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Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 6:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A man lies dead, dressed in a hospital gown. A dozen guns are scattered around him.
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Was it murder? Suicide? An accident? Natural death?

Was the man hospitalised? Was he sick? Is there anything peculiar about his health, his physical condition or his mental condition?
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The man, H/A/M?
Are there any others present?
Is he actually IN the hospital?
The guns are of the metal, shooting variety, yes?
Was he a victim of organ harvesting?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 7:26 pm:

Was it murder? Thisish. Suicide? An accident? But more like this. Natural death?

Was the man hospitalised? Yes. Was he sick? Yes, depending on your definition of sick. Is there anything peculiar about his health, his physical condition or his mental condition? Yesish.

Blazingphoenix (Blazingphoenix)

The man, H/A/M? Yes.
Are there any others present? Yes.
Is he actually IN the hospital? No. Good point.
The guns are of the metal, shooting variety, yes? Yep.
Was he a victim of organ harvesting? No.

And just as a warning, this is a bit silly, but not beyond all reasoning.
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Did he steal the guns? Was he the legal owner of all the guns? Some of them? One of them? Are they loaded? Did he actually die of gunshot? Are they real guns? Is he a collector of guns? Is he fleeing the hospital at the time of his death? Did he die outside? Is he naked except fot the gown? Does he wear anything else of relevance?

PS Nice to see a new face in this wonderfully silly place!
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Were the people wielding the guns also present? Was he the one wielding the guns? Did he get encircled by a bunch of sexurity guys who all pointed their guns towards the middle and accidentally shot each other when he passed out from an overdose?
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Did he steal the guns? Yes. Was he the legal owner of all the guns? Some of them? One of them? No to all. Are they loaded? Irr.Did he actually die of gunshot? Yes. Are they real guns? Yes. Is he a collector of guns? No. Is he fleeing the hospital at the time of his death? No. Did he die outside? Yes. Is he naked except fot the gown? Does he wear anything else of relevance? Nothing else relevant.

PS Nice to see a new face in this wonderfully silly place! Thank you! I had an account here long ago, but I can't remember my username. XD

Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)

Were the people wielding the guns also present? FA. Was he the one wielding the guns? Yes, not sure I would say "wielding"... Did he get encircled by a bunch of security guys who all pointed their guns towards the middle and accidentally shot each other when he passed out from an overdose? No, but very nice.
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Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 2:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he shoot himself?
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The others that are present 1? 2? 3? 4? 5? more than 5? are they alive?
Is the gun that shot the man among the ones that are scattered around him?
Is the man mentally disturbed?
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Did he shoot himself? No.

Adryghi (Adryghi)

The others that are present 1? Only one relevant. 2? 3? 4? 5? more than 5? are they alive? Yes.
Is the gun that shot the man among the ones that are scattered around him? No. Good question.
Is the man mentally disturbed? Noish.
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Does the shooter believe that our hero is likely to use any of the guns? Does he keep them in a bag? Is he shot in order to protect the public? Does he have a psychiatric disorder? A collecting fetish? A paranoid delusion? A phobia? Is he pretending to be someone in particular? Is the identity of the shooter relevant?
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Does the shooter believe that our hero is likely to use any of the guns? Yes. Does he keep them in a bag? No. Is he shot in order to protect the public? Yesish. Does he have a psychiatric disorder? Not a disorder, per se, but there is something significant about his condition. A collecting fetish? A paranoid delusion? A phobia? Is he pretending to be someone in particular? No to all. Is the identity of the shooter relevant? A certan fact about him is.
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Is the shooter a police officer? Was this a case of "suicide by cop"?
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Is the shooter a police officer? Yes!Was this a case of "suicide by cop"? But no.
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Does our hero have a memory problem? is he a cleptomaniac?
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Was he high off something (like drugs given to him in the hospital) or halucinating about anything?
Was the dead man blind at all?
Was the dead man trying to take the guns away from the hospital (or wherever he was prior to getting shot)? If so, was he doing so because he thought he was helping the others in the hospital?
What kind of hospital relevant? (ie, a normal hospital, mental hospital, etc)
Did the now dead man (let us name him Gary) threaten the cop (who shall now be Seth) in any way? Was it interpreted as a threat by Seth?
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Adryghi (Adryghi)

Does our hero have a memory problem? Possibly, the relevant condition is close to this. is he a cleptomaniac? No.

