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Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1212 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 6:22 pm: |      |
They are much safer this way. Let's just hope the monkey doesn't get thirsty! |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 761 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 6:23 pm: |      |
Title relevant? Are "they" human? animals? "Monkey" = real monkey? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1216 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 6:28 pm: |      |
Title relevant? no, just that Curious George is a monkey Are "they" human? no animals? yes "Monkey" = real monkey? yes |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 763 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 6:51 pm: |      |
Are "they" now in water? weren't they before? were they in water, but not close to George? Are "they" fish? other animals living under water? other animals living in water? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1219 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 7:04 pm: |      |
Are "they" now in water? yes weren't they before? no, they weren't were they in water, but not close to George? no Are "they" fish? no other animals living under water? yes other animals living in water? so yes |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 765 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 7:12 pm: |      |
So they live and breath under water all the time? but they somehow survived before, without being in water? were they just eggs? or do they surface to breathe? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1223 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 7:20 pm: |      |
So they live and breath under water all the time? Yope. Yes during the time frame of this puzzle. but they somehow survived before, without being in water? yes were they just eggs? yesish or do they surface to breathe? they can |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 770 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 7:28 pm: |      |
Frogs relevant? Periophthalmus? lizards? insects? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1228 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 9:36 pm: |      |
Frogs relevant? this one Periophthalmus? lizards? insects? |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 781 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 10:01 pm: |      |
Grown-up frogs? or tadpoles? Are they moved for their safety? or is that just an excuse someone has? Relevant who thinks/utters the puzzle statement? Is this in a zoo? animal farm? lab? relevant? Is it relevant where the frogs/tadpoles are moved to? Is it possible for George to get to the water (with frogs/tadpoles)? and drink it? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1231 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 1:14 am: |      |
Grown-up frogs? or tadpoles? this one Are they moved for their safety? yes or is that just an excuse someone has? Relevant who thinks/utters the puzzle statement? no. You could rewrite the statement as "if the monkey gets thirsty, it will be bad for the tadpole" Is this in a zoo? animal farm? lab? none of the above relevant? yes Is it relevant where the frogs/tadpoles are moved to? yes Is it possible for George to get to the water (with frogs/tadpoles)? yes and drink it?yes |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1232 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 1:27 am: |      |
CORRECTION: Are they moved for their safety? Yope |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 791 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 8:45 am: |      |
Is the monkey just a pet? or filling a function? Are there more monkeys at the site? other animals (not counting tadpoles and insects)? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1236 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 12:46 pm: |      |
Is the monkey just a pet? no or filling a function? no Are there more monkeys at the site? probably. Let's just say that George is the closest one. other animals (not counting tadpoles and insects)? probably |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 798 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 1:11 pm: |      |
Is it out in the wild? Relevant on which continent? which country? The person who moves the tadpoles - one person? more? HAF? relevant who it is? Does the "mover" care about what happens to the tadpoles? or is the idea more to get them out of the way? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1241 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 2:36 pm: |      |
Is it out in the wild? yes Relevant on which continent? yes which country? no The person who moves the tadpoles - one person? FA more? H no AF? yes relevant who it is? yes Does the "mover" care about what happens to the tadpoles? yes, for svv of "care" or is the idea more to get them out of the way? no |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 812 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 3:02 pm: |      |
Is the FA that no-one really moved the tadpoles? they swam somewhere themselves? or that they were moved by an animal? the AF - Adult Frog (;-))? their mother? Does Mother Frog move the tadpoles in her mouth? to another place? In North America? South America? Europe? Africa? Australia? Asia? Antarctic? Polar monkeys and frozen frog's legs... |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1243 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 3:12 pm: |      |
