| Author | Message | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1945 Registered: 4-2010 |
"Sleep is my enemy." "Well, sleep is my enemy, too." | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 784 Registered: 6-2009 |
Are these quotes said by two different people? Speaking to one another? Both HAM? Sleep = a period of unconsciousness usually occurring at night? "Sleep is my enemy" : I don't want to sleep? I don't want others to sleep? Sleep will cause bad things to happen? I fight against sleep? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1952 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are these quotes said by two different people? Yes Speaking to one another? No-ish Both HAM? First: yes. Second: Yes, teenage, yes. Sleep = a period of unconsciousness usually occurring at night? Yes "Sleep is my enemy" : I don't want to sleep? I don't want others to sleep? Sleep will cause bad things to happen? This-ish I fight against sleep? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2523 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the teenage tendency of not wanting to get out of bed relevant? (I remember what that was like). Is their own sleep their enemy? Someone else's? Do they both have the same reason for sleep being their enemy? Could either of them have said "Falling asleep is my enemy"? "Sleeping is my enemy"? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1986 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the teenage tendency of not wanting to get out of bed relevant? No (I remember what that was like). Is their own sleep their enemy? Yes Someone else's? No Do they both have the same reason for sleep being their enemy? No Could either of them have said "Falling asleep is my enemy"? Yes to #1, Yope to #2 "Sleeping is my enemy"? Yes to both | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2538 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is #1 a trucker and #2 a student? And #1 will cause an accident, while #2 will miss class or lose time to study? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1989 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is #1 a trucker No and #2 a student? Yes, but irr And #1 will cause an accident, while #2 will miss class or lose time to study? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2008 Registered: 4-2010 |
HINT: Person 1 is speaking to a third party. Person 2 is speaking to Person 1, but Person 1 cannot hear Person 2. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2009 Registered: 4-2010 |
...and neither can the third party. | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 2361 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is Person #1 on television? (or in a movie or on the radio, etc?) and the third party is as well? | ||
| Vadron (Vadron)
New member Username: Vadron Post Number: 90 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is Person #1 aware Person #2 is speaking? Is the third party? Is the third party HAM? HAF? Do the first and third people know each other personally? Do the first and second people? The second and third people? Can we call person 1 Bob, person 2 Fred, and person 3 Bill or Jane (depending on gender)? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2016 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is Person #1 on television? (or in a movie or on the radio, etc?) and the third party is as well? A book, and Yes Is Person #1 aware Person #2 is speaking? Is the third party? Neither Is the third party HAM? HAF? This Do the first and third people know each other personally? Yes to Yope Do the first and second people? No The second and third people? No Can we call person 1 Bob, person 2 Fred, and person 3 Bill or Jane (depending on gender)? Sounds good to me. And a MAJOR BLOOPER: Bob does not actually say "Sleep is my enemy" in the book. However, it is something that is said (correctly) by other characters about him, and Jane knows that this is true about him. So, for the sake of the puzzle, assume Bob did actually say this to Jane, as it does not cause a problem with the book's plot. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3308 Registered: 5-2003 |
So Fred is reading a book about Bob and Jane, and commenting aloud on something Fred says to Jane in the book? Is the book nonfiction (if so, history, science, political, humor, biography)? Or fiction (if so, romance, mystery, fantasy, sci-fi, historical, horror, action)? Relevant? Are there any other relevant characters? In the book or out? Is Fred's comment positive, neutral or negative? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 3 Registered: 7-2010 |
Is Bob's or Fred's state of health important? Is their occupation? Does either of them have enemies? Does either not want to miss some event due to sleeping? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 4 Registered: 7-2010 |
EDIT: Does either of them have enemies? Other than sleep, of course. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2045 Registered: 4-2010 |