Blazingphoenix (Blazingphoenix)

Was he high off something (like drugs given to him in the hospital) Yes, possibly, see below. or halucinating about anything? No.
Was the dead man blind at all? No.
Was the dead man trying to take the guns away from the hospital No.(or wherever he was prior to getting shot)? Yes. If so, was he doing so because he thought he was helping the others in the hospital? No.
What kind of hospital relevant? (ie, a normal hospital, mental hospital, etc) Normal.
Did the now dead man (let us name him Gary) threaten the cop (who shall now be Seth) in any way? no...Was it interpreted as a threat by Seth? yes.

To avoid going off on a tangent that isn't really relevant:
Let's say that Gary was in an accident that put him in the hospital. A concussion plus drugs has rendered his reasoning powers rather fuzzy. That is all that's relevant about his mental condition. =)
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Was Gary shot before he got to the hospital, or after?
Does he have amnesia then? Relevant? (I don't think it is...)
Relevant WHERE he got the guns? Where he was taking them to? Relevant what he was going to DO with said guns?
Was Gary waving the guns around as he ran crazily through the streets? (...worth a shot)
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Was Gary shot before he got to the hospital, No. or after? Yes, and possible FA happening.
Does he have amnesia then? Irr. Relevant? (I don't think it is...)
Relevant WHERE he got the guns? YES.Where he was taking them to? Not really. Relevant what he was going to DO with said guns? Yes, at least why he was taking them.
Was Gary waving the guns around as he ran crazily through the streets? (...worth a shot) No, unfortunately. =)
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was he planning on shooting someone? selling the guns? did he steal the guns from a police officer? a shop? was he going to the hospital? if not is it relevant where he was going?
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was he planning on shooting someone? Not in particular. selling the guns? No. did he steal the guns from a police officer? No. a shop? Yes. was he going to the hospital? No. if not is it relevant where he was going? Not really.
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Was this similar to a SAW movie situation? was he put through some kind of test to survive?

Was his intention to steal the guns or did he believe that they were rightfully his?

Was it a gun shop or did there just so happen to be guns in this shop? is the type of shop relevant?

Was he the owner of the shop? employee? rival shop owner?

Prior to being shot, was he planning on keeping the guns? Giving them to someone of relevance? the officer? disposing of them? hiding them?

I was not clear on this issue...are the dead man and the officer that killed him the only two relevant individuals?

Was how he got the concussion relevant? were the drugs that they gave him (in the sense that they were abnormal to what you would receive for his condition)?

Did the officer previously know the man? Did that relevant reason for why he shot him?

Did he have a previous criminal record?
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Was this similar to a SAW movie situation? No. But wouldn't that make a good puzzle? was he put through some kind of test to survive? No.

Was his intention to steal the guns or did he believe that they were rightfully his? Steal them.

Was it a gun shop or did there just so happen to be guns in this shop? is the type of shop relevant? {Irr.}

Was he the owner of the shop? employee? rival shop owner? Irr., actually.

Prior to being shot, was he planning on keeping the guns? Yes. Giving them to someone of relevance? No. the officer? disposing of them? No. hiding them? Possibly.

I was not clear on this issue...are the dead man and the officer that killed him the only two relevant individuals? YES.

Was how he got the concussion relevant? No.were the drugs that they gave him (in the sense that they were abnormal to what you would receive for his condition)? No, only that they made his reasoning somewhat unsound.

Did the officer previously know the man? No.Did that relevant reason for why he shot him? So no.

Did he have a previous criminal record? Irr.
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Did he carry the guns at the moment of the accident? Or did he obtain them after he had the concussion?

Did he wear the hospital gown when he stole the guns? Was he aware that he wore a hospital gown?
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Did he carry the guns at the moment of the accident? No. Or did he obtain them after he had the concussion? Yes.

Did he wear the hospital gown when he stole the guns? Yes. Was he aware that he wore a hospital gown? Yes.
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Was he choosing to wear the hospital gown intentionally because he thought it would be smart when stealing the guns? Or was this the only outfit that was available for him when he stole the guns? Did the fact that he was clad in a hospital gown spur his decision to steal the guns?
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did he steal the guns and then he forgot why he had stolen them?
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Was he choosing to wear the hospital gown intentionally because he thought it would be smart when stealing the guns? No. Or was this the only outfit that was available for him when he stole the guns? Yesish...it was just what he was wearing at the time. Did the fact that he was clad in a hospital gown spur his decision to steal the guns? No.

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did he steal the guns and then he forgot why he had stolen them? No.
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So, to recap...

