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Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 5:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is a puzzle about two scrunds:

Scrund #1 is one I'm sure MANY children would have had a generation or two ago. Some children might still have this scrund now, but it's less likely than it used to be.

Scrund #2 no child could POSSIBLY have had until recently, and this generation of children probably won't have it either. But it's very likely that some children in the future will have it.

There is a VERY small connection between the two scrunds.
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Does one of the scrunds involve chicken pox? the belief that getting chicken pox means that you need to get your head cut?

Does scrund one involve a disease? that has been nearly eradicated by vaccines? does scrund two involve a disease? that has been nearly eradicated by vaccinees?

Does scrund 1 involve playing video games? Does scrund 2? the length of time playing viedo games effecting ones eyesight?

Are any of the following relevant? holidays? cultural icons? foods? popular restaurants? United States presidents?
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Does one of the scrunds involve chicken pox? the belief that getting chicken pox means that you need to get your head cut? No.

Does scrund one involve a disease? that has been nearly eradicated by vaccines? does scrund two involve a disease? that has been nearly eradicated by vaccinees? No to all.

Does scrund 1 involve playing video games? Does scrund 2? the length of time playing viedo games effecting ones eyesight? No to all.

Are any of the following relevant? holidays? cultural icons? foods? popular restaurants? United States presidents? No or noish to all.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 2:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything to do with women's undergarments?
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Huh, I wonder what Doctapeppa is thinking of...

Anyway, are any of the following relevant:
Telephones? the internet? cars? other technology? movies? geography?
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Anything to do with women's undergarments? No.

Huh, I wonder what Doctapeppa is thinking of... I wonder too...

Anyway, are any of the following relevant:
Telephones? This one. the internet? cars? other technology? movies? geography? Noish to other technology and geography, no to everything else.
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Don't be silly. I was thinking about my scrund puzzle.
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Are any of the following relevant?:
Area codes? Voicemail or answering machines? The fact that "dialing" on an old phone used an actual dial? The fact that the ring you hear when dialing a number is not actually the same sound as the person hears at the other end?
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Are any of the following relevant?:
Area codes? Voicemail or answering machines? The fact that "dialing" on an old phone used an actual dial? The fact that the ring you hear when dialing a number is not actually the same sound as the person hears at the other end? None of these, unfortunately. But good thinking.
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Is scrund 1 about how to call out on a phone? How to answer a phone? The buttons on a phone? The speakers? The voice on the other end? Speakerphone? Big 80s portable phones? Car phones?

Is scrund 2 about how to call out on a phone? How to answer a phone? The buttons on a phone? The speakers? The voice on the other end? Speakerphone? Cell phones? Other applications on a phone? iPhone-type devices that also play music, connect to the internet, etc?
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Is scrund 1 about how to call out on a phone? How to answer a phone? The buttons on a phone? The speakers? The voice on the other end? Speakerphone? Big 80s portable phones? Car phones? Scrund 1 has nothing to do with phones. Only Scrund 2 does.

Is scrund 2 about how to call out on a phone? How to answer a phone? The buttons on a phone? The speakers? The voice on the other end? Speakerphone? Cell phones? Other applications on a phone? iPhone-type devices that also play music, connect to the internet, etc? No or noish to all. Forgetting about the phone for a while may be the best strategy here.
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Anything to do with what is the number for 911? that you can't call it because your phone doesn't have an 11?

How about people living in the phones because you can sometimes pick up other's conversations?

Does scrund 1 involve cameras? video cameras? car travel? something one typically finds in the home? If so, bedroom? living room? dining room, kitchen, garage, basement, bathroom, closet, attic? At school? Indoors or outdoors? airports?
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Anything to do with what is the number for 911? Yes. that you can't call it because your phone doesn't have an 11? But not that.

How about people living in the phones because you can sometimes pick up other's conversations? No.

Does scrund 1 involve cameras? video cameras? car travel? something one typically finds in the home? If so, bedroom? living room? dining room, kitchen, garage, basement, bathroom, closet, attic? At school? Indoors or outdoors? airports? None of these. Nowhere close.

HINT: Figure out WHY Scrund 1 mostly affected past generations and Scrund 2 can ONLY affect future generations. There's a fairly clear reason why this is the case, and the ONLY connection between the two scrunds is this reason.
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Anything to do with 911 not being in certain areas - my area didn't get 911 until a few years after 911 stopped being aired. So it didn't seem a useful number to know even when I knew about 911 as a kid.

