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Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
New member Username: Fleemco198
Post Number: 89 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 5:03 pm: |      |
A man found some cash. 5 hours later he died. this might be easy if you know a certain phrase |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 1338 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 5:12 pm: |      |
An English phrase? Like a proverb? Did he die as a result of finding the cash? He= the man? Would it work for 2 hours? 4? 6? 10? Did he die from natural causes? Was his death a murder? |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 374 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 5:13 pm: |      |
Cash = money? Paper money? Coins? Relevant what currency? Relevant what value? Exactly 5 hours? Could it be 4 hours? 6 hours? How did he die? Murder? Suicide? Accidental Causes? Fall? Poisoning? Drowning? Burning? Impact? Radiation? Are there any more people involved? He = a man? HAM? Alive and breathing? Location/Era/Profession/Age relevant? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 92 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 5:16 pm: |      |
An English phrase?(-this, but not really part of the puzzle, just it might help Like a proverb? Did he die as a result of finding the cash? indirectly He= the man? YES Would it work for 2 hours? 4? 6? 10? YES TO ALL Did he die from natural causes?NO Was his death a murder?NO |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 93 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 5:18 pm: |      |
Cash = money?This Paper money? Coins? and this Relevant what currency? Relevant what value? Exactly 5 hours? Could it be 4 hours? 6 hours? see above answer others later |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 95 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 8:37 pm: |      |
How did he die? that is part of the solution...sorry<:> Murder? Suicide? Accidental Causes? Fall? Poisoning? Drowning? Burning? Impact? Radiation? see above Are there any more people involved? Himself He = a man? HAM? Alive and breathing? yes till he dies Locationyes/Era/Profession/Age relevant?no to the rest |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 386 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 8:41 pm: |      |
So our solution is to find out what killed him? Physical Location? Political Location? If political: Asia? South America? Australia Continent (whatever it's called) Europe? Africa North America? |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 1341 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 8:48 pm: |      |
Does the phrase contain the words: cash? money? die? death? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
New member Username: Fleemco198
Post Number: 98 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 12:54 pm: |      |
So our solution is to find out what killed him? part of it is you want the what and the why Physical Location?(-this Political Location? If political: Asia? South America? Australia Continent (whatever it's called) Europe? Africa North America?None above Does the phrase contain the words: cash? money? die? death? no to all |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 402 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 2:08 pm: |      |
Physical location: Mountains? Bodies of Water? Forests? Deserts? Volcanoes? Jungles? Rainforests? Other? Is the above where he lives? Where he found the money? Relevant where he found the cash? Indoors? Outdoors? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 100 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 4:56 pm: |      |
Physical location: Mountains? Bodies of Water? Forests? Deserts? Volcanoes? Jungles? Rainforests? Other? city Is the above where he lives? Noish Where he found the money? no Relevant where he found the cash?NO |
Amosoya (Amosoya)
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Post Number: 12 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 7:58 pm: |      |
Did the man actually obtain the cash? Did he die in the process of trying to obtain the cash? |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 410 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 8:12 pm: |      |
Was the money physically impossible to pick up? Was the money in water? Was it placed on a hard surface? (Like a floor) Was it in a container? Is it relevant how it got there? Did someone deliberately put it there? Did someone accidentally drop it there? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 105 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 8:35 pm: |      |
Did the man actually obtain the cash? yes Did he die in the process of trying to obtain the cash?no Was the money physically impossible to pick up? no Was the money in water? Was it placed on a hard surface?(-this (Like a floor) Was it in a container? Is it relevant how it got there? noDid someone deliberately put it there? Did someone accidentally drop it there?this |
Amosoya (Amosoya)
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Post Number: 17 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 9:00 pm: |      |
Was the man on ice? Was he on pavement? Was he on a man-made floor? Was he on dirt? Was he inside a building? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 112 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 9:04 pm: |      |
Was the man on ice? Was he on pavement? yes Was he on a man-made floor? yes Was he on dirt? Was he inside a building?irr. |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 113 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 9:04 pm: |      |
sorry no to others |
Amosoya (Amosoya)