Is the FA that no-one really moved the tadpoles? they swam somewhere themselves? or that they were moved by an animal? The FA is that they were moved by a person. No people are involved the AF - Adult Frog (;-))? haha, yes their mother? yes Does Mother Frog move the tadpoles in her mouth? actually on her back. irrel to another place? yes. Btw, it's not really important where she moves them from, so I'll just tell you. This species of frog (please, no googling! you don't have to figure out what species it is, anyway.) lays its eggs on the underside of a leaf. So after they hatch into tadpoles, the mother has to move them to water. In North America? South America? this, and also Central America Europe? Africa? Australia? Asia? Antarctic? Polar monkeys and frozen frog's legs... =) |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 721 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 4:09 pm: |      |
Was the danger to the tadpoles death by monkey before were moved? If so, was the monkey eating the leaves? Or just climbing around among them? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1249 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 4:57 pm: |      |
Was the danger to the tadpoles death by monkey before were moved? no |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 825 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 5:36 pm: |      |
Were they not just moved, as you wrote, because they had to get into water? and the interesting thing here is that she didn't move them to any ordinary puddle in the jungle? but to someplace where monkeys gather? and may think of drinking the water? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1250 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 5:56 pm: |      |
Were they not just moved, as you wrote, because they had to get into water? and the interesting thing here is that she didn't move them to any ordinary puddle in the jungle? Yes but to someplace where monkeys gather? and may think of drinking the water? All correct |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 826 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 8:04 pm: |      |
Did the monkeys gather at a place now used by humans? or a place previously used by humans? like an old temple? a ruin? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1253 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 8:37 pm: |      |
Did the monkeys gather at a place now used by humans? or a place previously used by humans? like an old temple? a ruin? no to all |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 828 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 8:45 pm: |      |
Is it just a coincidence that the monkeys are gathering at this specific place? or is there something "special" at the place, making the monkeys like it? a natural rock formation? a waterfall? a pond that somehow is special? something nice is growing there? it's the best place to find food? to find good water? to find tasty frogs? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1255 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 9:11 pm: |      |
Is it just a coincidence that the monkeys are gathering at this specific place? Yes and no. Depends on how you define the place. or is there something "special" at the place, making the monkeys like it? yope a natural rock formation? no a waterfall? a pond that somehow is special? no something nice is growing there? yope it's the best place to find food? no to find good water? no, but... to find tasty frogs? haha, no This set of questions is very hard to answer. I hope I have not misled. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 734 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 12:26 am: |      |
Were they in danger of death from other animal before? Death from falling? Death from plant? Weather? Or not death but injury? Of getting lost? Is this particular body of water safer from the original danger than other bodies of water? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1258 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 1:13 am: |      |
Were they in danger of death from other animal before? before what? before it was moved to the water? No. However, the relevant danger was death from animal. Death from falling? Death from plant? Weather? Or not death but injury? Of getting lost?None of these. Is this particular body of water safer from the original danger than other bodies of water? yes |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 832 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 6:18 am: |      |
Is it something special with this water? especially warm? especially cool? something living in the water? good for monkey swimming? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1263 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 12:38 pm: |      |
Is it something special with this water? yope especially warm? especially cool? something living in the water? other than the tadpole? no good for monkey swimming? no to rest |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 838 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 12:54 pm: |      |
Is the water "body" just a small puddle? a pond? a small lake? not a natural water body at all? Is the water contained in something (other than ground beneath, which would be the case for puddles/ponds/lakes)? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1267 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 2:35 pm: |      |
Is the water "body" just a small puddle? yesish a pond? a small lake? not a natural water body at all? none of these Is the water contained in something (other than ground beneath, which would be the case for puddles/ponds/lakes)? yes |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 843 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 2:42 pm: |      |
So it is a natural "water body"? but not just in a hole in the ground? and it's small? <10 liters? <50 liters? <200 liters? more? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1269 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 2:45 pm: |      |
