| Author | Message | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2376 Registered: 9-2009 |
I could've told the truth, but chose to blame the rust. They said it was okay. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3208 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did something break? Or was damaged? Did "they" own it? Or have responsibility for it? Was something your fault? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2379 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did something break? Or was damaged? Something damaged is relevant. Did "they" own it? Or have responsibility for it? No to all. Was something your fault? Yope. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1725 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the "something damaged" something belonging to you? If you had told the truth, would they have said it was OK? And I have to ask... Is skydiving involved? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2382 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the "something damaged" something belonging to you? Yes. If you had told the truth, would they have said it was OK? Possibly. And I have to ask... Is skydiving involved? Indirectly :-) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1731 Registered: 4-2010 |
In that case... Is the damaged thing a piece of skydiving equipment? Are "they" your diving buddies? Instructors? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2384 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the damaged thing a piece of skydiving equipment? Are "they" your diving buddies? Instructors? No to all. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3212 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is aviation involved? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2386 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is aviation involved? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1736 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were you travelling when the thing was damaged? On your way to go skydiving? From? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2387 Registered: 9-2009 |
Were you travelling when the thing was damaged? On your way to go skydiving? From? Irr - the damage is old. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1739 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the thing damaged made of metal? Wood? Plastic? Glass? Paper? Cardboard? Foam? Wax? Stone? Is it used for transportation? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2389 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the thing damaged made of metal? Wood? Plastic? Glass? All of the above. Paper? Cardboard? Foam? Wax? Stone? Is it used for transportation? Not anymore. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3220 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did some machinery stop working (AKA "freeze up")? Is it an obsolete form of transportation? Animal-driven? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1743 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a car? That is broken down? And rusted? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2392 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did some machinery stop working (AKA "freeze up")? No, but OTRT. Is it an obsolete form of transportation? Animal-driven? No to both. Is it a car? No. That is broken down? But yesish. And rusted? And yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1746 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a form of transportation? A vehicle? Does it still work? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3224 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is it a museum piece? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2394 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it a form of transportation? Yes. A vehicle? Yes. Does it still work? Yope. Is it a museum piece? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1748 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a truck? Wagon? Tank? Bus? Airplane? Sled? Does it have wheels? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2395 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it a truck? Wagon? OTRT Tank? Bus? Airplane? Sled? No to the rest. Does it have wheels? Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1777 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the vehicle open to the surroundings? Can it fit more than one person? Is it meant for children? Adults? Is it a bicycle? Tricycle? Unicycle? Motorcycle? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2419 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the vehicle open to the surroundings? No. Can it fit more than one person? Yes. Is it meant for children? Partly. Adults? Yes. Is it a bicycle? Tricycle? Unicycle? Motorcycle? None of these. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1780 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the vehicle man-powered? Electrical? Gas-powered? Wind? Solar? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2420 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the vehicle man-powered? Electrical? Gas-powered? Yope, explore. Wind? Solar? No to the rest. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1788 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the vehicle mass-produced? Homemade? Is it a moped? ATV? Quad? Golf cart? Lawn mower? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2437 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the vehicle mass-produced? Yes. Homemade? Is it a moped? ATV? Quad? Golf cart? Lawn mower? Neither. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2455 Registered: 9-2009 |
Hint: the vehicle itself is unpowered, but... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1834 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it attached to something else that is powered? Like a motorcycle sidecar? A trailer? Camper? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2457 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it attached to something else that is powered? Like a motorcycle sidecar? A trailer? Camper? This! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1840 Registered: 4-2010 |
So the camper is rusted? And will not move? Are "they" your family? People who plan to use the camper? People who want to buy it? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2463 Registered: 9-2009 |
So the camper is rusted? Yes. And will not move? Yope. Are "they" your family? No. People who plan to use the camper? Noish. People who want to buy it? No. | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 864 Registered: 6-2008 |
Maybe the wheels move, but the door(s) are rusted shut? or the rust doesn't stop it moving, but you told "them" it did? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2475 Registered: 9-2009 |
Maybe the wheels move, but the door(s) are rusted shut? No. or the rust doesn't stop it moving Yope., but you told "them" it did? Correct. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1860 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did a second problem cause the camper to stop moving properly? Something you did? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2484 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did a second problem cause the camper to stop moving properly? Noish. Something you did? Yesish. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1870 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you neglect to do something? And it caused the camper to malfunction? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2487 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did you neglect to do something? Yes. And it caused the camper to malfunction? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1878 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did your neglect cause the camper to rust? Did you forget to do something basic? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2491 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did your neglect cause the camper to rust? No. Did you forget to do something basic? No. Summary: I told someone, yet to be determined, that my camper doesn't move because it is rusted. In reality it only yopeishly doesn't move. I neglected to do something as of yet unknown. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1886 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does it only move up to a certain speed? A certain distance? Is the camper rusted? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2493 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does it only move up to a certain speed? A certain distance? No to both - I should say it youpeishly can't move. Is the camper rusted? Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1895 Registered: 4-2010 |
