| Author | Message | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 357 Registered: 12-2007 |
Now THAT's a good job! | ||
| Travis (Travis)
New member Username: Travis Post Number: 79 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is "good job" a description of an occupation, or a compliment on work done? If the former, is the occupation relevant? People relevant? If so, 1? 2? 3? 4? 5-10? 11-100? more? And lastly, is the Borg relevant, or did it just make a nice title? (: | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 358 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is "good job" a description of an occupation, or a compliment on work done? The latter. If the former, is the occupation relevant? N/A People relevant? Slightly. If so, 1? This one. 2? 3? 4? 5-10? 11-100? more? And lastly, is the Borg relevant, Of course not (: or did it just make a nice title? (: The title is cryptically relevant, but I think you will not be able to draw much benefit from it at this phase. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1189 Registered: 11-2003 |
Is there anything relevant about the person or persons doing this job that was well done? Was it a once off? or is it done regularly? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 365 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is there anything relevant about the person or persons doing this job that was well done? FA. Was it a once off? Yes. or is it done regularly? No. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 434 Registered: 6-2003 |
Was it a good job because this person performed better than expected? because he/she took more benefit from the work than expected? because you benefitted from it? were you this person? is it a famous person? a current sports event relevant? or is "good job" ironically? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 367 Registered: 12-2007 |
Was it a good job because this person performed better than expected? FA. Explore. because he/she took more benefit from the work than expected? Yes-ish. because you benefitted from it? were you this person? is it a famous person? a current sports event relevant? No to rest. or is "good job" ironically? Agh. Tough one. Yope. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 151 Registered: 5-2008 |
There was a job to be done? It was done? by one person? more than one person? 'Afterwards' the job no longer required further work? Is "good job" intended with double meaning? Was a meaning of "good job" ironic? sarcastic? Was "good job" actually spoken? thought? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 423 Registered: 12-2007 |
There was a job to be done? Yes-ish. It was done? Yes. by one person? No. more than one person? Yope. 'Afterwards' the job no longer required further work? It didn't. Is "good job" intended with double meaning? No. Was a meaning of "good job" ironic? sarcastic? No to both. I really think it was a good job, but... Was "good job" actually spoken? thought? Thought. It is my comment about the event. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 159 Registered: 5-2008 |
Where you present at the completion of the event? When the event was complete did you know immediately? There is a single location at which this job was performed? Have you ever attended that location personally? Was the work a solution to a problem that didn't exactly need fixing but sooner or later would or could be improved? Any living non-human thing(s) involved? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 425 Registered: 12-2007 |
Where you present at the completion of the event? No. When the event was complete did you know immediately? Irrelevant. There is a single location at which this job was performed? Yope. Have you ever attended that location personally? No. Was the work a solution to a problem that didn't exactly need fixing but sooner or later would or could be improved? Yope, but it's on the right track. Any living non-human thing(s) involved? No. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1302 Registered: 9-2003 |
any machine involved? robot? computer? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 436 Registered: 12-2007 |
any machine involved? Yes. robot? computer? This one. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1309 Registered: 9-2003 |
was a specific piece of software involved? something well known? or something specific for the situation? any number calculation involved? was it maybe some sort of war game situ? or just someone having the computer run through different situations? possibilities? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 438 Registered: 12-2007 |
was a specific piece of software involved? Yes. something well known? Yes... or something specific for the situation? ...but this too. any number calculation involved? No. was it maybe some sort of war game situ? No. or just someone having the computer run through different situations? possibilities? No to both. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2019 Registered: 8-2006 |
You said the Borg wasn't relevant, but is Star Trek? ;) Seriously now... A computer like we're using now? Does this have anything to do with the softwares designers? If so, Microsoft? Is the software used for making spreadsheets, or something like that? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 442 Registered: 12-2007 |
You said the Borg wasn't relevant, but is Star Trek? ;) No (: Seriously now... A computer like we're using now? Yes. Does this have anything to do with the softwares designers? Yes. If so, Microsoft? Spot on. That's where the Borg come in. Is the software used for making spreadsheets, or something like that? No. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2023 Registered: 8-2006 |
