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The doctor told her she was going to be OK, and that they could save her boyfriend too. She cried. Why?
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Did she attempt to kill her boyfriend?
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Because she was happy?
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Is it because her "boyfriend" was actually her great-grandfather?
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Did she attempt to kill her boyfriend? No.

Because she was happy? No.

Is it because her "boyfriend" was actually her great-grandfather? No.
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Did they both have the same problem?

Health problem? Physical problem? transplant? Did she attack her boyfriend unaware of what she was doing?
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Did they both have the same problem? Yes.

Health problem? This one. Physical problem? It was also one of these. transplant? But not this. Did she attack her boyfriend unaware of what she was doing? No.
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Did she want to be OK? Did she want them to save her boyfriend too?

"Her"1 = H? A? F?
"She" = "Her"1?
"Doctor" = Medical physician?
"They" = Medical professionals?
"Her"1 = "Her"2?
"She cried" = She shed tears? Out of sadness?
"Her boyfriend" = "She"'s male partner in a romantic relationship?
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OK meaning okay? similar to alright?
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I will not be satisfied until I check the meaning of every word in the puzzle statement!
"And" = a conjunction used to join words, phrases, AND clauses?
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"Her"1 = H? A? F? Yes to all.
"She" = "Her"1? Yes.
"Doctor" = Medical physician? Yes.
"They" = Medical professionals? Yes.
"Her"1 = "Her"2? Yes.
"She cried" = She shed tears? Yes. Out of sadness? Yes.
"Her boyfriend" = "She"'s male partner in a romantic relationship? Yes.

OK meaning okay? similar to alright? Yes.

"And" = a conjunction used to join words, phrases, AND clauses? Yes.
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Did one transmit a disease to the other? sexually? through saliva?

Did she accidentally poison the both while making dinner? did he?

Is this based on an event in your own life?

Did they both have the same health problem?
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Did one transmit a disease to the other? sexually? This one. through saliva?

Did she accidentally poison the both while making dinner? did he? Neither.

Is this based on an event in your own life? No.

Did they both have the same health problem? Yes.
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Did she transmit the disease to him?

Was she aware she had it prior to this?

Did the one who transmitted to the other originally contact it because they cheated?

bacteria? Fungus? Virus? parasite? protozoal?
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Did she transmit the disease to him? No.

Was she aware she had it prior to this? No.

Did the one who transmitted to the other originally contact it because they cheated? No.

bacteria? Fungus? Virus? parasite? This... protozoal? ...and this.
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Did he transmit the disease to her?
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scabies?

lice?

trichomoniasis?

cancer?

Did she lose a baby from this same disease?
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Did he transmit the disease to her? Yes.

scabies?

lice?

trichomoniasis?

cancer? None of these.

Did she lose a baby from this same disease? No.
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Are there any other persons relevant to the puzzle? Did "she" (let's give her a completely random name, hopefully that nobody on this forum has: Felicia) cry in response to what the doctor (again, let's use a completely random name: Dr Pepper [without a period after the Dr!]) said? If Dr Pepper had said, "You're going to die, and your little dog, too!", would Felicia still have cried?
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Are there any other persons relevant to the puzzle? Yes.

Did "she" (let's give her a completely random name, hopefully that nobody on this forum has: Felicia) cry in response to what the doctor (again, let's use a completely random name: Dr Pepper [without a period after the Dr!]) said? Yope.

If Dr Pepper had said, "You're going to die, and your little dog, too!", would Felicia still have cried? Possibly.
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Is there any death, destruction, famine, war, drought, pestilence, or unspeakable crime relevant to this puzzle? Is there one more person relevant to this puzzle? Is there more than one more person relevant to this puzzle?

Are the following elements of the setting of this puzzle relevant:

Time of day?
Day of week?
Time of year?
Year?
The current state of the world?
Geographic location?
Type of location?
Inside/Outside?
Temperature?
Wind speed/direction?
Holidays?

Basics:

Is this puzzle...

Based on a true story?
Fictional?
Plausible?
Theoretically possible, though unlikely?
Impossible/Sci-Fi-esque?
Is the idea derived from a work of literature/movie/TV show?
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Is there any death, destruction, famine, war, drought, pestilence, or unspeakable crime relevant to this puzzle? No. Is there one more person relevant to this puzzle? Yes. Is there more than one more person relevant to this puzzle? No.

Are the following elements of the setting of this puzzle relevant:

Time of day?
Day of week?
Time of year?
Year?
The current state of the world?
Geographic location?
Type of location?
Inside/Outside?
Temperature?
Wind speed/direction?
Holidays?
None of these.

Basics:

Is this puzzle...

Based on a true story? No.
Fictional? Yes.
Plausible?
Theoretically possible, though unlikely? Probably this one.
Impossible/Sci-Fi-esque?
Is the idea derived from a work of literature/movie/TV show? Yes.
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Is the other relevant person non-human? Non-adult? Non-male? Did any relevant person suffer "great bodily harm", "permanent disability", or "permanent disfigurement"?
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is the tv show house? Some other medical tv show?

Was the third party ever involved in a relationship with the girl? her boyfriend? Currently involved with the girl? her boyfriend?

Did the the unknown third party die? Was he/she expected to die? was the third party H A M?
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Is the other relevant person non-human? Non-adult? Non-male? No to all. Did any relevant person suffer "great bodily harm", Possibly, but not really relevant. "permanent disability", or "permanent disfigurement"? Neither of these.

is the tv show house? This one. I'd like to take this moment to remind everyone that googling and other Internet research is not allowed on my puzzles, although this is probably close to the end anyway. Some other medical tv show?

Was the third party ever involved in a relationship with the girl? Yes. her boyfriend? No. Currently involved with the girl? Yes. her boyfriend? No.

Did the the unknown third party die? No. Was he/she expected to die? No. was the third party H A M? Yes to all.
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Did she transmit the disease to the third party, lets call him "Bob?" sexually?

Was she in a sexual relationship with Bob? Did she want to be? Did she lover her boyfriend? Was she afraid of her boyfriend?

Was she upset because she wanted her bf to die so she could be with Bob exclusively?

Did she want her bf to be okay? Did she want herself to be okay? Did she want Bob to be okay?

Should we identify what the disease was?
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Did she transmit the disease to the third party, lets call him "Bob?" sexually? Possibly, but not relevant.

Was she in a sexual relationship with Bob? Yes. Did she want to be? Yes. Did she lover her boyfriend? Yes. Was she afraid of her boyfriend? No.

Was she upset because she wanted her bf to die so she could be with Bob exclusively? No.

Did she want her bf to be okay? Yes. Did she want herself to be okay? Yes. Did she want Bob to be okay? Yes.

Should we identify what the disease was? That would probably not be a very effective line of questioning.
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Should we try to determine who the other relevant party is? Is it YOU!?
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incest relevant?

religion relevant?

is the third party alive?
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Should we try to determine who the other relevant party is? Yes. Is it YOU!? No.

incest relevant? That's the first time I've seen that one asked. Nonetheless, no.

religion relevant? No.

is the third party alive? Yes.
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Is the third party famous? locally? state? nationally? internationally?

Politics relevant?

Camp counselor? school teacher? something similar?
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Is the third party famous? Irrelevant. locally? state? nationally? internationally?

Politics relevant? No.

Camp counselor? school teacher? something similar? No, and probably irrelevant as well.
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Is the third party Bob Dole? Is there some type of relationship between Bob Dole and Bob?... or Bob Dole and Dr Pepper? Or Bob Dole and Felicia? Does Bob personally know Bob? Dr Pepper? Felicia?
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Is the third party Bob Dole? No, Bob Dole isn't third-party, he's a Republican. More seriously, no. Is there some type of relationship between Bob Dole and Bob?Not a relevant one.
... or Bob Dole and Dr Pepper?Likewise. Or Bob Dole and Felicia? And the same.
Does Bob personally know Bob? Bob the third party does not know Bob Dole, no. Dr Pepper? Bob the third party does know Dr Pepper. Felicia? Yes.
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Was the third party the woman's husband?
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Is Bob Dr Pepper? Related to him? coworker? friend?
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Was the third party the woman's husband? Yes!

Is Bob Dr Pepper? Related to him? coworker? friend? None of these.
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did the woman's husband know she had a boyfriend?

Had her husband disappeared for a period of time and they thought he was dead/forever missing/captured?

Was the woman cheating on her husband and thats how she got the disease? and now she has to explain why they both have it?
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did the woman's husband know she had a boyfriend? No.

Had her husband disappeared for a period of time and they thought he was dead/forever missing/captured? No.

Was the woman cheating on her husband and thats how she got the disease? Yes. and now she has to explain why they both have it? But no.
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because now she has to explain to her boyfriend that she has a husband?

Because House, or someone else in the ER, let her bf, or her husband, know that she had two men in her life? And maybe they got into a fight and her husband attacked bf?
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because now she has to explain to her boyfriend that she has a husband? No.

Because House, or someone else in the ER, let her bf, or her husband, know that she had two men in her life? Noish. And maybe they got into a fight and her husband attacked bf? No.
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Did all three parties really have an STD?

Did the woman's bf know she had a husband? Did he react badly to finding that out?

Did the woman want to continue on with her deception?
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Did all three parties really have an STD? No, but...

Did the woman's bf know she had a husband? Yes. Did he react badly to finding that out? So no.

Did the woman want to continue on with her deception? Yes, for SVVs of "want," I would think. Or possibly "continue on."
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was this a ploy by house and the womans husband to determine if she was having sex with someone else?
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was this a ploy by house and the womans husband to determine if she was having sex with someone else? That does sound like something House would do. Nonetheless, no.
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I suppose we call Felicia's boyfriend "Daniel". Was Daniel a sperm donor? Is somebody actually related to somebody but they don't know it? Is the nurse in on it? Taxation relevant? Will Bob, Daniel, and Felicia get along well after this? Will there be a paternity test? Jerry Springer?
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I suppose we call Felicia's boyfriend "Daniel". Was Daniel a sperm donor? Is somebody actually related to somebody but they don't know it? Is the nurse in on it? Taxation relevant? Will Bob, Daniel, and Felicia get along well after this? Will there be a paternity test? Jerry Springer?

