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Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 7:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No meal for the seagulls but mission accomplished.
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 10:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the mission to get a meal for the seagulls? To prevent them from getting a meal?
Literal meal, seagulls, mission and accomplishment? Or is any of them a figure of speech?
Would accomplishing the mission usually result in a meal for the seagulls?
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk,

Was the mission to get a meal for the seagulls?
NO

To prevent them from getting a meal?
NO

Literal meal, seagulls, mission and accomplishment?
YES

Or is any of them a figure of speech?
NO

Would accomplishing the mission usually result in a meal for the seagulls?
SOMETIMES BUT NOT NOW
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 11:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fishing relevant? Whaling? Does it happen at sea? Near the coast?
Is there no meal for the seagulls because: the meal is out of reach? The meal is not produced in the first place? It was eaten by someone else?
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 11:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the meal that would "sometimes" (but not this time) be for the seagulls:
Bread?
Garbage?
Leftover food?
Fish?
Food left by humans?
On the beach?
On the sea?
Something that humans would consider "food" at all?

Is the accomplished mission:
a human mission?
does it involve oil?
seagulls?
food?
anything to do with weddings/throwing rice?
is this a mission that is carried out daily/weekly/monthly/yearly/etc?
military relevant?

Are anyone's professions relevant?
People in this puzzle, 1,2,3,50, etc?
HAM's and HAF's?
Country of origin relevant?
Time period?
Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 12:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk,

Fishing relevant? Whaling?
NO

Does it happen at sea? Near the coast?
YES

Is there no meal for the seagulls because: the meal is out of reach? The meal is not produced in the first place? It was eaten by someone else?
NO, YES, NO
Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 12:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

CUP,

Is the meal that would "sometimes" (but not this time) be for the seagulls:
Bread?
Garbage?
Leftover food?
NO

Fish?
YES

Food left by humans?
YES

On the beach?
On the sea?
NO

Something that humans would consider "food" at all?
YES

Is the accomplished mission:
a human mission?
YES

does it involve oil?
NO

seagulls?
YES

food?
anything to do with weddings/throwing rice?
NO

is this a mission that is carried out daily/weekly/monthly/yearly/etc?
DAILY I GUESS

military relevant?
YES

Are anyone's professions relevant?
YES

People in this puzzle, 1,2,3,50, etc?
YES BUT YOU DO NOT NEED SPECIFIC NUMBERS

HAM's and HAF's?
HUMAN ADULT MALES AND FEMALES

Country of origin relevant?
YES

Time period?
YES - VERY RELEVANT
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 276
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 3:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the meal a byproduct of something else? Is its purpose to attract seagulls? Seagull eggs relevant? Does this happen in [LTPF list of centuries]? Navy relevent?
Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 5:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk,

Is the meal a byproduct of something else?
NO

Is its purpose to attract seagulls?
YES

Seagull eggs relevant?
NO

Does this happen in [LTPF list of centuries]?
20TH

Navy relevent?
YES
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 10:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wars relevant? WWI? II?
Is the mission to attract seagulls? Capture seagulls? Kill seagulls? Keep seagulls away from somewhere?
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Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 10:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk,

Wars relevant? WWI? II?
YES, WWII

Is the mission to attract seagulls?
YES AND NO

Capture seagulls? Kill seagulls? Keep seagulls away from somewhere?
NO
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 11:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Camouflage relevant? Airplanes? Radar?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 12:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the mission accomplished without seagulls this time? Or did they do what was required without being fed?
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 5:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

could you repeat the "mission" again and still be mission accomplished?

By the way could you put the answers in bold?
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Posted on Monday, October 26, 2009 - 10:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tommy, Galfish, Fleem

Camouflage relevant? Airplanes? Radar?
NO

Was the mission accomplished without seagulls this time?
NO

Or did they do what was required without being fed?
CORRECT

could you repeat the "mission" again and still be mission accomplished?
YES

By the way could you put the answers in bold?
I PREFER CAPS
Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 6:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the Seagulls being used as part of the mission? Were the Seagulls instrumental in accomplishing the mission? Could the mission have been accomplished without the Seagulls? Were the Seagulls trained in any way? Did the carry something? Messages? Ammo? Bombs? Did the Seagulls die in order to accomplish the mission? And therefore they were not fed?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 9:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the seagulls show up expecting a meal? How many seagulls are required to accomplish the mission: 1, 2+, 5+, 10+, 20+, 50+, 100+, 1000+?
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Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 5:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rubberduck,

Were the Seagulls being used as part of the mission? Were the Seagulls instrumental in accomplishing the mission?
YES, YES

Could the mission have been accomplished without the Seagulls?
PROBABLY NOT

Were the Seagulls trained in any way?
YES

Did they carry something? Messages? Ammo? Bombs?
NO

Did the Seagulls die in order to accomplish the mission? And therefore they were not fed?
NO, NO
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Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 5:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

