| Author | Message | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1648 Registered: 11-2008 |
"Why are you suing me? You persuaded me to do it!" | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1117 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is "Why are you suing me" said by one person, and "You persuaded me to do it" by another? Or is the whole puzzle statement said by the same person? Is someone barefoot? Is it foul-smelling? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1118 Registered: 3-2006 |
I've just realised that I've been rather stupid, somehow my brain was stuck on the meaning of 'it' as referring to the act of suing, so couldn't comprehend how both sentences could be within the same quotation marks. Thankfully, I now see the light... Is the speaker HAM? Is the person he is speaking to HAM? Is this person actually suing the speaker? Did he actually persuade the speaker to do it? directly? indirectly? This thing that the speaker did that he is being sued for--does it harm the suer physically? financially? psychologically? (Or perhaps, Jim and Fred have made up, and Jim is now helping Fred sue Mike for the tattoo? =P ) | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1649 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is "Why are you suing me" said by one person, and "You persuaded me to do it" by another? Or is the whole puzzle statement said by the same person? This Is someone barefoot? Yes Is it foul-smelling? Yes, but beware a FA | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1650 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the speaker HAM? Yes Is the person he is speaking to HAM? Yes, beware a FA Is this person actually suing the speaker? Yes, beware a FA Did he actually persuade the speaker to do it? Yes, beware a FA directly? This indirectly? This thing that the speaker did that he is being sued for--does it harm the suer physically? Mostly this financially? but also this psychologically? and this, too (Or perhaps, Jim and Fred have made up, and Jim is now helping Fred sue Mike for the tattoo? =P )Great idea :-)) but No. | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 665 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is the person he is speaking to suing on behalf of someone else? A corporation? A government? Class actions relevant? Is he speaking to more than one person? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1652 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the person he is speaking to suing on behalf of someone else? A corporation? A government? Class actions relevant? Is he speaking to more than one person? This | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 667 Registered: 5-2009 |
Relevant that they are all M? The persons he speaks to - do they frequently act together? Are all of them suing? Did all of them persuade him? Are they all harmed physically? financially? psychologically? Is the speaker barefoot? One of the persons he speaks to? All of them? Is there anything literally foul-smelling? Or is there a metaphorical smell to something? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2120 Registered: 5-2003 |
Are they enemies? Were they friends? Is someone barefoot and pregnant? Is the foul smell of a person, or part of one? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1655 Registered: 11-2008 |
Relevant that they are all M? Technically, any of them could be F; however psychologically it is more likely they all were M The persons he speaks to - do they frequently act together? Yes Are all of them suing? Assume yes Did all of them persuade him? Assume yes Are they all harmed physically? Assume yes financially? Assume yes psychologically? Assume yes Is the speaker barefoot? No One of the persons he speaks to? All of them? Not at the moment, but... Is there anything literally foul-smelling? Not at the moment, but... Or is there a metaphorical smell to something? No | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2124 Registered: 5-2003 |
Are they enemies? Were they friends? Is someone barefoot and pregnant? Is the foul smell of a person, or part of one? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1658 Registered: 11-2008 |
Are they enemies? No Were they friends? Not exactly but they used to have rather friendly feelings to each other Is someone barefoot and pregnant? LOL, no ;-)) Is the foul smell of a person This, or part of one? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2126 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the foul smeller the suer? The suee? Someone else? If so, do they smell foul during this conversation? At some other relevant time? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1660 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the foul smeller the suer? Yes; we have already established there are more of them The suee? No Someone else? No If so, do they smell foul during this conversation? No At some other relevant time? Yes | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1089 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the foul smell: of sweat/general uncleanliness? Foul-smelling substance on body or in clothes? Bad breath? Bad body odor or breath as a consequence of ingesting something causing it? Tellurium breath relevant? Garlic breath? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1662 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the foul smell: of sweat No/general uncleanliness? If you mean insufficient personal hygiene, than no Foul-smelling substance on body or in clothes? Yes Bad breath? Bad body odor or breath as a consequence of ingesting something causing it? Tellurium breath relevant? Garlic breath? No to rest | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 670 Registered: 5-2009 |
Were they barefoot at the same time as they were foul-smelling? Did they suffer another kind of harm for the same reason that made them barefoot and foul-smelling? Do they sue because of the events that caused them to be barefoot and foul-smelling? Tourism relevant? Sports? Transportation? Natural disasters? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1666 Registered: 11-2008 |