1. Gary had an accident and was taken to the hospital.
2. He got out of the hospital wearing a hospital gown.
3. He went to a gun shop and stole some guns.
4. Seth confronted him, and he did something to make Seth think he was about to shoot, so Seth shot him.

Are these correct? Now, more details...

When he got out of the hospital, had he been discharged in the normal way? Did he ask to be let out? Or did he escape? Relevant?

Was it relevant what his motive for stealing the guns was?

Is it relevant where Seth confronted Gary? In the gun shop? Outside? At Gary's house? Was there a vehicle pursuit?

Did Gary say something to Seth? Did he draw any of the guns? Did he point the gun at someone? At Seth? himself? someone else?
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So, to recap...

1. Gary had an accident and was taken to the hospital. Yes.
2. He got out of the hospital wearing a hospital gown. Yes.
3. He went to a gun shop and stole some guns. Yes.
4. Seth confronted him, and he did something to make Seth think he was about to shoot, so Seth shot him. Yesish.

Are these correct? Now, more details...

When he got out of the hospital, had he been discharged in the normal way? No. Did he ask to be let out? No. Or did he escape? Noish. Relevant? Yes, good questions.

Was it relevant what his motive for stealing the guns was? Yes, that's mainly what's left to figure out.

Is it relevant where Seth confronted Gary? Not very. In the gun shop? Outside? This. At Gary's house? Was there a vehicle pursuit? No.

Did Gary say something to Seth? Not necessarily. Did he draw any of the guns? Did he point the gun at someone? At Seth? himself? someone else? No to rest.
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Since he didn't escape...

was he specifically told he could leave? was he told he had to leave? was the person who told him part of the hospital staff? a doctor? someone on the outside? Was he told he could leave/had to leave because he had been fully treated? because the doctors couldn't treat him for some reason? because he couldn't afford to pay for his care? because there was an emergency in the hospital? like a fire? or was there something happening on the outside that he needed to get to?

Was his motive for stealing the guns...

...money? To get money to pay for his care? Was he planning to use the guns to rob someone? Or sell the guns themselves?

...other material possessions? Was he planning on carjacking someone? or steal other goods?

...revenge? Did he intend to use the guns to shoot someone? or get someone else in trouble? Did he want to plant the guns on someone?

...to help someone? Was he planning to give the guns to someone else? His friends? Family? Members of a gang?

...self-defense? Did he think someone was out to get him and so wanted the guns for self-defense? Or was someone threatening/blackmailing him into stealing the guns for them?

...to get out of trouble? Was he under suspicion for another crime and somehow thought the guns could be useful in clearing his name? or providing an alibi? or intimidating a witness?
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Ah, nice to wake up to a block of questions.
Since he didn't escape...

was he specifically told he could leave? No.was he told he had to leave? No. was the person who told him part of the hospital staff? a doctor? someone on the outside? Was he told he could leave/had to leave because he had been fully treated? because the doctors couldn't treat him for some reason? because he couldn't afford to pay for his care? because there was an emergency in the hospital? like a fire? or was there something happening on the outside that he needed to get to? FA for the rest.

Was his motive for stealing the guns...

...money? No. To get money to pay for his care? No. Was he planning to use the guns to rob someone? No. Or sell the guns themselves? No.

...other material possessions? Was he planning on carjacking someone? or steal other goods? No to all.

...revenge? Did he intend to use the guns to shoot someone? or get someone else in trouble? Did he want to plant the guns on someone? No.

...to help someone? Sort of. Was he planning to give the guns to someone else? His friends? Family? Members of a gang? No to rest.

...self-defense? Yes. Did he think someone was out to get him and so wanted the guns for self-defense? Yope. Or was someone threatening/blackmailing him into stealing the guns for them? No.

...to get out of trouble? Was he under suspicion for another crime and somehow thought the guns could be useful in clearing his name? or providing an alibi? or intimidating a witness? No to all.

Good questions, self-defense is definitely the closest.
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Did he just walk out on his own accord?
Relevant who he wanted to defend himself against?
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Did he just walk out on his own accord? Yes. =)
Relevant who he wanted to defend himself against? Yes.
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The reason why he left the hospital...

...he thought he wasn't safe in the hospital? did he think the doctors were out to get him?
...something happened to the hospital? like it burned down? or was about to collapse?
...something happened on the outside? that he wanted to get to?
...he just wasn't thinking clearly?

The "yope" to thinking someone was out to get him...

