| Author | Message | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 885 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dave was tapping on his Palm Pilot but could not for the life of him understand a single word on it. But they were very happy about it. | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1156 Registered: 6-2005 |
Dave = H?A?M? They = Dave + Somebody else? His family? Whoever he was communicating with? His business partners? He couldn't understand a word on his Palm Pilot because... the screen was blurry? The screen had art on it? The letters were scrambled? The words were in a foreign language? He had deliberately created some code to scramble messages? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 886 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlycygnet: Dave = H?A?M? yes to all They = Dave + Somebody else? no His family? no Whoever he was communicating with? yes His business partners? yes He couldn't understand a word on his Palm Pilot because... the screen was blurry? no The screen had art on it? there was art, but that is not the reason The letters were scrambled? no The words were in a foreign language? yes, but that is not entirely the reason He had deliberately created some code to scramble messages? no | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1157 Registered: 6-2005 |
Were his business partners saying something to him? Testing some code of their own him? Would it help us to learn what language he was reading the code in? Japanese? Chinese? Spanish? Was he unable to read the words because they were coming too quickly? Was this like an instant messenger situation? And he was getting messages too quickly? Were his partners just typing that quickly? Were they using voice activated typing that allowed them to speak into their end and have the words pop out on his Palm? Was their end also a palm pilot? A phone? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 888 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet: Were his business partners saying something to him? no Testing some code of their own him? no Would it help us to learn what language he was reading the code in? It is English and no, FA Japanese? Chinese? Spanish? Was he unable to read the words because they were coming too quickly? no Was this like an instant messenger situation? no And he was getting messages too quickly? no Were his partners just typing that quickly? no Were they using voice activated typing that allowed them to speak into their end and have the words pop out on his Palm? no Was their end also a palm pilot? no A phone? yope | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1634 Registered: 6-2001 |
So the foreign language was English? Dave has a very Anglo-Saxon name for a non-English speaker... is it relevant what languages Dave does speak? French? Spanish? Chinese? Japanese? ASL? BSL? Was he sending them messages via his palm pilot? Did the messages say what he wanted them to say? Can he read? Is he blind? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 889 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm: So the foreign language was English? yes Dave has a very Anglo-Saxon name for a non-English speaker... is it relevant what languages Dave does speak? <indirectly</b> French? Spanish? Chinese? Japanese? ASL? BSL? no to all Was he sending them messages via his palm pilot? yesish Did the messages say what he wanted them to say? yes Can he read? no Is he blind? no | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1647 Registered: 6-2001 |
So he can't read, but he can type messages on a palm pilot? Is he literate? Does he follow some set of instructions when typing the message? Do palm pilots have normal qwerty keyboards? relevant? Is his native language some normal spoken language from the planet Earth? from Europe? Africa? Asia? German? Portuguese? Italian? Russian? Greek? Does it use the same alphabet as English when written down? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2377 Registered: 2-2001 |
He can write but not read? Or is that he can't read English? Was he testing some translation software? Something similar? Were they seeing English at the other end? Hearing it? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 901 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm: So he can't read, yes but he can type messages on a palm pilot? no, not exactly Is he literate? no Does he follow some set of instructions when typing the message? yesish Do palm pilots have normal qwerty keyboards? this one, as I understand it, does not relevant? somewhat Is his native language some normal spoken language from the planet Earth? from Europe? Africa? Asia? German? Portuguese? Italian? Russian? Greek? Does it use the same alphabet as English when written down? yes, but not relevant Bodo: He can write not exactly but not read? correct Or is that he can't read English? that too Was he testing some translation software? no Something similar? no Were they seeing English at the other end? incorrect Hearing it? no, no audible message is used here | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2399 Registered: 2-2001 |
So he can neither read nor write any langidge, is that right? Is this particular device intended to allow illiterate folks to communicate via keyboard-type thingies? Is it their business? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 915 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo: So he can neither read nor write any langidge, is that right? yes Is this particular device intended to allow illiterate folks to communicate via keyboard-type thingies? in this case, yope...helping the illiterate is not the goal, and no keyboard is used Is it their business? no | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2406 Registered: 2-2001 |
Is this a one-off Palm Pilot? Or have more been made? Is it one designed for use by people with disabilities? Specific diseases/maladies? While he could not understand the words, did he understand what was being communicated? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 917 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo: Is this a one-off Palm Pilot? Or have more been made? As far as I know it is a regular Palm Pilot Is it one designed for use by people with disabilities? the pilot itself is not specially designed, no Specific diseases/maladies? no While he could not understand the words, did he understand what was being communicated? yes | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2408 Registered: 2-2001 |
