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Being a priest, minister, rabbi, or imam carries an automatic benefit that is not automatic in any non-clergy line of work. This is a worldwide phenomenon--not a matter of any particular country's laws. What is it?
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do clergy members of other faiths carry the same benefit?
If said clergy members were women would they have the same benefit?
is the benefit material?
immaterial?
emotional?
spiritual?
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do clergy members of other faiths carry the same benefit? some do
If said clergy members were women would they have the same benefit? yes--gender is irrel
is the benefit material? no
immaterial? yes
emotional? yes
spiritual?yesish or yope
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is the benefit something non-clergy can have?
if so, does it cost them?

is the benefit a particular emotion?(ie. hope)
if so, is said emotion perceived as good or bad?

does it involve communication?

if said clergy member were the only person in the world, would the benefit still exist? (ie. is it dependant on other people?)
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Do clergymen live longer? are happier? feel better about their lives?
Would a clergyman who didn't actually believe in the religion he worked for get this benefit?
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is the benefit something non-clergy can have? yes|
if so, does it cost them? no

is the benefit a particular emotion?(ie. hope) yes, but it's not hope
if so, is said emotion perceived as good or bad? good

does it involve communication? yope or noish

if said clergy member were the only person in the world, would the benefit still exist? ye(ie. is it dependant on other people?) no
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Do clergymen live longer? noare happier? noish or yope feel better about their lives? noish or yope
Would a clergyman who didn't actually believe in the religion he worked for get this?no
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is it something along the lines of assurance of salvation?


If god didn't exist would the clergy-member still have this benefit?

Do the clergy-members know they have this benefit?

Do people who don't believe in any religion have this benefit?

do people who follow thi religion get the same benefit?
if so, do they know they have this benefit?


Do they get this benefit immediately upon becoming clergy-members?
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If God doesn't exist, would they still have this benefit? If God was irrefutably proven to the entire world not to exist, would they still have it?

If God does exist, would they still have it? If God's existence were irrefutably proven to the entire world, would they still have it?

Are they given this benefit only by people of their own respective religions? only by countries that have an official religion? only by people who do not have a religion/believe in God? by people in a combination of these groups? by all people?

Is the fact that they are all spiritual leaders relevant? how about the fact that they all believe in God?

Do any people who are not spiritual leaders receive this benefit? only people who believe in God? or are religious? Do the other people who have this benefit get it automatically? or do they have to do something to get it? or take advantage of it?
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is it something along the lines of assurance of salvation? no, Remember, this benefit is assured ONLY to the clergy, although some other people might in fact have it.


If god didn't exist would the clergy-member still have this benefit? I'm an atheist & I think clergy members automatically have this benefit.

Do the clergy-members know they have this benefit? yes

Do people who don't believe in any religion have this benefit? Some do & some don't

do people who follow this religion get the same benefit? Some do & some don't
if so, do they know they have this benefit? People who have this benefit know that they have it


Do they get this benefit immediately upon becoming clergy-members? yes
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If God doesn't exist, would they still have this benefit? yes If God was irrefutably proven to the entire world not to exist, would they still have it? no

If God does exist, would they still have it? yes If God's existence were irrefutably proven to the entire world, would they still have it?yes

Are they given this benefit only by people of their own respective religions? no only by countries that have an official religion? no only by people who do not have a religion/believe in God? noby people in a combination of these groups? no by all people? no

Is the fact that they are all spiritual leaders relevant? yesish how about the fact that they all believe in God? yes

Do any people who are not spiritual leaders receive this benefit? yesonly people who believe in God? or are religious? no Do the other people who have this benefit get it automatically? no or do they have to do something to get it?yes or take advantage of it? no
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if god was irrefutably proven to not exist, but the clergy member still believed in God, would he still have it?
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if god was irrefutably proven to not exist, but the clergy member still believed in God, would he still have it? yes
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is the benefit something to do with the way other people regard them? the way other people treat them?
is the benefit that they are perceived by others to have a particular trait? a particular virtue? honesty?
is the benefit material? monetary? status related?
is the benefit that they are perceived to be impartial? altruistic?
is the benefit something that most people would consider a benefit? only religious people?
would it make others envious?
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is the benefit something to do with the way other people regard them? no the way other people treat them? no
is the benefit that they are perceived by others to have a particular trait? no a particular virtue? no honesty? no
is the benefit material? no monetary? nostatus related? no
is the benefit that they are perceived to be impartial? no altruistic? no
is the benefit something that most people would consider a benefit? yesonly religious people? no
would it make others envious? yes
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is the benefit that they are somehow exempt from a tax? from a law? from another kind of rule? from a social rule?
are they somehow protected? legally? physically? are they excused some sort of work? an unpleasant task? excused from a boring situation? annoying situation?

