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That's my first puzzle after ages, and may be a quickie, but still, here's to you...

Just be there and you'll get it for free!
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"It" - a tangible thing? An idea? A disease? "There" - geographical location? Relevant the exact place? If not being "there", can one get "it" for a price?
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If you weren't there, would you: not get it at all? Have to pay for it? Is "it" an object? A disease? Is "there" a location? A building? A website?
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"It" - a tangible thing? This An idea? A disease? No to rest
"There" - geographical location? Yesish Relevant the exact place? Yes If not being "there", can one get "it" for a price? Yes

If you weren't there, would you: not get it at all? Have to pay for it? This Is "it" an object? This is closest A disease? Is "there" a location? This, for some definition of "location" A building? A website? No to these
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Is "it" an experience? A ride? Something you can take home with you? Is a promotional event relevant? A grand opening? Is it food? Or drink? Is the puzzle statement true?
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Does "there" refers to a particular town/country/continent or is more like a physical feature like "mountain" or "sea"? If the latter is true, could you get "it" for free in a similar location elsewhere? If you are not "there" can you get "it" (and pay a price) in a store? Order it on the Internet? Have someone deliver "it" at your home?
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Is "it" an experience? A ride? Something you can take home with you? No to all these Is a promotional event relevant? Yesish A grand opening? No Is it food? This Or drink? And this Is the puzzle statement true? Yes it is
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Does "there" refers to a particular town/country/continent Yesish or is more like a physical feature like "mountain" or "sea"? No to these If the latter is true, could you get "it" for free in a similar location elsewhere? So no If you are not "there" can you get "it" (and pay a price) in a store? This-ish Order it on the Internet? Have someone deliver "it" at your home? No to these
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Is "There" in N. America? S. America? Europe? Asia? Africa? Australia and Oceania? Antarctica?
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Is time relevant? Do you have to be there at a specific date in order to get it for free? A specific season? A specific month? Can you be there and still not be able to get it for free?
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Is "There" in N. America? S. America? Europe? This Asia? Africa? Australia and Oceania? Antarctica?

Is time relevant? Yesish Do you have to be there at a specific date in order to get it for free? A specific season? A specific month? No to all Can you be there and still not be able to get it for free? Yes you can
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Is "there" in [LTPF list of European countries]? Can you get "it" outside the country? In another continent? Is "it" something natural or something processed through human intervention? Is "there" a specific town? Village? Commune? Region?
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Is "there" in [LTPF list of European countries]? in UK Can you get "it" outside the country? Maybe, but irrel. In another continent? Ditto Is "it" something natural or something processed through human intervention? I'd say the latter. Galfisk has already found out that it is some food and drink, btw. Is "there" a specific town? Yope Village? Commune? Region? No to rest
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Quick thought: Is it some kind of beer or ale? If so, is "there" a local brewery?
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Is it a specific food? A specific drink? Alcohol involved? Is there an event? A celebration? An anniversary? Is a specific company involved?
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Quick thought: Is it some kind of beer or ale? No If so, is "there" a local brewery? So no

Is it a specific food? Yesish A specific drink? No Alcohol involved? No Is there an event? A celebration? An anniversary? No to all Is a specific company involved? Yes!
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You get it for free at the company HQ? At the production facilities? All-over the town? You need to register in advance to get it for free? You need some kind of a permit? You need to do something to receive it (other than paying for it)? Win a contest? A lottery? Is it food for humans? For animals?
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You get it for free at the company HQ? No At the production facilities? FA All-over the town? You need to register in advance to get it for free? No to these You need some kind of a permit? Yesish You need to do something to receive it (other than paying for it)? Yes Win a contest? A lottery? No to all Is it food for humans? This For animals?
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Is it a food manufacturing company? A store? Restaurant? Does the company have anything to do with food? Relevant exactly what kind of food it is? What kind of drink?
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Is it a food manufacturing company? A store? Restaurant? This Does the company have anything to do with food? So yes Relevant exactly what kind of food it is? What kind of drink? No to both
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Is the restaurant having a grand opening? Grand re-opening? Just a simple promotion? Are they holding a contest? The free food - is it given as a one-time thing? Or over a period of time (i.e. eat here free for life)?
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Is the restaurant having a grand opening? Grand re-opening? Just a simple promotion? This Are they holding a contest? No to rest The free food - is it given as a one-time thing? This, but irrel. Or over a period of time (i.e. eat here free for life)?
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Is the promotion for the first x number of customers? Do you just have to show up? Or do something else? If so, does the "something else" help the restaurant's business? Or is it more quirky?
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Is it free food served at the restaurant? Given away? In specifics days of the week? Between certain hours? Up to a prespecified equivalent monetary amount? To specific categories of people? (students, unemployed, returning customers) Do you need to buy something else to qualify for the free offering?
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Is the promotion for the first x number of customers? Do you just have to show up? No to these Or do something else? Yes, that's the "being there" from the puzzle statement If so, does the "something else" help the restaurant's business? Not really Or is it more quirky? Neither, just plain promotion

