| Author | Message | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 640 Registered: 9-2007 |
Vivi finally got her dream job. On her first day, she went up to her office, but she stopped before entering her cabin. She stood there for a few seconds with a look of utter disbelief on her face, then walked to a nearby phone. She called up Paul and said, "They did it again!" | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 88 Registered: 1-2008 |
You said "cabin." Does that have to do with a cabin of a plane? A cabin in the woods? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 1471 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is 9/11 relevant.? Your puzzle title looks a bit like a plane heading for some buildings. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 641 Registered: 9-2007 |
You said "cabin." Does that have to do with a cabin of a plane? A cabin in the woods? Nope Is 9/11 relevant.? Your puzzle title looks a bit like a plane heading for some buildings. Yikes didn't think of that, sorry nothing to do with 9/11 | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 533 Registered: 12-2007 |
A cabin on the beach? On a ship? On some kind of vehicle? A cubicle? Vivi's job: Artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Criminal/Questionable Repute? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media? Environmental/Outdoors/Nature? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Other ? Is Paul Vivi's husband? Son? Brother? Father? Are they friends? Do they know each other? Is Paul a police officer or a fireman? | ||
| Bigpurple (Bigpurple)
New member Username: Bigpurple Post Number: 116 Registered: 8-2008 |
Is it something to do with how they put her name on her door? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1560 Registered: 3-2006 |
I've seen those symbols before but I can't think where. Anything to do with eye tests? Television screens? Computers? Is her name relevant in some weirdly cryptic way? Is she an air traffic controller? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 642 Registered: 9-2007 |
A cabin on the beach? On a ship? On some kind of vehicle? A cubicle? Just a typical office cabin. Vivi's job: Artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial This one /real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Criminal/Questionable Repute? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media? Environmental/Outdoors/Nature? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Other ? Is Paul Vivi's husband? Son? Brother? Father? Are they friends? Yes Do they know each other? Is Paul a police officer or a fireman? Is it something to do with how they put her name on her door? YOPE, good question I've seen those symbols before but I can't think where. Anything to do with eye tests? Television screens? Computers? Vaguely related to this. Is her name relevant in some weirdly cryptic way? No Is she an air traffic controller? No | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 534 Registered: 12-2007 |
Are the symbols an emoticon? The first part =.= looks like a sleepy face, the second part ||| looks like... hmm... jail bars?! | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3780 Registered: 12-2000 |
Did they put up Vivi Section? | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 917 Registered: 9-2003 |
Did they spell her name "Fifi"? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 643 Registered: 9-2007 |
Are the symbols an emoticon? YES! The first part =.= looks like a sleepy face close but not this , the second part ||| looks like... hmm... jail bars?! Nope Did they put up Vivi Section? No Did they spell her name "Fifi"? No | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1441 Registered: 6-2005 |
Does her issue have to do with whether she has a door at all? Her name... on the door? On the wall? Did they put her name up at all? Did they mispell her name? Abreviate it inappropriately somehow? Include her middle name and made it sound odd? Pornstar name relevant? Is she claustrophobic and doesn't like an enclosed office? Does she need quiet to do her work and thus would rather have an enclosed office? Is her door see-through (glass), thus she can't change clothes in her office (to go to the gym or when coming back from some activity)? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1442 Registered: 6-2005 |
Ooop... couple more ideas... Did they leave the name of the previous resident on the door? Are they making her share an office? Did they put her name second when it should be first? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1563 Registered: 3-2006 |
=.= resembles a cat. Is this close? A caged cat? A tiger, maybe? Is she a circus performer? A lion tamer? Lion tamer's assistant? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3791 Registered: 12-2000 |
Anything to do with Roman numerals? vi vi : 6 6 ? or 5 4 1 etc? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 537 Registered: 12-2007 |
Oh. Is it the japanese cat of good fortune (what was its name now...)? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 431 Registered: 5-2003 |
Does this have to do with the bars on bank doors? According to an earlier Sloane puzzle they're for judging the height of bank robbers or something? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3792 Registered: 12-2000 |
We just have a height chart on the inside wall by our shop door (we used to have a Post Office as well before it was chopped away) - it was issued by the local police for that purpose (judging the height of people running away). The local kids use it to check their height. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 645 Registered: 9-2007 |
Does her issue have to do with whether she has a door at all? No Her name... on the door? Not her name, no...but... On the wall? Did they put her name up at all? Did they mispell her name? Abreviate it inappropriately somehow? Include her middle name and made it sound odd? Pornstar name relevant? Is she claustrophobic and doesn't like an enclosed office? Does she need quiet to do her work and thus would rather have an enclosed office? Is her door see-through (glass), thus she can't change clothes in her office (to go to the gym or when coming back from some activity)? None of these Ooop... couple more ideas... Did they leave the name of the previous resident on the door? Are they making her share an office? Did they put her name second when it should be first? None of these =.= resembles a cat. Is this close? It's more an expression than anything else, just like any other ASCII emoticon, so don't stray too far :-) A caged cat? A tiger, maybe? Is she a circus performer? A lion tamer? Lion tamer's assistant? No to all Anything to do with Roman numerals? vi vi : 6 6 ? or 5 4 1 etc? No to all Oh. Is it the japanese cat of good fortune (what was its name now...)? Nope Does this have to do with the bars on bank doors? According to an earlier Sloane puzzle they're for judging the height of bank robbers or something? They're not bars mate :-) The emoticon itself is only indirectly relevant to the puzzle, so I would suggest you look elsewhere for groundwork. Also, don't get hung up on her name (i did say yope!) so find out more :-) | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 119 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did it have to do with the title on the door? Was she given the wrong job title? Wrong department? Was this something that happened to Vivi before? Anything to do with the fact that she is in the financial industry? | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 120 Registered: 3-2006 |