is it that they are allowed to behave in a certain way? that they have a ready made excuse for something? is it related to the idea that they are governed by 'higher' rules'?

does it relate to disease? mortality? access to care?
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is the benefit that they are somehow exempt from a tax? nofrom a law? no from another kind of rule? no from a social rule? no
are they somehow protected?yesish legally? no physically? noare they excused some sort of work? no an unpleasant task? noexcused from a boring situation? noannoying situation?no

is it that they are allowed to behave in a certain way? no that they have a ready made excuse for something? no is it related to the idea that they are governed by 'higher' rules'? noish

does it relate to disease? no mortality? noaccess to care? no
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Does this have to do with how clergy regard themselves? Is it a scrund among clergy?
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Does this have to do with how clergy regard themselves? noishIs it a scrund among clergy? no
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Is it to do with how the clergy: regard their life in general? their future aspirations? their hopeful experiences in the afterlife? their relationship with God?

To have this benefit, is it necessary (if different, answer also for "is it sufficient...") that: one believes in God? One's profession is somehow centred around one's belief in God? One is regularly engaged in proselytism? One either is, or perceives oneself to be, in some position of authority/power in regards to such religious activity?

If I were to set up my own religion, with no followers other than myself, with the belief that I had direct knowledge of God's beliefs and intentions...would I also have this benefit in the same immediate way that the clergy do? Or is it important that there be other followers? Or that there be some historical/cultural backdrop to the religion?

Do upper-echilon Scientologists get this same immediate benefit? Upper-echilon Satanists?
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Would a humanist chaplain receive this benefit?
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Does the benefit relate to the influence they have on other people?

So you basically say there is some benefit which is granted to all members of clergy, but some non-clergy people can still have it, too. Correct?
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Is it to do with how the clergy: regard their life in general? notheir future aspirations? notheir hopeful experiences in the afterlife? no their relationship with God?yes or yesish

To have this benefit, is it necessary (if different, answer also for "is it sufficient...") that: one believes in God? N: yes; S:noOne's profession is somehow centred around one's belief in God? N:yes, S:no One is regularly engaged in proselytism? N: no, S: no One either is, or perceives oneself to be, in some position of authority/power in regards to such religious activity? N:no, S: no

If I were to set up my own religion, with no followers other than myself, with the belief that I had direct knowledge of God's beliefs and intentions...would I also have this benefit in the same immediate way that the clergy do? no Or is it important that there be other followers? yesish Or that there be some historical/cultural backdrop to the religion? no

Do upper-echilon Scientologists get this same immediate benefit? noUpper-echilon Satanists? I doubt it but am unsure
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Would a humanist chaplain receive this benefit? no
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Does the benefit relate to the influence they have on other people? no

So you basically say there is some benefit which is granted to all members of clergy, but some non-clergy people can still have it, too. Correct? yes
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HINT: This advantage was originally mentioned (in a book I read) as a semi-joke. It's a real advantage for all clergy (in monotheistic religions), but it's also funny.
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Is it something along the lines of them considering God their "boss" in some way? or their "colleague"?
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Is it something along the lines of them considering God their "boss" in some way? Yes!GOOOOOOOOOOD QUESTION!! Now all you have to do is figure out the guaranteed advantage of having God be your "boss" if you're a religious believer or their "colleague"? no
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You can't get "fired" if God is your boss?
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You can claim God told you to do something?
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You can't get "fired" if God is your boss? no
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You can claim God told you to do something? no
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Is this advantage a direct parallel of a situation that any other employee would be in with his/her boss - and with God as the boss, the situation is that much better? Or is it more that having God as your boss adds something to the boss-employee relationship that just isn't there in secular employment?
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Is this advantage a direct parallel of a situation that any other employee would be in with his/her boss - and with God as the boss, the situation is that much better? Or is it more that having God as your boss adds something to the boss-employee relationship that just isn't there in secular employment? It's what the puzzle statement says: if you think God is your boss, this benefit is GUARANTEED; with other bosses, it's just a possibility
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Is this anything to do with God's supposed omniscience? Omnipotence? Benevolence? Immortality? Invisibility?