No to all. Especially the first statement. ;-)
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Okay, so lets call Felicia's boyfriend, Shawn then.

Did Shawn actually have a Sexually transmitted disease? Did Felicia? Did Bob?
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Okay, so lets call Felicia's boyfriend, Shawn then. I approve of this.

Did Shawn actually have a Sexually transmitted disease? Yes. Did Felicia? Yes. Did Bob? No.
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Was Felicia trying to give the disease to Bob? and upset because she hadn't succeeded?
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Was Felicia trying to give the disease to Bob? No. and upset because she hadn't succeeded? So no.
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Aw, good idea for a puzzle. Unfortunately, I've seen every episode of House.
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Was Felicia aware that she was sick prior to this conversation? that her husband was? that her bf was?

Was she crying because this was the first she found out that she was infected too?
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Was she crying because her boyfriends ex-wife/fiancee/gf had contracted the same STD after he swore that he had ended all contact with his ex and was her exclusive sexual partner?
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was she crying because her husband now knows she has a boyfriend? and he isn't happy about that?
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Was Felicia aware that she was sick prior to this conversation? Yes. that her husband was? FA. that her bf was? No.

Was she crying because this was the first she found out that she was infected too? No.

Was she crying because her boyfriends ex-wife/fiancee/gf had contracted the same STD after he swore that he had ended all contact with his ex and was her exclusive sexual partner? No.

was she crying because her husband now knows she has a boyfriend? Yes. and he isn't happy about that? Yes.
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Was her husband the doctor?
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was her husband present for his conversation? was her boyfriend? was one who wasn't present within hearing distance?

Is her husband leaving her? Is her boyfriend leaving her?
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Was her husband the doctor? No.

was her husband present for his conversation? No. was her boyfriend? No. was one who wasn't present within hearing distance? No.

Is her husband leaving her? Yes. Is her boyfriend leaving her? Quite possibly, but not very relevant.
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She's not crying out of relief

She's not crying because her husband is leaving her.

She's not crying because her boyfriend is leaving her.

She's not crying because its been found out that she cheated.

She's not crying because this will permanently disable her

She was not crying because she had just found out that she, Bob, or Shawn or was sick.

She's not crying because she wished death upon herself, Bob, or Shawn

She is crying because she is sad.


...Correct?
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Did Bob wish that she would die?

Did Shawn wish that Bob would die?
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Did Bob wish that Shawn would die?

Did Shawn wish that Felicia would die?
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She's not crying out of relief

She's not crying because her husband is leaving her. False.

She's not crying because her boyfriend is leaving her.

She's not crying because its been found out that she cheated. False.

She's not crying because this will permanently disable her

She was not crying because she had just found out that she, Bob, or Shawn or was sick. Slight falsehood here...

She's not crying because she wished death upon herself, Bob, or Shawn

She is crying because she is sad.


...Correct? Other than those marked "false," yes.
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She's crying because her husband has found out she has cheated and is leaving her because of that?

Is she upset because of what her husband said to her about cheating? did in response to it?

because Doctor Peppa made a mean face at her?
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She's crying because her husband has found out she has cheated and is leaving her because of that?Yes.

Is she upset because of what her husband said to her about cheating? did in response to it? This one, see above.

because Doctor Peppa made a mean face at her? No.
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Did her husband pull out her iv?

try to poison her?

otherwise try to harm her?

threaten to harm her?
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Did her husband pull out her iv?

try to poison her?

otherwise try to harm her?

threaten to harm her? None of these.
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To clarify, the only relevant thing her husband did was to leave her.
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Is she upset about something else that has nothing to do with her husband leaving her? Nothing at all to do with husbands thoughts? or actions? Nothing to do with her boyfriends thoughts? or actions?

nothing to do with the cute orderly she was wishing to hit on next thoughts? or actions?
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Haha, I just saw this episode a week ago. Keep it up, you guys!
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Is she upset about something else that has nothing to do with her husband leaving her? No. Nothing at all to do with husbands thoughts? or actions? Not other than the ones already mentioned. Nothing to do with her boyfriends thoughts? Not these. or actions?

nothing to do with the cute orderly she was wishing to hit on next thoughts? or actions? Not these either.

Haha, I just saw this episode a week ago. It's one of my favorite ones, though that may not mean much because I rarely watch. Keep it up, you guys!
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something that was said?
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Have we determined all that is relevant about why she cried? If so, can you give me a hint as to how I should continue solving this one?
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something that was said? You already know everything relevant that was said.

Recent questions seem to be going around in circles, so I'll give a hint. You know that Felicia cried because her husband found out she cheated and left her. How did she know he found out?
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Did the doctor say it in front of the husband? Call and leave a voicemail with the results?
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Did the doctor say it in front of the husband? Yesish. Call and leave a voicemail with the results? No.
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Did she know her husband found out because this was an STD that you couldn't get from a toilet seat or casual contact?

and while she was "sick" and her husband had been tested for it and found not to have it, so it was known she had to have gotten it from someone?

We established that she knew her husband had been disease free right?
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Did she know her husband found out because this was an STD that you couldn't get from a toilet seat or casual contact? No.

and while she was "sick" and her husband had been tested for it and found not to have it, so it was known she had to have gotten it from someone? Yes, but there's more to it.

We established that she knew her husband had been disease free right? I don't know if we did, but yes, this is true.
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Slight correction:

Did she know her husband found out because this was an STD that you couldn't get from a toilet seat or casual contact? It wasn't, but that's not how she knew.
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Had she been having sex with her husband recently? in the past few months? years? Had he been on leave somewhere for a long time?

She found out her husband knew for more than just the fact that the doctor told her that her boyfriend would be okay? you are asking how the doctor knew she had a boyfriend? Is is a fast acting nearly always fatal disease?
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Had she been having sex with her husband recently? in the past few months? I believe so, yes. years? Had he been on leave somewhere for a long time? No.

She found out her husband knew for more than just the fact that the doctor told her that her boyfriend would be okay? Yes. you are asking how the doctor knew she had a boyfriend? Yes. Is is a fast acting No... nearly always fatal disease? But yes.
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is how far the disease had progressed in her prior to her being brought to the hospital relevant? Does that show the time period of her being infected? The time period of her boyfriend contracting the disease? Shows that her boyfriend must still be alive and she can save him if she admits to who he is?

Is the treatment relevant?
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is how far the disease had progressed in her prior to her being brought to the hospital relevant? Yes. Does that show the time period of her being infected? Yes, but it is not very relevant. The time period of her boyfriend contracting the disease? Not relevant. Shows that her boyfriend must still be alive Not necessarily, but as it turns out yes. and she can save him if she admits to who he is? Yes.

Is the treatment relevant? Yes.
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Was some kind of transplant required? Or blood transfusion?
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Was some kind of transplant required? Or blood transfusion? No to both.
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Was her husband involved in the treatment somehow? Was her boyfriend?
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Was her husband involved in the treatment somehow? Yesish. Was her boyfriend? No.
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Is the reason she was brought the hospital in the first place relevant to how the doctor knew she had a boyfriend? Like her bf worked at her office, office caught on fire, and she and a male co-worker both tested postive for a rare STD that her husband didn't have? something similar?

Is her husbands involvement in the treatment relevant? Did he decide to stop his offer of a transplant when he found she was cheating?
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Is the reason she was brought the hospital in the first place relevant to how the doctor knew she had a boyfriend? No. Like her bf worked at her office, office caught on fire, and she and a male co-worker both tested postive for a rare STD that her husband didn't have? something similar? Nothing like that.

Is her husbands involvement in the treatment relevant? Yes, but thinking of it now, "yope" was probably a better answer to that question than "yesish." Did he decide to stop his offer of a transplant when he found she was cheating? No.
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Does her husband need to be involved to cure her boyfriend?
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Does her husband need to be involved to cure her boyfriend? No.
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Did her husband attempt to kill her because she was busy playing games instead of talking to her?

Did her husband do anything that would endanger her life? immediately? in the long run? financially? social status relevant?
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Was she making her own treatment decisions? for the whole time? Did her husband disagree with the treatment? with her decisions on the treatment?
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Did her husband attempt to kill her because she was busy playing games instead of talking to her? No.

Did her husband do anything that would endanger her life? Yope. immediately? This one. in the long run? financially? social status relevant? None of these.

Was she making her own treatment decisions? No. for the whole time? Did her husband disagree with the treatment? No. with her decisions on the treatment?
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Just to know, is it HIV/AIDS?
That relevant at all?
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Just to know, is it HIV/AIDS?
That relevant at all? No.
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Did her husband say he would do anything that would endanger her life? attempt to hire a hitman? wish on a shining star? rub a magic lamp and wish for her death? curse her? buy a voodoo doll?

At this point was she going to be able to continue making her own treatment decisions? Did her husband have power of attorney? Did her husband say he'd let her die if she slipped into coma and she didn't have time to change who could make her treatment decisions?

Are her husbands actions relevant to her crying? words? papers he signs? feelings?

Are we trying to find out more than how Felicia found out her husband knew? And that this was more than the fact that the doctor stood there and said "we can save you boyfriend too."

Was she crying because this proved her husband had been faithful to her all along and she hadn't thought that was the case?
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Did her husband say he would do anything that would endanger her life? Yope, explore. And beware FA. attempt to hire a hitman? wish on a shining star? rub a magic lamp and wish for her death? curse her? buy a voodoo doll? Not one of these.

At this point was she going to be able to continue making her own treatment decisions? At which point? Did her husband have power of attorney? Yes. Did her husband say he'd let her die if she slipped into coma and she didn't have time to change who could make her treatment decisions? No.

Are her husbands actions relevant to her crying? Yes. words? No. papers he signs? Yope. feelings? Yes.

