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Woubit (Woubit)
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Brickarb
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Title relevant?

Is Brickarb an anagram? Is it written somewhere? Does someone say it? Is it a name? Is some quality of the word relevant (i.e. length, letters...)?

Are any of the following relevant:
Roundabouts?
Blackboards?
Hot air?
Centipedes?
Trade unions?
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Is Brickarb a noun, a verb, a person, a place, a symbol, a clue, a code, an event?

Is the answer we are looking for a word, a noun, a person, a story?
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Navigation relevant?
if so, a specific type of ship?
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Does Brickarb stanad for something? Are time period or location relevant? Is this FYOI, or a true story?
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Title relevant? yes

Is Brickarb an anagram? no Is it written somewhere? only in this puzzle, so far as I know Does someone say it? no Is it a name? no Is some quality of the word relevant (i.e. length, letters...)? see below

Is Brickarb a noun, yope a verb, no a person, no a place, no a symbol, no a clue, yes a code, no an event? no

Is the answer we are looking for a word, a noun, a person, a story? this one

Are any of the following relevant:
Roundabouts?
Blackboards?
Hot air?
Centipedes?
Trade unions? no

Navigation relevant?
if so, a specific type of ship? navigation is not relevant

Does Brickarb stand for something? yes Are time period or location relevant? yes Is this FYOI, or a true story? the latter
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Is it an acronym? A partial acronym? Does the -arb part stand for arbiter? Arbitration? Arbitrary? Arbutus? Fatty Arbuckle?

Are bricks relevant? The sale of bricks? Bricklaying? Brick-making? Is bric-a-brac relevant (eg bric and a reversed brak)?

Does the title form part of a quotation? All in all, is it just another brick in the wall?
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Is it an acronym? no A partial acronym? no Does the -arb part stand for arbiter? Arbitration? Arbitrary? Arbutus? Fatty Arbuckle? none of those, and possible FA

Are bricks relevant? The sale of bricks? Bricklaying? Brick-making? Is bric-a-brac relevant (eg bric and a reversed brak)? bricks are not relevant, but this is the right kind of thinking

Does the title form part of a quotation? the title does, yes All in all, is it just another brick in the wall? no - there are no bricks involved in this puzzle
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Do we have a dingbat on our hands? B(RICK) ARB? Has someone made a barbed remark about someone called Rick?
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Do we have a dingbat on our hands? B(RICK) ARB? that is certainly the correct way to parse the clue, yes Has someone made a barbed remark about someone called Rick? but that is not the right way to interpret it
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So a person named Rick is involved in the puzzle?
If so, is it a famous person? H-A-M? Living?
If not, does "rick" stand for "hayrick"?

A dingbat... that's a rebus of some kind, right?
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So a person named Rick is involved in the puzzle? no
If so, is it a famous person? H-A-M? Living?
If not, does "rick" stand for "hayrick"? yesish...

A dingbat... that's a rebus of some kind, right? right
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'RICK in/between/(similar) BARB'?
'RICKing BARB'?

"RICK" relevant?
"BARB" relevant?
'B/BE/BEE' relevant?

Time period relevant?
post-millenium?
20th Century?
19th Century?
pre-19th Century?

Location relevant?
Geographical location?
Outside? Inside?
Particular building(s) relevant?
Or buildings of a particular type/function?

The title is part of a quotation?
By one male? female?
Famous? Living? Adult(at the time it was stated)?
Spoken quotation? written?
Quotation expresses a view/opinion? a judgement? a rule/ruling/law?
Quotation is in the form; "In matters of commerce ____________________"?
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'RICK in/between/(similar) BARB'? yes
'RICKing BARB'? no

"RICK" relevant? yes
"BARB" relevant? yes
'B/BE/BEE' relevant? no

Time period relevant? yes - the events of this puzzle are very recent indeed, and may be considered still on-going
post-millenium?
20th Century?
19th Century?
pre-19th Century? see above

Location relevant? yes
Geographical location? yes
Outside? Inside? both, and both are relevant
Particular building(s) relevant? no
Or buildings of a particular type/function? yes

The title is part of a quotation? yes
By one male? this one female?
Famous? fairly Living? no Adult(at the time it was stated)? yes
Spoken quotation? written? this one
Quotation expresses a view/opinion? this one a judgement? a rule/ruling/law? and also this one, to an extent
Quotation is in the form; "In matters of commerce ____________________"? it is indeed. However, the puzzle is not about the events described in the quotation - the title is merely designed as a clue to the location of the events of the puzzle
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So the haystack is in the needle?

Is this refering to Iraq?

Is commerce at all relevant to the rest?

Is Enron/Conrad Black/other financial misdeeds relevant?
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So the haystack is in the needle? indeed

Is this refering to Iraq? no

Is commerce at all relevant to the rest? not really

Is Enron/Conrad Black/other financial misdeeds relevant? no
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So someone has been trying to find something very large amongst something very small? Does this have anything to do with scientific research? Particle physics? Doctor Who?

