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Obvious (Obvious)
New member Username: Obvious
Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 1:23 am: |      |
A person who isn't crazy, screams, and then begins loading eggs into her grocery cart |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 1251 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 1:28 am: |      |
Is this person crazy? |
Obvious (Obvious)
New member Username: Obvious
Post Number: 12 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 1:31 am: |      |
Is this person crazy? No she is not crazy and has no mental illness |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1253 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 1:35 am: |      |
A person = H? A? F? She screams? In pain? In fear? In delight? Is she in a grocery store? |
Obvious (Obvious)
New member Username: Obvious
Post Number: 17 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 1:42 am: |      |
HAF: yes She screams yes In pain? In fear? In delight? No to all Is she in a grocery store? yes |
Scood (Scood)
New member Username: Scood
Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 3:48 am: |      |
when she screams do other people hear it. |
Obvious (Obvious)
New member Username: Obvious
Post Number: 22 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 3:59 am: |      |
when she screams do other people hear it. yes |
Scood (Scood)
New member Username: Scood
Post Number: 34 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:12 am: |      |
is easter relavant? breakfast? is she doing something else other than what was said? |
Erinye (Erinye)
New member Username: Erinye
Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:13 am: |      |
Was she previously planning to buy the eggs? (i.e. not just an impulse buy} Did she see or hear something that compelled her to buy the eggs, or made it seem like a good idea? Did she forget something prior to this? |
Obvious (Obvious)
New member Username: Obvious
Post Number: 24 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:23 am: |      |
Was she previously planning to buy the eggs? (i.e. not just an impulse buy} It is not an impulse buy Did she see or hear something that compelled her to buy the eggs, or made it seem like a good idea No, the eggs could have easily been any item in the store Did she forget something prior to this? Please be more specific |
Erinye (Erinye)
New member Username: Erinye
Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:29 am: |      |
Specific, eh... Did she forget a task? An event? A need? |
Scood (Scood)
New member Username: Scood
Post Number: 38 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:32 am: |      |
i think my question was ignored is easter relavant? breakfast? is she doing something else other than what was said? |
Obvious (Obvious)
New member Username: Obvious
Post Number: 26 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:34 am: |      |
she forgot no task, event or need prior to placing the eggs in the cart |
Scood (Scood)
New member Username: Scood
Post Number: 39 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:36 am: |      |
are you ignoring my question on purpose? |
Obvious (Obvious)
New member Username: Obvious
Post Number: 27 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:38 am: |      |
sorry scood, I completely missed your question is easter relavant? no breakfast? no is she doing something else other than what was said? I have described the actions she was engaging in at this time |
Erinye (Erinye)
New member Username: Erinye
Post Number: 9 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:45 am: |      |
Is the quantity of eggs she is loading into her cart relevant? |
Obvious (Obvious)
New member Username: Obvious
Post Number: 28 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 4:52 am: |      |
Is the quantity of eggs she is loading into her cart relevant? No |
Erinye (Erinye)
New member Username: Erinye
Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 5:08 am: |      |
Is she screaming at family members/children? Fellow shoppers? Store employees? |
Obvious (Obvious)
New member Username: Obvious
Post Number: 29 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 5:23 am: |      |
Is she screaming at family members/children? Fellow shoppers? Store employees? No to all |
Biograd (Biograd)
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Post Number: 280 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 5:53 am: |      |
Is the scream just a sound, or does she exclaim words? Does she scream because of an emotion, or does she just decide to do it? Would she scream even if she knew nobody could hear it? |
Martinfg (Martinfg)
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Post Number: 628 Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 10:12 am: |      |
Is she screaming so that someone will hear? Who hears the screams: Other shoppers? store employees? someone else? |
Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary
Post Number: 123 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 1:42 pm: |      |
Awesome sale on eggs? |
Obvious (Obvious)
New member Username: Obvious
Post Number: 30 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 2:00 pm: |      |
Is the scream just a sound, or does she exclaim words? no Does she scream because of an emotion, or does she just decide to do it? No to both Would she scream even if she knew nobody could hear it? yes Is she screaming so that someone will hear? no Who hears the screams: Other shoppers? store employees? someone else yes, yes, yes Awesome sale on eggs? no |
Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary
Post Number: 128 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 3:25 pm: |      |
Drugs involved? A scream of shock? Does an action/event cause her to scream? Does an object cause her to scream? Does another person to cause her to scream? Was she hurt? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 32 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 5:56 pm: |      |
Drugs involved? no A scream of shock? please define shock Does an action/event cause her to scream? yes Does an object cause her to scream? no Does another person to cause her to scream? no |
Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary
Post Number: 136 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 6:11 pm: |      |
A scream because she was startled? A scream of surprise? A scream of shock to sudden pain? WAS SHE HURT? <-missed that one |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 34 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 7:12 pm: |      |
A scream because she was startled? A scream of surprise? A scream of shock to sudden pain? WAS SHE HURT? No to all |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 44 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 7:23 pm: |      |
Lets recap with a few hints. In a grocery store, a human adult female screams, and then begins loading eggs into her shopping cart. Her gender and age are irrelevant She is not crazy, not hurt, and not on drugs. Something caused her to scream. This something is a big clue as to why she engaged in such actions. What other reason could have caused her to scream before loading up the eggs? She is not screaming as the result of an emotion, person, or object, and she is not screaming at someone elese, but we know that she definitely screamed and others could hear it. She did not scream to get the attention of others. She forgot no task, event, or need prior to placing the eggs in the cart. The eggs could easily be replaced by any item in the store, though she was not impulsively purchasing them. The number of eggs, day of the week, and time of the year is completely irrelevant to her actions |
Biograd (Biograd)
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Post Number: 286 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 10:16 pm: |      |
Could she just as well have screamed in an electronics store immediately before purchasing, for example, an iPod? in a shoe store before purchasing a pair of shoes? in any other type of store? Could she have similarly screamed in a restaurant before ordering off the menu (aside from the fact this would probably make the waiter/waitress think she was nuts!)? in a library before selecting a book? Are prices relevant? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 51 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:01 pm: |      |
Could she just as well have screamed in an electronics store immediately before purchasing, for example, an iPod? in a shoe store before purchasing a pair of shoes? in any other type of store? yes Could she have similarly screamed in a restaurant before ordering off the menu (aside from the fact this would probably make the waiter/waitress think she was nuts!)? yesish in a library before selecting a book?yes Are prices relevant? no |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1322 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:08 pm: |      |
Is there any purpose behind the screaming? Would an ordinary person scream? Under the same circumstances? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 53 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:17 pm: |      |
Is there any purpose behind the screaming? Would an ordinary person scream? Define purpose and ordinary Under the same circumstances? yope, regardless of any characteristic of the person, beyond obvious traits like a nonverbal person wouldn't scream |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1326 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:18 pm: |      |
Did she hope to accomplish anything by screaming? Or did her neurons accidentally fire and she screamed for no apparent reason? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 54 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:25 pm: |      |
Did she hope to accomplish anything by screaming? no Or did her neurons accidentally fire and she screamed for no apparent reason?yes |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1331 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:32 pm: |      |
Did she have any kind of neurological condition? Were any electromagnetic fields relevant? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 56 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:40 pm: |      |
Did she have any kind of neurological condition? Were any electromagnetic fields relevant? yes, No |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1334 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:45 pm: |      |
Tourette syndrome relevant? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 58 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:46 pm: |      |
Tourette syndrome relevant? She does not have tourette syndrome |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1335 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:47 pm: |      |
Hmmm... that's like the only neurological condition I know... Are there any other people relevant to the puzzle? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 59 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:53 pm: |      |
Are there any other people relevant to the puzzle? No |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1339 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:58 pm: |      |
[insert LTPF of neurological-related topics] Is it relevant what condition she had? Should I even try to figure out what condition she had? Should I even try to solve this puzzle at all? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 61 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 12:07 am: |      |
Is it relevant what condition she had? yes Should I even try to figure out what condition she had? yes Should I even try to solve this puzzle at all? you've come very close and you are on the right track, so go for it. Think beyond previously held notions |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1342 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 12:12 am: |      |
Does she have any kind of disease? Does she scream whenever she makes a decision relating to making a purchase? Would it be appropriate to call her screaming a tic? Does she have any physical tics? Should I read a Wikipedia article about neurology? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 62 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 12:31 am: |      |
Does she have any kind of disease? what is your definition of disease? Does she scream whenever she makes a decision relating to making a purchase? no Her screaming and actions are not tics Should I read a Wikipedia article about neurology? yes ;), but you'll likely have to explore beyond wikipedia to get the exact answer without a luck, or numerous, guessing |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1346 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 12:36 am: |      |
