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Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 819 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 7:50 am: |      |
No meal for the seagulls but mission accomplished. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 273 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 10:56 am: |      |
Was the mission to get a meal for the seagulls? To prevent them from getting a meal? Literal meal, seagulls, mission and accomplishment? Or is any of them a figure of speech? Would accomplishing the mission usually result in a meal for the seagulls? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 820 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 10:58 am: |      |
Galfisk, Was the mission to get a meal for the seagulls? NO To prevent them from getting a meal? NO Literal meal, seagulls, mission and accomplishment? YES Or is any of them a figure of speech? NO Would accomplishing the mission usually result in a meal for the seagulls? SOMETIMES BUT NOT NOW |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 274 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 11:27 am: |      |
Fishing relevant? Whaling? Does it happen at sea? Near the coast? Is there no meal for the seagulls because: the meal is out of reach? The meal is not produced in the first place? It was eaten by someone else? |
Cupofsun (Cupofsun)
New member Username: Cupofsun
Post Number: 178 Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 11:56 am: |      |
Is the meal that would "sometimes" (but not this time) be for the seagulls: Bread? Garbage? Leftover food? Fish? Food left by humans? On the beach? On the sea? Something that humans would consider "food" at all? Is the accomplished mission: a human mission? does it involve oil? seagulls? food? anything to do with weddings/throwing rice? is this a mission that is carried out daily/weekly/monthly/yearly/etc? military relevant? Are anyone's professions relevant? People in this puzzle, 1,2,3,50, etc? HAM's and HAF's? Country of origin relevant? Time period? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 821 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 12:09 pm: |      |
Galfisk, Fishing relevant? Whaling? NO Does it happen at sea? Near the coast? YES Is there no meal for the seagulls because: the meal is out of reach? The meal is not produced in the first place? It was eaten by someone else? NO, YES, NO |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 822 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 12:13 pm: |      |
CUP, Is the meal that would "sometimes" (but not this time) be for the seagulls: Bread? Garbage? Leftover food? NO Fish? YES Food left by humans? YES On the beach? On the sea? NO Something that humans would consider "food" at all? YES Is the accomplished mission: a human mission? YES does it involve oil? NO seagulls? YES food? anything to do with weddings/throwing rice? NO is this a mission that is carried out daily/weekly/monthly/yearly/etc? DAILY I GUESS military relevant? YES Are anyone's professions relevant? YES People in this puzzle, 1,2,3,50, etc? YES BUT YOU DO NOT NEED SPECIFIC NUMBERS HAM's and HAF's? HUMAN ADULT MALES AND FEMALES Country of origin relevant? YES Time period? YES - VERY RELEVANT |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 276 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 3:45 pm: |      |
Is the meal a byproduct of something else? Is its purpose to attract seagulls? Seagull eggs relevant? Does this happen in [LTPF list of centuries]? Navy relevent? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 823 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 5:35 pm: |      |
Galfisk, Is the meal a byproduct of something else? NO Is its purpose to attract seagulls? YES Seagull eggs relevant? NO Does this happen in [LTPF list of centuries]? 20TH Navy relevent? YES |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 278 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 10:24 pm: |      |
Wars relevant? WWI? II? Is the mission to attract seagulls? Capture seagulls? Kill seagulls? Keep seagulls away from somewhere? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 824 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 10:49 pm: |      |
Galfisk, Wars relevant? WWI? II? YES, WWII Is the mission to attract seagulls? YES AND NO Capture seagulls? Kill seagulls? Keep seagulls away from somewhere? NO |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 390 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 11:54 am: |      |
Camouflage relevant? Airplanes? Radar? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 279 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 12:17 pm: |      |
Was the mission accomplished without seagulls this time? Or did they do what was required without being fed? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
New member Username: Fleemco198
Post Number: 74 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 5:12 pm: |      |
could you repeat the "mission" again and still be mission accomplished? By the way could you put the answers in bold? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 825 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 10:43 pm: |      |
Tommy, Galfish, Fleem Camouflage relevant? Airplanes? Radar? NO Was the mission accomplished without seagulls this time? NO Or did they do what was required without being fed? CORRECT could you repeat the "mission" again and still be mission accomplished? YES By the way could you put the answers in bold? I PREFER CAPS |
Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck
Post Number: 158 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 6:04 am: |      |
Were the Seagulls being used as part of the mission? Were the Seagulls instrumental in accomplishing the mission? Could the mission have been accomplished without the Seagulls? Were the Seagulls trained in any way? Did the carry something? Messages? Ammo? Bombs? Did the Seagulls die in order to accomplish the mission? And therefore they were not fed? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 301 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 9:28 am: |      |
Did the seagulls show up expecting a meal? How many seagulls are required to accomplish the mission: 1, 2+, 5+, 10+, 20+, 50+, 100+, 1000+? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 826 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 5:27 pm: |      |
Rubberduck, Were the Seagulls being used as part of the mission? Were the Seagulls instrumental in accomplishing the mission? YES, YES Could the mission have been accomplished without the Seagulls? PROBABLY NOT Were the Seagulls trained in any way? YES Did they carry something? Messages? Ammo? Bombs? NO Did the Seagulls die in order to accomplish the mission? And therefore they were not fed? NO, NO |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 827 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 5:28 pm: |      |
GALFISK, Did the seagulls show up expecting a meal? YES How many seagulls are required to accomplish the mission: 1, 2+, 5+, 10+, 20+, 50+, 100+, 1000+? I DON'T KNOW - MAYBE 1 MAYBE 100 |
Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck
Post Number: 159 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 7:04 am: |      |
Were the Seagulls trained to catch fish? And not to eat the fish? Was the fish used to feed the Navy personnel? |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 360 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 8:42 am: |      |
Are any deaths involved? Humans? Fish? Seagulls? Other? Is a specific country/city relevant? Were the seagulls used as spies? Decoys? Explosives relevant? Was there no food for the seagulls the other times the mission was accomplished? Was their flying put to advantage? Could they have used other types of birds? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 828 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 1:40 pm: |      |
Rubberduck, Were the Seagulls trained to catch fish? NO (NOT EXACTLY OR DIRECTLY) And not to eat the fish? Was the fish used to feed the Navy personnel? NO - WRONG LINES |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 829 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 1:43 pm: |      |
QUO, Are any deaths involved? Humans? Fish? Seagulls? Other? POTENTIALLY YES - HUMANS Is a specific country/city relevant? YES, NO Were the seagulls used as spies? LOOSELY YES Decoys? NO Explosives relevant? NO Was there no food for the seagulls the other times the mission was accomplished? AT FIRST NO LATER YES! Was their flying put to advantage? YES Could they have used other types of birds? YES |
Ch33tah (Ch33tah)
New member Username: Ch33tah
Post Number: 7 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 5:48 pm: |      |
Did the seagulls attack humans? Did the seagulls see any enemy ships/buildings/.....? If so, did they have cameras with them? ^^ |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 830 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 10:36 am: |      |
Ch33 Did the seagulls attack humans? NO Did the seagulls see any enemy ships/buildings/.....? YES, NO If so, did they have cameras with them? NO |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 438 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 10:46 am: |      |
Did they at first train the seagulls by feeding them from boats, so that they should look for boats? Was the idea that if seagulls flew close to enemy ships, the ships positions could easier be found through the seagulls? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 831 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 11:47 am: |      |
Tommy, Did they at first train the seagulls YES by feeding them from boats, so that they should look for boats? VERY CLOSE Was the idea that if seagulls flew close to enemy ships, the ships positions could easier be found through the seagulls? YES ALMOST - VERY GOOD BUT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL NEEDED. |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 440 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 12:26 pm: |      |
Did they during training use boats that somehow looked like the enemy boats? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1011 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 1:39 pm: |      |
Did they put radio trackers on the seagulls? So that they could follow them on a map? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 367 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 3:23 pm: |      |
Was the mission that was accomplished this time the detection of enemy ship(s)? And that's why the seagulls didn't get a meal? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 832 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 3:44 pm: |      |
Tommy, Noel, Galfisk, Did they during training use boats that somehow looked like the enemy boats? YES - IN ONE REGARD Did they put radio trackers on the seagulls? So that they could follow them on a map? NO Was the mission that was accomplished this time the detection of enemy ship(s)? NO - BUT VERY CLOSE And that's why the seagulls didn't get a meal? CORRECT HINT - A BOAT IS NOT A SHIP |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 371 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 3:58 pm: |      |
Detection of boats? Detection of submarines? Mines? Other enemy objects at sea? I'm under the impression that reliable detection of subs was somewhat of a holy grail during WWII, this sounds like a kind of scheme that could very well have been tried. |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 833 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 4:47 pm: |      |
Galfisk, Detection of boats? Detection of submarines? YES - U-BOATS BUT HOW EXACTLY? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 373 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 5:16 pm: |      |
By feeding seagulls form u-boats (real or lookalike), making the seagulls associate the boats with food and congregate wherever they see one? Possibly specifically training them to home in on the u-boats underwater, by releasing the food through an airlock or torpedo lauch tube without surfacing? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 834 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 5:18 pm: |      |
Galfisk, By feeding seagulls from u-boats (real or lookalike), making the seagulls associate the boats with food and congregate wherever they see one? CORRECT Possibly specifically training them to home in on the u-boats underwater, by releasing the food through an airlock or torpedo lauch tube without surfacing? NO - SIMPLER THAN THAT |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 377 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 9:52 am: |      |
Did they train the seagulls to recognize: The sight of an u-boat? The sound? The movement? When it does something specific, like resurfacing? Taking in air? Diving? Were they specifically trained to associate only enemy u-boats with food? was the accomplished mission: the detection of an enemy u-boat? The congregation of seagulls on the training boat even with no meal being served? Were the seagulls fed from a real u-boat? Or from something that looked good enough? |
Admin (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 835 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 10:21 am: |      |
Galfisk, * * * SPOILER * * * Did they train the seagulls to recognize: The sight of an u-boat? The sound? The movement? When it does something specific, like resurfacing? Taking in air? Diving? Were they specifically trained to associate only enemy u-boats with food? Yes. During WW2 there was concern that German U-boats might come up the Firth of Forth and attack the British naval base. So someone had the very lateral idea of training seagulls to spot them. They started by sailing toy boats with periscopes on which there were many sardines. Flocks of seagulls swooped down and learnt to associate periscopes with food. If flocks of seagulls were seen swooping onto the water then spotters looked for enemy submarines. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 382 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 2:46 pm: |      |
Cool story and fun puzzle (: |