So it is a natural "water body"? it is a small amount of water that occurs naturally, but it's not really a water body but not just in a hole in the ground? right and it's small? <10 liters? <50 liters? up to 5 gallons (so up to ~20 liters, roughly?) <200 liters? more? |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 845 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 2:48 pm: |      |
Is the water contained in some plant? a growing plant? dead? Something like a calabash? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1270 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 4:01 pm: |      |
Is the water contained in some plant? yes a growing plant? yes dead?no Something like a calabash? no note: you don't have to figure out what the plant is. |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 846 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 4:15 pm: |      |
So the frog moves the tadpole(s) to a few gallons of water contained in a living plant, and that's quite OK if not the nearby monkeys drink the water with the tadpoles in it? What's to find out? why the monkeys are there? why they would drink water from that particular plant? how many mistresses did Tiger Woods have? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1273 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 6:34 pm: |      |
So the frog moves the tadpole(s) to a few gallons of water contained in a living plant, yes and that's quite OK better than ok, it's safer this way than... if not the nearby monkeys drink the water with the tadpoles in it? yes What's to find out? see below why the monkeys are there? sort of why they would drink water from that particular plant? sort of how many mistresses did Tiger Woods have? this is not the kind of puzzle where the answer changes daily. You're very nearly finished. What's left to find out: (1) Why it's "safer this way" and (2) why the monkeys are a likely danger; there's one thing left to figure out about the plant. |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 851 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 6:47 pm: |      |
Are the monkeys only a danger if they get thirsty? or can them rummaging around likely spill the water? Is the plant high? so high that the monkeys can climb it? relevant? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1278 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 9:02 pm: |      |
Are the monkeys only a danger if they get thirsty? yes, mostly or can them rummaging around likely spill the water? but I suppose this is also likely to be true Is the plant high? yes so high that the monkeys can climb it? they can't climb the plant itself, but... relevant? yes |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 858 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 10:25 pm: |      |
Is it a climbing plant? a plant that grows on trees? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 749 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, December 04, 2009 - 11:46 pm: |      |
Is it "safer this way" because it's safe from predators? Which would live in other bodies of water? Or have easy access to them? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1284 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 2:13 am: |      |
Is it a climbing plant? no a plant that grows on trees? yes Is it "safer this way" because it's safe from predators? yes Which would live in other bodies of water? yes Or have easy access to them? Let's call this one done, folks. All that's really left is to put it all together. So...****SPOILER**** Most frogs lay their eggs in a body of water, they hatch there, and remain there while they're tadpoles. Water is essential for tadpoles because they breathe through gills until their lungs mature. However, lots of fish and other predators live in the water, so it's not a very safe place to be as a tadpole. As a result, most frogs lay a lot of eggs in the water. The strawberry poison dart frog, however, uses a different ecological strategy. It's one of the few species of frogs that exhibit parental care of their young. The frogs lay their eggs on the underside of a leaf, and the parents tend the eggs until they hatch into tadpoles. Then, one at a time, the mother carries a tadpole on her back, climbs way up to the treetops, and deposits it into the water collected in a plant called a tank bromeliad. The evolutionary advantage of this adaptation is that there aren't generally tadpole predators up in the treetops. However, a lot of animals in the tree tops, including monkeys, use the tank bromeliad water as drinking water. It makes a lot of sense for monkeys to do so, because the trees in the rain forest are very, very tall, and it would require a lot of effort for monkeys to climb to the ground and back up every time they needed water. The frog mother goes to such extreme lengths to carry her tadpole to the predator-free safety of a tank bromeliad. I've always thought it would be unfortunate if a thirsty monkey slurped the tadpole up accidentally with its drinking water after all that effort! |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 867 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 8:14 am: |      |
It sure would. Fortunately, in this puzzle, a Red Bull-sponsored Energy Drink Dispenser was installed in the tree tops and every one lived happily ever after. Thanks for the puzzle! |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1934 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 4:18 am: |      |
This is a good one. I like your biology-based puzzles a lot, and look forward to more! |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1327 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 07, 2009 - 12:09 pm: |      |
Thank you Jen! I'll keep my eye out for more instances of evolution taking a lateral leap =) |