Are we trying to find out more than how Felicia found out her husband knew? No, but... And that this was more than the fact that the doctor stood there and said "we can save you boyfriend too." ...this is correct. There's more behind it.

Was she crying because this proved her husband had been faithful to her all along and she hadn't thought that was the case? No.
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Did her husband make a decision about her treatment that could have killed her? Before or after she cried? Did her husband regret the treatment decisions he had made?

Was she going to be able to continue making her own treatment decisions after she cried? until she was better?

Is who her boyfriend was relevant, or only that she had one?
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Did her husband make a decision about her treatment that could have killed her? Yes. Before or after she cried? Before. Did her husband regret the treatment decisions he had made? No.

Was she going to be able to continue making her own treatment decisions after she cried? Yes. until she was better? Yes.

Is who her boyfriend was relevant, or only that she had one? Only that she had one.
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Was her husband upset about the decision he made? the outcome of the decision?
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Was her husband upset about the decision he made? No. the outcome of the decision? Yope.
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Albatrosses?
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Aah being a House fan I know this one. Nice idea for a puzzle!
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Albatrosses? What about them?
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Did the doctor serve the women albatross stew right before telling her that her boyfriend could be saved? and she was crying because this meant that she had not been eating the human she had previously thought she'd been eating, upon tasting the stew, right before the doctor told her that her bf could be saved?


so her husband did not exactly endanger her life? Did he only want or wish to endanger her life? take steps to endanger it? hope that her treatment would stop working? was he upset about her recovery time? that she would recover? that her boyfriend would recover? that his decision to treat her would also save the boyfriend?
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Did the doctor serve the women albatross stew right before telling her that her boyfriend could be saved? and she was crying because this meant that she had not been eating the human she had previously thought she'd been eating, upon tasting the stew, right before the doctor told her that her bf could be saved? No to the above.


so her husband did not exactly endanger her life? Yope. Technically he did, but there's more to it. Did he only want or wish to endanger her life? Yope. take steps to endanger it? Yope. hope that her treatment would stop working? Yes. was he upset about her recovery time? Noish. that she would recover? Noish. that her boyfriend would recover? No. that his decision to treat her would also save the boyfriend? No.

There are a lot of yopes here -- that means explore. You're pretty close.
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Did he make her think her life was in danger? Thus causing her to somehow reveal her infidelity?
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Did he make her think her life was in danger? No. Thus causing her to somehow reveal her infidelity? So no.
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Did her husband want her to die because she cheated on him, but not want her to die because he still loved her? And tell her the first part? the second part? Both?
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Did her husband want her to die because she cheated on him Not this, but not want her to die because he still loved her? But this is true. And tell her the first part? the second part? Both? Neither.
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Did he tell anyone that he not want her to die? Did he want the person she cheated on him with to die? Did he hold some relavant knowledge that we haven't touched upon yet?
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Did he tell anyone that he not want her to die? Yes. Did he want the person she cheated on him with to die? No. Did he hold some relavant knowledge that we haven't touched upon yet? Yes.
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Did he tell anyone that he wanted her to die?
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Did he tell anyone that he wanted her to die? Yes.
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The doctor? the boyfriend? a hitman?
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The doctor? This one. the boyfriend? a hitman?
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the doctor=house?
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the doctor=house? No.
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the doctor treating his wife? the one providing him with care/treatment forms for his wife?
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Did his wife overhear this? was she upset because she had been unfaithful?

Does she 1 = she 2?
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the doctor treating his wife? This one. the one providing him with care/treatment forms for his wife?

Did his wife overhear this? No. was she upset because she had been unfaithful? When she was crying as referred to in the puzzle statement? Yesish.

Does she 1 = she 2? Yes.
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She is crying because her husband is leaving her, her boyfriend is sick, and she cheated on him. Plus something else.

Was however she was treated the reason she knew her husband was aware she had been unfaithful? Had her husband given her a clue that she was unfaithful - a note, left his wedding ring, etc?
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She is crying because her husband is leaving her This one , her boyfriend is sick, and she cheated on him And this one. . Plus something else.

Was however she was treated the reason she knew her husband was aware she had been unfaithful?Yesish. Had her husband given her a clue that she was unfaithful - a note, left his wedding ring, etc? No.
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Was this a treatment that would only treat STDs? And her husband agreeing to it showed that he knew she had been unfaithful?

Are the doctors involved in the reason she is crying? Their words? decisions? other family members? is anyone else relevant?
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Is her husband gay? Is her boyfriend? Are her husband and boyfriend gay lovers?
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Was this a treatment that would only treat STDs? No, but... And her husband agreeing to it showed that he knew she had been unfaithful? Noish.

Are the doctors involved in the reason she is crying? Yes. Their words? Yes. decisions? Yes. other family members? No. is anyone else relevant? No.

Is her husband gay? Is her boyfriend? Are her husband and boyfriend gay lovers? No to all.
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Had her affair ended? And she wanted to stay with her husband? But now he was leaving her forever?
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Did her husband leaving her affect her ability to receive treatment?

Even though the doctors say she is going to be OK, does she think she is not going to be OK?

Is her sadness related to regret? Fear for her well being? Fear for the well being of others? Fear of loss of a relationship? Embarrassment?

Had she previously accused her husband of cheating?

Did the husband know of the boyfriend's condition prior the disclosure by the doctors?

Did the fact that the doctors mentioned her boy friend let her know that the cat was out of the bag?

Were her tears due to her realization that her deception had been discovered?

Was her husband leaving her only because of this particular infidelity? Had the affair not been discovered, would he still be leaving her?
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Had her affair ended? Irrelevant. And she wanted to stay with her husband? Yes. But now he was leaving her forever? Yes.

Did her husband leaving her affect her ability to receive treatment? No.

Even though the doctors say she is going to be OK, does she think she is not going to be OK? No, she believes them.

Is her sadness related to regret? This one Fear for her well being? Fear for the well being of others? Fear of loss of a relationship? Due to this one. Embarrassment?

Had she previously accused her husband of cheating? No.

Did the husband know of the boyfriend's condition prior the disclosure by the doctors? No.

Did the fact that the doctors mentioned her boy friend let her know that the cat was out of the bag? Yes.

Were her tears due to her realization that her deception had been discovered? Yes.

Was her husband leaving her only because of this particular infidelity? Yes. Had the affair not been discovered, would he still be leaving her? No.
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Can you verify the accuracy of the following:

Recap -- woman was cheating on her husband and caught an STD from her BF. She is crying because her infidelity has been exposed. The doctors refer to her BF which indicates to her that they know who he is. If they know, then the husband knows. It is the reference by the doctor to her BF (instead of her husband?) that first indicates to her that she has been found out.

Did the doctors know she had a husband and that she was cheating?

Is it the doctors' statement about the BF that clue in the husband about her infidelity?

What do we need to explore further to solve the puzzle:
- Relationship between husband and doctors
- Relationship between BF and doctors
- BF and husband
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Can you verify the accuracy of the following:

Recap -- woman was cheating on her husband and caught an STD from her BF. She is crying because her infidelity has been exposed. The doctors refer to her BF which indicates to her that they know who he is. If they know, then the husband knows. It is the reference by the doctor to her BF (instead of her husband?) that first indicates to her that she has been found out. Looks good to me.

Did the doctors know she had a husband and that she was cheating? Yes.

Is it the doctors' statement about the BF that clue in the husband about her infidelity? No.

What do we need to explore further to solve the puzzle:
- Relationship between husband and doctors This one.
- Relationship between BF and doctors
- BF and husband
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Did the husband work at the hospital?
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Did the husband work at the hospital? No.
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Did the husband know the doctors?
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Did the husband know the doctors? Not before his wife got sick.
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Did the doctors originally assume that because she had an STD, her husband was affected by it? The source of it?

In the course of treating the wife, did the doctors disclose to the husband that she had an STD?

Were the docs aware all along that she was cheating on her husband? Did they know the husband did not know?

Was the disclosure to the husband accidental? Was it on purpose?

Did the docs dissapprove of her having an affair? Did they disclose to the husband because they were offended?

Is the particular STD relevant?
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Was her illness long term? Had she been seeing the doctor for more than a month?
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Did the doctors originally assume that because she had an STD, her husband was affected by it? No. The source of it? No.

In the course of treating the wife, did the doctors disclose to the husband that she had an STD? Yope.

Were the docs aware all along that she was cheating on her husband? No. Did they know the husband did not know? So no.

Was the disclosure to the husband accidental? No. Was it on purpose? Yope.

Did the docs dissapprove of her having an affair? Possibly. Did they disclose to the husband because they were offended? No.

Is the particular STD relevant? Yes, but...

Was her illness long term? Define "long term." Had she been seeing the doctor for more than a month? No.
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Was her illness curable or merely treatable?
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WWas her illness curable This one or merely treatable?
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So, it was when the doctors mentioned her Bf that she first knew that her husband must also know?
Is there not doctor-patient confidentiality? (I know that doesn't always work in House lol)
But there is some particular relationship between the doctors and the husband that means he would know this information?
And she must have known about this relationship?

This was more just to get things straight in my head, sorry. I actually watch House and can't work out if I've seen this one, but don't worry, even if I have I don't know the answer.
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So, it was when the doctors mentioned her Bf that she first knew that her husband must also know? Yes.

Is there not doctor-patient confidentiality? (I know that doesn't always work in House lol) There is, but...

But there is some particular relationship between the doctors and the husband that means he would know this information? Yes, for svv of "relationship."

And she must have known about this relationship? Yes.
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So at the time she cried, she has already undergone treatment? That her husband agreed to? Will she need to have further treatment? Is her boyfriend already having treatment?
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So at the time she cried, she has already undergone treatment? Yes. That her husband agreed to? Yes. Will she need to have further treatment? No. Is her boyfriend already having treatment? No.
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Did the doctors actually tell the husband about the boyfriend?
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Did the husband know the doctors socially? for instance as a golf partner?
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Did the doctors actually tell the husband about the boyfriend? No.