What do microsoft and the Borg have in common? OK, so is the software an application? A document sorta thingy? Just software that makes your computer faster? Is the exact type of software even relevant?? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 444 Registered: 12-2007 |
What do microsoft and the Borg have in common? You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. OK, so is the software an application? No. A document sorta thingy? No. Just software that makes your computer faster? I would say the opposite, but it's my opinion. Is the exact type of software even relevant?? Yes. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1314 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it a microsoft operating system? internet explorer? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 447 Registered: 12-2007 |
is it a microsoft operating system? Yep. internet explorer? Thus, no. | ||
| Travis (Travis)
New member Username: Travis Post Number: 109 Registered: 12-2007 |
Windows 1.0? 2.0? /286? 3.0? 3.1x? 95? 98? ME? NT 3.1? NT 3.5? NT 3.51? NT 4? 2000? XP? Vista? Vienna? /i{I didn't realize there were so many versions of Windows...} | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2026 Registered: 8-2006 |
I still think Macs are way better... You don't have to take the whole thing apart just to upgrade it | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 451 Registered: 12-2007 |
Travis: Windows 1.0? 2.0? /286? 3.0? 3.1x? 95? 98? ME? NT 3.1? NT 3.5? NT 3.51? NT 4? 2000? XP? Vista? Vienna? I think any version from Windows 98 onwards would fit the bill. I didn't realize there were so many versions of Windows... ...and I think you have left out the whole "Windows Server" family... | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2033 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was it said sarcastically? Are you saying that all the Windows 98 onward are "good jobs"? But only compared with the previous operating systems? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 457 Registered: 12-2007 |
Was it said sarcastically? No, but... Are you saying that all the Windows 98 onward are "good jobs"? No. But only compared with the previous operating systems? No. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2035 Registered: 8-2006 |
Are any competitors of Microsoft relevant? Apple? Were you criticizing or complimenting the Windows 98+ system? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 458 Registered: 12-2007 |
Are any competitors of Microsoft relevant? Yes. Apple? Not this. Were you criticizing or complimenting the Windows 98+ system? Yope. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2041 Registered: 8-2006 |
What other companies make software?? *Googles* IBM Software? Oracle Corporation? SAP AG? Ca, Inc? Google?? Do any of these produce operating systems? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 463 Registered: 12-2007 |
What other companies make software?? *Googles* IBM Software? Oracle Corporation? SAP AG? Ca, Inc? Google?? Do any of these produce operating systems? FA. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2044 Registered: 8-2006 |
Yay! FA! So its competitors don't make software? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 466 Registered: 12-2007 |
Yay! FA! So its competitors don't make software? Incorrect. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2046 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hmmm... So what's the FA? That its competitors make software? That they produce operating systems? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 469 Registered: 12-2007 |
Hmmm... So what's the FA? That's for me to know, and for you to find out. That its competitors make software? No, they do. That they produce operating systems? No, they do. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2051 Registered: 8-2006 |
So I made a false assumption in my post, but... the only assumption I made was that the competitors made software. Unless you're talking about my using Google to find that out (: | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 471 Registered: 12-2007 |
So I made a false assumption in my post, but... the only assumption I made was that the competitors made software. Unless you're talking about my using Google to find that out (: No, Google is allowed. You made another FA. Check your phrasing carefully (: | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2054 Registered: 8-2006 |
D'oh! Is it not a company?? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 473 Registered: 12-2007 |
D'oh! Is it not a company?? Exactly. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2056 Registered: 8-2006 |
*Kicks shin because wasted around 10 posts with that one word* So, a NON-company that makes software and operating systems... I've got no idea. Bit of help someone? | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 502 Registered: 8-2005 |
Is it anti-virus software? | ||
| Travis (Travis)
New member Username: Travis Post Number: 115 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is it some kind of open-source organization? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 478 Registered: 12-2007 |
Martinfg: Is it anti-virus software? No. Travis: Is it some kind of open-source organization? Yes. | ||
| Travis (Travis)
New member Username: Travis Post Number: 116 Registered: 12-2007 |
The only thing I can think of is GNU... is that it? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 480 Registered: 12-2007 |
The only thing I can think of is GNU... is that it? Yes. In this particular case, it was a Linux distribution. | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 498 Registered: 12-2007 |