Can the wheels move? Can they carry the weight of the camper? Can the camper not be towed? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2495 Registered: 9-2009 |
Can the wheels move? Can they carry the weight of the camper? Can the camper not be towed? I don't know. (this is a hint) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1899 Registered: 4-2010 |
Have you used the camper since the problem started? Is the camper currently on blocks? Or does the second party want to use the camper? But you're not sure, and don't want anything to go wrong, so you say it can't be towed because of the rust? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2500 Registered: 9-2009 |
Have you used the camper since the problem started? I have lived in it. Is the camper currently on blocks? No, but it has four supports that are extended to blocks on the ground. The supports are retractable, but the mechanism for this is rusted. Or does the second party want to use the camper? Not use. But you're not sure, Correct. and don't want anything to go wrong, Partly this. so you say it can't be towed because of the rust? Yes. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2501 Registered: 9-2009 |
Now what did they want, and what additional reason did I have for blaming the rust? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1936 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do they want to rent the camper? Buy it? Live in it? Borrow it? Does the rust prevent the wheels from turning? Are the axles rusted? Or is this OTWT? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2519 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do they want to rent the camper? Buy it? Live in it? Borrow it? No. Does the rust prevent the wheels from turning? Are the axles rusted? Or is this OTWT? We know everything relevant about the rust: I told them the camper couldn't be moved because of it, but I don't actually know whether it can be moved or not. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1942 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do they want to help you move it? Move it themselves? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2520 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do they want to help you move it? Move it themselves? No, but OTRT. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1947 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do they want the camper to be moved to a different location? Do they want you to dump it? Otherwise throw it out? Dump it themselves? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2521 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do they want the camper to be moved to a different location? This.Do they want you to dump it? Otherwise throw it out? Dump it themselves? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1960 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do they want to move the camper to their yard? Your yard? Relevant exactly where the camper is right now? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2522 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do they want to move the camper to their yard? Your yard? Irr. Relevant exactly where the camper is right now? Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2247 Registered: 4-2010 |
Whoops, forgot about this one. Is the camper somewhere in your yard? Is it on a road? In a lot? Parking lot? In the woods? Is it on a paved area? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2588 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the camper somewhere in your yard? Is it on a road? In a lot? This. Parking lot? In the woods? Is it on a paved area? No to the rest. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2261 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do they want to use the camper? Take it apart? Do they only want part of the camper? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2593 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do they want to use the camper? Take it apart? Do they only want part of the camper? No to all. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2278 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do they want to store things in the camper? To display it? Do they want to give it to someone else? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2598 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do they want to store things in the camper? To display it? Do they want to give it to someone else? No, you're on the wrong track. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2286 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do they want to take the camper to be disposed of? Thrown away? Burned? Gutted? Do you want to keep the camper? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2603 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do they want to take the camper to be disposed of? Thrown away? Burned? Gutted? No, youre still OTWT. Do you want to keep the camper? Yes, and they'll let me. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2295 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do they intend to sell the camper? Do they want it for themselves? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2606 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do they intend to sell the camper? Do they want it for themselves? No, you're making a FA. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2301 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do they want the camper? Are they simply trying to take it away from you? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2609 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do they want the camper? No. Are they simply trying to take it away from you? No, but getting warmer. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2305 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do they want it removed from the lot? So it (the lot) can be used for something else? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2613 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do they want it removed from the lot? So it (the lot) can be used for something else? Yes! To be precise, they were hosting a rock festival at our airfield, and wanted all campers removed from the particular area where mine was. I told them it was rusty and couldn't be moved. I did not tell them the truth - it is indeed rusty, but I don't know if it can be moved or not. Now what is the truth? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2312 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do you not want to move the camper? Do you need it to be where it is? Are you afraid it'll break if you try to move it? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2617 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do you not want to move the camper? Correct, but there's more to it. Do you need it to be where it is? No. Are you afraid it'll break if you try to move it? Noish, this is not my primary fear. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2316 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do you want the camper to stay where it is? Is it convenient? Since this is at your airfield, do you keep your skydiving gear there? Is skydiving otherwise relevant? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2619 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do you want the camper to stay where it is? Yes. Is it convenient? There's more to it, but you're very OTRT. Since this is at your airfield, do you keep your skydiving gear there? Sometimes, and I sleep there. Is skydiving otherwise relevant? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2329 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it your "home away from home"? Do you live in the camper? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2622 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it your "home away from home"? Sort of, but irr. Do you live in the camper? Only when skydiving. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2331 Registered: 4-2010 |
