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Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 11:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I could've told the truth, but chose to blame the rust. They said it was okay.
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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 11:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did something break? Or was damaged? Did "they" own it? Or have responsibility for it? Was something your fault?
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Posted on Monday, July 05, 2010 - 11:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did something break? Or was damaged? Something damaged is relevant. Did "they" own it? Or have responsibility for it? No to all. Was something your fault? Yope.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 12:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the "something damaged" something belonging to you? If you had told the truth, would they have said it was OK?

And I have to ask...

Is skydiving involved?
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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 12:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the "something damaged" something belonging to you? Yes. If you had told the truth, would they have said it was OK? Possibly.

And I have to ask...

Is skydiving involved? Indirectly :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 12:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In that case...

Is the damaged thing a piece of skydiving equipment? Are "they" your diving buddies? Instructors?
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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 12:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the damaged thing a piece of skydiving equipment? Are "they" your diving buddies? Instructors? No to all.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 12:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is aviation involved?
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Is aviation involved? No.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 12:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you travelling when the thing was damaged? On your way to go skydiving? From?
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Were you travelling when the thing was damaged? On your way to go skydiving? From? Irr - the damage is old.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 1:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the thing damaged made of metal? Wood? Plastic? Glass? Paper? Cardboard? Foam? Wax? Stone? Is it used for transportation?
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Is the thing damaged made of metal? Wood? Plastic? Glass? All of the above. Paper? Cardboard? Foam? Wax? Stone? Is it used for transportation? Not anymore.
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Did some machinery stop working (AKA "freeze up")? Is it an obsolete form of transportation? Animal-driven?
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Is it a car? That is broken down? And rusted?
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Did some machinery stop working (AKA "freeze up")? No, but OTRT. Is it an obsolete form of transportation? Animal-driven? No to both.

Is it a car? No. That is broken down? But yesish. And rusted? And yes.
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Is it a form of transportation? A vehicle? Does it still work?
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Is it a museum piece?
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Is it a form of transportation? Yes. A vehicle? Yes. Does it still work? Yope.

Is it a museum piece? No.
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Is it a truck? Wagon? Tank? Bus? Airplane? Sled? Does it have wheels?
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Is it a truck? Wagon? OTRT Tank? Bus? Airplane? Sled? No to the rest. Does it have wheels? Yes.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2010 - 2:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the vehicle open to the surroundings? Can it fit more than one person? Is it meant for children? Adults? Is it a bicycle? Tricycle? Unicycle? Motorcycle?
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Is the vehicle open to the surroundings? No. Can it fit more than one person? Yes. Is it meant for children? Partly. Adults? Yes. Is it a bicycle? Tricycle? Unicycle? Motorcycle? None of these.
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Is the vehicle man-powered? Electrical? Gas-powered? Wind? Solar?
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Is the vehicle man-powered? Electrical? Gas-powered? Yope, explore. Wind? Solar? No to the rest.
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Is the vehicle mass-produced? Homemade? Is it a moped? ATV? Quad? Golf cart? Lawn mower?
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Is the vehicle mass-produced? Yes. Homemade? Is it a moped? ATV? Quad? Golf cart? Lawn mower? Neither.
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Hint: the vehicle itself is unpowered, but...
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Is it attached to something else that is powered? Like a motorcycle sidecar? A trailer? Camper?
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Is it attached to something else that is powered? Like a motorcycle sidecar? A trailer? Camper? This!
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So the camper is rusted? And will not move? Are "they" your family? People who plan to use the camper? People who want to buy it?
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So the camper is rusted? Yes. And will not move? Yope. Are "they" your family? No. People who plan to use the camper? Noish. People who want to buy it? No.
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Maybe the wheels move, but the door(s) are rusted shut? or the rust doesn't stop it moving, but you told "them" it did?
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Maybe the wheels move, but the door(s) are rusted shut? No. or the rust doesn't stop it moving Yope., but you told "them" it did? Correct.
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Did a second problem cause the camper to stop moving properly? Something you did?
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Did a second problem cause the camper to stop moving properly? Noish. Something you did? Yesish.
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Did you neglect to do something? And it caused the camper to malfunction?
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Did you neglect to do something? Yes. And it caused the camper to malfunction? No.
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Did your neglect cause the camper to rust? Did you forget to do something basic?
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Did your neglect cause the camper to rust? No. Did you forget to do something basic? No.
Summary: I told someone, yet to be determined, that my camper doesn't move because it is rusted. In reality it only yopeishly doesn't move. I neglected to do something as of yet unknown.
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Does it only move up to a certain speed? A certain distance? Is the camper rusted?
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Does it only move up to a certain speed? A certain distance? No to both - I should say it youpeishly can't move. Is the camper rusted? Yes.
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Can the wheels move? Can they carry the weight of the camper? Can the camper not be towed?
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Can the wheels move? Can they carry the weight of the camper? Can the camper not be towed? I don't know. (this is a hint)
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Have you used the camper since the problem started? Is the camper currently on blocks? Or does the second party want to use the camper? But you're not sure, and don't want anything to go wrong, so you say it can't be towed because of the rust?
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Have you used the camper since the problem started? I have lived in it. Is the camper currently on blocks? No, but it has four supports that are extended to blocks on the ground. The supports are retractable, but the mechanism for this is rusted. Or does the second party want to use the camper? Not use. But you're not sure, Correct. and don't want anything to go wrong, Partly this. so you say it can't be towed because of the rust? Yes.
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Now what did they want, and what additional reason did I have for blaming the rust?
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Do they want to rent the camper? Buy it? Live in it? Borrow it?