Are any of the following relevant? (courtesy: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) * behavioral/cognitive syndromes * headache disorders such as migraine, cluster headache and tension headache * epilepsy * traumatic brain injury * neurodegenerative disorders, including Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, Huntington's disease, and Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (Lou Gehrig's disease). * cerebrovascular disease, such as transient ischemic attack and stroke. * sleep disorders * cerebral palsy * infections of the brain (encephalitis), brain meninges (meningitis), spinal cord (myelitis) * infections of the peripheral nervous system * neoplasms – tumors of the brain and its meninges (brain tumors), spinal cord tumors, tumors of the peripheral nerves (neuroma) * movement disorders such as Parkinson's disease, Huntington's disease, hemiballismus, tic disorder, and Gilles de la Tourette syndrome * demyelinating diseases of the central nervous system, such as multiple sclerosis, and of the peripheral nervous system, such as Guillain-Barré syndrome and chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (CIDP) * spinal cord disorders – tumors, infections, trauma, malformations (e.g., myelocele, meningomyelocele, tethered cord) * disorders of peripheral nerves, muscle (myopathy) and neuromuscular junctions * exciting injuries to the brain, spinal cord and peripheral nerves * altered mental higher status, encephalopathy, stupor and coma * speech and language disorders * functional symptoms, having no apparent physiological cause |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1347 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 12:39 am: |      |
Or perhaps any of these? (c:WP) Examples of communication disorders: * autism -- a developmental defect that affects understanding of emotional communication * aphasia -- loss of the ability to produce or comprehend language * Learning disability - Both speaking and listening components of the definition * Dysnomia - Deficit involving word retrieval * Asperger Syndrome - Areas of social and pragmatic language * Semantic Pragmatic Disorder - Challenges with the semantic and pragmatic aspects of language * blindness -- a defect of the eye or visual system * deafness -- a defect of the ear or auditory system * dyslexia -- a defect of the systems used in reading * dyscalculia -- a defect of the systems used in communicating numbers * expressive language disorder -- affects speaking and understanding where there is no delay in non-verbal intelligence. * mixed receptive-expressive language disorder -- affects speaking, understanding, reading and writing where there is no delay in non-verbal intelligence. * speech disorders such as o cluttering, a speech organization disorder o stuttering o oesophageal voice o speech sound disorder o specific language impairment o dysarthria |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 64 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 12:56 am: |      |
Yes to the first post, No to the second |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1354 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 1:35 am: |      |
Mad cow disease? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 66 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 1:38 am: |      |
Mad cow disease? No |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1355 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 1:40 am: |      |
Is the reason why it is not a tic because it... Is voluntary? Is rhythmic? Only happens once? Some other reason? Multiple reasons? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 67 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 1:45 am: |      |
Some other reason? some other reason Would you like a hint? |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1358 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 1:48 am: |      |
I think so. |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 68 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 2:12 am: |      |
Read the wikipedia article on tics, than look over the post that I told you had a relevent condition Google the right terms and you can have your answer without clicking any links |
Erinye (Erinye)
New member Username: Erinye
Post Number: 49 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 5:47 pm: |      |
Wait, so, let me confirm. Her screaming and actions are not tics, but tics are in some way involved? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 71 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 6:40 pm: |      |
They are not tics, but learning about tics can help you find out what they were. |
Vagary (Vagary)
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Post Number: 153 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 7:36 pm: |      |
Epilepsy relevant? |
Obvious (Obvious)
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Post Number: 77 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 8:41 pm: |      |
Epilepsy relevant? yes ***SPOILER**** The woman screamed and then began loading the eggs into her shopping cart because she had a complex partial seizure. Though her actions appeared purposeful on the outside, she was not in control of either the action of screaming or loading the eggs into her shopping cart This puzzle is actually based on a true story. In this true version, the woman "woke" from a seizure, to discover she had been rearranging the egg cartons on the shelves in the grocery store and had put 10 cartons in her shopping cart. And she had a very angry manager standing next to her that wanted to know why she was messing around with his eggs. |
Vagary (Vagary)
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Post Number: 154 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 2:34 pm: |      |
Haha, nice. Good puzzle |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1370 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 3:43 pm: |      |
I don't think I have ever witnessed anything like that. Quite interesting, and a nice puzzle. |