That all police departments had a different number? That the police couldn't track the number you were calling from?

That 911 is just for true emergencies - in smaller areas, 911 is also the only non-emergency local number


Scrund 2 - that it works in all countries? whereas other countries have numbers like 999.
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Anything to do with 911 not being in certain areas - my area didn't get 911 until a few years after 911 stopped being aired. So it didn't seem a useful number to know even when I knew about 911 as a kid. No to all.

That all police departments had a different number? That the police couldn't track the number you were calling from? {No to all.}

That 911 is just for true emergencies - in smaller areas, 911 is also the only non-emergency local number No to all.


Scrund 2 - that it works in all countries? whereas other countries have numbers like 999. Scrund 2 has NOTHING at all to do with 911 or telephones.
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Wait... I'm confused.
Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 5:26 am: Scrund 1 has nothing to do with phones. Only Scrund 2 does.
Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 9:24 am: Scrund 2 has NOTHING at all to do with 911 or telephones.
Are both these statements correct??


So a telephone is relevant, but not something we want to focus on?

The reason scrund 1 mostly affected earlier generations and not current -- Is there a relevant item that is no longer used? or that was changed? Did you mean that the reason each scrund affects who it does is the same for each?
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Wait... I'm confused.
Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 5:26 am: Scrund 1 has nothing to do with phones. Only Scrund 2 does.
Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 9:24 am: Scrund 2 has NOTHING at all to do with 911 or telephones.
Are both these statements correct??

********************BLOOPER**********************

Scrund 2 IS about telephones and 911. Scrund 1 is not.



So a telephone is relevant, but not something we want to focus on? Scrund 2 IS is about telephones, but not about anything in particular about the phones themselves. It's ONLY about the 911 call.

The reason scrund 1 mostly affected earlier generations and not current -- Is there a relevant item that is no longer used? or that was changed? No, it's not about an item, but something relevant DID change that means Scrund 1 is less likely to affect current generations. Did you mean that the reason each scrund affects who it does is the same for each? Yope. It's not the same, but there is a connection between the two reasons, as well as some similarity in the nature of the two scrunds (even though they're about completely different things). I can't really say more until you have some information about the scrunds themselves.
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Does Scrund 2 relate to:

Where (i.e. how local or remote) the 911 dispatcher is who answers calls from a given area?
A means of tracking where a 911 call made on a cell phone is originating from geographically?
The chance that any given person will need to make a 911 call at some point in his lifetime?
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Does Scrund 2 relate to:

Where (i.e. how local or remote) the 911 dispatcher is who answers calls from a given area?
A means of tracking where a 911 call made on a cell phone is originating from geographically?
The chance that any given person will need to make a 911 call at some point in his lifetime? None of these. It's simpler than this.

Bear in mind that both of these scrunds are ones that YOUNG CHILDREN would most likely have. Virtually anyone past grade school age would KNOW these assumptions were wrong, but they're conclusions that a child with limited information might easily jump to, so keep that in mind.
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Scrund 2 have anything to do with:
the fact that you're not supposed to hang up when you're on the line with a 911 operator?
whether or not an emergency operator can pinpoint where you're calling from?
the fact that 911 is only for emergencies? and that there are different numbers for non-emergencies?
whether or not calling 911 costs you 'minutes' or creates a charge on your phone bill?
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Scrund 2 have anything to do with:
the fact that you're not supposed to hang up when you're on the line with a 911 operator?
whether or not an emergency operator can pinpoint where you're calling from?
the fact that 911 is only for emergencies? and that there are different numbers for non-emergencies?
whether or not calling 911 costs you 'minutes' or creates a charge on your phone bill? No to all. Nowhere close.
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Is scrund 2 about dialing the number? or speaking to the dispatcher?

Does it involve the reasons for making the call? When to make or not make the call? If it is safe to tell who they are, and give out their address?
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Is scrund 2 about dialing the number? This is the only one that's close, so I'll say Yope. or speaking to the dispatcher?

Does it involve the reasons for making the call? When to make or not make the call? If it is safe to tell who they are, and give out their address? Rest are no.
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that you have to dial 1 first? that you have to use an area code? that all phone numbers must be 7 numbers? that you can't use a de-activated cell phone to call 911?