Having never seen one, I might be unclear on how they work - is it basically a screen that he's tapping on? Is he tapping on specific symbols? Specific places? The being happy part is because it's working? Or due to the content of the message? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 921 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo: Having never seen one, I might be unclear on how they work - is it basically a screen that he's tapping on? yes Is he tapping on specific symbols? yesish Specific places? yesish The being happy part is because it's working? no Or due to the content of the message? yes | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1056 Registered: 6-2007 |
is this some sort of mobile web application? another relevant application? were there words on the screen when he was tapping? was he tapping words? icons? weblinks? did Dave have a disability? were the happy ones aware of what Dave was tapping? could they see him tapping? did they remotely receive something when Dave tapped? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 948 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: is this some sort of mobile web application? yes another relevant application? no were there words on the screen when he was tapping? no was he tapping words? icons? this one weblinks? did Dave have a disability? no were the happy ones aware of what Dave was tapping? yes could they see him tapping? noish did they remotely receive something when Dave tapped? yes! Good question! | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1058 Registered: 6-2007 |
Could Dave have tapped icons which would have made them less happy? were they developing a mobile site? is it a game? did Dave own the device? did they give Dave the device? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 949 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: Could Dave have tapped icons which would have made them less happy? possibly, but very misleading were they developing a mobile site? no is it a game? no did Dave own the device? no did they give Dave the device? yes | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1059 Registered: 6-2007 |
did they give Dave instructions when they gave him the device? Did they tell Dave what to do? Did they tell Dave what to tap? did they want to see what Dave would tap without instructions? Was Dave aware that the happy people were remotely receiving something when Dave tapped? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 950 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: did they give Dave instructions when they gave him the device? yes Did they tell Dave what to do? yes Did they tell Dave what to tap? yes did they want to see what Dave would tap without instructions? no Was Dave aware that the happy people were remotely receiving something when Dave tapped? probably, but possibly not | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1061 Registered: 6-2007 |
did they tell Dave what to expect when he tapped? relevant what sort of site Dave was on other than being a mobile site? Did they spefifically want an illiterate person to be connecting to them with the Palm Pilot? were they developers of technology? were they paying dave for this? when dave touched the screen was he making a decision? a purchase? were they associated with the site? with the device? anything relevant about Daves surroundings while using the thing? location? the Happies' surroundings? location? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 951 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: did they tell Dave what to expect when he tapped? no relevant what sort of site Dave was on other than being a mobile site? yes...HINT: Site created by the happy people Did they spefifically want an illiterate person to be connecting to them with the Palm Pilot? not necessarily were they developers of technology? indirectly, may be misleading were they paying dave for this? probably when dave touched the screen was he making a decision? a purchase? no to both were they associated with the site? yes with the device? yes anything relevant about Daves surroundings while using the thing? yes location? yes the Happies' surroundings? no location? no | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1062 Registered: 6-2007 |
for Dave's location should we explore geography.. continents, nations, etc? should we explore types of location.. ie cafe, prison, Oval Office, etc.? or both? are any occupations relevant? was the purpose of the site for communictation? was the site meant for the user to receive information? like weather, stocks, etc? was it a public site? for general mobile users? private? for specific business functions? was Dave a terrorist? involved in any illegal activity? subterfuge? mischief? were the Happies involved in any of the above? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 953 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: for Dave's location should we explore geography.. continents, nations, etc? no, Dave moves around, though the nation might be useful should we explore types of location.. ie cafe, prison, Oval Office, etc.? this could help too or both? yes are any occupations relevant? noish was the purpose of the site for communictation? yes was the site meant for the user to receive information? no like weather, stocks, etc? no was it a public site? no for general mobile users? no private? yes for specific business functions? yes was Dave a terrorist? no involved in any illegal activity? no subterfuge? no mischief? no were the Happies involved in any of the above? no | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1064 Registered: 6-2007 |
Dave.. USA? Americas? Europe? Asia? Australia? Africa? in a public place? a workplace? a retail place? private home? outdoors? indoors? somewhere with a Wi-Fi signal? wireless internet? a cell signal? Starbucks?... if no, then would he have tapped what he tapped if his location was say.. Starbucks? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 955 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: Dave.. USA? Americas? Europe? Asia? Australia? Africa? this one in a public place? a workplace? a retail place? private home? outdoors? this one indoors? somewhere with a Wi-Fi signal? wireless internet? a cell signal? this one Starbucks?... if no, then would he have tapped what he tapped if his location was say.. Starbucks?no and no | ||
| Takemeaway10 (Takemeaway10)
New member Username: Takemeaway10 Post Number: 7 Registered: 1-2008 |
Recap: Dave is outside in Africa, Unable to read/write English, Communicates on a website using icons The happy people had a phone with a web browser To clear things up, he's not illiterate; English just isn't his first language? Are these people related to Dave? Friends? Co-workers? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 958 Registered: 8-2001 |
