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Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I couldn't understand him. One day he was a proper English gentleman, the next day... Dutch!
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True story?
He = human / adult?
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
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True story? Kinda. Inspired by an article.
He = human / adult? Yes.
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Actual nationality of man relevant?
Occupation relevant?
Relationships of any kind relevant?
Time / location relevant?
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
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Actual nationality of man relevant? No.
Occupation relevant? No.
Relationships of any kind relevant? Yes.
Time / location relevant? Noish.
Beroean (Beroean)
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More than 2 people involved?
Dutch as in nationality / culture / speech / appearance / other?
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
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More than 2 people involved? Noish.
Dutch as in nationality / culture / speech / appearance / other? Other.
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is this to do with paying for a meal? ie the English gentleman offers to pay for the lady... but to have each pay their own is "going dutch"?
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is this to do with paying for a meal? ie the English gentleman offers to pay for the lady... but to have each pay their own is "going dutch"? Absolutely!
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Did he have a good reason for "going dutch"?
Was he on a date? with you? (for the purposes of this puzzle)
Did he offer to pay for a meal? Then ask to split the bill for a subsequent meal? for the same meal he had previously offered to pay for?
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Did he have a good reason for "going dutch"? Yes and No.
Was he on a date? with you? (for the purposes of this puzzle) Yes.
Did he offer to pay for a meal? No. Then ask to split the bill for a subsequent meal? No. for the same meal he had previously offered to pay for? No.
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Did he think you earn more than him?
Was it a particularly expensive meal?
Did you order something expensive?
Did he not have enough money on him?
Did you upset him / was he irked with you?
Did he wish to spend money on something else?
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
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Did he think you earn more than him? No.
Was it a particularly expensive meal? No.
Did you order something expensive? No.
Did he not have enough money on him? No.
Did you upset him / was he irked with you? No.
Did he wish to spend money on something else? Doesn't everybody? Yope.
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Was his reason for going dutch to benefit himself / you / someone else, or none of these?
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Is a third party relevant?
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Did he want to have money left over to spend on you?
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Was his reason for going dutch to benefit himself Yes / you No. / someone else Doubtful, or none of these?

Is a third party relevant? No. Just the guy who wrote the article I'm thinking of.

Did he want to have money left over to spend on you? No.
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Did you know you were going dutch when he asked you out? Just before the meal? After? Did you offer to pay half, not thinking he would accept?
Did you make some remark about women's rights?
Did he complain about the meal? Did you?
Did anything significant happen between one date and the next?
Did you see him again (or did the article not say)?
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Did you know you were going dutch when he asked you out? Just before the meal? After? This. Did you offer to pay half, not thinking he would accept? No.
Did you make some remark about women's rights? No.
Did he complain about the meal? Did you? No.
Did anything significant happen between one date and the next? No.
Did you see him again (or did the article not say)? In this hypothetical situation, no, I would not see him again. I disagree with his reason/attitude.
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Did he express views on women's rights?
Did he complain about something else? Were you late for the date? Did you spend longer in the restaurant than he had planned? Did he miss something he wanted to do afterwards? Did he get a parking fine?
Was his reason based on something you said? did? nothing to do with you at all? would he have done the same with any girl he dated?
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Did he express views on women's rights? No.
Did he complain about something else? No.
Were you late for the date? No.
Did you spend longer in the restaurant than he had planned? No.
Did he miss something he wanted to do afterwards? Besides me? No.
Did he get a parking fine? No.
Was his reason based on something you said? did? No.
nothing to do with you at all? Correct. would he have done the same with any girl he dated? Yes.
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did he just assume you were going dutch? did he only bring enough money for some of the meal? exactly half? was it only when the bill arrived that you found out you were expected to pay half? did you have money with you? or credit/debit card?
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did he just assume you were going dutch? Yes. did he only bring enough money for some of the meal? No. exactly half? No. was it only when the bill arrived that you found out you were expected to pay half? Yes. did you have money with you? Sure. or credit/debit card? Yes.
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Was his reasoning based on his upbringing? his work? training? education? family customs? an experience he'd had? a character trait? did he want to know how you'd react?
Was the previous date, where he'd paid for everything, the first date? Was he English? relevant?
Did you eat in the same place? a similar place? in the same town? country?
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Was his reasoning based on his upbringing? Possibly. his work? Possibly. training? Possibly. education? Possibly. family Possibly. customs? Possibly. an experience he'd had? Possibly. a character trait? Possibly did he want to know how you'd react? No.
Was the previous date, where he'd paid for everything, the first date? Yes. Was he English? Probably American. relevant? Somewhat, but not really
Did you eat in the same place? No. Irr a similar place? Sure. Irr in the same town? Possibly. Irr country? Yes.
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so are we looking for his reason of why he paid on the first date, but assumed you were going dutch on the second? did he ask you out on the first one? did he ask you out in a similar manner for the next date? or did you both agree to go someone together for the second? was the second date to somewhere more expensive? less? about the same?
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so are we looking for his reason of why he paid on the first date, but assumed you were going dutch on the second? You've touched on the major reason already: to save money. But yes. And why wouldn't I agree with it? did he ask you out on the first one?Sure. did he ask you out in a similar manner for the next date?Yes. or did you both agree to go someone together for the second?This too. was the second date to somewhere more expensive? less? about the same? Irrelevant. It could have been any of these.
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hmm did he misunderstand something? maybe something you said? did he think you wanted to go dutch? that you were a feminist? that you had been annoyed that he had paid last time?
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hmm did he misunderstand something? Mmm... one concept possibly. But I'd have to say no. maybe something you said? No. did he think you wanted to go dutch? No. that you were a feminist? No. that you had been annoyed that he had paid last time? No.
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Did he have some bad experience with other girlfriends regarding money? Was he divorced and ex took him everything? Does he believe that partners should have independent finances?
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Did he have some bad experience with other girlfriends regarding money? Not to my knowledge. No. Was he divorced and ex took him everything? No and no. Does he believe that partners should have independent finances? Yope - may mislead. Explore this.
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did he think you earn more money than him? or just have more money than him?
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Is it relevant whether he paid cash or credit card? Was he married? in a relationship?
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did he think you earn more money than him? No. or just have more money than him? No.