So Fred is reading a book about Bob and Jane, and commenting aloud on something Fred says to Jane in the book? Yes; caveat to the blooper though. And assumming you mean "something Bob says to Jane". Is the book nonfiction No (if so, history, science, political, humor, biography)? Or fiction Yes (if so, romance, mystery, fantasy, sci-fi, historical, horror, action)? I'd say thriller. Relevant? Yes Are there any other relevant characters? Yes In the book Yes... or out? ...and Yope. Is Fred's comment positive, neutral or negative? I'd say neutral. Is Bob's or Fred's state of health important? Bob: Yope. Fred: No. Is their occupation? No to both Does either of them have enemies? See edited version Does either not want to miss some event due to sleeping? Bob: Noish. Fred: Yesish to Yope. EDIT: Does either of them have enemies? Other than sleep, of course. Bob: Yes. Fred: No. And welcome to the forum! | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 14 Registered: 7-2010 |
Does Bob not want to sleep because of some threat by his enemies? Had Bob been poisoned by his enemies? Or did his enemies do something else to him that will endanger his life if he falls asleep? Is Jane's role important? Is Fred not willing to sleep because he's so captivated by the book that he's totally eager to finish it? Although he is tired? Or wouldn't get enough sleep if he stayed up too late? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2058 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does Bob not want to sleep because of some threat by his enemies? Yes, as well as something else Had Bob been poisoned by his enemies? No Or did his enemies do something else to him that will endanger his life if he falls asleep? Noish Is Jane's role important? In the book, Yes. In the puzzle, Yope. Is Fred not willing to sleep because he's so captivated by the book that he's totally eager to finish it? No Although he is tired? No Or wouldn't get enough sleep if he stayed up too late? No | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 16 Registered: 7-2010 |
Has Bob only have one enemy? Two? More? Does the threat refer to Bob's life? His family? Other persons? His money? His reputation? His job? Are his enemies blackmailing him because of something he had done? Is Jane part of Bob's family? A friend? A colleague? Do Bob and Jane know each other well? Or are they rather acquaintances? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 17 Registered: 7-2010 |
Is Jane Bob's enemy? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2063 Registered: 4-2010 |
Has Bob only have one enemy? Two? More? Several Does the threat refer to Bob's life? This... His family? Other persons? ...and this. His money? His reputation? His job? Are his enemies blackmailing him No... because of something he had done? ...but Yes. Is Jane part of Bob's family? No A friend? Yes A colleague? No Do Bob and Jane know each other well? Or are they rather acquaintances? Hmmm...they meet early on, and become closer over the course of the book. Is Jane Bob's enemy? No | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 20 Registered: 7-2010 |
Is Bob becoming closer to Jane relevant? Is romance involved? Is one of Bob's enemies in love with Jane? Or doesn't want Bob to be with her for some other reason? Does the threat refer to both Bob and Jane? Does Bob have to do something to save himself (and Jane, if the threat refers to her as well)? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2064 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is Bob becoming closer to Jane relevant? Book, yes. Puzzle, no. Is romance involved? See previous answer Is one of Bob's enemies in love with Jane? Book, yope. Puzzle, no. Or doesn't want Bob to be with her for some other reason? He does fall for her, but that's not relevant to the puzzle. Does the threat refer to both Bob and Jane? Yes Does Bob have to do something to save himself (and Jane, if the threat refers to her as well)? Yes | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 21 Registered: 7-2010 |
So the enemies let Bob and Jane live if Bob does something? For them? Within a certain time? And if he slept, he wouldn't be able to make it in time? If Bob's health is sort of important, is the kind of impairment relative? Something acute? An injury? Something chronic? Requiring regular intake of medication? A disability? A mental disorder? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2067 Registered: 4-2010 |
So the enemies let Bob and Jane live if Bob does something? No, FA For them? Within a certain time? And if he slept, he wouldn't be able to make it in time? No, although time is relevant, though not in the way you're probably thinking. If Bob's health is sort of important, is the kind of impairment relative? No, FA Something acute? An injury? Something chronic? Requiring regular intake of medication? A disability? A mental disorder? None of these | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 25 Registered: 7-2010 |
Does Bob have to stay awake in order to protect himself and Jane? To fight his enemies? Did the enemies threat to attack them but Bob and Jane don't know when? Is a kidnapping involved? Does the book exist in RL? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2082 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does Bob have to stay awake in order to protect himself and Jane? Yes, but how? To fight his enemies? No Did the enemies threat to attack them but Bob and Jane don't know when? Yope, possible FA Is a kidnapping involved? Yesish Does the book exist in RL? Assuming I understand the question correctly, Yes. | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 34 Registered: 7-2010 |