********* RECAP ********* Something was done on a computer, which can be though of as a good job. Unexpectedly good, in some's view. A recent version of Microsoft Windows and Linux are relevant. Let me add that solution of the puzzle requires a tiny bit of computer knowledge. It helps if you have used Windows in the past 10 years or so (but who hasn't...) and it helps if you know what Linux is (another operating system). | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2067 Registered: 8-2006 |
I thought I posted.... Whoops... Is there a feature in Linux/Windows 98 that is not in the other? Are you stating that it's a good job as a comparative? Is THAT Linux? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 501 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is there a feature in Linux/Windows 98 that is not in the other? Probably, but that's not the point, Are you stating that it's a good job as a comparative? No. Is THAT Linux? Yope. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2083 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is the something a type of programming/Program? Can both Windows and Linux use this program(ming), but Linux uses it better? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 502 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is the something a type of programming/Program? Yes-ish. Can both Windows and Linux use this program(ming), but Linux uses it better? Only Windows can use it. | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 665 Registered: 10-2004 |
Anything to do with the similarities in appearance of Ubuntu and Vista? If Debian releases of Linux are relevent, is the predictable Random-number generator fiasco a few months ago also relevent? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 503 Registered: 12-2007 |
Anything to do with the similarities in appearance of Ubuntu and Vista? No. If Debian releases of Linux are relevent, is the predictable Random-number generator fiasco a few months ago also relevent? No. You don't need any detailed information about Linux. There is only one point about it that has to be uncovered, but you will get there (eventually). | ||
| Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 203 Registered: 1-2007 |
Modular kernel relevant? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 508 Registered: 12-2007 |
Modular kernel relevant? Yeow. No, no, it's much simpler than that. I think I have scared people off by saying that you need computer knowledge, so here's what you need to know. HINT: Windows installs updates automatically every now and then. | ||
| Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 207 Registered: 1-2007 |
Tee hee... i thought i had it :D Are Windows service packs relevant? apt-style package managers? The fact that you can usually upgrade to a new version of a linux distro "on the fly" by downloading the upgraded packages? The whole issue of windows update phoning back license information and possibly usage reports? Is Autopatcher relevant? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 509 Registered: 12-2007 |
Are Windows service packs relevant? apt-style package managers? The fact that you can usually upgrade to a new version of a linux distro "on the fly" by downloading the upgraded packages? The whole issue of windows update phoning back license information and possibly usage reports? Is Autopatcher relevant? No to all. | ||
| Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 212 Registered: 1-2007 |
The internet connection is relevant/needed? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 510 Registered: 12-2007 |
The internet connection is relevant/needed? Yes, inasmuch as it is necessary to download Windows updates. | ||
| Adryghi (Adryghi)
New member Username: Adryghi Post Number: 129 Registered: 1-2008 |
I don't know that much about computers, but you said we didn't need to, so: Does the "good job" refer to the Windows updater? Is the fact that Linux is safer/built better than Windows relevant? Is it relevant that Windows is more user friendly? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 514 Registered: 12-2007 |
I don't know that much about computers, but you said we didn't need to, so: Does the "good job" refer to the Windows updater? Yes. Is the fact that Linux is safer/built better than Windows relevant? Yes. Is it relevant that Windows is more user friendly? No. | ||
| Vene (Vene)
New member Username: Vene Post Number: 46 Registered: 9-2008 |
AFAIK there was no windows update in win 98, but somewhere above you said it applies to windows 98 inclusively. Or did you mean any version NEWER than 98? Is the good job automatically downloading drivers from the internet? (does that even work?) Are security updates relevant? | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 482 Registered: 5-2008 |
Did the updater install something you thought you would use? may use? Was it something that would run automatically or need to be told to run? Did it somehow improve an existing function? add a new one? Did it make it possible easier to install/run built for Linux applications? Did it give Windows Linux-like functionality/ability in one or more ways? or make Windows better than Linux in respect to a specific functionality/ability? Security relevant? Ease-of-use relevant? Entertainment relevant? Work relevant? Performance relevant? Customisability relevant? Would it help to know all or a few of the ways in which Linux and Windows differ? | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 483 Registered: 5-2008 |
possible/easier* | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 515 Registered: 12-2007 |