Takemeaway: Recap: Dave is outside in Africa, yes Unable to read/write English, yes Communicates on a website using icons yes The happy people had a phone with a web browser yes To clear things up, he's not illiterate; English just isn't his first language? incorrect. He is illiterate. If I have said anything counter to this, then it is my mistake. Dave is illiterate. However, it is not due to any disability or lack of intelligence. Are these people related to Dave? Friends? Co-workers? no to all | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1068 Registered: 6-2007 |
does the outdoor setting matter? rural? urban? suburban? marine? in flight? the Happy party is receiving Dave's selections on a mobile device as well? are the symbols that Dave selects supposed to convey a specific type of message? or is it meant for general communication? was it necessary for Dave to look around him in order to make his selections onthe device? are other people relevant? objects? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 960 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sictyeight: does the outdoor setting matter? yes rural? this is closest urban? suburban? marine? in flight? no to the rest the Happy party is receiving Dave's selections on a mobile device as well? probably, but not particularly relevant are the symbols that Dave selects supposed to convey a specific type of message? yes or is it meant for general communication? no was it necessary for Dave to look around him in order to make his selections onthe device? yes are other people relevant? objects? there are others like Dave doing the same with similar objects | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1073 Registered: 6-2007 |
were the objects alive? man-made? fixtures like rocks, trees, mountains? movables like vehicles? | ||
| Whoscruffy (Whoscruffy)
New member Username: Whoscruffy Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2008 |
Dave was tap dancing as a part of a performance art piece. The piece was about breaking free of the technological chains that bind us, he was dancing, 'tapping' on top of his palm pilot. Naturally he could not read the words because the screen was destroyed by his dancing. The audience enjoyed the piece thoroughly (some enjoyed it so much they took pictures of it with their camera phones). | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 965 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: were the objects alive? yes man-made? no Frankensteins this time fixtures like rocks, trees, mountains? No movables like vehicles? they move, but not like vehicles Whoscruffy: Dave was tap dancing as a part of a performance art piece. The piece was about breaking free of the technological chains that bind us, he was dancing, 'tapping' on top of his palm pilot. Naturally he could not read the words because the screen was destroyed by his dancing. The audience enjoyed the piece thoroughly (some enjoyed it so much they took pictures of it with their camera phones). Interesting leap...um, no. For one, tap shoes in the Kalahari would be a sight to behold. Second, it would be the world's smallest performance on a Palm Pilot. Unless interrupted by a very small herd of elephants. But THAT, is another puzzle | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1074 Registered: 6-2007 |
people? animals? wild animals? plants? were they within reach of Dave? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 971 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: people? no animals? yes wild animals? yes plants? no were they within reach of Dave? could be, not necessarily | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1076 Registered: 6-2007 |
just one species? was Dave counting them? were there icons representing the animals on his PDA? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 976 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: just one species? no was Dave counting them? yope were there icons representing the animals on his PDA? yes | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1077 Registered: 6-2007 |
Did Dave need any counting skills to do what he was doing? math? did he react to certain species and not to others? if there were no animals around would he have tapped? Did the Happies know what species were in Dave's view? based on Dave's tapping? is there more relevance to Dave's surroundings? Would Dave want to put himself in an area with more animals? less animals? in an area with other properties? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 984 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: Did Dave need any counting skills to do what he was doing? yes math? no did he react to certain species and not to others? yes if there were no animals around would he have tapped? no Did the Happies know what species were in Dave's view? yes based on Dave's tapping? that too is there more relevance to Dave's surroundings? not particularly Would Dave want to put himself in an area with more animals? probably this one less animals? in an area with other properties? no | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1079 Registered: 6-2007 |
would Dave tap for a giraffe? would he tap for an animal that does not belong like a polar bear? for an insect? for a bird? a dog? for mammals? mammals only? was the age of the animal relevant? gender? was any activity of the animal relevant? were they looking for endangered animals? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 988 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: would Dave tap for a giraffe? probably not would he tap for an animal that does not belong like a polar bear? no for an insect? for a bird? a dog? for mammals? mammals only? any of these might be possible except the insect was the age of the animal relevant? gender? no to both was any activity of the animal relevant? yes were they looking for endangered animals? yes You have most of it, so... SPOYLER to follow | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 989 Registered: 8-2001 |
******* SPOILER ********* In August, the Discovery Channel reported on the equipping of Bushmen (indigenous to Africa's Kalahari Desert) with handheld Palm Pilot personal digital assistants to track animals and locate plants via special software. The illiterate hunters can tap screen icons representing various animals, the activities they're engaging in, and how many they see, with a global positioning satellite automatically recording the location. [Discovery.com, 8-1-07] Thanks for the hard work! |