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Post Number: 18 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 9:18 pm: |      |
Did he die from impact with the pavement? Was he in Las Vegas? Chicago? New York City? Is the particular city relevant? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 116 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 9:24 pm: |      |
Did he die from impact with the pavement? no Was he in Las Vegas? irr. Chicago? irr. New York City? irr. Is the particular city relevant?no |
Amosoya (Amosoya)
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Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 9:30 pm: |      |
Did he spend any of the cash before dying? Did he gamble any of the cash? Did he give any of the cash to any other person? Did he use the physical cash for any purpose? Was the cash legal tender in the place where it was found? Was the cash likely to be more than a century old? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 117 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 9:34 pm: |      |
Did he spend any of the cash before dying? no Did he gamble any of the cash? no Did he give any of the cash to any other person?no Did he use the physical cash for any purpose? no Was the cash legal tender in the place where it was found?yes Was the cash likely to be more than a century old?no |
Amosoya (Amosoya)
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Post Number: 20 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 9:38 pm: |      |
Did the man commit suicide? Could this work with, "3 seconds later he was dead?" |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 118 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 9:41 pm: |      |
Did the man commit suicide? no Could this work with, "3 seconds later he was dead?" yes |
Amosoya (Amosoya)
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Post Number: 23 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 9:48 pm: |      |
Is it highly likely the man would have died if he had not found the cash? Did he find the cash using the sense of sight? Is this based on a real incident? |
Amosoya (Amosoya)
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Post Number: 24 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 9:49 pm: |      |
Did the money burn a hole in his pocket? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 379 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 11:44 am: |      |
Was he killed by: A person? An object? His surroundings? By accident? By himself? Weight of the money relevant? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 120 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 12:48 pm: |      |
Is it highly likely the man would have died if he had not found the cash? he would have been alive if he had not found the cash Did he find the cash using the sense of sight? yes Is this based on a real incident? it's possible. but i am unaware of this happening to a specific person. Did the money burn a hole in his pocket?no Was he killed by: A person? An object? (-this His surroundings? By accident? (-this By himself? Weight of the money relevant?no |
Amosoya (Amosoya)
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Post Number: 33 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 12:51 pm: |      |
Was he hit by a car? A train? Another type of vehicle? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 384 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 3:13 pm: |      |
Was he distracted by the cash? Did he die immediately after the accident? Or is the 6 hours time that elapsed between accident and death? Would it have worked with somehting other than money? Such as: Jewelry? Gemstones? Other valuables? Non-valuables, as long as he picked them up? Coin-shaped metal discs? |
Amosoya (Amosoya)
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Post Number: 38 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 3:35 pm: |      |
Random theory: is this a situation in which the few seconds it took the man to pick up the cash altered his schedule for the rest of the day such that he was involved in an accident that would not have occurred if he had just continued walking? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 122 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 4:44 pm: |      |
Was he hit by a car? A train? Another type of vehicle?none Was he distracted by the cash? noDid he die immediately after the accident?yes Or is the 6 hours time that elapsed between accident and death?the accident caused an immediate death. Would it have worked with somehting other than money? Such as: Jewelry? Gemstones? Other valuables? Non-valuables, as long as he picked them up? Coin-shaped metal discs? no Random theory: is this a situation in which the few seconds it took the man to pick up the cash altered his schedule for the rest of the day such that he was involved in an accident that would not have occurred if he had just continued walking?no remember it could take him more than just a few seconds to die. the original statement was 5 hrs. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 396 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 12:15 pm: |      |
Was the accident a result of his desire to use the money? Give it away? Find the original owner? Give it to the police? If he had won the money, could the same thing have happened? If he had been given it? If it had been transferred to his account? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 126 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 2:05 pm: |      |
Was the accident a result of his desire to use the money?no Give it away?no Find the original owner? noGive it to the police?no If he had won the money, could the same thing have happened?no If he had been given it?no If it had been transferred to his account?no |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 128 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 5:54 pm: |      |