Vene: AFAIK there was no windows update in win 98, but somewhere above you said it applies to windows 98 inclusively. Or did you mean any version NEWER than 98? According to Wikipedia, the first version of Windows Update actually ran on Win95! Anyway, the exact version of Windows is irrelevant. Is the good job automatically downloading drivers from the internet? No. (does that even work? Who knows (:) Are security updates relevant? No-ish. Liquizt: Did the updater install something you thought you would use? may use? Irrelevant. Was it something that would run automatically or need to be told to run? Yes-ish to automatically, no to the other. Did it somehow improve an existing function? No. add a new one? No-ish. Did it make it possible/easier to install/run built for Linux applications? Not sure what you mean, could you please rephrase? Did it give Windows Linux-like functionality/ability in one or more ways? No-ish. or make Windows better than Linux in respect to a specific functionality/ability? No. Security relevant? Ease-of-use relevant? Entertainment relevant? Work relevant? Performance relevant? Customisability relevant? All (except ease of use) are relevant only inasmuch as "Linux is safer/built better than Windows", to recycle Adryghi's words. Would it help to know all or a few of the ways in which Linux and Windows differ? No. | ||
| Vene (Vene)
New member Username: Vene Post Number: 47 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is it along the lines "windows finally has (can get) a thingamajig that linux had for a while" ? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 516 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is it along the lines "windows finally has (can get) a thingamajig that linux had for a while" ? No. | ||
| Adryghi (Adryghi)
New member Username: Adryghi Post Number: 130 Registered: 1-2008 |
I don't know if I am right, but I think that, because Linux is built better, it doesn't need an updater like the one Windows has. If that is correct, is it relevant to the puzzle? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 517 Registered: 12-2007 |
I don't know if I am right, but I think that, because Linux is built better, it doesn't need an updater like the one Windows has. It actually does anyway. If that is correct, is it relevant to the puzzle? So no. | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 518 Registered: 12-2007 |
HINT: What happens when you Windows updates your computer? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 519 Registered: 12-2007 |
D'oh... one "you" too much. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 499 Registered: 5-2008 |
It needs to restart to apply changes? X) | ||
| Vene (Vene)
New member Username: Vene Post Number: 63 Registered: 9-2008 |
it creates a system restore point? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 522 Registered: 12-2007 |
Liquizt: It needs to restart to apply changes? X) Indeed. That's it. Vene: it creates a system restore point? It does that too, but that's irrelevant. | ||
| Vene (Vene)
New member Username: Vene Post Number: 69 Registered: 9-2008 |
So it's about not needing to restart, like linux, which only needs to restart for a kernel update? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 525 Registered: 12-2007 |
So it's about not needing to restart, like linux, which only needs to restart for a kernel update? No. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 527 Registered: 5-2008 |
Did the individual whose computer it was want it to restart? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 526 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did the individual whose computer it was want it to restart? NO. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 531 Registered: 5-2008 |
would anyone in or outside this situation want the computer to restart for any other reason than loading the update? Did the restart stop or start any relevant process? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 527 Registered: 12-2007 |
would anyone in or outside this situation want the computer to restart for any other reason than loading the update? In the same situation, most people wouldn't want their computer to restart to load the update. Did the restart stop or start any relevant process? No to stop, yope to start. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 544 Registered: 5-2008 |
There was no relevant process(es) running before the restart (other than the updater)? or there was but it was paused? but after the computer loaded up again? a process was yopely started? yope because: the process wasn't started as such but continued/resumed? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 528 Registered: 12-2007 |
There was no relevant process(es) running before the restart (other than the updater)? There was no other relevant process. or there was but it was paused? So no. but after the computer loaded up again? a process was yopely started? Yes, but I sense a small FA here. yope because: the process wasn't started as such but continued/resumed? No. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 410 Registered: 5-2003 |
Good job = Well done? Did restarting turn out to be good? Bad? Would Linux, if used instead, have done something good? Bad? Viruses or other malicious programs involved? Or was something interrupted? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 530 Registered: 12-2007 |
Good job = Well done? Yope. Did restarting turn out to be good? Bad? Yope to both. Would Linux, if used instead, have done something good? This, irrelevant. Bad? Viruses or other malicious programs involved? No. Or was something interrupted? No. HINT: Figure out why Linux is relevant to this puzzle. | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2008 |