Is it that your employer/boss can never go bust?
Your boss never asks what you're up to?
Your boss never interrupts?
Your boss always listens?
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Is this anything to do with God's supposed omniscience? yesOmnipotence? yes| Benevolence? yesImmortality? no Invisibility? no

Is it that your employer/boss can never go bust? no
Your boss never asks what you're up to? no
Your boss never interrupts? no
Your boss always listens? no

You're very ORT (on the right track), though!
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Your boss knows when you want a pay rise?
You don't have to have an appraisal for him to know what you've been doing?
You never need to sit in tedious meetings which go on and on without achieving anything?
Your boss is bigger and tougher than everyone else's bosses?
Your boss has a very hands-off management style?
Your boss is always sympathetic?
Your boss doesn't turn up at 4.30 on Friday wanting you to do something "before you go"?
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Your boss knows when you want a pay rise?
You don't have to have an appraisal for him to know what you've been doing?
You never need to sit in tedious meetings which go on and on without achieving anything?
Your boss is bigger and tougher than everyone else's bosses?
Your boss has a very hands-off management style?
Your boss is always sympathetic?
Your boss doesn't turn up at 4.30 on Friday wanting you to do something "before you go"? none of the above, but these & some previous questions have made me realize that this is not a very good puzzle, because there are many answers that would work as well as the intended solution.
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Ah well, we can still try to find the solution!

Is this related to something God does? Something he doesn't do? Is it unique to a monotheistic God? Or would it be true of any deity? Is it related to pay? Working hours? Delegation? Job description? Workload? Employer-employee relationship? Colleagues? Is it related to something that's true of most bosses? Many bosses? Is it related to a trait that people often complain about in their bosses?

Your boss doesn't blame you when things go wrong?
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Ah well, we can still try to find the solution!\b[ Thanks!}

Is this related to something God does? yesish or yope Something he doesn't do? dittoIs it unique to a monotheistic God? not necessarily Or would it be true of any deity? No, not of just any deity Is it related to pay? no Working hours? noDelegation? noJob description? no Workload? no Employer-employee relationship? yes Colleagues? noIs it related to something that's true of most bosses? no Many bosses?probably not, but I'm not sureIs it related to a trait that people often complain about in their bosses? yes

Your boss doesn't blame you when things go wrong? no. Doesn't God often blame sinners in Christianity, Judaism, & Islam?
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I think you could have an interesting discussion about whether God is prone to blaming people, but it would probably come down to semantics. At the very least you could say that he's prepared to forgive your mistakes, which is better than the average boss!

Would this be true of all Hindu deities? Some of them? None of them? Is it relevant that God's effectively the CEO? Is it related to God's character? Does it assume his presence in any way? His absence? Does it relate to his feelings/attitude in such a way that his presence/absence is more or less irrelevant?

Your boss understands you?
Your boss encourages you?
Your boss doesn't ask you to do things you can't handle?
Your boss can't moan about you with his superiors?
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I think you could have an interesting discussion about whether God is prone to blaming people, but it would probably come down to semantics. I doubt that it would come down to semantics. Some religious rely on the idea that humans have free will & are blamable. I think this is true of Catholicism & Judaism. At the very least you could say that he's prepared to forgive your mistakes, which is better than the average boss!

Would this be true of all Hindu deities? I think not but that's just a GUESS. I don't know much about Hinduism, except that it's semi-polythestic--maybe. A Hundu once told me that they're all forms of the same god, but I don't know how typical his view is of Hinduism. Are there any Hindus on this international forum who can help here? Some of them? Prpbably yesNone of them? Probably notIs it relevant that God's effectively the CEO? yesishIs it related to God's character? yesDoes it assume his presence in any way? yes His absence? noDoes it relate to his feelings/attitude in such a way that his presence/absence is more or less irrelevant? no

