieces and set to the far corners of the earth? Sliced and diced? Was his "scattered" state an accident? Intentional? Does this take place in... North America? Europe? South America? Asia? Middle East? Africa? Austrailia? Pacific islands? Atlantic Islands? Antarctica? On earth?

Is this at all similar to the story of Isis and Osiris? (Osiris was cut up into pieces by his evil brother and each piece was burried in different places).
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Dlcygnet:

Was he cut up? no I.e. his body was cut into X number of large pieces and set to the far corners of the earth? Sliced and diced? no Was his "scattered" state an accident? no Intentional? yes Does this take place in... North America? Europe? South America? Asia? Middle East? Africa? Austrailia? Pacific islands? Atlantic Islands? Antarctica? could be any of these....US, but not relevant On earth? yes

Is this at all similar to the story of Isis and Osiris? (Osiris was cut up into pieces by his evil brother and each piece was burried in different places). no, good idea though
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Is the method of Bill's "scattering" the key to this puzzle? Is it an unusual way to have one's... remains... scattered?

Was Bill frozen? And then shattered?
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Dlcygnet:

Is the method of Bill's "scattering" the key to this puzzle? no Is it an unusual way to have one's... remains... scattered? no

Was Bill frozen? yes And then shattered? yesish, explore
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He melted? Evaporated? Wound up as part of the rain cycle? Did somebody take a saw to him? Crushed like an ice cube?
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Dlcygnet:

He melted? Evaporated? Wound up as part of the rain cycle? Did somebody take a saw to him? Crushed like an ice cube? no to all, keep working on it...you'll get it
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did he thaw back out? is it one of those cryogenic type things? I think the general idea of those is hoping that one day in the future he can be cured? but if he asked to be scattered not sure how that works - did he ask to be? or did he have his head frozen so one day it could be attached to a monkey body or something?
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Does this have anything to do with the vacuum of space? Getting scattered accross the universe?
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Damia:

did he thaw back out? eventually is it one of those cryogenic type things? no I think the general idea of those is hoping that one day in the future he can be cured? it is, but not relevant here but if he asked to be scattered not sure how that works - did he ask to be? let's say yes or did he have his head frozen so one day it could be attached to a monkey body or something? no

Dlcygnet:

Does this have anything to do with the vacuum of space? Getting scattered accross the universe? no to both
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Is the method of Bill's freezing relevant? Liquid Nitrogen? Stuck in a meat cooler? <insert>?

Is Terminator relevant? (thinking of the bad guy in Terminator 2 who got super-cooled and shattered on the highway).

Is it just his scattering that's relevant at this point? I.e. he was dropped from a high altitude and *ker-spling* ice shards everywhere?
Was he put inside a box, then put inside another box, mailed to his greatest enemy, and when the package arrived, that person hit the box with a hammer??? Or did they decide to save on postage?
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Dlcygnet:

Is the method of Bill's freezing relevant? Liquid Nitrogen? this one Stuck in a meat cooler? <insert>? final temp is -320 F or -195 C

Is Terminator relevant? no (thinking of the bad guy in Terminator 2 who got super-cooled and shattered on the highway). Undestand why you would think that. Bill was a good guy

Is it just his scattering that's relevant at this point? yes I.e. he was dropped from a high altitude and *ker-spling* ice shards everywhere? that would be rather messy...no not that way
Was he put inside a box, probably then put inside another box, no mailed to his greatest enemy, his family would never do this and when the package arrived, that person hit the box with a hammer??? Or did they decide to save on postage? this is a more civilized process...
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Was his wish to a complete organ donor, thus his body parts were "scattered" to different recipients?
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Lporter229:

Was his wish to a complete organ donor, thus his body parts were "scattered" to different recipients? no, but good thinking
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Was his body "in tact" when it was frozen? or was it frozen in pieces?

Was there a funeral service? Was his frozen body present at his funeral service?

Was he frozen into a solid block of ice and dropped to the bottom of the ocean to become "fish food"?
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Is this a true story? Does it involve the head being frozen in a tub and the rest of the body being frozen elsewhere?
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Lporter229:

Was his body "in tact" when it was frozen? yes or was it frozen in pieces? no

Was there a funeral service? yes Was his frozen body present at his funeral service? yes, FA lurking

Was he frozen into a solid block of ice yes and dropped to the bottom of the ocean to become "fish food"? no

Dlcygnet:

Is this a true story? inspired by similar stories that are going on all the time Does it involve the head being frozen in a tub and the rest of the body being frozen elsewhere? no
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Was he freeze dried and turned into a powder similar to ashes?
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Lporter:

Was he freeze dried no and turned into a powder similar to ashes? yes

He was frozen solid as one piece, then somehow, without dropping, crushing or pounding he was turned into a powder similar to ashes....put your thinking caps on!
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Space burial?
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Tsoram1970:

Space burial? No
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Longshot - Bill's frozen remains were somehow evaporated into the atmosphere and fell back to earth as snow (powder)?
Was the change from a one-piece object to powder done by artificial/man-made means? Or natural means?
Is geography relevant here? Bill's hobbies? Possibly instructions given by Bill to his family either while he was alive or stated in his last will?
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Ixoye:

Longshot - Bill's frozen remains were somehow evaporated into the atmosphere and fell back to earth as snow (powder)? That would be cool....nice idea, not the case here
Was the change from a one-piece object to powder done by artificial/man-made means? yes Or natural means? no
Is geography relevant here? Bill's hobbies? no to both Possibly instructions given by Bill to his family either while he was alive or stated in his last will? could very well be
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Allright, another longshot then (and sort of a stomach-turning one) - was Bill turned into an ice sculpture? The carving (sick, I know) created powder and the rest of him melted away...?

Is/was Bill's job relevant?
Did the man-made process involve a machine? more than one? a tool? more than one?
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Ixoye:

Allright, another longshot then (and sort of a stomach-turning one) - was Bill turned into an ice sculpture? The carving (sick, I know) created powder and the rest of him melted away...? no...that would be interesting too...I'm sure someone would say its art. Not this time

Is/was Bill's job relevant? no
Did the man-made process involve a machine? yes more than one? no a tool? more than one? not really a tool
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Well, if he wasn't crushed, it wasn't a giant wooden badger what did for him...

Trebuchet? Fired from a cannon?
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Bodo:

Trebuchet? Fired from a cannon? nothing so grand I'm afraid, although there might just be a market for that
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Was a plane(as in the tool) involved? or a pick?

Was the process an instananeous thing (like "poof")? or is it something that happened over time? seconds? minutes? hours? days? weeks? months? years?
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Lporter:

Was a plane(as in the tool) involved? or a pick? no to both

Was the process an instananeous thing (like "poof")? no or is it something that happened over time? yes seconds? minutes? minutes to hours hours? days? weeks? months? years?
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Was his entire body turned to powder? of equal granule size? was any part left whole?

did he donate his body for some research?
was it necessary to freeze his body in order to turn it into powder?

was his body prepared in another way other than freezing? drying? a chemical added? was water removed from the body?
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Er, wood chippers relevant?
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Sixtyeight:

Was his entire body turned to powder? yes of equal granule size? yes was any part left whole? no

did he donate his body for some research? no
was it necessary to freeze his body in order to turn it into powder? yes

was his body prepared in another way other than freezing? drying? a chemical added? was water removed from the body? no to all

Bobo:

Er, wood chippers relevant?ewww....no
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Weak hint: The intent of this process was to be more environmentally friendly
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Relevant how his remains are scattered after they become a powder? Is that the environmentally friendly part? Or just that he was turned to a powder by freezing rather than incineration? In which case, the means by which he is turned into a powder required little or no energy?
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Lporter:

Relevant how his remains are scattered after they become a powder? no Is that the environmentally friendly part? no Or just that he was turned to a powder by freezing rather than incineration? yes In which case, the means by which he is turned into a powder required little or no energy? no, its not about the energy used
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Does it require energy from an external source? Is an electric current passed through the ice and since it is so cold it turns to a powder from the vibration of the current?
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was he used for compost?
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Lporter:

Does it require energy from an external source? yes Is an electric current passed through the ice no and since it is so cold it turns to a powder from the vibration of the current? no, but explore

Sixtyeight:

was he used for compost? no
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is the powder he was turned into used for anything? i.e. did he kind of recycle his body?

is vibration relevant at all? electricity?
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Did they coat him in salt and let animals lick him to itty bitty pieces?
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Damia:

is the powder he was turned into used for anything? no...scattered i.e. did he kind of recycle his body? no

is vibration relevant at all? yes electricity? indirectly

Dlcygnet:

Did they coat him in salt and let animals lick him to itty bitty pieces? no, you people are crazy...I love it!
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Do they just put him onto some type of vibrating platform that turns him into dust from the vibrations?
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Did they use a jackhammer?
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Lporter:

Do they just put him onto some type of vibrating platform that turns him into dust from the vibrations? yes

Spoyler to follow
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********* SPOILER ************

As an alternative to burial, cremation is no longer green enough, say environmentalists, because it releases smoke and mercury, and thus the industry is considering "promession," in which the body is frozen in liquid nitrogen to minus-320 degrees (F) and then shaken until it disintegrates into powder.

For green burials, the United States has at least six cemeteries that require biodegradable casings and for bodies to be free of embalming chemicals. The Forever Fernwood cemetery in Mill Valley, Calif., goes even further, according to an October Los Angeles Times story, banning grave markers, but, said the owner, "We issue the family a Google map with the GPS coordinates" so they can find their loved one. [Los Angeles Times, 10-28-07; Evening Standard (London), 10-10-07]

Thanks so much guys! Lots of good work on this one!
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And we're the crazy ones (per your post on 11/29)???

Cool puzzle! What is the world coming to?

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