Does the rust prevent the wheels from turning? Are the axles rusted? Or is this OTWT?
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Do they want to rent the camper? Buy it? Live in it? Borrow it? No.

Does the rust prevent the wheels from turning? Are the axles rusted? Or is this OTWT? We know everything relevant about the rust: I told them the camper couldn't be moved because of it, but I don't actually know whether it can be moved or not.
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Do they want to help you move it? Move it themselves?
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Do they want to help you move it? Move it themselves? No, but OTRT.
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Do they want the camper to be moved to a different location? Do they want you to dump it? Otherwise throw it out? Dump it themselves?
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Do they want the camper to be moved to a different location? This.Do they want you to dump it? Otherwise throw it out? Dump it themselves?
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Do they want to move the camper to their yard? Your yard? Relevant exactly where the camper is right now?
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Do they want to move the camper to their yard? Your yard? Irr. Relevant exactly where the camper is right now? Yes.
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Whoops, forgot about this one.

Is the camper somewhere in your yard? Is it on a road? In a lot? Parking lot? In the woods? Is it on a paved area?
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Is the camper somewhere in your yard? Is it on a road? In a lot? This. Parking lot? In the woods? Is it on a paved area? No to the rest.
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Do they want to use the camper? Take it apart? Do they only want part of the camper?
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Do they want to use the camper? Take it apart? Do they only want part of the camper? No to all.
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Do they want to store things in the camper? To display it? Do they want to give it to someone else?
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Do they want to store things in the camper? To display it? Do they want to give it to someone else? No, you're on the wrong track.
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Do they want to take the camper to be disposed of? Thrown away? Burned? Gutted? Do you want to keep the camper?
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Do they want to take the camper to be disposed of? Thrown away? Burned? Gutted? No, youre still OTWT. Do you want to keep the camper? Yes, and they'll let me.
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Do they intend to sell the camper? Do they want it for themselves?
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Do they intend to sell the camper? Do they want it for themselves? No, you're making a FA.
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Do they want the camper? Are they simply trying to take it away from you?
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Do they want the camper? No. Are they simply trying to take it away from you? No, but getting warmer.
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Do they want it removed from the lot? So it (the lot) can be used for something else?
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Do they want it removed from the lot? So it (the lot) can be used for something else? Yes!
To be precise, they were hosting a rock festival at our airfield, and wanted all campers removed from the particular area where mine was.