Hint: it had to do with what coin specifically and placement of the coin. |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 204 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 6:06 am: |      |
Wild guess - Did he put the coin in his pocket, forget about it, go for an MRI scan or something and the magnetized coin ripped through his heart and killed him? (Probably scientifically inaccurate but what the hell :-D) |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Post Number: 485 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 12:10 pm: |      |
The coin: nickel? dime? guinea? penny? dollar? silver-dollar? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 139 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 5:53 pm: |      |
Wild guess - Did he put the coin in his pocket, forget about it, go for an MRI scan or something and the magnetized coin ripped through his heart and killed him? (Probably scientifically inaccurate but what the hell :-D)very nice and creative theory but that is .....not close. The coin: nickel? dime? guinea? penny? dollar? silver-dollar?penny |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Post Number: 489 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 10:28 pm: |      |
Did he put it under his tongue? |
Amosoya (Amosoya)
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Post Number: 50 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 10:46 pm: |      |
Was he walking on the pavement at the time he found the penny? Was it only one penny? Was the penny heads-up? Was it tails-up? Is it relevant which side was up? Is the important phrase, "A penny saved is a penny earned?" |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 419 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 11:36 pm: |      |
Would he not have had the accident hadn't he found the coin? Or would he have had it but not have died? Did he have the coin on him at the time of the accident? If so, relevant where on his body? Did the coin contribute directly to his death? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 420 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 11:37 pm: |      |
Vending machines relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1670 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 4:52 am: |      |
Is a joke or pun of some sort involved? Zinc? Copper? British penny? American? Some other country? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 146 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 5:48 pm: |      |
Did he put it under his tongue? no Was he walking on the pavement at the time he found the penny? yes Was it only one penny? yes Was the penny heads-up? no Was it tails-up? yes Is it relevant which side was up? Is the important phrase, "A penny saved is a penny earned?"no Would he not have had the accident hadn't he found the coin?yes Or would he have had it but not have died?the accident would not have happend if he hadn't found the coin Did he have the coin on him at the time of the accident?irr. If so, relevant where on his body?irr. Did the coin contribute directly to his death?yesish Vending machines relevant?no Is a joke or pun of some sort involved?no Zinc? Copper? British penny? American?(-this Some other country? |
Noel (Noel)
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Post Number: 1080 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 1:09 am: |      |
Is the superstition that tails-up pennies are bad luck relevant? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 160 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 6:11 pm: |      |
Is the superstition that tails-up pennies are bad luck relevant?there we go now your onto something...(yes) |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
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Post Number: 459 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 12:14 pm: |      |
Is he superstitious? Did he freak out when he saw the coin? Did he die from impact? By an object? Did he want to die? So this is what happened... Man picks up coin tail-side up ... 5 hours passed ... he is involved in an accident and dies. Is what he was doing in the five hours relevant? Was he in the same place when he found the money and when he died? Did he have the money on him when he died? Was it in his pockets? Relevant where he put it? Did he spend it? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 456 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 4:21 pm: |      |
Did he use it in a coin toss to decide something? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 166 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 4:03 pm: |      |
Is he superstitious? yes Did he freak out when he saw the coin? not immediatly Did he die from impact?yes By an object? yes Did he want to die? no So this is what happened... Man picks up coin tail-side up ... 5 hours passed ... he is involved in an accident and dies. Is what he was doing in the five hours relevant? yesish Was he in the same place when he found the money and when he died?no Did he have the money on him when he died?irr. Was it in his pockets?no Relevant where he put it?no Did he spend it?no Did he use it in a coin toss to decide something?no |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 1717 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:23 pm: |      |
Was he hit by a car while retrieving the money? Was it dangerous to retrieve the money? He is the only person relevant? Was he alone? Was anyone watching him? Is the general location (urban, rural, etc) relevant? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 198 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 2:04 pm: |      |