First emoticon mean annoyance, scorn, or tired (eyes shut), grumpy? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 647 Registered: 9-2007 |
Did it have to do with the title on the door? YES Was she given the wrong job title? YESISH Wrong department? Was this something that happened to Vivi before? YES Anything to do with the fact that she is in the financial industry? But this is only partially relevant First emoticon mean annoyance, scorn, or tired (eyes shut), grumpy? Annoyance is close enough | ||
| Juliandave (Juliandave)
New member Username: Juliandave Post Number: 15 Registered: 10-2008 |
Is the title on the door a pun? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 649 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is the title on the door a pun? No | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 122 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does it have something to do with her name Vivi? Or her sex (e.g. placing Mr. on the door instead of MS. or Mrs.)? Does her nationality have any relevance? Could this have happened if she were not in the financial industry? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 650 Registered: 9-2007 |
Does it have something to do with her name Vivi? NoOr her sex (e.g. placing Mr. on the door instead of MS. or Mrs.)? No Does her nationality have any relevance? YES with just a tiny ish but think yes for now, I'll lead you to the right track later. Good question! Could this have happened if she were not in the financial industry? Hypothetically, yes | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 69 Registered: 9-2008 |
Any foreign linguistic or cultural details relevant? Anything to do with a language/culture that forms names differently than English does (i.e. patronymics, different last names for male and female, etc.)? Is this happening in the US? England? Another English-speaking country? Somewhere else? Relevant? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 651 Registered: 9-2007 |
Any foreign linguistic or cultural details relevant? Yes Anything to do with a language/culture that forms names differently than English does (i.e. patronymics, different last names for male and female, etc.)? No, again, please remember it's the job title and not the name that is relevant. Is this happening in the US? England? Another English-speaking country? Somewhere else? Yes Relevant? Yes | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 1497 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is Vivi working in a foreign country (to her I mean)? Is her job in the Finance Company something to do with foreign exchange? Is the word foreign on the door? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 655 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is Vivi working in a foreign country (to her I mean)? No Is her job in the Finance Company something to do with foreign exchange? No Is the word foreign on the door? No | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 25 Registered: 10-2008 |
when combined with her name, does the job title spell something humorous or degrading? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 657 Registered: 9-2007 |
when combined with her name, does the job title spell something humorous or degrading? Forget about her name already :-D the job title is all that is relevant | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1195 Registered: 11-2003 |
You said that Vivi is in her native country, but what about the company, is it a foreign one? Is the language on the sign relevant? If so, is it in the native language? English? other? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 660 Registered: 9-2007 |
You said that Vivi is in her native country, but what about the company, is it a foreign one? YES it is an international company Is the language on the sign relevant? Yes If so, is it in the native language? English? It is in english, yes, but there's more to it... explore this ... good questions! other? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3796 Registered: 12-2000 |
Is this an example of poor translation into English? Does she help people start their own business? 'Mind your own business'. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 661 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is this an example of poor translation into English? YES! Brilliant as usual Lynne :-)Does she help people start their own business? 'Mind your own business'. But not this...would help now to find out what her correct job title was... | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 121 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was she a manager and the badge said "Manger"? Or maybe "Mangler?" | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 122 Registered: 9-2008 |
Sorry, I meant the sign. I've been playing another puzzle that involved a badge. But did it say "Manger" or "Mangler" instead of "Manager"? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 662 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was she a manager and the badge said "Manger"? Or maybe "Mangler?" Nope Sorry, I meant the sign. I've been playing another puzzle that involved a badge. But did it say "Manger" or "Mangler" instead of "Manager"? The key point to remember is that there was poor translation involved; it wasn't just a typo :-) | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 123 Registered: 3-2006 |
Would her correct job title be President? Vice President? CEO? Manager? Department Head? Attorney? Accountant? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 663 Registered: 9-2007 |
Would her correct job title be President? Vice President? CEO? Close to this! Think finance :-) Manager? Department Head? Attorney? Accountant? | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 140 Registered: 1-2008 |
CFO? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 667 Registered: 9-2007 |