Did the husband know the doctors socially? No. for instance as a golf partner? So no.
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Did the doctors actually tell the husband about the affair? the boyfriend?
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Did the doctors actually tell the husband about the affair? Yope. the boyfriend? No.
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Did the boyfriend get tested for the std?
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Did the boyfriend get tested for the std? No.
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Did the doctors tell the husband about the STD? Ergo, he figured out she must have a boyfriend?
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Is the treatment and irreversibility of it relevant? For example, might she have had a hysterectomy or sterilization?
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Did the doctors tell the husband about the STD? Yope. Explore this. Ergo, he figured out she must have a boyfriend? Yes, but it's not quite that simple.

Is the treatment and irreversibility of it relevant? The treatment is relevant, yes. I wouldn't say it's "irreversible." For example, might she have had a hysterectomy or sterilization? No.
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Is she also pregnant?
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Is she also pregnant? No.
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Did her husband suspect an affair before this incident?
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Did her husband suspect an affair before this incident? No.
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Is the treatment only relavent because it helps us identify the STD?

Or does it have some impact on the husband, wife or boyfriend?

Or is the necessity and performance of the treatment what caused the disclosure?

Is the treatment central to solving this puzzle, or more peripheral?
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Is the treatment only relavent because it helps us identify the STD? No.

Or does it have some impact on the husband, wife Thisish or boyfriend?

Or is the necessity and performance of the treatment what caused the disclosure? Yesish.

Is the treatment central to solving this puzzle, or more peripheral? This is difficult to answer.
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Do we need to know about occurances that happened prior to her diagnosis?

Do we need to know details about particular STD's and/or their treatments?

Jesus Christ, this is going nowhere -- this will call for even an uglier approach.

Can this entire story be described as one sequence of events?

Is this the sequence of events:
1. Her birth
2. She marries her husband
3. She has an affair and gets an STD from it
4. Symptoms present themselves
5. She seeks treatment
6. STD is diagnosed
7. Doctor becomes aware that she is having an affair
8. Doctor diagnoses boyfriend
9. She gets treatment
10. Doctor discloses affair to husband
11. Husband announces he is leaving
12. Doctor tells her she will be OK and they can save boyfriend
13. A goddam albatross flies through the ER
14. She cries.

Which of these events are incorrect?
Which of these is correct but out of order?

Once I get a correct sequence of events, I'm going to fill in the gaps.

Can this puzzle be solved in this manner, or am I likely to define a bunch of irrelevent crap?

Another question about the best approach to take: Which of the following aspects of the story should I focus on discovering:
Who, what, where, when, why, and how much
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Do we need to know about occurances that happened prior to her diagnosis?

Do we need to know details about particular STD's and/or their treatments? This disease is not usually considered as an STD, so that will probably lead you down the wrong path.

Jesus Christ, this is going nowhere -- this will call for even an uglier approach.

Can this entire story be described as one sequence of events? Yes.

Is this the sequence of events:
1. Her birth
2. She marries her husband
3. She has an affair and gets an STD from it
4. Symptoms present themselves
5. She seeks treatment
6. STD is diagnosed
7. Doctor becomes aware that she is having an affair
8. Doctor diagnoses boyfriend
9. She gets treatment
10. Doctor discloses affair to husband
11. Husband announces he is leaving
12. Doctor tells her she will be OK and they can save boyfriend
13. A goddam albatross flies through the ER
14. She cries.

Which of these events are incorrect? 13
Which of these is correct but out of order? 8. Also, 10 is difficult to answer here, as are 6 and 7.

Once I get a correct sequence of events, I'm going to fill in the gaps.

Can this puzzle be solved in this manner, or am I likely to define a bunch of irrelevent crap? I think this could help your approach.

Another question about the best approach to take: Which of the following aspects of the story should I focus on discovering:
Who, what, where, when, why, and how much You forgot how, and that one is useful. Other than that, "why" and "what" probably come first.
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Is it possible to contract the disease without sexul contact?
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Is it possible to contract the disease without sexul contact? Yes.
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Was the disease tranmitted from him to her? Her to him? Neither? Was it sexually transmitted?

Is the protocol for handling this disease such that an effort is made to determine how and from who it was transmitted, as with tuberculosis? Was it TB?
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Was the disease tranmitted from him to her? Her to him? Neither? It was from her boyfriend to her. Was it sexually transmitted? Yes.

Is the protocol for handling this disease such that an effort is made to determine how and from who it was transmitted, as with tuberculosis? No. Was it TB? So no.
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Was the boyfriend diagnosed first?

When she was diagnosed with the disease, was she specifically looking and testing for the disease?

Did she learn of her exposure to the disease because symptoms presented? Or because the boyfriend told her? Or because the doctor told her? Or because her husband told her?
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Was the boyfriend diagnosed first? No.

When she was diagnosed with the disease, was she specifically looking and testing for the disease? No.

Did she learn of her exposure to the disease because symptoms presented? Yesish. Or because the boyfriend told her? No. Or because the doctor told her? Yes. Or because her husband told her? No.
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She was infected by him, yet she was diagnosed first, correct? Is this important?

Here's my latest incorrect chronological sequence of events. I'm leaving the numbers the same for consistency of reference.

1. Her birth
2. She marries her husband
3. She has an affair and gets an STD from it
4. Symptoms present themselves
5. She seeks treatment
6. She is diagnosed as having STD
8. Doctor diagnoses boyfriend
7. Doctor puts 2 & 2 together (or 6 & 8) and becomes aware that she is having an affair
10. Doctor discloses affair to husband
9. She gets treatment
11. Husband announces he is leaving
12. Doctor tells her she will be OK and they can save boyfriend
13. A goddam albatross does NOT fly through the ER
14. She cries.

OK -- which of these events are irrelevent and can be struck? (except leave in 13, I like 13)
(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14)?


You had mentioned that 6, 7, and 10 are difficult to answer -- are they incorrect? (6, 7, 10)? Do they include False Assumptions? (6, 7, 10)?

Do any of the events happen simultaneously? If so, which ones? (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14)?

We have a yesish on whether she learned of her exposure because of the symptoms presented and a no as to whether she was specifically testing for the disease -- is this important to decypher?

Did she go to the doctor for other reasons, and in in the course of his examination of her, he diagnosed this STD? Do we need to know why she was there originally? When she originally went in not suspecting that she had an STD (is this assumption correct), was it at that time that the husband became involved, such that when the STD was diagnosed, she was unable to hide it from him?

Is the previous paragraph putting me more on track?

Of all of the questions I have just asked, which one or two are the most fruitful to pursue?

Pardon the brute-force meta-questions, but this is stretching on so long, I'm having a hard time keeping track of what has already been answered. My goal is to solve before we hit quadruple digits.
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She cried cause now her husband and family knew...(you know,.. about the boyfreind.)
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She was infected by him, yet she was diagnosed first, correct? Yes. Is this important? Yes.

Here's my latest incorrect chronological sequence of events. I'm leaving the numbers the same for consistency of reference.

1. Her birth
2. She marries her husband
3. She has an affair and gets an STD from it
4. Symptoms present themselves
5. She seeks treatment
6. She is diagnosed as having STD
8. Doctor diagnoses boyfriend This is not in the correct place.
7. Doctor puts 2 & 2 together (or 6 & 8) and becomes aware that she is having an affair
10. Doctor discloses affair to husband
9. She gets treatment This is not in the correct place.
11. Husband announces he is leaving
12. Doctor tells her she will be OK and they can save boyfriend
13. A goddam albatross does NOT fly through the ER
14. She cries.

OK -- which of these events are irrelevent and can be struck? (except leave in 13, I like 13)
(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14)? All are relevant.


You had mentioned that 6, 7, and 10 are difficult to answer -- are they incorrect? (6, 7, 10)? 6 is correct. The best way I can answer for 7 and 10 is that they take place in more than one step each. Do they include False Assumptions? (6, 7, 10)? Not really, other than as indicated in the previous answer.

Do any of the events happen simultaneously? If so, which ones? (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14)? 13 happens simultaneous with 11.

We have a yesish on whether she learned of her exposure because of the symptoms presented and a no as to whether she was specifically testing for the disease -- is this important to decypher? Yes.

Did she go to the doctor for other reasons, and in in the course of his examination of her, he diagnosed this STD? No. Do we need to know why she was there originally? Because of symptoms, which turned out to be caused by this disease. When she originally went in not suspecting that she had an STD (is this assumption correct) Yes., was it at that time that the husband became involved, such that when the STD was diagnosed, she was unable to hide it from him? Yes.

Is the previous paragraph putting me more on track? <b>

Of all of the questions I have just asked, which one or two are the most fruitful to pursue? I'd say go back and look at the questions answered, and see which answers weren't really followed up on.

She cried cause now her husband and family knew...(you know,.. about the boyfreind.) Yes.
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Other than the fact that she was cheating on her husband, was there anything she didn't tell the doctors? Lied about? For example, did she lie about the boyfriend's (Shawn's) identity when he was first diagnosed? Or did Shawn already know he had the STD, and didn't tell her because he's scum? If there was some deception on her part, did this lack of correct information on the doctor's part directly lead to him informing the husband? Indirectly? Or did the doctor intentionally tell the husband once he knew? Did he drop in that part about her boyfriend being okay in order to let her know that he was aware that she had a boyfriend?
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Other than the fact that she was cheating on her husband, was there anything she didn't tell the doctors? No. Lied about? No. For example, did she lie about the boyfriend's (Shawn's) identity when he was first diagnosed? No. Or did Shawn already know he had the STD, and didn't tell her because he's scum? No. If there was some deception on her part, did this lack of correct information on the doctor's part directly lead to him informing the husband? So no to this. Indirectly? And this as well. Or did the doctor intentionally tell the husband once he knew? Yesish, but there's more to it. Did he drop in that part about her boyfriend being okay in order to let her know that he was aware that she had a boyfriend? Yes.
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Okay, so once she knew she had the STD, did she immediately bring Shawn in? Encourage Shawn to seek treatment, but preferably without revealing that his illness was in any way related to hers? Did she even tell Shawn that she was ill? Did he come in and get diagnosed independently around the same time?