Was he hit by a car while retrieving the money?no Was it dangerous to retrieve the money?for him yes He is the only person relevant?yes Was he alone?yes Was anyone watching him?no Is the general location (urban, rural, etc) relevant?uh...urban (that is city, right?) |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
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Post Number: 514 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 2:21 pm: |      |
Poison relevant? Gas relevant? Water? Another liquid? Drugs/Medicine? Would it be dangerous for someone else to retrieve it? Was something impaired physically that made it dangerous for him to retrieve the coin (like he had broken a bone or he was very weak)? Could he not swim? Did he try and get the money even though it was dangerous? Did he know it was dangerous? Could he have gotten injured? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 202 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 5:59 pm: |      |
Poison relevant? no Gas relevant? Water? Another liquid? Drugs/Medicine? all no Would it be dangerous for someone else to retrieve it? if they had the same problem as he did. (he is supersititious, read up) Was something impaired physically that made it dangerous for him to retrieve the coin (like he had broken a bone or he was very weak)? no, perfectly healthy Could he not swim? he could swim Did he try and get the money even though it was dangerous? he did not know the risk until after he picked up the coin and looked at it closely Did he know it was dangerous?see above Could he have gotten injured?he did sometime after he picked up the coin that's why he died |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 480 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 1:20 am: |      |
Did he die because ha acted on his superstition? Did he get rid of the coin? If so, relevant how? If not, did he try? Did he do something else that was meant to mitigate bad luck? If so, is that was caused his death? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 213 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 5:41 pm: |      |
Did he die because ha acted on his superstition?yes Did he get rid of the coin?irr. If so, relevant how? If not, did he try?yes Did he do something else that was meant to mitigate bad luck?yes If so, is that was caused his death?he got crushed |
Noel (Noel)
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Post Number: 1134 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 5:56 pm: |      |
Did he pick up the coin first and then try to mitigate his bad luck? Or did he try to mitigate his bad luck and then pick up the coin? If the latter, did he try to flip the coin heads up before he picked it up? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 215 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 6:13 pm: |      |
Did he pick up the coin first and then try to mitigate his bad luck? (-this Or did he try to mitigate his bad luck and then pick up the coin? If the latter, did he try to flip the coin heads up before he picked it up? |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
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Post Number: 532 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 8:08 pm: |      |
Did he try and destroy the coin? To burn it? To blow it up? Did he try to get rid of it? To drop it? To throw it? To swallow it... Roads relevant? Motorways relevant? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 488 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 2:26 pm: |      |
Railroads relevant? Was he hit by something? A train? Was something dropped on top of him? A 16 ton weight? =) Was he crushed by something which was meant for crushing stuff? Like a car crusher? Or garbage compactor? Was the crushing from high speed impact? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 223 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 5:52 pm: |      |
Did he try and destroy the coin?no To burn it?no To blow it up? Did he try to get rid of it?(-this To drop it? To throw it? To swallow it... Roads relevant? Motorways relevant?none relev. Railroads relevant? Was he hit by something? A train? Was something dropped on top of him? (-this, but not dropped, it just fell on him A 16 ton weight? =) lol, no Was he crushed by something which was meant for crushing stuff? Like a car crusher? Or garbage compactor? Was the crushing from high speed impact?none |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 519 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 1:54 pm: |      |
Did the object that fell on him: fall over? Fall down? Was it a vehicle? Did he cause it to fall? Did he want it to fall? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 249 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 5:54 pm: |      |
Did the object that fell on him: fall over? Fall down?(-this Was it a vehicle?no Did he cause it to fall?yes Did he want it to fall?no |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 554 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 8:47 pm: |      |
Is the object that fell on him bigger than: a marble? A coin? A football? A chair? A car? Bus? Airplane? Ship? Was he killed primarily because: the weight of the object? The speed? Sharpness or similar? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 260 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 23, 2009 - 5:55 pm: |      |
Is the object that fell on him bigger than: a marble? A coin? A football? A chair?(-bigger than this/smaller than this-) A car? Bus? Airplane? Ship? Was he killed primarily because: the weight of the object?(-this The speed? Sharpness or similar? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 569 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 11:11 am: |      |