Is the capitalization of "THAT's" relevant? If so, does this imply an acronym of some type? Does this apply to all versions of linux? In not, to which does it apply? Does this deal with a specific feature of windows update? Linux update? One update in particular? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 535 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is the capitalization of "THAT's" relevant? No. If so, does this imply an acronym of some type? No. Does this apply to all versions of linux? No, but might mislead. In not, to which does it apply? This is not a yes-no question :-) Does this deal with a specific feature of windows update? Yes, and it has already been established that it is the automatic reboot after update. Linux update? No. One update in particular? No. | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 7 Registered: 10-2008 |
Sorry, this is my first day on the forum =) does it refer specifically to ubuntu? Red Hat? GNU? Does this deal with Windows Live OneCare? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 538 Registered: 12-2007 |
Sorry, this is my first day on the forum =) No worries. does it refer specifically to ubuntu? Red Hat? GNU? No. Does this deal with Windows Live OneCare? Don't even know what that is, thus no :-) | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2008 |
Are you saying Windows/Microsoft did a good job? That Linux did a good job? Is the good job an update for one of the OS? A new release? A product that is purchasable/attainable in material form? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 539 Registered: 12-2007 |
Sorry for the long delay. Are you saying Windows/Microsoft did a good job? Yes, Windows did. That Linux did a good job? So no. Is the good job an update for one of the OS? No-ish. A new release? No. A product that is purchasable/attainable in material form? Yes. | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 142 Registered: 10-2008 |
Welcome back =) Lets see then...is the product related to optimizing performance? security? ease-of-use? does it alter the GUI? Is it purchasable at BestBuy? Tiger Direct? Through Microsoft only? Is it actual hardware? software? I/O device? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 540 Registered: 12-2007 |
Welcome back =) Lets see then...is the product related to optimizing performance? security? ease-of-use? does it alter the GUI? It alters all of these. Is it purchasable at BestBuy? Tiger Direct? Through Microsoft only? No to all, and a hint of a FA. Is it actual hardware? software? This. I/O device? It's easier than you think. | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 152 Registered: 10-2008 |
So, to clarify, it is a piece of software, put out by Microsoft, that you may purchase in material form, but that you cannot buy from the major distributors of Microsoft products? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 820 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is requiring a reboot after an update relevant? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 821 Registered: 12-2004 |
Postponing a reboot? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 822 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is there any O/S other than Linux that this would be true about? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 823 Registered: 12-2004 |
Open source relevant? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 541 Registered: 12-2007 |
Usmcfink: So, to clarify, it is a piece of software, Yes put out by Microsoft, No that you may purchase in material form, Yes but that you cannot buy from the major distributors of Microsoft products? Correct. Doctapeppa: Is requiring a reboot after an update relevant? Very. Postponing a reboot? No. Is there any O/S other than Linux that this would be true about? Yes, irrelevant. Open source relevant? Not really. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 824 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did (whatever Microsoft did) have any effect on reduction of the annoyance caused by having to restart the computer after updates are installed? Is there some specific quality of Linux that is the cause for its involvement in this puzzle, or was it arbitrarily chosen out of a group of operating systems that this would be true about? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 825 Registered: 12-2004 |
Just to clarify... So far we have 1) Something was done on a computer. 2)What was done in (1) can be thought of as a good job. 3) What was done in (1) is unexpectedly good, in some's view. 4)Any version of Microsoft Windows since 95 is relevant. 5) Windows automatically rebooting after an automatic update is relevant. 6) Linux is relevant. 7) This puzzle would also be true if a different operating system than Linux were used in its stead, but this is irrelevant. 8) People generally don't like having to close all their applications and wait for their computer to restart whenever it feels like it. | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 542 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did (whatever Microsoft did) have any effect on reduction of the annoyance caused by having to restart the computer after updates are installed? Yes. Is there some specific quality of Linux that is the cause for its involvement in this puzzle, or was it arbitrarily chosen out of a group of operating systems that this would be true about? More than one operating system would fit the bill. Just to clarify... So far we have 1) Something was done on a computer. 2)What was done in (1) can be thought of as a good job. 3) What was done in (1) is unexpectedly good, in some's view. 4)Any version of Microsoft Windows since 95 is relevant. 5) Windows automatically rebooting after an automatic update is relevant. 6) Linux is relevant. 7) This puzzle would also be true if a different operating system than Linux were used in its stead, but this is irrelevant. All correct up to here. 8) People generally don't like having to close all their applications and wait for their computer to restart whenever it feels like it. This is indubitably true but, alas, hardly relevant to this puzzle. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 856 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did Microsoft make restarting after updates quicker? Less often? At a different time? Did Microsoft provide a Gameboy to play while waiting for restart? I don't even have any idea which way the right forest is? Yes? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 543 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did Microsoft make restarting after updates quicker? Less often? At a different time? Irrelevant. Did Microsoft provide a Gameboy to play while waiting for restart? I wish. I don't even have any idea which way the right forest is? Probably. Yes? Maybe. HINT: How did Linux come into the story? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 869 Registered: 12-2004 |