Were they barefoot at the same time as they were foul-smelling? Approximately, yes; there might have been a small time difference (within minutes) which is not really relevant Did they suffer another kind of harm for the same reason that made them barefoot and foul-smelling? We have already established that they suffered physical, psychological, and financial harm Do they sue because of the events that caused them to be barefoot and foul-smelling? Yes Tourism relevant? Sports? Transportation? Natural disasters? Neither | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1091 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the foul-smelling substance: organic? Manmade? Natural? Is it an industrial (by)product? Is it manure? Sewage? Did they remove their footwear? Or did they not put on any in the first place? Wading relevant? Was this an unforeseen consequence of what they convinced him to do? Or a foreseeable consequence? Was it intentional? Relevant how many they are? If so, more than: 2? 5? 10? 100? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1668 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the foul-smelling substance: organic? Yes Manmade? Natural? Yes Is it an industrial (by)product? No Is it manure? Sewage? Neither Did they remove their footwear? Yes Or did they not put on any in the first place? No Wading relevant? No Was this an unforeseen consequence of what they convinced him to do? Yes indeedOr a foreseeable consequence? It was not entirely impossible to foresee it Was it intentional? No Relevant how many they are? Only roughly If so, more than: 2? 5? 10? Any number up to, say, 15 would do 100? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1093 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did they remove their footwear before they got smelly? After? Is the smelly substance: a gas? Liquid? Goo? Solid? Did they fall into it? Get it over them? Agriculture relevant? Was the smelly substance accidentally released? Or on purpose? If so, did he do it? A dare involved? Or a bet? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1671 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did they remove their footwear before they got smelly? Assume this After? Also possible; the difference was so small it is really irrelevant Is the smelly substance: a gas? No Liquid? Possibly Goo? Possibly Solid? Not likely Did they fall into it? No Get it over them? Sort of Agriculture relevant? No Was the smelly substance accidentally released? This is closest Or on purpose? No If so, did he do it? No A dare involved? Noish Or a bet? No | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1672 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did they remove their footwear before they got smelly? Assume this After? Also possible; the difference was so small it is really irrelevant Is the smelly substance: a gas? No Liquid? Possibly Goo? Possibly Solid? Not likely Did they fall into it? No Get it over them? Sort of Agriculture relevant? No Was the smelly substance accidentally released? This is closest Or on purpose? No If so, did he do it? No A dare involved? Noish Or a bet? No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1094 Registered: 9-2009 |
Puking relevant? Is the smelly substance puke? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1673 Registered: 11-2008 |
Puking relevant? Yes Is the smelly substance puke? Bingo! | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1095 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does he puke on them? They puke on each other? Puke chain reaction relevant? Ingestion of something relevant? If so: alcohol? Excessive amounts of food? Something gross? Something specifically puke-inducing? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1678 Registered: 11-2008 |
Does he puke on them? No They puke on each other? No Puke chain reaction relevant? No Ingestion of something relevant? If so: alcohol? Yesish Excessive amounts of food? Something gross? Something specifically puke-inducing? No to the rest | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1098 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does someone else puke on them? If so, more than one? Or do they go somewhere where there is already puke? Did it happen at a party? A specific alcoholic drink involved? If so: is it tainted? Spoiled? Badly made? Does he provide the alcohol? Relevant who the puker(s) are? And how many? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1693 Registered: 11-2008 |
Does someone else puke on them? No If so, more than one? No Or do they go somewhere where there is already puke? No Did it happen at a party? Noish A specific alcoholic drink involved? No, just alcohol in general If so: is it tainted? Spoiled? Badly made? Neither Does he provide the alcohol? No and irr Relevant who the puker(s) are? Yes And how many? Yes | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1104 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did they puke on themselves? Or are there more people involved? Did he cause them to puke? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1695 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did they puke on themselves? Yes Or are there more people involved? No Did he cause them to puke? Yes | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1106 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did they puke because they drank too much? Because he did something gross? Because he puked? A contest involved? Drinking game? Relevant where they were at the moment? Relevant if they were used to drinking? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1699 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did they puke because they drank too much? No with a tiny-ish Because he did something gross? No Because he puked? No A contest involved? No Drinking game? No Relevant where they were at the moment? Yes Relevant if they were used to drinking? No | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1491 Registered: 7-2009 |