Your boss understands you? no
Your boss encourages you? no
Your boss doesn't ask you to do things you can't handle? no
Your boss can't moan about you with his superiors? np
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HINT: Think about people's attitudes toward their bosses.
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Would a clergyman be different in that his boss would be perfect? Or at least better than other bosses? That his boss doesn't physically call? That his boss will always listen? That his boss is smart? That his boss is effective? Efficient? His boss has good hair?
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Would a clergyman be different in that his boss would be perfect? You're very ORT (on the right track). Just think of the various attitudes one might have toward a perfect boss. Or at least better than other bosses? no That his boss doesn't physically call? no That his boss will always listen? no That his boss is smart? That his boss is effective? Efficient? Again, think of the attitudes one might have toward a smart, effective, efficient boss His boss has good hair? Noooooooo
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They all love their boss?
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They all love their boss? No, but you're very ORT (on the right track)
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is it that they always agree with their boss?
or never argue with the boss?
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is it that they always agree with their boss?
or never argue with the boss? No to both, but you're very ORT
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They don't have to lie to their boss or explain anything as the boss knows everything?

Their boss is never afraid that they want his (the boss's) job? There is no competition between the boss and the "employee"?

The boss will never expect more from them than what they can give? Never expect them to be his standard?
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They don't have to lie to their boss or explain anything as the boss knows everything?Remember, I said this benefit occurs in some other jobs as well, just not as an automatic feature. But no mortal boss knows everything.

Their boss is never afraid that they want his (the boss's) job? noThere is no competition between the boss and the "employee"? no

The boss will never expect more from them than what they can give? noNever expect them to be his standard? no. Remember, my HINT: Think about people's attitudes toward their bosses.
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Do you mean that people usually don't like their bosses? Resent their bosses? They are afraid of their bosses? Intimidated? Bored? Envy them? The boss makes more money than them? Other negative attitudes?
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Do you mean that people usually don't like their bosses? no Resent their bosses? noThey are afraid of their bosses? noIntimidated? noishBored? noEnvy them? no The boss makes more money than them? no Other negative attitudes? yes
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is it relevant that they never see the boss? don't have the boss breathing down their necks? looking over their shoulders?
that they don't have to try and impress the boss? don't get called into the office for a telling off? don't have to listen to the boss when he's boring? don't have to socialise with the boss? take him home for dinner?
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is it relevant that they never see the boss? don't have the boss breathing down their necks? looking over their shoulders?
that they don't have to try and impress the boss? don't get called into the office for a telling off? don't have to listen to the boss when he's boring? don't have to socialise with the boss? take him home for dinner? no to all, except that "don't have to listen to the boss when he's boring" may be relevant-ish
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Well as far as i'm concerned having God as your boss would mean not having to hear terms like "Getting our Ducks in a row" or "Let's bluesky this problem and drill down to a solution".

So my question is whether the benefit of having God as your boss is that you don't have to listen to any of that awful business speak?
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Well as far as i'm concerned having God as your boss would mean not having to hear terms like "Getting our Ducks in a row" or "Let's bluesky this problem and drill down to a solution". That's part of it, but the full benefit is more general. Remember, it involves your attitude toward your boss

So my question is whether the benefit of having God as your boss is that you don't have to listen to any of that awful business speak? see previous answer
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Is the benefit along the lines that you'd only talk to your boss when you want to?
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Is the benefit along the lines that you'd only talk to your boss when you want to? no
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Is the notion of bosses being discrimintory in anyway relevant?

Or that the boss does less work than his staff?
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Is the notion of bosses being discrimintory in anyway relevant? no

Or that the boss does less work than his staff? no

There's a really obvious possibility you're all overlooking!!
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Salary relevant? Work hours? Micromanagement? Reorganization? Prayer relevant?
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The boss is always someone you respect? Someone you want to listen to? Someone you admire? Someone you can trust?

(trying to focus on attitudes towards the boss rather than attributes he has... is this OTRT?)
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The boss is always someone you respect? yes Someone you want to listen to? see previous answer Someone you admire? ditto Someone you can trust? ditto

(trying to focus on attitudes towards the boss rather than attributes he has... is this OTRT? So much so that you've solved it!!)

**** SPOILER ***********

According to the book,What's That Job and How the Hell Do I Get It?, being in the clergy is one job where you will always respect your boss. Unfortunately, this wasn't a very good puzzle, because several other proposed solutions (such as "Your boss is always willing to listen") would do as well. Also, assistant ministers or rabbis have immediate bosses who are themselves clergy & no more likely to deserve respect than any other sort of boss. Please check out my new & I hope unproblematic puzzle.

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