GALFISK,

Did the seagulls show up expecting a meal?
YES

How many seagulls are required to accomplish the mission: 1, 2+, 5+, 10+, 20+, 50+, 100+, 1000+?
I DON'T KNOW - MAYBE 1 MAYBE 100
Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 7:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the Seagulls trained to catch fish? And not to eat the fish? Was the fish used to feed the Navy personnel?
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Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 8:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are any deaths involved? Humans? Fish? Seagulls? Other?
Is a specific country/city relevant?
Were the seagulls used as spies? Decoys?
Explosives relevant?
Was there no food for the seagulls the other times the mission was accomplished?
Was their flying put to advantage?
Could they have used other types of birds?
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Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 1:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rubberduck,

Were the Seagulls trained to catch fish?
NO (NOT EXACTLY OR DIRECTLY)

And not to eat the fish? Was the fish used to feed the Navy personnel?
NO - WRONG LINES
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Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 1:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

QUO,

Are any deaths involved? Humans? Fish? Seagulls? Other?
POTENTIALLY YES - HUMANS

Is a specific country/city relevant?
YES, NO

Were the seagulls used as spies?
LOOSELY YES

Decoys?
NO

Explosives relevant?
NO

Was there no food for the seagulls the other times the mission was accomplished?
AT FIRST NO LATER YES!

Was their flying put to advantage?
YES

Could they have used other types of birds?
YES
Ch33tah (Ch33tah)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the seagulls attack humans?
Did the seagulls see any enemy ships/buildings/.....?
If so, did they have cameras with them? ^^
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Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 10:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ch33

Did the seagulls attack humans?
NO

Did the seagulls see any enemy ships/buildings/.....?
YES, NO

If so, did they have cameras with them?
NO
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 10:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they at first train the seagulls by feeding them from boats, so that they should look for boats?
Was the idea that if seagulls flew close to enemy ships, the ships positions could easier be found through the seagulls?
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Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 11:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tommy,

Did they at first train the seagulls
YES

by feeding them from boats, so that they should look for boats?
VERY CLOSE

Was the idea that if seagulls flew close to enemy ships, the ships positions could easier be found through the seagulls?
YES ALMOST - VERY GOOD BUT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL NEEDED.
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Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 12:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they during training use boats that somehow looked like the enemy boats?
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Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 1:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they put radio trackers on the seagulls? So that they could follow them on a map?
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Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 3:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the mission that was accomplished this time the detection of enemy ship(s)? And that's why the seagulls didn't get a meal?
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Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 3:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tommy, Noel, Galfisk,

Did they during training use boats that somehow looked like the enemy boats?
YES - IN ONE REGARD

Did they put radio trackers on the seagulls? So that they could follow them on a map?
NO

Was the mission that was accomplished this time the detection of enemy ship(s)?
NO - BUT VERY CLOSE

And that's why the seagulls didn't get a meal?
CORRECT

HINT - A BOAT IS NOT A SHIP
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Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 3:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Detection of boats? Detection of submarines? Mines? Other enemy objects at sea?

I'm under the impression that reliable detection of subs was somewhat of a holy grail during WWII, this sounds like a kind of scheme that could very well have been tried.
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Galfisk,

Detection of boats? Detection of submarines?
YES - U-BOATS

BUT HOW EXACTLY?
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Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 5:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By feeding seagulls form u-boats (real or lookalike), making the seagulls associate the boats with food and congregate wherever they see one? Possibly specifically training them to home in on the u-boats underwater, by releasing the food through an airlock or torpedo lauch tube without surfacing?
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Galfisk,

By feeding seagulls from u-boats (real or lookalike), making the seagulls associate the boats with food and congregate wherever they see one?
CORRECT

Possibly specifically training them to home in on the u-boats underwater, by releasing the food through an airlock or torpedo lauch tube without surfacing?
NO - SIMPLER THAN THAT
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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 9:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they train the seagulls to recognize: The sight of an u-boat? The sound? The movement? When it does something specific, like resurfacing? Taking in air? Diving?
Were they specifically trained to associate only enemy u-boats with food?
was the accomplished mission: the detection of an enemy u-boat? The congregation of seagulls on the training boat even with no meal being served?
Were the seagulls fed from a real u-boat? Or from something that looked good enough?
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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 10:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk,

* * * SPOILER * * *

Did they train the seagulls to recognize: The sight of an u-boat? The sound? The movement? When it does something specific, like resurfacing? Taking in air? Diving?
Were they specifically trained to associate only enemy u-boats with food?

Yes. During WW2 there was concern that German U-boats might come up the Firth of Forth and attack the British naval base. So someone had the very lateral idea of training seagulls to spot them. They started by sailing toy boats with periscopes on which there were many sardines. Flocks of seagulls swooped down and learnt to associate periscopes with food. If flocks of seagulls were seen swooping onto the water then spotters looked for enemy submarines.
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Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 2:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cool story and fun puzzle (:

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