Once she was diagnosed, was her illness immediately such that she had to stay in the hospital? Did she ever have to stay in the hospital? Did Shawn? Did Shawn come visit her? Were the doctors aware of Shawn in some capacity prior to his diagnosis?
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Okay, so once she knew she had the STD, did she immediately bring Shawn in? No. Encourage Shawn to seek treatment, but preferably without revealing that his illness was in any way related to hers? No. Did she even tell Shawn that she was ill? No. Did he come in and get diagnosed independently around the same time? No.

Once she was diagnosed, was her illness immediately such that she had to stay in the hospital? Yes. Did she ever have to stay in the hospital? Yes. Did Shawn? He probably would have in the near future. Did Shawn come visit her? No. Were the doctors aware of Shawn in some capacity prior to his diagnosis? No.
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Was the disclosure of the affair by the doctor to the husband accidental? Intentional?

Did the doctor disclose the affair directly? Or did he let slip certain information that enabled the husband to make the inference?

Prior to the disclosure, was the husband suspicious? Curious?

Prior to the disclosure, did the husband have a prior relationship with the doctor? Was the husband also having an affair? With the doctor? Is the doctor female?

Assuming I get my sequence of 14 events in the right order and expand 7 & 10 to the appropriate number of steps, are there additional distinct elements of the narrative to be added? Will these be logically encapsulated in 7 & 10? Or do they fall completely outside of 7 & 10?

How many steps need to be defined for 7 (1,2,3,3+)? How many steps need to be defined for 10 (1,2,3,3+)

As to the "why", do we need to discover the motivations of some of the characters? If so, who: She, Husband, Boyfriend, Doctor, others?

Do we need to know the STD or the symptoms?
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Is the doctor her husband?
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Was the disclosure of the affair by the doctor to the husband accidental? Intentional? This is closest.

Did the doctor disclose the affair directly? Or did he let slip certain information that enabled the husband to make the inference? Thisish.

Prior to the disclosure, was the husband suspicious? A bit of this. Curious? Not this.

Prior to the disclosure, did the husband have a prior relationship with the doctor? No. Was the husband also having an affair? No. With the doctor? No. Is the doctor female? No.

Assuming I get my sequence of 14 events in the right order and expand 7 & 10 to the appropriate number of steps, are there additional distinct elements of the narrative to be added? No. Will these be logically encapsulated in 7 & 10? Or do they fall completely outside of 7 & 10?

How many steps need to be defined for 7 (1,2,3,3+)? How many steps need to be defined for 10 (1,2,3,3+)I'd say two each.

As to the "why", do we need to discover the motivations of some of the characters? <b>Yes.</b.> If so, who: She Yes, Husband and yes. No to others., Boyfriend, Doctor, others?

Do we need to know the STD or the symptoms? I'd go after the symptoms. The STD, as stated previously, is not a standard STD.

Is the doctor her husband? No.
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I'm not familiar with the more esoteric STD's and their symptoms -- is this an STD that has become more prevalent recently? Herpes? Chlamydia? Hepatitis B? Syphillis? Gonorrhea? HPV? HIV / Aids? Genital Warts? Other?

Is the symptom physically visible? Painful? A discharge?

Incorrect sequence v3.0:
1. Her birth
2. She marries her husband
3. She has an affair and gets an STD from it
4. Symptoms present themselves
5. She seeks treatment
6. She is diagnosed as having STD
9. She gets treatment
7. Doctor puts 2 & 2 together (or 6 & 8) and becomes aware that she is having an affair
10. Doctor discloses affair to husband
11. Husband announces he is leaving
8. Doctor diagnoses boyfriend
12. Doctor tells her she will be OK and they can save boyfriend
13. A goddam albatross does NOT fly through the ER
14. She cries.

Is the order now correct?

To clarify 7 & 10, do they happen as a related sequence of events? Over the period a few minutes?

Did the doctor have discussions with the husband about his possibly contracting or transmitting the STD? If so, was this to inquire as to the possible source of the STD? Or to warn of the risk of contracting the disease from his wife?

Did the doctor's first discussion with the husband start before the doctor know about the affair? And during the discussion, it became apparent that there was an affair? Because the husband did not have the STD? And could not have been its source?

Had the wife disclosed the affair to the doctor? Or did he deduce it after diagnosing the STD?
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I'm not familiar with the more esoteric STD's and their symptoms -- is this an STD that has become more prevalent recently? No. Herpes? Chlamydia? Hepatitis B? Syphillis? Gonorrhea? HPV? HIV / Aids? Genital Warts? None of these. Other?

Is the symptom physically visible? Some of them are. Painful? Some of them are. A discharge? No.

Incorrect sequence v3.0:
1. Her birth
2. She marries her husband
3. She has an affair and gets an STD from it
4. Symptoms present themselves
5. She seeks treatment
6. She is diagnosed as having STD
9. She gets treatment
7. Doctor puts 2 & 2 together (or 6 & 8) and becomes aware that she is having an affair
10. Doctor discloses affair to husband
11. Husband announces he is leaving
8. Doctor diagnoses boyfriend
12. Doctor tells her she will be OK and they can save boyfriend
13. A goddam albatross does NOT fly through the ER
14. She cries.

Is the order now correct? No.

To clarify 7 & 10, do they happen as a related sequence of events? Yes. Over the period a few minutes? No.

Did the doctor have discussions with the husband about his possibly contracting or transmitting the STD? Yes. If so, was this to inquire as to the possible source of the STD? This one. Or to warn of the risk of contracting the disease from his wife?

Did the doctor's first discussion with the husband start before the doctor know about the affair? Yes. And during the discussion, it became apparent that there was an affair? Not immediately. Because the husband did not have the STD? Partly this. And could not have been its source? Yes.

Had the wife disclosed the affair to the doctor? No. Or did he deduce it after diagnosing the STD? Yes.
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Is it HPV/cervical cancer? Did the symptoms include... problems urinating? menstrual irregularities? bleeding? irregularities during or after sex? Swelling/inflammation? Hormonal irregularities? Vomiting? Fever? Aches? Sore throat? Weakness? Weight loss? itching/burning genitals? Odor? It was just delightful looking up STD symptoms on wikipedia, so I hope this helps.
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Is it HPV/cervical cancer? No. Did the symptoms include... problems urinating? menstrual irregularities? bleeding? irregularities during or after sex? Swelling/inflammation? This one. Hormonal irregularities? Vomiting? Fever? This one. Aches? This one. Sore throat? Weakness? This one. Weight loss? itching/burning genitals? Odor? No to the rest. It was just delightful looking up STD symptoms on wikipedia, so I hope this helps.
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is any thing related to body part/ blood transfer from her BF ?

Any abortion scenarios ?

Any changes to her body ? Looks ? weight ? hair ? face ?

Wife and husband seperated away for some time ? A year ? where she developed relations with BF ...
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Was the disease originally misdiagnosed? Or diagnosed correctly, but they didn't believe she had contracted it sexually? It seems like all the symptoms fall under the category of "flu-like symptoms," so did they originally think she had the flu? If the doctor didn't realize it was an STD, did this discovery prompt the discovery of the boyfriend's existence? Were she and her husband having sex before she contracted the disease? During the same time period she was having sex with her boyfriend? If not, was there a medical reason why not?
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is any thing related to body part/ blood transfer from her BF ? Yesish.

Any abortion scenarios ? No.

Any changes to her body ? Looks ? weight ? This one. hair ? face ? Probably also this.

Wife and husband seperated away for some time ? No. A year ? where she developed relations with BF ...

Was the disease originally misdiagnosed? Yes. Or diagnosed correctly, but they didn't believe she had contracted it sexually? No, but... It seems like all the symptoms fall under the category of "flu-like symptoms," so did they originally think she had the flu? Probably before she came into the hospital, yes. If the doctor didn't realize it was an STD, did this discovery prompt the discovery of the boyfriend's existence? Yes. Were she and her husband having sex before she contracted the disease? Yes. During the same time period she was having sex with her boyfriend? Yes. If not, was there a medical reason why not?
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Alright, so was the doctor the first to discover the disease's true identity, then the husband, then the girl? Doctor, girl, husband? Girl, doctor, husband? Girl, husband, doctor? Husband, doctor, girl? Husband, girl, doctor? Did any of them find out more or less simultaneously? I get that this was probably a slow process, but I'm just asking about the "aha" moment for each.

So was her husband infected? Could he have been infected, were it not for some kind of genetic luck on his part? Some action? Is this a disease that affects women more often? or severely? Relevant how her boyfriend got this disease? Did he contract it sexually from someone else? Presumably that someone else isn't directly relevant to the story, right?
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Did she enter the hospital:
Of her own free will?
Brought by boyfriend?
Brought by husband?
Brought by doctors?
Brought by someone else?
Some combination thereof?
Is this relavent?
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Did she enter the hospital:
Of her own free will?
Brought by boyfriend?
Brought by husband? This one.
Brought by doctors?
Brought by someone else?
Some combination thereof?
Is this relavent?
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Hey! What, my questions don't deserve answers anymore? :-(
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Was her condition upon being brought to the hospital relevent?
If so:
Was she feverish?
Nauseous?
Dizy?
Conscious?
Hallucinating?
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Hey! What, my questions don't deserve answers anymore? :-( My apologies.

Alright, so was the doctor the first to discover the disease's true identity, then the husband, then the girl? This order. Doctor, girl, husband? Girl, doctor, husband? Girl, husband, doctor? Husband, doctor, girl? Husband, girl, doctor? Did any of them find out more or less simultaneously? No. I get that this was probably a slow process, but I'm just asking about the "aha" moment for each.

So was her husband infected? No. Could he have been infected Possibly, were it not for some kind of genetic luck on his part? But not this. Some action? Possibly. Is this a disease that affects women more often? No. or severely? No. Relevant how her boyfriend got this disease? Not particularly. Did he contract it sexually from someone else? Most likely not. Presumably that someone else isn't directly relevant to the story, right? Right.

