| Author | Message | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 66 Registered: 5-2008 |
I suppose she did both things I had asked her to do. I would rather she hadn't. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 692 Registered: 9-2007 |
Be careful what you wish/ask for! Did she do them exactly the way you intended her to? Or just techinically correct but the process or outcome was different from what you expected? Were their some unwanted side-effects of sorts that resulted from her doing said things? Were the two things related? Is she related to you? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 67 Registered: 5-2008 |
Be careful what you wish/ask for! Maybe I should! Did she do them exactly the way you intended her to? yes Or just techinically correct but the process or outcome was different from what you expected? she did both things, but the outcome was different to what I'd expected Were their some unwanted side-effects of sorts that resulted from her doing said things? yes Were the two things related? yes Is she related to you? yes | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami Post Number: 345 Registered: 2-2008 |
Did you expect her to do them at all? If so, did she do them when you expected her to? Could you have predicted the outcome at any time before she did them? Is she a sister? Daughter? Mother? Wife? Relevant? Is anyone involved other than you and her? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 69 Registered: 5-2008 |
Did you expect her to do them at all? yope (is probably the best answer I can give, sorry) If so, did she do them when you expected her to? yes (assuming she was to do them) Could you have predicted the outcome at any time before she did them? probably, but I failed to Is she a sister? Daughter? yes Mother? Wife? Relevant? yes Is anyone involved other than you and her? noone else who's relevant to the puzzle | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 1542 Registered: 1-2007 |
Anyhting to do with silly things parents say to their children? e.g Shut your mouth and eat your dinner. Or perhaps she misunderstood sarcasm something like "That's right go ahead and spill your juice all over the carpet"? Did your child take something you said literally when she shouldn't have? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 810 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did you tell her to go swimming? And to not go with a buddy? And she got eaten by a shark? | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami Post Number: 350 Registered: 2-2008 |
Did your request involve an "if"? Were you expecting her to only do one of the things? Did her doing the things cause... a serious problem? Any real danger? An inconvenience? Loss of possessions? Loss of money? A misunderstanding? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 70 Registered: 5-2008 |
Anyhting to do with silly things parents say to their children? e.g Shut your mouth and eat your dinner. no Or perhaps she misunderstood sarcasm something like "That's right go ahead and spill your juice all over the carpet"? no Did your child take something you said literally when she shouldn't have? no Did you tell her to go swimming? And to not go with a buddy? And she got eaten by a shark? no Did your request involve an "if"? not in that context Were you expecting her to only do one of the things? no Did her doing the things cause... a serious problem? Any real danger? An inconvenience? yes Loss of possessions? Loss of money? A misunderstanding? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 827 Registered: 12-2004 |
Was the reason why the outcome different from what you expected... Because of a change in circumstances? Because of a dichotomy of spatial relativity? Because you are not very good at predicting the future? Because you made a false assumption? Because you had a passive scrund? Because there was cosmic irony? Because she had done the same thing before with different results? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 74 Registered: 5-2008 |
Was the reason why the outcome different from what you expected... Because of a change in circumstances? no Because of a dichotomy of spatial relativity? sorry, you'll have to explain this to me Because you are not very good at predicting the future? yes-ish Because you made a false assumption? yes Because you had a passive scrund? no Because there was cosmic irony? yes, comic irony, although I do like the idea of 'cosmic' irony Because she had done the same thing before with different results? yes | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 859 Registered: 12-2004 |
So was it comic irony or cosmic irony? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 75 Registered: 5-2008 |
Now I feel stupid, it was cosmic, not comic irony afterall, sorry for any confusion there | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 76 Registered: 5-2008 |
so, to clear things up a little: Because there was cosmic irony? yes | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 862 Registered: 12-2004 |
It was my fault, though. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 863 Registered: 12-2004 |