I assume because you arbitrarily chose it out of a group of non-Windows OS's. You never indicated otherwise in your answer to my question. | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 544 Registered: 12-2007 |
I assume because you arbitrarily chose it out of a group of non-Windows OS's. You never indicated otherwise in your answer to my question. Other OSs would work as well in Linux's stead, but it was Linux that was involved in this particular puzzle... | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 892 Registered: 12-2004 |
So was there a reason for picking Linux for this puzzle? Does the name sound better? Are you personally more familiar with it? Did you flip a coin? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 545 Registered: 12-2007 |
So was there a reason for picking Linux for this puzzle? It is a true story involving Linux. Does the name sound better? Are you personally more familiar with it? Did you flip a coin? Irrel to rest. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 895 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did Windows kill Linux? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 546 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did Windows kill Linux? No, but explore. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 899 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did Microsoft do anything that would specifically affect a different operating system? Vice versa? Vice versa vice versa? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 547 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did Microsoft do anything that would specifically affect a different operating system? No. Vice versa? Yope, explore. Vice versa vice versa? Er... no?! | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 906 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did the Linux non-company producer develop a plague of locusts that would cause computers to turn off to restart and never turn back on? And Microsoft pwn'd them? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 939 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is this accurate?  | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 548 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did the Linux non-company producer develop a plague of locusts that would cause computers to turn off to restart and never turn back on? And Microsoft pwn'd them? It hasn't got anything to do with companies or whoever produces the OS. Only the involved machine is relevant. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 985 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is the involved machine... A computer? In the Northern Hemisphere? Bigger than a breadbox? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 549 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is the involved machine... A computer? Yes. In the Northern Hemisphere? Irrelevant. Bigger than a breadbox? Irrelevant. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 996 Registered: 12-2004 |
Was this does on a single computer? Did what was done affect computers across the world? Did what was done give some kind of an advantage to Windows over Linux? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 550 Registered: 12-2007 |
Was this does on a single computer? Yes. Did what was done affect computers across the world? No, just that computer. Did what was done give some kind of an advantage to Windows over Linux? No. Want a recap? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1011 Registered: 12-2004 |
That would probably be helpful. | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 551 Registered: 12-2007 |
I think you have all the pieces... you just have to put them together. ***** RECAP ***** A computer running Windows started an automatic security update, the result of which can be thought of as an unexpectedly good job. It has been established that: * the automatic reboot after the installation of the updates is relevant; * a certain piece of non-Windows, non Micro$oft software is connected to the "good job", AND * Linux is relevant. Question: what does the "good job" consist in? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1014 Registered: 12-2004 |
Does anybody care about this computer? Or was this just some computer in some school somewhere that isn't maintained properly anyway? Did anybody notice that it happened? Did this happen to your computer? Did this "good job" result in stock prices increasing? Were the stockholders happy? Is AVG relevant? What about AOL Instant Messenger? What about Linux? [Oh wait...] Penguins relevant? Is any particular Microsoft employee responsible for the "good job"? Or was it a collaborative effort of thousands? Was the "good job" even intentional? Or did a computer script do the job? Could this have occurred in Ancient Rome? What about in Beethoven's Germany? Is the Internet relevant? (other than as the origin of the update) | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 552 Registered: 12-2007 |