...did he think someone would try to physically harm him? Or harm him in another way, like stealing money? Was he worried about a specific person? Or group of people? Or just a general fear of crime?
...was the person he wanted to defend himself against an acquaintance? coworker? doctor? friend? gang member? relative? lover? mistress? police?
...was he planning on carrying the gun for self-defense himself? or gicing it to someone else who would be his bodyguard?
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The reason why he left the hospital...

...he thought he wasn't safe in the hospital? Noish.did he think the doctors were out to get him? No.
...something happened to the hospital? like it burned down? or was about to collapse? No.
...something happened on the outside? Noish.that he wanted to get to?
...he just wasn't thinking clearly? Yes, but there was a more definite reason.

The "yope" to thinking someone was out to get him...

...did he think someone would try to physically harm him? Yes. Or harm him in another way, like stealing money? Possibly. Was he worried about a specific person? No. Or group of people? Yesish. Or just a general fear of crime? Mostly this.
...was the person he wanted to defend himself against an acquaintance? coworker? doctor? friend? gang member? relative? lover? mistress? police? Any of these.
...was he planning on carrying the gun for self-defense himself? Yes. or gicing it to someone else who would be his bodyguard? No.
Sorry for the vague answers, you'll get it when you get the answer.
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Had he had a fear of crime before the accident? If yes, then was he getting the guns now while his mind was foggy to protect himself?
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Had he had a fear of crime before the accident? No... If yes, then was he getting the guns now while his mind was foggy to protect himself? But yes to the rest of this.
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Hi.

Was he defending himself against a nemesis of some sort?

If so, would this nemesis be the other cop who killed him?
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Hi. Hello, and welcome.

Was he defending himself against a nemesis of some sort? Yope.

If so, would this nemesis be the other cop who killed him? No, possible FA.
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...Now, when he left the hospital, did the doctors call the police to find him, or was Seth unaware that he was out running in the streets?
...When he stole the guns, did he threaten anyone in the store to get them? Did the clerks call the cops when he stole them, or was Seth still unaware?
...Was Seth just out for a stroll when he saw Gary running with guns and a hospital gown?

What more do we need to figure out?
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...Now, when he left the hospital, did the doctors call the police to find him, or was Seth unaware that he was out running in the streets? Seth was unaware.
...When he stole the guns, did he threaten anyone in the store to get them? No. Did the clerks call the cops when he stole them, or was Seth still unaware? Still unaware =)
...Was Seth just out for a stroll when he saw Gary running with guns and a hospital gown? Yes.

What more do we need to figure out? Why Gary was stealing a bunch of guns; what he was thinking.
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Did Gary hear something while he was at the hospital that he misunderstood (due to concussion/drugs) that led him think he needed to steal the guns? protect himself?
Something a doctor or nurse said?
Was the number of guns significant?
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Did Gary hear something while he was at the hospital that he misunderstood (due to concussion/drugs) that led him think he needed to steal the guns? protect himself?
Something a doctor or nurse said? No to all.
Was the number of guns significant? No.
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RECAP

Gary woke in a hospital after getting in a car accident. His head still fuzzy, he staggered out of the hospital, went to a gun store, and stole several guns. He didn't do this because of anything that had occured before the accident, or anything he heard in the hospital. Once he left the gun shop, a police officer, surprised by the sight of a man in a robe carrying numerous guns, shot him.

What still needs to be solved is that Gary's motives were.
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When he woke did he know he was in a hospital?
Did the fact that he was wearing a hospital gown have a bearing on his actions?
Was he heading back to the hospital with the guns? Did he plan on keeping them? Was he going to give some to other patients?
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Did he plan to return to the hospital?
12 important?
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When he woke did he know he was in a hospital? Yes.
Did the fact that he was wearing a hospital gown have a bearing on his actions? No.
Was he heading back to the hospital with the guns? Irr. Did he plan on keeping them? Yes. Was he going to give some to other patients? No.

D3sisted (D3sisted)

Did he plan to return to the hospital? Irr.
12 important? No.
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Did he see or hear something after leaving the hospital that made him fearful, and led him to steal the guns?

Was his fear legitimate, or did he misinterpret something?
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Did he see or hear something after leaving the hospital that made him fearful, and led him to steal the guns? Yesish. On the right track.

Was his fear legitimate, or did he misinterpret something? The latter.
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Was he confused about who he was? where he was?

Did he see or hear something that triggered something from his past?

Was he looking for a gun shop, or just happened to stumble upon one?