Were the two things... things that would be done consecutively? simultaneously? nobody cares? Would it have been better if she hadn't done either? Had done one of the two? Had done the things at a different time? In a different place? In a different manner? Did you realize? Your mistake? Immediately afterward? A few seconds later? Ten years down the line? I believe the Ellimist once said something like, "Everything changes the future..." Is that quote relevant? Are all your base belong to us? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 77 Registered: 5-2008 |
Were the two things... things that would be done consecutively? they could be this simultaneously? but they could also be this nobody cares? Would it have been better if she hadn't done either? yes Had done one of the two? yes Had done the things at a different time? In a different place? In a different manner? under the circumstances, these questions are hard to answer. Basically this is because one of the two things I asked her to do, was to avoid doing something Did you realize? Your mistake? Immediately afterward? no A few seconds later? yes, a few seconds to minutes later Ten years down the line? no I believe the Ellimist once said something like, "Everything changes the future..." Is that quote relevant? no Are all your base belong to us? no | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did the "things" consist in doing something? saying something? Is the age of your daughter relevant? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 78 Registered: 5-2008 |
Did the "things" consist in doing something? one was doing something, the other was avoiding doing something saying something? no Is the age of your daughter relevant? yes | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 4 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is she younger than 5? 10? 15? 20? Did any of the two things (ie doing something/avoiding doing something) involve SAYING something? Was anything broken in the process (of her obeying you?) Was the inconvenience a big one? Was it only an inconvenience to you (which did not involve any other person)? Or to her? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 80 Registered: 5-2008 |
Is she younger than 5? yes, she's 3 10? 15? 20? Did any of the two things (ie doing something/avoiding doing something) involve SAYING something? no Was anything broken in the process (of her obeying you?) no Was the inconvenience a big one? not in the grand scheme of things, but it seemed so at the time Was it only an inconvenience to you (which did not involve any other person)? no Or to her? yes | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did she hurt herself? Did the "do-it" thing involve going somewhere? taking something? Did the "don't do-it" thing involve going somewhere? taking something? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 81 Registered: 5-2008 |
Did she hurt herself? no Did the "do-it" thing involve going somewhere? yes taking something? no Did the "don't do-it" thing involve going somewhere? no taking something? no | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2008 |
Were it rather her feelings which were hurt? So you told her to go somewhere and not to do something, right? Was the place she was supposed to go far away? In the same room? Flat? Or was it outside? If she only obeyed the do-thing, would the outcome have been better for her? anyone else? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 82 Registered: 5-2008 |
Were it rather her feelings which were hurt? no So you told her to go somewhere and not to do something, right? yes Was the place she was supposed to go far away? no In the same room? no Flat? within the same house Or was it outside? no If she only obeyed the do-thing, would the outcome have been better for her? yes anyone else? yes, it would have been better for me too | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was the place you sent her to a specific room? The "don't" thing - was it something what would have involved her active participation if she did it (like "don't throw that ball inside the house")? or rather a warning ("don't slip on the wet floor") ? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 83 Registered: 5-2008 |
Was the place you sent her to a specific room? yes, but 'sent' seems a strong word for it The "don't" thing - was it something what would have involved her active participation if she did it (like "don't throw that ball inside the house")? no or rather a warning ("don't slip on the wet floor") ? yes | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 16 Registered: 11-2008 |
OK, I am thinking of something milder than "sent" - did you just tell her to go there? Are we to find which room it was? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 91 Registered: 5-2008 |
OK, I am thinking of something milder than "sent" - did you just tell her to go there? yes Are we to find which room it was? yes | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 23 Registered: 11-2008 |
Bathroom? Living room? Kitchen? Child's room? Bedroom? Pantry? Was the "don't" thing somehow related to her hurting herself if she did not obey? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 93 Registered: 5-2008 |
Bathroom? Living room? Kitchen? Child's room? Bedroom? yes Pantry? Was the "don't" thing somehow related to her hurting herself if she did not obey? no | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 24 Registered: 11-2008 |
So you said "go to the bedroom and don't XXX?" she went to the bedroom and did not do XXX and this caused her an inconvenience, right? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 94 Registered: 5-2008 |