I told them it was rusty and couldn't be moved. I did not tell them the truth - it is indeed rusty, but I don't know if it can be moved or not.
Now what is the truth?
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Do you not want to move the camper? Do you need it to be where it is? Are you afraid it'll break if you try to move it?
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Do you not want to move the camper? Correct, but there's more to it. Do you need it to be where it is? No. Are you afraid it'll break if you try to move it? Noish, this is not my primary fear.
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Do you want the camper to stay where it is? Is it convenient? Since this is at your airfield, do you keep your skydiving gear there? Is skydiving otherwise relevant?
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Do you want the camper to stay where it is? Yes. Is it convenient? There's more to it, but you're very OTRT. Since this is at your airfield, do you keep your skydiving gear there? Sometimes, and I sleep there. Is skydiving otherwise relevant? No.
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Is it your "home away from home"? Do you live in the camper?
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Is it your "home away from home"? Sort of, but irr. Do you live in the camper? Only when skydiving.
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If you moved the camper, would you have to later move it back? Do you not want to have to move it twice?
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If you moved the camper, would you have to later move it back? No. Do you not want to have to move it twice? </b>Irr.</b>
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Do you like having the camper where it is? Were you nervous that if you tried to move the camper, it might break?
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Do you like having the camper where it is? Actually, no. Were you nervous that if you tried to move the camper, it might break? It's not my primary concern.
Hint: what I would need to do in order to move the camper is relevant.
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Would you need to take everything out of the camper in order to move it? And that would be a pain?
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Would you need to take everything out of the camper in order to move it? No. And that would be a pain? The thing I avoided doing would be a pain.
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Would you have needed to do something to the camper before moving it? While? After?
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Would you have needed to do something to the camper before moving it? This. While? No. After? But this also.
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Would you have needed to attach something to it? Would it have been to the inside of the camper? Outside?
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Would you have needed to attach something to it? Yope. Would it have been to the inside of the camper? Outside? This.
Hint: The location of the rust, as mentioned earlier in the puzzle, is relevant.
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The rusted part is the mechanism for the supports that extend to blocks, right? Do you not want to put tires on the camper? Take it off the blocks? Move the blocks?
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The rusted part is the mechanism for the supports that extend to blocks, right? Correct. Do you not want to put tires on the camper? FA. Take it off the blocks? Move the blocks? Both are irr.
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Are there already tires on the camper? Would you have to lower the supports? And that would take a lot of work?
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Are there already tires on the camper? Would you have to lower the supports? Yesish - first retract, then lower. And that would take a lot of work? Yesish - the problem is more specific than that.
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Would you have to go under the camper to lower the supports?
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Would you have to go under the camper to lower the supports? Yes, but that's not the problem either.
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Is the problem involved with the supports at all? Would you need to put fuel in the camper? (Wait - campers don't need fuel, do they?)
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Is the problem involved with the supports at all? Yes. Would you need to put fuel in the camper? (Wait - campers don't need fuel, do they?) No.
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Would you need to remove the supports entirely? Disattach them from the camper? And that would take a lot of work? Relevant exactly how the supports are attached?

Would you need to de-rust the supports? The mechanism?
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Would you need to remove the supports entirely? Disattach them from the camper? No to all, but OTRT. And that would take a lot of work? Therefore irr. Relevant exactly how the supports are attached? Yope.

Would you need to de-rust the supports? The mechanism? Probably, and that's a contributing factor but not the main one.
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Are the blocks at all relevant? Or just the camper and supports?
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Are the blocks at all relevant? Or just the camper and supports? Just the mechanism, really.
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Does the mechanism require a tool to adjust? Can it be accessed easily?
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Does the mechanism require a tool to adjust? Yes. Can it be accessed easily? The mechanism? Relatively.
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Is the tool complicated to use? Would it typically be found in a toolbox? Is it a handheld tool? Electric-powered? Specific to the mechanism? Do you have the tool easily accessible?
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Is the tool complicated to use? Would it typically be found in a toolbox? Is it a handheld tool? Electric-powered? Specific to the mechanism? Do you have the tool easily accessible? No, I don't have the tool at all!

About time to post a
****SPOILER****
A big rock festival was being hosted on our airfield (not really "our", it's owned by the city). The planners requested for all campers to be moved away from a certain area. My camper is standing on 4 retractable legs, the retraction mechanism is rusty, and I don't have the tool for turning it (I imagine it would be a crank with a big hex socket on the end).
I didn't want to go through all the trouble of getting the tool, getting rust remover, and a car for pulling the camper (I don't own a car) - especially when it was possible that I wouldn't be able to move it anyway.
So I took the easy way out and just told them it was too rusty to move, and they let me keep it there :-)
Good work, special thanks to Balin for persistency!
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Wow, that took a really long time!

Great puzzle!

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