Mis-dialing relevant? Using old cell phones as toys, thinking the 911 operator is a pretend friend (thinking of the story of the girl in the apartment who called 911 over a 1,000 times on her moms old cell before the police were able to trace who was making the calls)? Otherwise playing with the phones?

Does it involve the old telephones that had speed dial buttons with pictures of fire trucks/police cars/ and ambulances. And a child might be confused as to which button to push now?

Dialing 911 using the internet?
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Anything to do with 9/11?
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that you have to dial 1 first? that you have to use an area code? that all phone numbers must be 7 numbers? that you can't use a de-activated cell phone to call 911? No to all.

Mis-dialing relevant? Using old cell phones as toys, thinking the 911 operator is a pretend friend (thinking of the story of the girl in the apartment who called 911 over a 1,000 times on her moms old cell before the police were able to trace who was making the calls)? Otherwise playing with the phones? No to all.

Does it involve the old telephones that had speed dial buttons with pictures of fire trucks/police cars/ and ambulances. And a child might be confused as to which button to push now? No to all.

Dialing 911 using the internet? No.

Anything to do with 9/11? YES!!!
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9/11 conspiracy theories relevant? United 93?
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9/11 conspiracy theories relevant? United 93? No to all.
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Is scrund 2 that 911 was designated as the emergency number in "honor" of 9/11/2001?
or that when people refer to the incident of 9/11, they are referring to any emergency in general, rather than a specific date?
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Is scrund 2 that 911 was designated as the emergency number in "honor" of 9/11/2001? Yes!!!
or that when people refer to the incident of 9/11, they are referring to any emergency in general, rather than a specific date? I didn't think of that, but that's another way the scrund could manifest itself.

Well done, Biograd. Scrund #2 is indeed that a young child, growing up in the post-9/11 world, might think that that 911 was chosen as the emergency call number to honor the heroic efforts of emergency workers on Sept. 11, 2001, not realizing that the 911 number has actually existed for decades.

Now try to figure out what Scrund #1 is about.
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Going back to Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 6:53 pm:

Are those children who are likely to no longer have Scrund #1 those born after the 9/11 attacks? born after the war in Iraq?

Are any of the following relevant to Scrund #1:
The World Trade Center? airplanes? Middle Eastern nations? the U.S. system of government?
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Are those children who are likely to no longer have Scrund #1 those born after the 9/11 attacks? born after the war in Iraq? No to both, but there IS a historical event that's relevant here.

Are any of the following relevant to Scrund #1:
The World Trade Center? airplanes? Middle Eastern nations? the U.S. system of government? No to all. Scrund #1 has NOTHING to do with 9/11 or the Middle East.
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HINT: The children who were most likely to have Scrund #1 were those who were born before the Cold War ended.
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The connection between the scrunds is something to do with the scrunds or the situation out of which they each arose that they have in common, correct?

Does Scrund #1 have to do with terrorist attacks? numbers? New York City? the month of September? emergency workers? attacks on the U.S.? the year 1901? 2001?
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The connection between the scrunds is something to do with the scrunds or the situation out of which they each arose that they have in common, correct? Yope. There are actually TWO connections between the scrunds. One is that they're both tied to particular historical eras (the Cold War and the post-9/11 world) because of the things kids would have heard about (current events and such) growing up at that time. The other connection (and this is a BIG hint) is that they're both about false origins/meanings of common phrases/abbreviations.

Does Scrund #1 have to do with terrorist attacks? numbers? New York City? the month of September? emergency workers? attacks on the U.S.? the year 1901? 2001? No to all.

***********************RECAP*********************

Scrund #2, a scrund some children in the near future are likely to grow up with (but which was IMPOSSIBLE to have until recently), has already been solved. It is the mistaken belief that the 911 emergency call number was chosen to honor the heroic efforts of emergency workes on Sept. 11, 2001.

Scrund #1, a scrund MANY children must have had a generation or two ago (and some probably still have, although I'm sure it's less common now) is still unsolved. It relates in some way to the Cold War, and it also involves a false derivation of a familiar phrase. It does NOT have anything to do with terrorism, New York City, emergency workers, or telephone numbers.
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This was posted on the duplicate thread while this was still on lateral limbo, so I'm repeating it here:

Was the "familiar phrase" that is the subject of the second scrund used in the Cold War? Yes. It's still used today, but the thing to which it referred no longer applies. "Duck and cover"? No. Perhaps phrase is the wrong word, but if I explained further it would give the answer away. Wild guess: "Duct tape" was used during "Duck and cover" drills? No.
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Is the "phrase" the name of a historical event? a quote by some well-known person at the time?
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On Scrund #1:
Is it a fear? A belief? Is it physical? Were they given it? Taught it? Passed on to them?