Now that Tsoram has sorted out the 'haystack in the needle' idea, is it possible to abandon the dingbat in favour of the alternative title 'the haystack in the needle'? Or does the dingbat contain some other relevant contextual info?

Anything to do with camels? Elephants in rooms?
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So someone has been trying to find something very large amongst something very small? no Does this have anything to do with scientific research? Particle physics? Doctor Who? with none of these

Now that Tsoram has sorted out the 'haystack in the needle' idea, is it possible to abandon the dingbat in favour of the alternative title 'the haystack in the needle'? yes Or does the dingbat contain some other relevant contextual info? no

Anything to do with camels? Elephants in rooms? with none of these
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Are we in the field of :

Medicine?
Politics?
Crime?
Polls/surveys?
countryside?
technology?
printing?
research?
history?
literature?
quiz shows?
music?
Theatre?
cinema?
Science fiction?
sociology?
finance?
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Not sure if there is a standard list still kicking about but... consider it posted!
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Are we in the field of :

Medicine?
Politics? to some extent
Crime? to a somewhat greater extent
Polls/surveys?
countryside?
technology?
printing?
research?
history?
literature?
quiz shows?
music?
Theatre?
cinema?
Science fiction?
sociology?
finance?
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Corrupt politicians?

I have to ask this... is Italy relevant?
If not, let's try to narrow down the geographical location. Are we looking for a specific country? City? Or are we looking for a general type of place (e.g. cinema)?
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Corrupt politicians? not this sort of thing

I have to ask this... is Italy relevant? doubtless, but not to this puzzle
If not, let's try to narrow down the geographical location. Are we looking for a specific country? this one City? Or are we looking for a general type of place (e.g. cinema)? and this one, but not the cinema
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just an idea: the Netherlands relevant? and, Amsterdam specifically?
and then, would it be possible to replace the "hay" mentioned above by "grass" without going too much away from the right track?
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Continuing the junkie theme: is the 'needle' a hypodermic syringe? One used for injecting drugs? Or inducing anaesthesia?

Is it one particular needle, or is 'needle' used metonymically (eg to mean drugs or anaesthesia in general)?

Just for the sake of elimination, I take it that this is not Cleopatra's Needle? Or a sewing needle? Or any one of the Needles off the IOW?
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just an idea: the Netherlands relevant? yes and, Amsterdam specifically? no, other towns in the Netherlands would do as well
and then, would it be possible to replace the "hay" mentioned above by "grass" without going too much away from the right track? it would indeed

Continuing the junkie theme: is the 'needle' a hypodermic syringe? One used for injecting drugs? Or inducing anaesthesia? no - the needle is a purely metaphorical needle

Is it one particular needle, or is 'needle' used metonymically (eg to mean drugs or anaesthesia in general)? see above

Just for the sake of elimination, I take it that this is not Cleopatra's Needle? Or a sewing needle? Or any one of the Needles off the IOW? see further above
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Hello Woubit. Nice to see you back. How was your vacation?

Some recent law regarding smoking in public places relevant?

if so, I think I might know what the rick within the barb could be, so I would duly stand aside and let the others finish off. ;)
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Some recent law regarding smoking in public places relevant? very much so
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So are the people who are looking for needle in the haystack the people charged with enforcing the smoking ban? i.e. health inspectors? Is searching for evidence of smoking in a public place relevant? Looking for ash? cigarette butts? discarded matches?
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Normally, the police arrest you if there's hash in your tobacco, but under the new Dutch law, they'll arrest you if there is even a shred of tobacco in your hash? Anything along these lines?
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So are the people who are looking for needle in the haystack the people charged with enforcing the smoking ban? i.e. health inspectors? Is searching for evidence of smoking in a public place relevant? Looking for ash? cigarette butts? discarded matches? this is also along the right lines, but this...

Normally, the police arrest you if there's hash in your tobacco, but under the new Dutch law, they'll arrest you if there is even a shred of tobacco in your hash? Anything along these lines? ...is absolutely right - well done

***** SPOILER *****

As Woodworm says, since the Netherlands has recently joined the list of European countries that ban smoking indoors in public places, it is now illegal to do so - provided that what you are smoking is tobacco.

However, there are places in the Netherlands where it is legal to smoke marijuana (indoors or out). Formerly, of course, this was done in the time-honoured manner - small amounts of hash were rolled in an ordinary tobacco cigarette. Now this is against the law, so that the Dutch police have the task of looking for a "haystack in a needle" (that is, reversing the usual order in which one tries to find things).

Well done everyone - those who solved the crossword clue and those who solved the puzzle. Further puzzles where the statement itself is in the form of a crossword clue will be published as soon as I can think of any.

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