So you said "go to the bedroom and don't XXX?" slight correction, it was more like ...don't XXX, come to our bedroom instead she went to the bedroom and did not do XXX and this caused her an inconvenience, right? she came to our bedroom (as oppose to went, as it was the middle of the night), having not done XXX | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 26 Registered: 11-2008 |
don't put on the lights? cry? be sad? jump? Was the "don't" thing a movement? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 96 Registered: 5-2008 |
don't put on the lights? cry? be sad? jump? none of these Was the "don't" thing a movement? no HINT: I posted this puzzle the morning after it happened (date?). Remember, she is little | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 28 Registered: 11-2008 |
Guy Fawkes relevant? ;-)) | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 97 Registered: 5-2008 |
Guy Fawkes relevant? ;-)) yes, you're nearly there | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2008 |
Were fireworks involved? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 920 Registered: 12-2004 |
I leave this to UK'ers. I'm very unfamiliar with Guy Fawkes night (I know that some gunpowder plot was foiled, something else...) I'll just chillax. | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 98 Registered: 5-2008 |
Were fireworks involved? yes, they were the trigger to the whole thing. They'd a caused a problem the previous night and I thought that by asking her to do two things if she got frightened, we'd avoid the problem I leave this to UK'ers. I'm very unfamiliar with Guy Fawkes night (I know that some gunpowder plot was foiled, something else...) I'll just chillax. the fact that there were fireworks going off in the night is the only way that the date was relevant. It could just as easily have been New Year's Eve | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 34 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was there any relevant obstacle between your bedroom and your daughter? (such as a staircase?) | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 100 Registered: 5-2008 |
Was there any relevant obstacle between your bedroom and your daughter? (such as a staircase?) no, in fact remember that she had already avoided doing the other thing before coming to my bed | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 924 Registered: 12-2004 |
If you get scared, follow these two steps: (1) do not dial 112 (2) come to our bedroom. | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 102 Registered: 5-2008 |
If you get scared, follow these two steps: (1) do not dial 112 no, remember she's little, think of something you learn not to do when you're scared, or when you're in bed, when you're growing up (2) come to our bedroom. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 35 Registered: 11-2008 |
do not scream? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 103 Registered: 5-2008 |
do not scream? no, it's another bodily reaction to fear | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 927 Registered: 12-2004 |
Run away? Hide under the bed? Wrap oneself up with a blanket like a burrito? Soil yourself? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 37 Registered: 11-2008 |
run? pee? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 928 Registered: 12-2004 |
Great minds think | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 104 Registered: 5-2008 |
Run away? Hide under the bed? Wrap oneself up with a blanket like a burrito? Soil yourself? yes run?no pee? yes So, why do you think I'd rather she hadn't done the two things? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 39 Registered: 11-2008 |
did she, um, pee in your bed? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 930 Registered: 12-2004 |
She went into your bedroom? And then her bladder exploded? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 41 Registered: 11-2008 |
what did you say about great minds ;-))? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 106 Registered: 5-2008 |
did she, um, pee in your bed? She went into your bedroom? And then her bladder exploded? You got it people ********SPOILER******** She'd peed in her the bed the night before when some fireworks went off, so I thought I'd be all clever and kind. "If the fireworks scare you tonight, " I said, "please don't wet your bed, come into our bed instead". I meant for a cuddle. Thanks for playing and I hope you enjoyed it | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 42 Registered: 11-2008 |
Thanks for the puzzle! And, off the record, as a proud mother of a five-year-old and a three-year old, I deeply feel with you ;-)) | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 933 Registered: 12-2004 |
That is a brilliant thing to say to a three-year-old. I'm going to remember that for when I have a bunch of three-year-olds of my own. | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 108 Registered: 5-2008 |
I'm going to remember to be more specific in the future!! My daughter (and my wife) disappeared off and slept in my daughter's bed, leaving me to change the sheets by the way. Lucky me. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 44 Registered: 11-2008 |
Doctapeppa, you should not lose hope - there are also children who are NOT obedient ;-)) | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 935 Registered: 12-2004 |
Ah, yes. I won't give up yet. But there is also a wonderful device called a shock collar. |