Did he intend for the object to fall? Did it fall straight down? Did it fall: less than a meter? More than two? Five? Ten? Fifty? Was it him acting at his superstition that caused the object to fall? Rube Goldberg-like event relevant? |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
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Post Number: 654 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 7:50 am: |      |
Was the object made of... Plastic? Metal? A liquid? Wood? Glass? A gas? Paper? Stone? Brick? Fabric? |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Post Number: 678 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 1:52 pm: |      |
After picking up, he did something special, right? to mitigate the bad look he thought he could get from the coin? but this caused an object to fall? which killed him? Was what he did directly causing the object to fall? or was it a chain-of-events? |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Post Number: 716 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 10:58 pm: |      |
I meant "mitigate the bad luck"... |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 279 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 9:33 pm: |      |
Did he intend for the object to fall?no Did it fall straight down?yes Did it fall: less than a meter?no More than two?yes Five? Ten?this is about right Fifty? Was it him acting at his superstition that caused the object to fall?no Rube Goldberg-like event relevant????? Was the object made of... Plastic? Metal?(-this A liquid? Wood? Glass? A gas? Paper? Stone? Brick? Fabric? After picking up, he did something special, right? to mitigate the bad look he thought he could get from the coin?right but this caused an object to fall? which killed him? no Was what he did directly causing the object to fall? or was it a chain-of-events?nither |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 675 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 12:51 pm: |      |
Was he under the object when it started falling? Did it freefall? Did he see it? Try to get away? Final Destination-like improbable events relevant? Was the object suspended? Was it being lifted/hoisted? Did this happen at a construction site? Is the object a weight? counterweight? Would it fall down like it did during normal use? does this happen: inside? Outside? Underground? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 281 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 4:38 pm: |      |
Was he under the object when it started falling?yes Did it freefall?explian Did he see it?once it was falling Try to get away?yes, but couldn't Final Destination-like improbable events relevant? no, this is a real life problem Was the object suspended?no Was it being lifted/hoisted? noDid this happen at a construction site?no Is the object a weight?no counterweight?no Would it fall down like it did during normal use? yes does this happen: inside? Outside?(-this Underground? |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Post Number: 754 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 4:42 pm: |      |
So the object was *supposed* to fall down? but he wasn't supposed to be there? Ladders relevant? spitting? cats? Was the object supposed to fall down repeatedly? was it hanging in a chain or something? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
New member Username: Fleemco198
Post Number: 284 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 5:17 pm: |      |
So the object was *supposed* to fall down?no but he wasn't supposed to be there? he could be there. Ladders relevant?yes spitting? cats? Was the object supposed to fall down repeatedly? was it hanging in a chain or something?niether |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Post Number: 756 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 5:38 pm: |      |
Did someone climb up a ladder? did he avoid walking under a ladder? You said that it would fall down like it did during normal use? but anyway wasn't supposed to fall? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 285 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 9:27 pm: |      |
Did someone climb up a ladder?yes did he avoid walking under a ladder? no You said that it would fall down like it did during normal use?yes but anyway wasn't supposed to fall?yes |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 286 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 9:29 pm: |      |
my bad i get it now*correction* You said that it would fall down like it did during normal use?no, it should not have fallen down... |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 703 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 1:12 am: |      |
Did it fall on him while he was climbing the ladder? Did the ladder itself fall? Was he climbing the ladder to: get somewhere? Get away from somewhere? Is he climbing up? Down? If he hadn't found the coin, would he: not be there in the first place? Be there but not on the ladder? Or just not caused the object to fall? |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Post Number: 790 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 8:40 am: |      |
Or did someone else climb a ladder? and drop "it"? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
New member Username: Fleemco198
Post Number: 289 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 5:46 pm: |      |