Is how he was able to steal 12 guns without threatening anyone relevant?
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Was he confused about who he was? No. where he was? Noish...

Did he see or hear something that triggered something from his past? No...ish.

Was he looking for a gun shop, or just happened to stumble upon one? Irr.

Is how he was able to steal 12 guns without threatening anyone relevant? Yes, it could help you.
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Did he know the employees of the gun shop?
Were the guns stored out in the open?
Were the guns all the same type?
Did he have any accessories (bag, holsters, etc) to help him carry the guns?
Did he steal the guns because he believed that something bad would happen if they remained at the shop?
Does this have anything to do with a concern about his "right to bear arms?"
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Did he know the employees of the gun shop? No.
Were the guns stored out in the open? Yes.
Were the guns all the same type? Irr.
Did he have any accessories (bag, holsters, etc) to help him carry the guns? Irr.
Did he steal the guns because he believed that something bad would happen if they remained at the shop? No.
Does this have anything to do with a concern about his "right to bear arms?" No.
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Was the shop closed when he stole the guns? He broke in? Relevant?
When he left the hospital, was he going somewhere in particular?
Did he encounter any other people after he left the hospital (until Seth?)
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Was the shop closed when he stole the guns? He broke in? Yes. Relevant? Somewhat.
When he left the hospital, was he going somewhere in particular? No.
Did he encounter any other people after he left the hospital (until Seth?) NO. Good question.
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Were the streets deserted? No cars or other people in sight? Or just that he didn't see anyone else because it was late at night?
When he awoke in the hospital, were there any people there?
Was he in the hospital for a long period of time (a la Rip Van Winkle?)
Had some sort of disaster occurred? Nuclear? Superflu? Alien invasion? Maybe there was a city-wide curfew for some reason?
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Were the streets deserted? Yes. No cars or other people in sight? Yes. Or just that he didn't see anyone else because it was late at night? Yes.
When he awoke in the hospital, were there any people there? No.
Was he in the hospital for a long period of time (a la Rip Van Winkle?) No.
Had some sort of disaster occurred? No, but...Nuclear? Superflu? Alien invasion? Think along these lines...Maybe there was a city-wide curfew for some reason?
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Did he see the deserted streets and think a disaster had occurred? And he thought that order would soon break down and he would need to get guns to defend himself? But really the only reason the streets were deserted was that it was late at night?
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did Gary mistakenly think Seth was out to get him?
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I apologize profusely on behalf of my old computer, which decided to stop working and leave me internetless for a month or so. I'm back.

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Did he see the deserted streets and think a disaster had occurred? Yes. And he thought that order would soon break down and he would need to get guns to defend himself? Yesish. Good q's. But really the only reason the streets were deserted was that it was late at night? No, but keep thinking along these lines.

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did Gary mistakenly think Seth was out to get him? Irr.
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Was a film being made?
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Was it only after seeing the streets deserted that he decided he needed a weapon?

Was the weapon for protection?

Could he have chosen to get knives instead of guns, or any other weapon, for that matter?

Did anyone see him leaving the hospital? If so, did they, or if not, would they, have tried to stop him?

Does it matter who his last conversation was was with and/or what was said?
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Was a film being made? No.

Bigpurple (Bigpurple)

Was it only after seeing the streets deserted that he decided he needed a weapon? Yesish.

Was the weapon for protection? Yes.

Could he have chosen to get knives instead of guns, or any other weapon, for that matter? Yes, but guns would probably be most useful.

Did anyone see him leaving the hospital? No.If so, did they, or if not, would they, have tried to stop him? Probably.

Does it matter who his last conversation was was with and/or what was said? No.
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Was everyone inside or gone because a dangerous criminal was on the loose? (and Seth mistook Gary for said criminal?)

Hmmm, people inside for the night, and something along the lines of an alien invasion... Vampires? (I doubt it)
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Was everyone inside or gone because a dangerous criminal was on the loose? (and Seth mistook Gary for said criminal?) Nope.

Hmmm, people inside for the night, It's morning. and something along the lines of an alien invasion... Vampires? (I doubt it) Nope.
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quote:

Or just that he didn't see anyone else because it was late at night? Yes.





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Hmmm, people inside for the night, It's morning.




Could you please clarify?

So it wasn't a disaster... had war just been declared? a warning or alarm of something about to occur?

The reason that the hospital and streets were deserted ---> did it cause them to leave due to fear? excitement? curiosity?
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Could you please clarify? Sorry for the confusion. I had forgotten to let you know earlier that it was in the morning, and was previously allowing people to say late at night because it made little difference. Let's say early morning now, though.