Assuming there is a kidnapping, are have both Bob and Jane kidnapped? Only Bob? Only Jane? Someone else? Is delivery of ransom relevant? Single-handed freeing of the kidnapped person(s)? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2123 Registered: 4-2010 |
Assuming there is a kidnapping, are have both Bob and Jane kidnapped? No Only Bob? No Only Jane? Yesish Someone else? No Is delivery of ransom relevant? No Single-handed freeing of the kidnapped person(s)? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2190 Registered: 4-2010 |
HINT: "Fred" is me. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2565 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is sleep Bob's enemy simply because if he's asleep he will not be aware of approaching danger? Or is there more to it? Is it specifically sleep that is his enemy? Or would taking a rest (but not sleeping) be just as risky? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2221 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is sleep Bob's enemy simply because if he's asleep he will not be aware of approaching danger? Yes, but there's more. Or is there more to it? Yes Is it specifically sleep that is his enemy? Or would taking a rest (but not sleeping) be just as risky? Hmmm...thinking about it, it probably would be. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2587 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is he on the move? On the run? Is there a war? Did Bob kidnap Jane? Or did they run away together? Is Fred waiting for something? Is he not allowed to sleep? Is he trying to read the book, but has trouble staying awake? Trying to finish the book before a certain time? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2260 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is he on the move? Yes On the run? Yes Is there a war? Not at this point in the book. The war that comes later is irrel to the puzzle. Did Bob kidnap Jane? Yes, but potential FA Or did they run away together? Yope Is Fred waiting for something? No Is he not allowed to sleep? No Is he trying to read the book, but has trouble staying awake? No Trying to finish the book before a certain time? No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2592 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the kidnapping more of a rescue? Relevant who's chasing him? Are they running: on foot? Horseback? Driving a vehicle/craft? Passengers on a vehicle/draft? Are they on water? On a river? Are they trying to avoid bloodhounds? Will Jane cause trouble if Bob sleeps? If sleep always Fred's enemy? Or only at the moment? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2273 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the kidnapping more of a rescue? Yes Relevant who's chasing him? Not to the puzzle Are they running: on foot? Horseback? Driving a vehicle/craft? This Passengers on a vehicle/draft? Are they on water? On a river? No to rest Are they trying to avoid bloodhounds? No Will Jane cause trouble if Bob sleeps? No If sleep always Fred's enemy? Yesish Or only at the moment? Noish | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2600 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are they driving a: car? Bus? Tractor? Go-kart? Other vehicle? Airplane? Helicopter? Blimp? Other aircraft? Will they have to stop if he's going to sleep? Or will the vehicle/craft go out of control? Is that the whole reason sleep is his enemy? Is Fred narcoleptic? Does sleep take time away from something else? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2292 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are they driving a: car? This Bus? Tractor? Go-kart? Other vehicle? Airplane? Helicopter? Blimp? Other aircraft? No to rest Will they have to stop if he's going to sleep? Yes Or will the vehicle/craft go out of control? No Is that the whole reason sleep is his enemy? No. The closest guess so far is that he won't be able to detect incoming danger...continue on this angle. Is Fred narcoleptic? No Does sleep take time away from something else? Yes... | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2608 Registered: 9-2009 |
Can he stop? Or does he have to keep driving? Does he need the headlights to be able to spot the danger? Is it night? Is the danger in the form of people in another car? More cars? Helicopter(s) involved? Is he trying to hide? Blend in? In traffic? Does Fred fleeping take time away from: school? Schoolwork? Chores? Free time? Computer gaming? Being with friends? Getting into trouble/doing mischief? Having fun? Trying to stay awake the longest? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2304 Registered: 4-2010 |
Can he stop? Sometimes... Or does he have to keep driving? Usually Does he need the headlights to be able to spot the danger? No Is it night? It's over the course of a couple days. Is the danger in the form of people in another car? More cars? Helicopter(s) involved? Yes to all three Is he trying to hide? This Blend in? In traffic? No to rest Does Fred fleeping take time away from: school? Schoolwork? Chores? Free time? Computer gaming? This is closest. Being with friends? Getting into trouble/doing mischief? Having fun? Trying to stay awake the longest? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2629 Registered: 9-2009 |