Is it relevant whether he paid cash or credit card? No. Was he married? No. in a relationship? Other than me? No.
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hmm are expenses at work relevant? is method of payment relevant? type of place you went to?
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hmm are expenses at work relevant? No. is method of payment relevant? No. type of place you went to? No.
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Did he consider this to be normal "protocol"? Did he think anybody else would behave in the same way in his position?
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Did he consider this to be normal "protocol"? Yes and no. Did he think anybody else would behave in the same way in his position? Yes and no.
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Wow, just great.
Which part did he consider normal: being a gentleman for the first date? going dutch for the second?
(where by first and second i don't mean JUST the first, or JUST the second)
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Wow, just great.
Which part did he consider normal: being a gentleman for the first date? Yes. going dutch for the second? No. (And yes. Explore)
(where by first and second i don't mean JUST the first, or JUST the second)
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Hint: There is a misunderstanding involved.
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Was this about payment for a meal at all? Or for something else?
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Is there a linguistic side to this in his mind - he asked you out on the first date so he pays; you mutually agree the second date so you share costs?
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Grainbeer
Was this about payment for a meal at all? Yes. Or something else? No.

Sunshine
Is there a linguistic side to this in his mind Yes. But... - he asked you out on the first date so he pays; Yes you mutually agree the second date so you share costs? Yope.
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is there a particular word misunderstood? one word with multiple meanings? or was the way it was used confusing? any slang involved?
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Is there any possibility that it was Dutch night at the restaurant that night? So you said, "We'll go to Dutch night at the restaurant", and he misheard as "We'll go dutch tonight at the restaurant"?
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Damia:
is there a particular word misunderstood? No.one word with multiple meanings? No. or was the way it was used confusing? No. any slang involved? {No.}

Travis:
Is there any possibility that it was Dutch night at the restaurant that night? No. So you said, "We'll go to Dutch night at the restaurant", and he misheard as "We'll go dutch tonight at the restaurant"? No, but nice jump
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Did he simply assume that it you should only pay for everything on the first date, and on the second it was a normal practice to "go dutch"? Did he hear or read someone say that? Or does he think he did? Apart from the facts we already know, is there something else relevant, that made this case look peculiar and therefore appear on a newspaper article?
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Let me rephrase it: without the facts we still don't know, would this case be in a newspaper article?
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Did he simply assume that it you should only pay for everything on the first date, and on the second it was a normal practice to "go dutch"? No. Did he hear or read someone say that? No. Or does he think he did? Does he think he did what? Apart from the facts we already know, is there something else relevant, that made this case look peculiar and therefore appear on a newspaper article? No.
Let me rephrase it: without the facts we still don't know, would this case be in a newspaper article? No.
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Mkay, bored now. I can't even find the article I was thinking of. Due to lack of interest...

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