Is it about dates? (As in calender ones)

Is it physical? Is it a scar / bruise? Is it a haircut or a particular style?

Is the "phrase" a proverb or saying?
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Is the "phrase" the name of a historical event? No, but closer. a quote by some well-known person at the time? No. It's MUCH simpler than this.

Is it a fear? A belief? This one. Is it physical? Were they given it? Taught it? Passed on to them? None of these.

Is it about dates? (As in calender ones) No.

Is it physical? Is it a scar / bruise? Is it a haircut or a particular style? No to all.

Is the "phrase" a proverb or saying? No.

All of you are overworking this one. The solution is actually very simple.
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Is it NATO?
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Is it NATO? No, but getting closer.
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NAM?
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Is it about some geographic location? Wild guess: About the Red Square? And that its naming has something to do with communism?
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Anything to do with the iron curtain?
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NAM? No.

Is it about some geographic location? Yope. Wild guess: About the Red Square? But no. And that its naming has something to do with communism? So no.

Anything to do with the iron curtain? No.

You guys were closer when you were asking about NATO and NAM. The "phrase" IS an abbreviation/acronym, and the scrund is a mistaken belief about what one of the letters stands for. But keep in mind that this is a scrund young children are likely to have. Most young children haven't heard of NATO or NAM.
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The location, organisation or whatever it is, was it part of the Eastern Block during the Cold War? Of the West? Or something common to both sides? Does it still exist? Under the same name as during the Cold War?
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Is it an acronym for an organization or group of people (e.g. "HUAC," "NATO")? For a situation (e.g. "MAD")? For a piece of equipment or other item? A place? Something else? Does the acronym actually have anything to do with the Cold War? Or something brought about by the Cold War? Or was it simply around at that time? and the fact that the Cold War was on made young kids likely to misread the origin? Was the acronym around before the Cold War?
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The location, organisation or whatever it is, was it part of the Eastern Block during the Cold War? This one. Of the West? Or something common to both sides? Does it still exist? No. Under the same name as during the Cold War? So, no.

Is it an acronym for an organization or group of people (e.g. "HUAC," "NATO")? Yope. For a situation (e.g. "MAD")? No. For a piece of equipment or other item? No. A place? Yope. Something else? Does the acronym actually have anything to do with the Cold War? Yes. Or something brought about by the Cold War? Or was it simply around at that time? and the fact that the Cold War was on made young kids likely to misread the origin? No, the acronym/abbreviation did have to do wih the Cold War. Was the acronym around before the Cold War? Yes it was, but one was especially likely to hear about it during the Cold War.

Hint: The abbreviation/acronym was the short form of the name of a country.
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USSR?
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Or if not that, CCCP? Is it an abbrev/acronym for one of the constituent republics of the USSR?

If it is USSR, is the scrund (at least in part) related to the fact that USA and USSR start with the same letters? Might they think that USSR stands for "United States of" something?
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USSR? YES!!!

Or if not that, CCCP? Is it an abbrev/acronym for one of the constituent republics of the USSR? See above.

If it is USSR, is the scrund (at least in part) related to the fact that USA and USSR start with the same letters? No, but good thinking. Might they think that USSR stands for "United States of" something? No. The scrund involves thinking one particular letter in USSR stands for something other than what it really stands for. Once you figure out which letter is the culprit, it will probably be pretty easy to figure out what the scrund is.
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Is it that they think the R stands for Russia? I think I had that scrund myself at one point.
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Is it that they think the R stands for Russia? YES, INDEED!!!! I think I had that scrund myself at one point. As did I.

********************SPOILER**********************

Scrund #1 is the mistaken belief that the R in USSR stands for Russia. This was undoubtably a very common scrund during the Cold War, but is probably less common now, seeing as the USSR doesn't exist anymore.

Scrund #2 is the belief that the number 911 was selected as an emergency call number in order to honor the heroic efforts of emergency workers on Sept. 11, 2001. Obviously, this scrund was impossible to have pre-9/11, but I suspect that many young children of the present day, growing up post-9/11, may have this scrund (if they were too young to remember that the 911 emergency call had existed before 9/11).

Thanks for playing! I'll try to have a new puzzle ready as soon as possible.

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