So it wasn't a disaster... had war just been declared? No. a warning or alarm of something about to occur? No.

The reason that the hospital and streets were deserted ---> did it cause them to leave due to fear? excitement? curiosity? No.
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Is it relevant what period in history this situation occurred? maybe even that it could only happen in the future? Would it only work in certain parts of the world?

Wonder why no one asked earlier, but just ruling it out - title relevant? if so, is the song my Lynyrd Skynyrd relevant? tangentially? any point exploring this aspect?

What puzzles me is why he stole so many guns... is this significant? Would it have mattered if he had stolen 1 instead of 12?

The reason for no one being around --> just a coincidence? was the area actually deserted or did he just not happen to encounter anyone, or see anyone? maybe his vision was impaired? everyone was wearing a particular colour and he was colour blinded by the accident? (LoL)

Was the reason paranormal? sci-fi-isque?
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Is it relevant what period in history this situation occurred? Yesish. maybe even that it could only happen in the future? No. Would it only work in certain parts of the world? Eh, more likely to happen in some parts.

Wonder why no one asked earlier, but just ruling it out - title relevant? if so, is the song my Lynyrd Skynyrd relevant? tangentially? any point exploring this aspect? Not in the least. But always a good question. =)

What puzzles me is why he stole so many guns... is this significant? Not really. Would it have mattered if he had stolen 1 instead of 12? No.

The reason for no one being around --> just a coincidence? Yope. was the area actually deserted or did he just not happen to encounter anyone, or see anyone? Any of the above work. maybe his vision was impaired? everyone was wearing a particular colour and he was colour blinded by the accident? (LoL) Lol no.

Was the reason paranormal? sci-fi-isque? Yesish but be very careful here.
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Did the officer shoot to kill? shoot to disable/disarm (not quite sure what it's called)? but killed him by accident? made worse Gary's physical condition which was previously damaged?
Any of this relevant?

Did Gary have a relevant physical condition?

Was Gary believed to still be alive when he was last seen prior to his leaving the hospital?

When Gary last woke up in the hospital was anyone else around? (or) was the hospital empty? relevant?

Did he believe something paranormal/sci-fi-isque was occuring (but in reality it was not)?

Involves:
Ghosts?
Magic?
Aliens?
Space?
Technology?
Time-travel?
Special abilities?
The future?
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Did the officer shoot to kill? This. shoot to disable/disarm (not quite sure what it's called)? but killed him by accident? made worse Gary's physical condition which was previously damaged?
Any of this relevant? Not especially relevant.

Did Gary have a relevant physical condition? Nothing that hasn't already been covered.

Was Gary believed to still be alive when he was last seen prior to his leaving the hospital? Yes.

When Gary last woke up in the hospital was anyone else around? (or) was the hospital empty? Empty. relevant? Yes.

Did he believe something paranormal/sci-fi-isque was occuring (but in reality it was not)? YES!

Involves:
Ghosts?
Magic?
Aliens?
Space?
Technology?
Time-travel?
Special abilities?
The future? None of this, you're ninety-nine percent there. Care to guess what he thought was going on?
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If none of those things were involved not sure what it leaves... monster(s)?
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..zombies?!
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Iff zombies; he wakes up, believes some zombie virus idea he has as an explanation for people not being there in the hospital, i.e. most of them have run away the rest of them are zombies, so seeks protection resident evil style... and policeman finds him with all his guns, and shoots him believing him to be a threat?
Not sure why the hospital was really empty apart from him... or why he didn't encounter anyone until the policeman though...
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****************SPOILER!
Yes! You've cracked two of my puzzles in one day! And by means of explanation:

Man from a large city...let's say New York, is driving down the road when he gets into a car accident. He is taken to a hospital in a very small town and wakes the next morning, still a little woozy from drugs/concussion.

Now, in this small town it's perfectly normal for the hospital to have minimal staff, and the streets to be deserted, this early in the morning. But Our Hero is used to the city that never sleeps, and after wandering around for a bit in a haze, decides that something must have happened to everyone. Having watched a little too much Dawn of the Dead/ Resident Evil/ 28 Days Later/ I Am Legend, his immediate thought is zombies.

Without delay, he breaks into a sports/hunting shop and emerges with enough weaponry to defend himself. A young cop responding to the alarm, and unused to crime of any kind, promptly shoots him.

Good job!

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