Altitude sickness relevant? sea sickness? other motion sickness? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1700 Registered: 11-2008 |
Altitude sickness relevant? No sea sickness? other motion sickness? Motion sickness, or kinetosis, is indeed involved; as I am not an expert I would not dare tell whether it can be classified as sea sickness | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1107 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do they: sway? Spin? Rock? Bounce? Experience zero gravity? Playground equipment relevant? Amusement rides? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1702 Registered: 11-2008 |
Do they: sway? Spin? This Rock? Bounce? Experience zero gravity? Playground equipment relevant? Amusement rides? This | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1108 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was he the ride operator? Did they convince him to run it: faster? Longer? In a more extreme fashion? Did they take off their shoes before getting on the ride? While on the ride? Did they lose them because of the motion of the ride? Were they trying to see how far they could fling their shoes from the ride? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1706 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was he the ride operator? Yes Did they convince him to run it: faster? Longer? Neither In a more extreme fashion? No Did they take off their shoes before getting on the ride? No While on the ride? This Did they lose them because of the motion of the ride? No Were they trying to see how far they could fling their shoes from the ride? No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1109 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did they convince him to: let them on? To run it when he shouldn't have/didn't want to? Is the reason they had to convince him important? Is the reason they took of their shoes important? Is the type of ride important? Did they all puke? Or did the ones that puked sue him? Important exactly what sort of ride this was? Was it with a traveling carnival? Or was it a permanent installation? In an amusement park? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1707 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did they convince him to: let them on? Yes To run it when he shouldn't have/didn't want to? Yes Is the reason they had to convince him important? Yesish Is the reason they took of their shoes important? Yes Is the type of ride important? Yes Did they all puke? Yes Or did the ones that puked sue him? Assume all of them puked and all of them sued him Important exactly what sort of ride this was? If you mean the following three questions, then the answer is Not really Was it with a traveling carnival? Yes Or was it a permanent installation? In an amusement park? But it would have worked the same if it was either of the latter | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1492 Registered: 7-2009 |
Was it a roller coaster? A ride that rocks back and forth (like a pirate ship ride)? A ride that spins vertically in a large circle? A ride that spins horizontally in a large circle? A ride in which individual ride cars spin in small circles (e.g. tilt-a-whirl or the teacup ride)? Is it one of those rides that the floor drops out of but everyone stays stuck to the wall because the ride spins so quickly (this would make the most sense for taking off shoes, I guess, and would also be one of the least pleasant in the event of vomit, I think)? Is it a ride that primarily bounces people up and down? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1709 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was it a roller coaster? No A ride that rocks back and forth (like a pirate ship ride) No? A ride that spins vertically in a large circle? No A ride that spins horizontally in a large circle? This A ride in which individual ride cars spin in small circles (e.g. tilt-a-whirl or the teacup ride)? No Is it one of those rides that the floor drops out of but everyone stays stuck to the wall because the ride spins so quickly (this would make the most sense for taking off shoes, I guess, and would also be one of the least pleasant in the event of vomit, I think)? No Is it a ride that primarily bounces people up and down? No | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1121 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did he refuse to let them on because they were drunk? But they insisted, and eventually he relented? They then threw up on the ride, and sued him because he had let them on when they had been in no condition to ride it? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1493 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it a water ride (and hence the barefoot-ness)? Were they barefoot before getting on the ride? Did they take off their shoes to get on the ride? Did they become barefoot during the ride? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1711 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did he refuse to let them on because they were drunk? No But they insisted, and eventually he relented? No They then threw up on the ride Yes, and sued him because he had let them on when they had been in no condition to ride it? Good idea, but no Is it a water ride (and hence the barefoot-ness)? No Were they barefoot before getting on the ride? No Did they take off their shoes to get on the ride? No Did they become barefoot during the ride? Yes | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1122 Registered: 3-2006 |