Did it fall on him while he was climbing the ladder?no Did the ladder itself fall?yes Was he climbing the ladder to: get somewhere?no Get away from somewhere?no Is he climbing up? Down? no If he hadn't found the coin, would he: not be there in the first place? Be there but not on the ladder? Or just not caused the object to fall?(-this Or did someone else climb a ladder? and drop "it"?niether |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Post Number: 827 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 8:07 pm: |      |
Was he hit by the ladder? or something the falling ladder in turn got to fall? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 291 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 9:25 pm: |      |
Was he hit by the ladder?yes or something the falling ladder in turn got to fall?no |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Post Number: 829 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 9:34 pm: |      |
Did the hit by the ladder kill him? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 292 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 9:20 pm: |      |
Did the hit by the ladder kill him?yes |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Post Number: 884 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 9:28 pm: |      |
What's left? Why the ladder fell? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 293 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 6:18 pm: |      |
What's left? Why the ladder fell?yes then put it all together |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Post Number: 961 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 6:26 pm: |      |
Did he cause the ladder to fall? someone else? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 777 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 6:29 pm: |      |
Was the ladder: a normal ladder leaned against something? A vertical ladder fastened on something? A rope ladder? Stepladder? Did the ladder: slip? Come loose? Fall over? Fall apart? Did he put the ladder there? Did he move it? Damage it? |
Probably_monty_hall (Probably_monty_hall)
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Post Number: 109 Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 6:29 pm: |      |
Is it relevant that walking under a ladder is considered bad luck? Did the man think that a 2nd "bad luck" act would negate the first (2 wrongs make a right - type thing)? So he intentionally walked under the ladder? Did the man do anything with the penny near the ladder? Under it? There was a different man up on the ladder, right? Did the man up on the ladder do something which caused the ladder to fall? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 296 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 6:07 pm: |      |
Did he cause the ladder to fall?yes someone else?no Was the ladder: a normal ladder leaned against something? A vertical ladder fastened on something? A rope ladder? Stepladder? it is a ladder that has two sides and is held together by a flexible bar hinge in the middle... Did the ladder: slip?noish Come loose?yesish Fall over?no. Fall apart?yes, but only a part of it did. Did he put the ladder there?no Did he move it?no Damage it?no Is it relevant that walking under a ladder is considered bad luck? not really it was just suppose to be a hint that the penny had to do with superstition... Did the man think that a 2nd "bad luck" act would negate the first (2 wrongs make a right - type thing)? So he intentionally walked under the ladder? no Did the man do anything with the penny near the ladder?no Under it? no There was a different man up on the ladder, right?yes but irr. Did the man up on the ladder do something which caused the ladder to fall?no |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 859 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 12:25 pm: |      |
So the man walked under a stepladder (that's the name of this type of ladder), the bar hinge fell apart and the ladder collapsed on top of him, killing him? Did he cause the ladder to collapse there and then? Or did it collapse because of something he had done earlier? Was it his ladder? If he hadn't found the penny: would he have avoided walking under the ladder? Or would he walk under it but not cause the collapse? Did he cause the collapse by trying to get away from under the ladder? By trying to avoid walking under it? Was the ladder unsafe and he simply bumped the wrong part at the wrong time causing it to collapse? |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 306 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 9:28 pm: |      |
So the man walked under a stepladder (that's the name of this type of ladder), the bar hinge fell apart and the ladder collapsed on top of him, killing him? this is correct Did he cause the ladder to collapse there and then?yes Or did it collapse because of something he had done earlier? Was it his ladder? niether If he hadn't found the penny: would he have avoided walking under the ladder?(-this Or would he walk under it but not cause the collapse? Did he cause the collapse by trying to get away from under the ladder? By trying to avoid walking under it?niether Was the ladder unsafe and he simply bumped the wrong part at the wrong time causing it to collapse?(-this keep putting it together.... |
Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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Post Number: 315 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - 5:58 pm: |      |
Fine............ *******SPOILED*************** A superstitious man found a penny, but as he was of bad sight, he did not see that the penny was tails up until he had picked it up, therefore he tried to mitigate his luck, but nothing (that I could find) says that you can mitigate bad luck brought on by a penny. Some time had passed,and as he thought that he had mitigated his bad luck, he walked into a ladder, due to a factory defect, the bar hinge broke killing him. |