Can he stop, but must be able to get moving as soon as he detects danger? Does he need to: hear danger? See danger? Sense danger in some other way? Does he use some electronic equipment to help detect danger? Can she not do it instead of him? Does he have any supernatural powers? --- Instead of sleeping does Fred want to: play games online? Offline? Spend time on the LTPF? On another website? On doing something else on the computer? Like programming? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2348 Registered: 4-2010 |
Can he stop, but must be able to get moving as soon as he detects danger? Only if he knows there's no nearby danger. Does he need to: hear danger? No See danger? Yope to this... Sense danger in some other way? ...but this, mostly. Does he use some electronic equipment to help detect danger? No Can she not do it instead of him? Correct Does he have any supernatural powers? Yes, with a very tiny ish --- Instead of sleeping does Fred want to: play games online? Offline? Spend time on the LTPF? This ;-) On another website? On doing something else on the computer? Like programming? | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 839 Registered: 6-2009 |
Is Bob a superhero? Supervillain? If so, one we might have heard of, or specific to this book? Is his power mental? physical? Can he read minds? Control people's minds? Track people? See the future? Turn invisible? Stop time? Travel in time? Detect lies? Fly? Turn into something? Kill people? Cause pain? Does he have super strength? Super speed? Super sight? Super hearing? Super some other sense? A "sixth sense"? Something involving ghosts? Aliens? Demons? Some other non-real world living thing? I think that's all the supernatural powers I can think of... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2353 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is Bob a superhero? No Supervillain? No If so, one we might have heard of, or specific to this book? Specific to the book Is his power mental? physical? Can he read minds? Control people's minds? Track people? See the future? This - in fact, he can see all potential futures. Turn invisible? Stop time? Travel in time? Detect lies? Fly? Turn into something? Kill people? Cause pain? Does he have super strength? Super speed? Super sight? Super hearing? Super some other sense? A "sixth sense"? Something involving ghosts? Aliens? Demons? Some other non-real world living thing? I think that's all the supernatural powers I can think of... I think that's all the pieces. If someone wants to put it all together, please do so; else I'll $poyle in a while. | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 843 Registered: 6-2009 |
So Bob and Jane are fleeing from his enemies in a car, and since he can see every possible future, he can always stay a few steps ahead of them. But sleep is his enemy, because if he stops keeping an eye on the futures to sleep, they might catch up. Or maybe the only futures in which he sees them catching up are the ones where he falls asleep. But reading this book, you think to yourself that sleep is your enemy too, because when you fall asleep you miss out on LTPF fun. That about right? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2365 Registered: 4-2010 |
So Bob and Jane are fleeing from his enemies in a car, and since he can see every possible future, he can always stay a few steps ahead of them. But sleep is his enemy, because if he stops keeping an eye on the futures to sleep, they might catch up. Correct Or maybe the only futures in which he sees them catching up are the ones where he falls asleep. Not this though But reading this book, you think to yourself that sleep is your enemy too, because when you fall asleep you miss out on LTPF fun. Correct That about right? More than that - it's exactly right! **********SPOILER********** The book is Blink, by Ted Dekker (which I highly recommend). "Bob" is college student Seth Border, who has an IQ higher than Einstein, and one day finds himself with the ability to see multiple possible futures. He uses this ability to rescue fugitive Saudi princess Miriam ("Jane" in the puzzle), who has fled her country because of oppression. While the two of them are on the run, he uses his ability to see where the police and Saudi assassins are, and the paths they are going to take, in order to remain safe. However, Seth cannot sleep for more than a short while, because when he does, he cannot see the futures and the police/Saudi assassins can catch up to them. Meanwhile, one night about three weeks ago, I was thinking about this book while on the LTPF. I realized that in a way, sleep is my enemy too, because while I'm asleep, I can't be here having fun. (I remember once, a puzzle was started and solved in one night, all while I was asleep. If memory serves me right, it was Alhucema's rerpsing puzzle.) Kudos go to Potato and Galfisk for the groundwork, and Ohlala for the final chapter. |