Does anybody care about this computer? Yes. Or was this just some computer in some school somewhere that isn't maintained properly anyway? No. Did anybody notice that it happened? Yes. Did this happen to your computer? No. Did this "good job" result in stock prices increasing? Were the stockholders happy? Is AVG relevant? What about AOL Instant Messenger? No to all of these. What about Linux? Linux is relevant, yes. [Oh wait...] Penguins relevant? No. Is any particular Microsoft employee responsible for the "good job"? No. Or was it a collaborative effort of thousands? Neither. Was the "good job" even intentional? It wasn't. Good Q. Or did a computer script do the job? Yes-ish, very much OTRT! Could this have occurred in Ancient Rome? No. What about in Beethoven's Germany? No. Is the Internet relevant? (other than as the origin of the update) No. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1027 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did some computer program do something that actually made sense? As opposed to having a tragic flaw? (I know many people who have difficulties with computers being uncooperative) So this computer had some version of Microsoft Windows? As its OS? And the automatic updater started an update? And then something unexpectedly good happened? Did the updater interact with a different program? Would this have happened if the computer had a different OS (assuming it still had the same automatic update style, if that makes any sense). Was whatever the other relevant piece of computer software installed on the computer at the time? Running? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 553 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did some computer program do something that actually made sense? As opposed to having a tragic flaw? (I know many people who have difficulties with computers being uncooperative) No. So this computer had some version of Microsoft Windows? Yes. As its OS? Yes. And the automatic updater started an update? Yes. And then something unexpectedly good happened? Yes, but remember that it is "good" in a funny and unexpected way. Did the updater interact with a different program? YOPE. Would this have happened if the computer had a different OS (assuming it still had the same automatic update style, if that makes any sense). Yes, it would have happened in the same way, but the puzzle statement would have probably been different. Was whatever the other relevant piece of computer software installed on the computer at the time? No. Running? No. And the other relevant piece of computer software is...? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1029 Registered: 12-2004 |
Adobe Reader? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 554 Registered: 12-2007 |
Adobe Reader? No, you're off track. It's REALLY easy, just re-read any of the latest posts... | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1049 Registered: 12-2004 |
I re-read the latest posts, but they are all either mine, which I think I know already, or yours, which I have perused for hours... Is Linux connected with the "good job"? Or does that come later? Or did that come earlier? Is the approximate retail value of the other relevant piece of computer software $19.95? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1050 Registered: 12-2004 |
Was the other relevant piece of computer software... An application? A website? A video game? Was it... System software? Programming software? Is it relevant because it was NOT on the computer, and it would be expected to be? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 555 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is Linux connected with the "good job"? Yes!... Or does that come later? No... Or did that come earlier? No... Is the approximate retail value of the other relevant piece of computer software $19.95? No, it's lower than this... Was the other relevant piece of computer software... An application? A website? A video game? None of these. Was it... System software? Yes. Programming software? Like a compiler? No. Is it relevant because it was NOT on the computer, and it would be expected to be? No. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1061 Registered: 12-2004 |
Was it Linux software? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 556 Registered: 12-2007 |
Was it Linux software? It was Linux itself. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1070 Registered: 12-2004 |
I see. | ||
| Ostap (Ostap)
New member Username: Ostap Post Number: 69 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did the computer restart with Linux? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 557 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did the computer restart with Linux? Yes. I think we've all had enough of this puzzle, so here is the ***** SPOILER ***** If you burn an auto-installing Linux CD, make sure you remove it from your drive when you're done... otherwise, Windows will sooner or later reboot and perform the most radical possible security update. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1176 Registered: 12-2004 |
I don't understand. | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 559 Registered: 12-2007 |
There are special automated installation CDs for Linux that don't require any human intervention. They are supposed to be used to set up a large number of machines at the same time. If you burn one of these CDs under Windows and you leave it in your CDROM drive, you risk installing Linux on your machine if Windows tries to reboot after installing security updates. Since Linux is reputedly much more secure than Windows, the installation could be regarded as an unexpectedly good security update (a "good job"). Hope that helps. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1208 Registered: 12-2004 |
I see. |