If you moved the camper, would you have to later move it back? Do you not want to have to move it twice? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2623 Registered: 9-2009 |
If you moved the camper, would you have to later move it back? No. Do you not want to have to move it twice? </b>Irr.</b> | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2337 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do you like having the camper where it is? Were you nervous that if you tried to move the camper, it might break? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2631 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do you like having the camper where it is? Actually, no. Were you nervous that if you tried to move the camper, it might break? It's not my primary concern. Hint: what I would need to do in order to move the camper is relevant. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2347 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would you need to take everything out of the camper in order to move it? And that would be a pain? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2637 Registered: 9-2009 |
Would you need to take everything out of the camper in order to move it? No. And that would be a pain? The thing I avoided doing would be a pain. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2356 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would you have needed to do something to the camper before moving it? While? After? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2638 Registered: 9-2009 |
Would you have needed to do something to the camper before moving it? This. While? No. After? But this also. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2366 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would you have needed to attach something to it? Would it have been to the inside of the camper? Outside? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2647 Registered: 9-2009 |
Would you have needed to attach something to it? Yope. Would it have been to the inside of the camper? Outside? This. Hint: The location of the rust, as mentioned earlier in the puzzle, is relevant. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2387 Registered: 4-2010 |
The rusted part is the mechanism for the supports that extend to blocks, right? Do you not want to put tires on the camper? Take it off the blocks? Move the blocks? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2659 Registered: 9-2009 |
The rusted part is the mechanism for the supports that extend to blocks, right? Correct. Do you not want to put tires on the camper? FA. Take it off the blocks? Move the blocks? Both are irr. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2392 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are there already tires on the camper? Would you have to lower the supports? And that would take a lot of work? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2666 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are there already tires on the camper? Would you have to lower the supports? Yesish - first retract, then lower. And that would take a lot of work? Yesish - the problem is more specific than that. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2397 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would you have to go under the camper to lower the supports? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2670 Registered: 9-2009 |
Would you have to go under the camper to lower the supports? Yes, but that's not the problem either. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2413 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the problem involved with the supports at all? Would you need to put fuel in the camper? (Wait - campers don't need fuel, do they?) | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2676 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the problem involved with the supports at all? Yes. Would you need to put fuel in the camper? (Wait - campers don't need fuel, do they?) No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2417 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would you need to remove the supports entirely? Disattach them from the camper? And that would take a lot of work? Relevant exactly how the supports are attached? Would you need to de-rust the supports? The mechanism? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2678 Registered: 9-2009 |
Would you need to remove the supports entirely? Disattach them from the camper? No to all, but OTRT. And that would take a lot of work? Therefore irr. Relevant exactly how the supports are attached? Yope. Would you need to de-rust the supports? The mechanism? Probably, and that's a contributing factor but not the main one. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2423 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are the blocks at all relevant? Or just the camper and supports? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2682 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are the blocks at all relevant? Or just the camper and supports? Just the mechanism, really. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2430 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the mechanism require a tool to adjust? Can it be accessed easily? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2685 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the mechanism require a tool to adjust? Yes. Can it be accessed easily? The mechanism? Relatively. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2435 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the tool complicated to use? Would it typically be found in a toolbox? Is it a handheld tool? Electric-powered? Specific to the mechanism? Do you have the tool easily accessible? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2686 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the tool complicated to use? Would it typically be found in a toolbox? Is it a handheld tool? Electric-powered? Specific to the mechanism? Do you have the tool easily accessible? No, I don't have the tool at all! About time to post a ****SPOILER**** A big rock festival was being hosted on our airfield (not really "our", it's owned by the city). The planners requested for all campers to be moved away from a certain area. My camper is standing on 4 retractable legs, the retraction mechanism is rusty, and I don't have the tool for turning it (I imagine it would be a crank with a big hex socket on the end). I didn't want to go through all the trouble of getting the tool, getting rust remover, and a car for pulling the camper (I don't own a car) - especially when it was possible that I wouldn't be able to move it anyway. So I took the easy way out and just told them it was too rusty to move, and they let me keep it there :-) Good work, special thanks to Balin for persistency! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2436 Registered: 4-2010 |
Wow, that took a really long time! Great puzzle! |