Why did he refuse to let them on--was it something to do with them? something to do with the ride? something to do with himself? Did they remove their shoes deliberately during the ride? actually reach down and pull them off? Were they supposed to do this? They had been drinking, right? Were they in fact drunk? obviously so? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1712 Registered: 11-2008 |
Why did he refuse to let them on FA--was it something to do with them? something to do with the ride? something to do with himself? Did they remove their shoes deliberately during the ride? Yes actually reach down and pull them off? Yes Were they supposed to do this? No They had been drinking, right? Yes Were they in fact drunk? Yes obviously so? Yes | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1123 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the FA because he did let them on? But they had to convince him to let them on, correct? Does this mean that he didn't want them on at first? If they hadn't removed their shoes, would they still have puked? Did they remove their shoes because, being drunk, they just thought it would be funny? or is there a more specific reason? Have they now lost their shoes? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1713 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the FA because he did let them on? Yes But they had to convince him to let them on, correct? Yes Does this mean that he didn't want them on at first? Not exactly If they hadn't removed their shoes, would they still have puked? Yes Did they remove their shoes because, being drunk, they just thought it would be funny? No or is there a more specific reason? Yes Have they now lost their shoes? Irr | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1494 Registered: 7-2009 |
Was the ride one that riders leave their feet dangling below them? Such as the giant swings? When they removed their shoes, did the shoes stay on the ride, or did they fall to the ground? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1714 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was the ride one that riders leave their feet dangling below them? Yes Such as the giant swings? It was not exactly a swing, but you have the principle all right When they removed their shoes, did the shoes stay on the ride No, or did they fall to the ground? This | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 611 Registered: 6-2008 |
So they didn't have to convince him because they appeared too drunk to ride? Was there another reason they shouldn't have gotten on? such as one or more of them being too short? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1716 Registered: 11-2008 |
So they didn't have to convince him because they appeared too drunk to ride? Noish Was there another reason they shouldn't have gotten on?Yesish such as one or more of them being too short? But not this | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 612 Registered: 6-2008 |
Were they lacking any articles of clothing? were they behaving abnormally? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1499 Registered: 7-2009 |
Was the ride closed? If so, because it had failed a safety inspection? Because the carnival was closed? Was the ride operator an actual ride operator (was he trained to do that/did he do it as a job)? Or was he just someone who happened to know how to work the controls? Or someone who thought they could figure out how to work the controls? Was he a member of their group? When removing their shoes, was their primary goal to remove their shoes? Or were they attempting to hit a target? If a target, was it the ride operator? The ride controls? Did the ride malfunction? Did it work unexpectedly? Did it run too long? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1718 Registered: 11-2008 |
Were they lacking any articles of clothing? other than the shoes? Possibly but not much relevant were they behaving abnormally? DOYD of abnormally Was the ride closed? Yesish If so, because it had failed a safety inspection? No Because the carnival was closed? Yesish Was the ride operator an actual ride operator Yes, he was (was he trained to do that/did he do it as a job)? Yes to both Or was he just someone who happened to know how to work the controls? No Or someone who thought they could figure out how to work the controls? No Was he a member of their group? Yope When removing their shoes, was their primary goal to remove their shoes? No Or were they attempting to hit a target? Yes If a target, was it the ride operator? This The ride controls? Did the ride malfunction? No Did it work unexpectedly? No Did it run too long? Yes Excellent questions! | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1500 Registered: 7-2009 |
Were they all employees of the carnival? Had he been drinking with them? Did he fall asleep after starting the ride? And they tried to hit him with their shoes to wake him back up? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1719 Registered: 11-2008 |
Were they all employees of the carnival? No Had he been drinking with them? Yes Did he fall asleep after starting the ride? Yes And they tried to hit him with their shoes to wake him back up? Yes I think that's it, and it's time for the ***************SPOILER********************* A traveling carnival arrives at a small town, and the operator of the chair-o-planes makes friends with the local guys. In the evening, they go to the local pub together, buy each other several rounds, and when they are boozed up the locals suggest that they could take a ride on the chair-o-planes. It is not difficult to persuade the operator as he is as drunk as the rest of the company. He puts the ride into motion but then falls fast asleep. Obviously, his companions do their best to wake him, throwing their shoes at him. As it does not help, they throw up all they have eaten the week before. It takes a long time before someone comes to free them. They have to go on sick leave for a week, and they sue the operator for lost profit and damaged clothes, let alone being the laughing matter of the entire town. Thank you all folks for participating, and Noel for the final swing. |