Was her condition upon being brought to the hospital relevent? Yes.
If so:
Was she feverish? Yes.
Nauseous?
Dizy?
Conscious? Yes.
Hallucinating? No, although this started later. No to rest.
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Incorrect sequence v3.1:
1. Her birth
2. She marries her husband
3. She has an affair and gets an STD from it
4. Symptoms present themselves
5a. She seeks treatment -- at the prompting of her husband
6. She is diagnosed as having STD
10a. Doctor discusses STD diagnosis with husband (was this part of the process of diagnosis)?
7a. Doctor & husband deduce that she is having an affair
6.1 Doctor has conversation with her about her diagnosis and inquires as to possible partner.
6.2 She discloses identity of boyfriend.
11. Husband announces he is leaving
8. Doctor diagnoses boyfriend
9. She gets treatment
12. Doctor tells her she will be OK and they can save boyfriend
13. A goddam albatross does NOT fly through the ER
14. She cries.

Now correct? Didn't think so.

Which steps are incorrect?
Which steps are correct but out of order?
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Are doctor, girl, boyfriend, husband human-beings?
Did they have some unusual physical abilities some time ago?
Was the husband very important person?
Does wife loves her husband now?
Does she cry because she will lose all the wealth that her husband had?
Does her husband has other kind of disease?
Does the doctor cured the husband too?
Does albatross is working in this hospital?
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Ok whats left to find here? We know she has an STD and the husband does not have it. They were having sex so surely the husband must have deduced that she got the disease from an affair. No?
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Incorrect sequence v3.1:
1. Her birth
2. She marries her husband
3. She has an affair and gets an STD from it
4. Symptoms present themselves
5a. She seeks treatment -- at the prompting of her husband
6. She is diagnosed as having STD
10a. Doctor discusses STD diagnosis with husband (was this part of the process of diagnosis)? Yes.

7a. Doctor & husband deduce that she is having an affair
6.1 Doctor has conversation with her about her diagnosis and inquires as to possible partner.
6.2 She discloses identity of boyfriend.
11. Husband announces he is leaving
8. Doctor diagnoses boyfriend
9. She gets treatment
12. Doctor tells her she will be OK and they can save boyfriend
13. A goddam albatross does NOT fly through the ER
14. She cries.

Now correct? Didn't think so.

Which steps are incorrect?
Which steps are correct but out of order? 6.1, 6.2, 7a, 8 but it's not terribly important, 9, 10a

Are doctor, girl, boyfriend, husband human-beings? All are H/A/the sex you'd expect.
Did they have some unusual physical abilities some time ago? No.
Was the husband very important person? No.
Does wife loves her husband now? Yes.
Does she cry because she will lose all the wealth that her husband had? Not specifically.
Does her husband has other kind of disease? No.
Does the doctor cured the husband too? No.
Does albatross is working in this hospital? No.

Ok whats left to find here? We know she has an STD and the husband does not have it. They were having sex so surely the husband must have deduced that she got the disease from an affair. No? There's more to it than that -- explore the process of diagnosis as well as how it was determined that she must have gotten the disease from sex. I don't think I made it particularly clear, but the disease is one that usually is transmitted in other ways than through sex.
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Was there an organ or blood transplantation between her and boyfriend? Husband?
Is she pregnant now?
Who is the father? husband? boyfriend?
Does husband thought that his wife has other kind of disease?
What processes were done in hospital? Echoscopy, endoskopy, blood tests, reantgen photos, alergy tests, pregnancy tests, urine or excrement tests?
Is wife and her husband visiting this doctor the first time?
Does this STD differs for men and women?
Can the husband notice the affair by himself if there will be no doctors arround for a day? a week? a month? a year? never?
Will the wife die without treatment?
Does she has some unusual (not meat) matereal in her body?
Did her husband enlarged his penis?
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Was there an organ or blood transplantation between her and boyfriend? Husband? Neither.
Is she pregnant now? No.
Who is the father? husband? boyfriend? FA
Does husband thought that his wife has other kind of disease? Probably so.
What processes were done in hospital? Echoscopy, endoskopy, blood tests This one, reantgen photos, alergy tests, pregnancy tests, urine or excrement tests? Possibly this one as well.
Is wife and her husband visiting this doctor the first time? Yes.
Does this STD differs for men and women? No.
Can the husband notice the affair by himself if there will be no doctors arround for a day? a week? a month? a year? never? Please clarify your question.
Will the wife die without treatment? Yes.
Does she has some unusual (not meat) matereal in her body? Yes, for svv of "unusual material."
Did her husband enlarged his penis? No.
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Does the doctor and husband discussed some treatment options?
Does the husband choose the best one?
Is the treatment very hard for the wife physically? Emotionally?
Does this "unusual material" was found in her blood?
Is it solid material? Metal? wood? Liquid? Paint?
Did the wife get infected in her mouth? Vagina? Anal? Skin? Eyes? ears? other? relevant?
Was she infected directly from her boyfriend?
When doctor was discussing with the husband about the disease, did doctor at first thought that wife was infected by her husband?
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I'm not a House fan, but I believe it's usually a sort of mystery show about figuring out how someone got sick. Was this a disease that is normally spread by airborne contagion? body fluid contact (saliva, blood, etc.)? contaminated food or water? genetics? infection of an injury? animal bites? insect bites? unknown? some combination of factors? something else? Was there a specific reason why they didn't think she was infected in the usual way? For instance, she didn't have the gene, she hadn't suffered any bites recently, she hadn't been to the country where it's prevalent, etc.? Is it something trendy, like SARS or swine flu?

Here's my mini chronology:
1. Doctor suspects there's something unusual about the way she was infected
2. Doctor does some snooping
3. Doctor discovers affair
4. Doctor realizes she's actually contracted it sexually, and the story proceeds from there.

Is this roughly accurate, or is it more like this:
1. Doctor is puzzled about how she was infected
2. Doctor runs a whole bunch of medical tests
3. Doctor discovers something unique about her disease that suggests it was contracted sexually

Or, third option:
1. Doctor is running blood tests, and hasn't gotten around to wondering about cause
2. Doctor gives husband routine warnings about the possibility that the girl might have sexually infected him
3. Either the husband gives the doctor some relevant information, or the warnings get the doctor to thinking, and he realizes he should trap the girl into revealing whether she's had an affair
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Does the doctor and husband discussed some treatment options? Yes.
Does the husband choose the best one? Yes.
Is the treatment very hard for the wife physically? This one. Emotionally?
Does this "unusual material" was found in her blood? No.
Is it solid material? Metal? wood? Liquid? Paint? None of these.
Did the wife get infected in her mouth? Vagina? Anal? Skin? Eyes? ears? other? relevant? Not really.
Was she infected directly from her boyfriend? Yes.
When doctor was discussing with the husband about the disease, did doctor at first thought that wife was infected by her husband? No.

I'm not a House fan, but I believe it's usually a sort of mystery show about figuring out how someone got sick. Was this a disease that is normally spread by airborne contagion? body fluid contact (saliva, blood, etc.)? contaminated food or water? genetics? infection of an injury? animal bites? insect bites? This one. unknown? some combination of factors? something else? Was there a specific reason why they didn't think she was infected in the usual way? Yes. For instance, she didn't have the gene, she hadn't suffered any bites recently, she hadn't been to the country where it's prevalent, This one etc.? Is it something trendy, like SARS or swine flu? Neither of these.

Here's my mini chronology:
1. Doctor suspects there's something unusual about the way she was infected
2. Doctor does some snooping
3. Doctor discovers affair
4. Doctor realizes she's actually contracted it sexually, and the story proceeds from there.

Is this roughly accurate, or is it more like this:
1. Doctor is puzzled about how she was infected
2. Doctor runs a whole bunch of medical tests
3. Doctor discovers something unique about her disease that suggests it was contracted sexually
This chronology is closest, but not entirely correct.

Or, third option:
1. Doctor is running blood tests, and hasn't gotten around to wondering about cause
2. Doctor gives husband routine warnings about the possibility that the girl might have sexually infected him
3. Either the husband gives the doctor some relevant information, or the warnings get the doctor to thinking, and he realizes he should trap the girl into revealing whether she's had an affair
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West Nile? Malaria? Lyme disease? Yellow fever? Dengue fever? Encephalitis? Typhus?
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Does the type of disease shows the location where the wife was some time ago with her boyfriend?
Does her husband thought that she is in other place?
Does the location, where she really was, is the main evidence of an affair?
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West Nile? Malaria? Lyme disease? Yellow fever? Dengue fever? Encephalitis? Typhus? None of these.

Does the type of disease shows the location where the wife was some time ago with her boyfriend?
Does her husband thought that she is in other place?
Does the location, where she really was, is the main evidence of an affair? No to all.
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Insect is mosquito? bug? bee?
DO we need to figure out the disease?
Is husband's profession important?
Does these insects live naturally in the environment of wife and husband? boyfriend?
Does these insects live artificially in the environment of wife and husband? boyfriend?
Does doctor knows about insects more than usual doctor?
The result of wife's disease will be amputation? Surgery? Lots of pain? Blindness? Deafness?
She will be ok after 1week? month? year? never?

Do we need to find out how doctor noticed that disease=affair?
Do we need to find out more about doctor and husband dialogue? About the decision husband made?
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Insect is mosquito? bug? This is closest. bee?
DO we need to figure out the disease? It would help.
Is husband's profession important? No.
Does these insects live naturally in the environment of wife and husband? boyfriend? No.
Does these insects live artificially in the environment of wife and husband? boyfriend? No.
Does doctor knows about insects more than usual doctor? No.
The result of wife's disease will be amputation? Surgery? Lots of pain? Blindness? Deafness? None of these, but may mislead.
She will be ok after 1week? More than this. month? But less than this. year? never?