CFO? YES! She was in fact a Chief Financial Officer, but the sign on the door said something not quite accurate... can you find out what it said? | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 141 Registered: 1-2008 |
Was it something finance related? Was it a completely different field altogether? Was there a misspelling that changed the meaning? Did the sign on the door not reflect the status of her position? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 669 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was it something finance related? Yope Was it a completely different field altogether? No Was there a misspelling that changed the meaning? Not a misspelling, see below Did the sign on the door not reflect the status of her position? In fact, it didn't refer to any position at all, though it should have! I'll point out that it has already been established that translation into English is involved. | ||
| Racoonieboy (Racoonieboy)
New member Username: Racoonieboy Post Number: 12 Registered: 10-2008 |
DO the 3 lines in the title stand for 3?(III) | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 673 Registered: 9-2007 |
DO the 3 lines in the title stand for 3?(III) Not the number but they are 3 of something... anyway would strongly suggest you forget about the title and focus on finding out more about the sign! REMINDER: Translation!! | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1197 Registered: 11-2003 |
Do we need to know anything about the language it was translated from? | ||
| Racoonieboy (Racoonieboy)
New member Username: Racoonieboy Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2008 |
Is the translation Spanish? | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 125 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was VIVI Indian? Spanish? French? Italian? From Europe? Asia? Middle East? South America? Central America? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 675 Registered: 9-2007 |
Do we need to know anything about the language it was translated from? You need to know what the language is, and a little something about translation in general... Is the translation Spanish? No Was VIVI Indian? Spanish? French? Italian? From Europe? Asia? Middle East? South America? Central America? Let me skip a step and say she's Chinese :-) | ||
| Racoonieboy (Racoonieboy)
New member Username: Racoonieboy Post Number: 38 Registered: 10-2008 |
Ah! Chinese! Hmm.... I dont know Chinese T-T | ||
| Racoonieboy (Racoonieboy)
New member Username: Racoonieboy Post Number: 39 Registered: 10-2008 |
Random: Oh! 3 annoyances for the title? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 679 Registered: 9-2007 |
Ah! Chinese! Hmm.... I dont know Chinese T-T No knowledge of Chinese required, except that it's the language that the sign was translated from into english. Random: Oh! 3 annoyances for the title? Nope, and pretty please everyone, just leave the title alone :-D | ||
| Racoonieboy (Racoonieboy)
New member Username: Racoonieboy Post Number: 49 Registered: 10-2008 |
Sorry to say this but... does it involve racism? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 681 Registered: 9-2007 |
Sorry to say this but... does it involve racism? No need to apologise :-) but there's no racism involved here | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 683 Registered: 9-2007 |
HINT: Read Lynne's post above that talks about translation, that is the vital aspect here... | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1450 Registered: 6-2005 |
So Vivi's a chief finance officer... and it was her...name? title? job description?... that translated poorly? Something like... "Money Police"? Or were the characters CFO translated badly? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 685 Registered: 9-2007 |
So Vivi's a chief finance officer... and it was her...name? title? This one job description?... that translated poorly? Yes! Something like... "Money Police"? OTRT! Or were the characters CFO translated badly? You've pretty much got it, you just need to find out exactly what this mistranslation was. | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1453 Registered: 6-2005 |
The words used in her title... Chief? Head? Top? Other synonym for chief? Money? Gold? Finance? Treasure? Other synonym for finance? or money? Officer? Police? Accountant? Something extremely derogatory? Other synonym for officer? "Top Money Whore"? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 686 Registered: 9-2007 |
The words used in her title... Chief? Head? Top? Other synonym for chief? Money? Gold? Finance? This one in a different form Treasure? Other synonym for finance? or money? Officer? Police? Accountant? Something extremely derogatory? Other synonym for officer? None of these, actually it didn't refer to her at all! "Top Money Whore"? Hahaha that would have been hilarious, but this is an actual translation, though it probably wouldn't have been done by anyone who knew Chinese well enough. | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 8 Registered: 11-2008 |
Financial affairs is everywhere long. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 690 Registered: 9-2007 |
Financial affairs is everywhere long. YES! Unless you are a linguist, I assume you are good at googling. *******SPOILER******** Chinglish is a portmanteau of the words Chinese and English and refers to spoken or written English which is influenced by Chinese. "Financial Affairs is Everywhere Long" - that's what Vivi's job title said. The word Chief Financial Officer in Chinese should be separated as "Financial Office" + "Officer of", but it could also literally be separated as "Financial Affairs" + "Everywhere" + "Long", thus the confusion. This is most likely a product of machine translation, for no Chinese person would understand the word in such a way. At Vivi's previous job, which was in a dry goods pricing department, her english visiting card said something too cheeky for me to mention in LTPF - I'll let you guys check that one out yourselves. Thanks for playing along! | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2008 |
Neither, it was something funny I remember when reading about Chinglish a few months ago. Haha. Good puzzle. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 691 Registered: 9-2007 |
Aaah ok :-) well done! PS: The emoticon on the title is just a sorta annoyed expression with three fingers pointing up near the face to denote sweat dripping down one's face. This is pretty popular in East Asia. Some of my chinese friends use this Chinglish expression a lot when they chat online and are exasperated about something : " =.=||| I no words." | ||
| Blazingphoenix (Blazingphoenix)
New member Username: Blazingphoenix Post Number: 294 Registered: 2-2007 |
you can also use a U to make a sweatdrop, like this---> -__-U |