Do we need to find out how doctor noticed that disease=affair? Yes.
Do we need to find out more about doctor and husband dialogue? About the decision husband made? Both.
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Is it spread by ticks? lice? mites? bedbugs? beetles? flies? fleas? midges? ants? wasps? spiders? scorpions? bats? something that flies? something that feeds on blood? Does the particular insect species exist in the US at all? Is it only common in one particular country? Had the boyfriend been to that country? Did the doctor ask her if she knew anyone who had been to that country? Did he know for sure that she had a boyfriend and she had contracted this disease sexually from him before he observed her reaction to his mention of the boyfriend?
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does this disease is quite rare?
does the blood test directly leaded to affair?
does the blood tests put some questions for a doctor, so he asked husband some questions?
These questions were about his wife? about her hobby? About her friends? about her relatives? other?
Doctor offered two treatment options? more?
Will you condemn husband if he would chose the other treatment option?
Would it be legal (by law) to chose the other option?
Does the doctor told his attitude towards an affair?
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Is it spread by ticks? lice? mites? bedbugs? beetles? flies? This one. fleas? midges? ants? wasps? spiders? scorpions? bats? something that flies? something that feeds on blood? Also this. Does the particular insect species exist in the US at all? No. Is it only common in one particular country? More than one, but this is the right idea. Had the boyfriend been to that country? Yes. Did the doctor ask her if she knew anyone who had been to that country? No. Did he know for sure that she had a boyfriend and she had contracted this disease sexually from him before he observed her reaction to his mention of the boyfriend? Yes.

does this disease is quite rare? No.
does the blood test directly leaded to affair? No.
does the blood tests put some questions for a doctor, so he asked husband some questions? Yes.
These questions were about his wife? This one. about her hobby? About her friends? about her relatives? other? Also this.
Doctor offered two treatment options? Yope. more? No.
Will you condemn husband if he would chose the other treatment option? No.
Would it be legal (by law) to chose the other option? No, but there's an FA lurking.
Does the doctor told his attitude towards an affair? Please clarify.
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does doctor asked a husband about wife visiting africa? n. america, s.america, europe, asia, australia, arctica?
was boyfriend abroad?
does the husband know the boyfriend?
does the husband know that boyfriend was abroad?
does the some time ago doctor noticed the boyfriend as only one unique person, who has this kind of disease in hospital? town? country?
does the boyfriends disease and and the wife's symptoms made doctor think that these two persons might have the same disease?
does the doctor thought that only way that boyfriend transmitted disease to wife is sex?
tsetse fly?
trypanosomiasis?
albatrosfly?
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does doctor asked a husband about wife visiting africa? This one. n. america, s.america, europe, asia, australia, arctica?
was boyfriend abroad? Yes.
does the husband know the boyfriend? Yes.
does the husband know that boyfriend was abroad? <b>No.</B.
does the some time ago doctor noticed the boyfriend as only one unique person, who has this kind of disease in hospital? town? country? No to all.
does the boyfriends disease and and the wife's symptoms made doctor think that these two persons might have the same disease? No.
does the doctor thought that only way that boyfriend transmitted disease to wife is sex? Yes.
tsetse fly? Indeed.
trypanosomiasis? Exactly so.
albatrosfly? So not this.
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Okay, so the doctor figures out that she has sleeping sickness (I'm not even going to try to spell the official name). Is this before he asks the husband whether his wife has been to africa? Once he knew that she hadn't been to africa, did he try to find out if she knew anyone who had been to africa? Were the husband and the boyfriend friends? coworkers? acquaintances? did he just know that the boyfriend knew his wife? Did the affair begin before the boyfriend left for africa? relevant why he was there? Did they have sex immediately after he returned? Or at least within the standard incubation period of 5 to 10 days? Did the doctor also ask the woman whether she knew anyone who had been to africa? did she admit that she did?
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Does the husband had a jogging partner?
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Okay, so the doctor figures out that she has sleeping sickness (I'm not even going to try to spell the official name). Is this before he asks the husband whether his wife has been to africa? It's part of the process. Once he knew that she hadn't been to africa, did he try to find out if she knew anyone who had been to africa? Noish. Were the husband and the boyfriend friends? This. coworkers? acquaintances? did he just know that the boyfriend knew his wife? Did the affair begin before the boyfriend left for africa? Probably. relevant why he was there? No. Did they have sex immediately after he returned? Most likely, yes, although the exact timing isn't really relevant. Or at least within the standard incubation period of 5 to 10 days? Did the doctor also ask the woman whether she knew anyone who had been to africa? No. did she admit that she did? So no.

Does the husband had a jogging partner? Yes. Seems like you've seen this episode.
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sorry i noticed only now that googling is not alowed, sorry i am out of this puzzle.
Good luck Ohlala8, the truth is nearby!
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Alright, so to recap: not necessarily in this order, since order is tricky, but the girl is brought into the hospital, delirious with sleeping sickness, which is odd because sleeping sickness is usually only contracted in Africa. The doctor asks the husband whether she has been to Africa, and he says no, but he does have a friend/jogging partner(?) who just got back (does the doctor actually ask whether anyone they know has been to africa? or does the husband just volunteer that information? Does the husband know that his wife and his friend know each other? are "friends"?) Anyway, it's House, so there are medical tests and snooping, and the doctor figures out that the only plausible way she could have contracted the disease would be sexually, and this friend is obviously a likely candidate. Is there another step in his logic? in his investigations? Does he know that the boyfriend has the disease? Is the boyfriend in the same hospital? Is the boyfriend also his patient?
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Just a stab here, not sure if it's been asked yet, but are the doctor and the husband the same person?
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Alright, so to recap: not necessarily in this order, since order is tricky, but the girl is brought into the hospital Yes, delirious with sleeping sickness Eventually..., which is odd because sleeping sickness is usually only contracted in Africa. The doctor asks the husband whether she has been to Africa, and he says no, Yes but he does have a friend/jogging partner(?) who just got back No (does the doctor actually ask whether anyone they know has been to africa? No. or does the husband just volunteer that information? No. Does the husband know that his wife and his friend know each other? Yes. are "friends"?) Anyway, it's House, so there are medical tests and snooping, and the doctor figures out that the only plausible way she could have contracted the disease would be sexually Yes, and this friend is obviously a likely candidate FA. Is there another step in his logic? Yes in his investigations? Yesish, no to rest Does he know that the boyfriend has the disease? Is the boyfriend in the same hospital? Is the boyfriend also his patient?

Just a stab here, not sure if it's been asked yet, but are the doctor and the husband the same person? No.
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Did the doctor ask the husband if he (the husband) had been to Africa? Did the doctor conclude that because he hadn't, and she hadn't, then there must be a boyfriend?
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The doctor was talking to the sister. The girl that was sick had slept with her sister's boyfriend.
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Is the jogging partner relevent?

Is the wife crying because the husband is not just "leaving" her
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I have never seen "House" but I think I may have the answer. What do I do now?
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Did the doctor ask the husband if he (the husband) had been to Africa? Yes. Did the doctor conclude that because he hadn't, and she hadn't, then there must be a boyfriend? Yesish, there are a few more steps in here.

The doctor was talking to the sister. The girl that was sick had slept with her sister's boyfriend. Not this.

Is the jogging partner relevent? Yes.

Is the wife crying because the husband is not just "leaving" her Not sure what you mean by this.

I have never seen "House" but I think I may have the answer. What do I do now? Post it if you think you have it; sometimes people ask for early $poilers to be emailed, but this is clearly not "early."
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Okay, so out of these:

1. The husband
2. The boyfriend
3. The husband's jogging partner
4. The doctor
5. Someone who had been to Africa
6. Someone whom the doctor knew had been to Africa

Which apply to the same person? Which knew each other prior to the incident described here?
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Okay, so out of these:

1. The husband
2. The boyfriend
3. The husband's jogging partner
4. The doctor
5. Someone who had been to Africa
6. Someone whom the doctor knew had been to Africa

Which apply to the same person? Which knew each other prior to the incident described here?

2, 3, and 5 apply to the same person. 1 and 2 knew each other.

HINT: 6 doesn't apply to anyone for most of the relevant time for the puzzle.
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They were in an accident, he could be saved, but they have to cut off a leg.

Although "could save her boyfriend" would mean she had a choice. So he must be on life support, and an operation is risky.

Consent would be needed from her.
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They were in an accident No, he could be saved So...FA, but they have to cut off a leg No.

Although "could save her boyfriend" would mean she had a choice Yes, actually. So he must be on life support No, and an operation is risky FA.

Consent would be needed from her. Noish to yope
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She would have to tell them who the boyfriend was in order for them to save him?
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She would have to tell them who the boyfriend was in order for them to save him? Exactly so.
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So she is crying because her boyfriend is her husband's jogging partner and she didn't want him to know?
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So she is crying because her boyfriend is her husband's jogging partner and she didn't want him to know? Correct. Now given my previous answer and some other things that have been found out (I suggest recapping the puzzle as you understand it), the thing to find out is how her husband discovered she had been having an affair.
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Did the jogging partner start showing the same symptoms? Called in sick?
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Did the jogging partner start showing the same symptoms? Called in sick? Neither.
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More people relevant than the wife, the husband, the jogging partner and the doctor?
Did the doctor tell the husband that the wife could only have contracted the disease sexually?
Did the husband know that his jogging partner was sick? Relevant? If so, did he tell that to the doctor?
Did the husband find out about the affair? Or did the doctor find out, and tell the husband? Or did the doctor ahd husband come to the conclusion together?
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There was an accident , their body was completely damaged.

During operation the doctor changed the gender . Or some way they mistakenly .

SO she cried , that the she is a he and the other person is her girlfriend.

OR one answer for sure is , SHE is HE
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More people relevant than the wife, the husband, the jogging partner and the doctor? Not really.
Did the doctor tell the husband that the wife could only have contracted the disease sexually? Yes.
Did the husband know that his jogging partner was sick? No. Relevant? Probably not. If so, did he tell that to the doctor? So no.
Did the husband find out about the affair? Or did the doctor find out, and tell the husband? Or did the doctor ahd husband come to the conclusion together? This is closest. Probably best to say they came to the conclusion at different times for essentially the same reason.


There was an accident , their body was completely damaged.

During operation the doctor changed the gender . Or some way they mistakenly .

SO she cried , that the she is a he and the other person is her girlfriend.

OR one answer for sure is , SHE is HE Nothing of this nature.
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This puzzle is really long, a recap may be in order.
As I understand it:
1. Jogging partner goes to Africa and gets sleeping sickness.
2. Jogging partner returns, sleeps with wife, infects her
3. Wife gets sick (jogging partner gets sick too, but doesn't go to hospital, noone relevant knows he's sick yet)
4. Wife goes to hospital
5. Doctor diagnoses sleeping sickness
6. Doctor asks husband if wife has been to Africa, is told no. Does he ask husband if he's been to Africa at this point?
7. Doctor tells husband disease must have been transmitted sexually. Does he ask husband if he's been to Africa now? Doe she test husband for sleeping disease?
8. Doctor and husband conclude, separately, that the wife has a lover
9. Doctor discloses his conclusions to the wife in a quite insensitive manner
10. The wife realizes everything, and cries

Are there steps missing? Or wrong? If so, which/where? I don't see how the wife knew that the husband also knew what the doctor knew - is this the missing piece? Relationship between doctor and husband relevant?
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Hello D_gordon,

I need to ask you to answer the existing questions on this puzzle, or I'll have to move it over to Lateral Limbo for now. Thank you!
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This puzzle is really long, a recap may be in order. This set of questions is a good start...let me know if you want a more detailed one. First, let me make sure I don't get swept into limbo.
As I understand it:
1. Jogging partner goes to Africa and gets sleeping sickness. Yes.
2. Jogging partner returns, sleeps with wife, infects her Yes.
3. Wife gets sick (jogging partner gets sick too, but doesn't go to hospital, noone relevant knows he's sick yet) Yesish.
4. Wife goes to hospital Yes.
5. Doctor diagnoses sleeping sickness Yes.
6. Doctor asks husband if wife has been to Africa, is told no. This actually happened earlier, as part of 5. Does he ask husband if he's been to Africa at this point? Yes.
7. Doctor tells husband disease must have been transmitted sexually. Does he ask husband if he's been to Africa now? No, he already did. Doe she test husband for sleeping disease?
8. Doctor and husband conclude, separately, that the wife has a lover Yes.
9. Doctor discloses his conclusions to the wife in a quite insensitive manner Yes.
10. The wife realizes everything, and cries Yes.

Are there steps missing? Or wrong? If so, which/where? Not missing exactly...you will want to investigate what happened in the process of diagnosing sleeping sickness, though. I don't see how the wife knew that the husband also knew what the doctor knew - is this the missing piece? Partly, and I'll give a hint here: it has to do with the nature of the treatment for sleeping sickness. (Use Google or Wikipedia if you want on this, since the relevant facts aren't well-known.) Relationship between doctor and husband relevant? No.
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One of the common treatments for sleeping sickness has "psychotic reactions" listed as a possible side effect. Did she reveal something about her affair during a psychotic reaction? If not that, is another side effect of treatment relevant?

For the diagnosis, is the relevant part related to identification of her symptoms? Or due to something seen in the blood sample?
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One of the common treatments for sleeping sickness has "psychotic reactions" listed as a possible side effect. Did she reveal something about her affair during a psychotic reaction? No. If not that, is another side effect of treatment relevant? Yes, for svv of "side effect"

For the diagnosis, is the relevant part related to identification of her symptoms? Yes. Or due to something seen in the blood sample? No.
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Are any of the following symptoms relevant:
fever? headaches? joint pains? swollen lymph nodes? anemia? kidney disease? endocrine disease? cardiac disease? confusion? reduced coordination? fatigue? manic periods? daytime slumber? insomnia? coma?
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Are any of the following symptoms relevant:
fever? Yes. headaches? joint pains? swollen lymph nodes? anemia? kidney disease? endocrine disease? cardiac disease? confusion? Yesish. reduced coordination? fatigue? Yes. manic periods? daytime slumber? Yes. insomnia? coma? Yes.

Assume no to rest. They might have happened, but aren't particularly relevant.
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At what time did she have a coma? Before being brought to the doctor? After she began to be seen by him? relevant?
If before, who discovered her: her husband? Her boyfriend?
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At what time did she have a coma? Before being brought to the doctor? After she began to be seen by him? This one. relevant? Yes.
If before, who discovered her: her husband? Her boyfriend?
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Did her boyfriend attempt to contact her while she was in a coma (call her cell phone or something)? And the doctor saw it/heard it?
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- Does the bf know that he is infected before he sleeps with the wife. Is this relevant?

- Does the bf know that he is infected before the wife goes to hospital. Is this relevant?

- Did the bf know that the wife was admitted to hospital?

- If not, did he find out later? Is this relevant?

- Is the fact that the disease has two sets of symptoms relevant? From what I can tell, initial symptons are physical (fever, aches & pains, lumps & bumps) and if untreated the symptoms change (confusion, delusions, coma). Is this true? Is this relevant?

- Did the wife and/or husband think that the wife had a different disease initially (based on the first set of symptoms)? Is this relevant? If yes, is it relevant what they thought her condition was?

- Was the bf admitted to hospital?

- If yes, was he admitted as a direct result of the wife being admitted?

- If yes, was this based on her first set of symptoms? Or her second set of symptoms?
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Did her boyfriend attempt to contact her while she was in a coma (call her cell phone or something)? No. And the doctor saw it/heard it? So no.

- Does the bf know that he is infected before he sleeps with the wife. No. Is this relevant? Not really.

- Does the bf know that he is infected before the wife goes to hospital. No. Is this relevant? Yesish.

- Did the bf know that the wife was admitted to hospital? No.

- If not, did he find out later? Not until after the moment described in the puzzle. Is this relevant? Yes.

- Is the fact that the disease has two sets of symptoms relevant? From what I can tell, initial symptons are physical (fever, aches & pains, lumps & bumps) and if untreated the symptoms change (confusion, delusions, coma). Is this true? Is this relevant? Both true and relevant.

- Did the wife and/or husband think that the wife had a different disease initially (based on the first set of symptoms)? Yes, as did the doctors. Is this relevant? Yes. If yes, is it relevant what they thought her condition was? Yesish, but the exact condition is not important. The importance is, again, in a characteristic of the treatment.

- Was the bf admitted to hospital? After the moment described in the puzzle.

- If yes, was he admitted as a direct result of the wife being admitted? Yes.

- If yes, was this based on her first set of symptoms? Or her second set of symptoms? Second set.
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Is the important characteristic of the treatment its danger? that it is potentially fatal in itself?
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Is the important characteristic of the treatment its danger? that it is potentially fatal in itself? This one.
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So has he a moral dilemma; agreeing to the potentially fatal treatment shows he has doubts about her fidelity? And he leaves her when the treatment works? And this is explained to her when she recovers from the delirium? Is there more to be discovered here?
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I have read 2 or 3 of the posts but my first impression/answer that came to mind is that her husband would have to die to save boy friend BUT she wanted her husband to live instead.
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I have read 2 or 3 of the posts but my first impression/answer that came to mind is that her husband would have to die to save boy friend BUT she wanted her husband to live instead. When there are 250 posts, you really should read more than two or three.

So has he a moral dilemma; agreeing to the potentially fatal treatment shows he has doubts about her fidelity? Yes. And he leaves her when the treatment works? Indeed. And this is explained to her when she recovers from the delirium? Correct. Is there more to be discovered here? Not really, so it's time for a...

**********SPOILER**********
As I mentioned, this puzzle closely follows an episode of House -- specifically, "Fidelity" (season 1, episode 7.) You should watch it if you get a chance; it's a good one. Thanks to all who knew this for not revealing it and allowing the puzzle to continue.

The woman got the parasite that causes sleeping sickness through sex with her boyfriend. When the symptoms (in this case, exhaustion and irritability) became serious, her husband took her to a doctor, and of course eventually ended up with Dr. House. After several failed diagnoses, the woman began hallucinating and generally getting worse. By this point they have narrowed the possibilities to two diseases -- tularemia, for which the symptoms don't really fit, and sleeping sickness, which she could have only gotten in Africa -- but she has never been there, nor had a blood transfusion which could have given it to her from an infected person.

While treating another patient, House has an inspiration: anything transmitted through blood can be transmitted through sex. House is convinced that the only possibility is sleeping sickness, but since the husband has never been to Africa either, this means that one or the other had been having sex outside their marriage. But the team now faces a dilemma: whether the disease is tularemia or sleeping sickness, they must begin treatment as soon as possible, but both treatments are quite dangerous. In particular, the treatment for sleeping sickness kills ten percent of patients by itself. Neither husband nor wife will admit to an affair, so they begin treatment for tularemia.

That night, the woman falls into a coma. The husband insists he had never had an affair -- and House believes him, but asks whether there is any doubt whatsoever in his mind about his wife's fidelity, making it clear that if she has sleeping sickness and they do not treat, she will die. He agrees to allow treatment.

Initially the woman continues to get worse, and the husband comments that part of him hopes she dies, to prove that she had been faithful, recognizing that if she recovers with the treatment, that would mean she had not been. But her condition finally makes a turn for the better, and recognizing what this means, he walks away.

The wife wakes up, and presumably the scene described in the puzzle statement takes place. "He's not coming back, is he?" she asks. House replies "We all make mistakes. And we all pay the price. I need that name." As it turns out, that name belongs to the husband's jogging partner.

Thanks to everyone for participating in this incredibly lengthy puzzle (250+ posts -- wow! I thought it was almost finished a long time ago) and Oisin for finally finishing it off. This episode contains one of my favorite House quotes, too: When House says that someone needs to ask the husband whether he had been faithful, one of his assistants says something like "This man's wife is about to die and you want to ask if he cheated on her?" House sarcastically answers "No. I want you to be polite and let her die."

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