Is it free food served at the restaurant? Yes Given away? In specifics days of the week? Between certain hours? Up to a prespecified equivalent monetary amount? To specific categories of people? This-ish (students, unemployed, returning customers) But none of these Do you need to buy something else to qualify for the free offering? No to all the rest
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Do you need to be in a certain place? But not the restaurant, correct? Is it like a scavenger hunt? Is the place another place of business?
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Is it sports-related? Other public event? Does the ticket / other confirmation paper that says that "you've been there" serve as a voucher to be entitled to free food?
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Do you need an invitation? Competing restaurants relevant? Charity relevant?
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Do you need to be in a certain place? Yes But not the restaurant, correct? Correct Is it like a scavenger hunt? Is the place another place of business? No to both

Is it sports-related? Other public event? No to both Does the ticket / other confirmation paper that says that "you've been there" serve as a voucher to be entitled to free food? Not exactly, but OTRT!
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Do you need an invitation? Yesish Competing restaurants relevant? Charity relevant? No to rest
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Is the other place a public building? Is it a building? Is it on land? In the middle of nowhere? In the city? Suburbs? Rural area? Desert? Tundra? Swamp? Underwater? (Okay, that might be a stretch)
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Is the other place a public building? No, with tiny tiny ish Is it a building? No Is it on land? In the middle of nowhere? In the city? This Suburbs? Rural area? Desert? Tundra? Swamp? Underwater? (Okay, that might be a stretch) No to all the rest
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Is it marriage related?
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Is it marriage related? No
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Is it a park? Stadium? Is this sort of food and drink normally served in this location?
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Does the place require a pass? Ticket?
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So, the person requiring free food needs to show some proof of being 'there'.. correct? Is this proof some way of dressing up (like some kind of a medieval outfit or similar)? Is it a photograph or a painting? Tickets or other confirmation documents from family members? Testimonials from fellow participants?

The place -- is it a square? A street? A stadium?

Is there any connection between the 'there' name and the name of the restaurant? Between the investors / sponsors in both?
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Has the prize (free food) ever been awarded (likely to be awarded ?) or is it just a funny curiosity (kind of 'for a proof that you've ever walked on the Moon you get a free pizza')?

Going 'there' -- and qualifying for free food: can you do it alone? anyone could conceptually do it? sex of participants relevant?

England? Scotland? Wales? N. Ireland?
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Is it a park? Stadium? Is this sort of food and drink normally served in this location? No to all

Does the place require a pass? Ticket? Yes! But beware, this could be a great progress, but may also greatly mislead...

So, the person requiring free food needs to show some proof of being 'there'.. correct? Quite correct, yes Is this proof some way of dressing up (like some kind of a medieval outfit or similar)? Is it a photograph or a painting? Tickets or other confirmation documents from family members? Testimonials from fellow participants? No to all these. Much simpler, btw

The place -- is it a square? A street? A stadium? No to all

Is there any connection between the 'there' name and the name of the restaurant? Between the investors / sponsors in both? No to all, with a tiny -ish to the latter (sponsors)

Has the prize (free food) ever been awarded (likely to be awarded ?) Yes it is or is it just a funny curiosity (kind of 'for a proof that you've ever walked on the Moon you get a free pizza')? So no

Going 'there' -- and qualifying for free food: can you do it alone? Yes anyone could conceptually do it? Yes sex of participants relevant? No

England? This Scotland? Wales? N. Ireland?
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Is the proof a ticket stub? Entire ticket? Stamp or wristband?
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Is the proof a ticket stub? Entire ticket? Stamp or wristband? No to all. Btw "proof" is not the most appropriate term for it.
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Is it an object? Is it something you could only get 'there'?
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Is it an object? Sort of, yes Is it something you could only get 'there'? Yes, and under precise circumstances
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Is it made from: plastic? Metal? Wood? Paper? Textile? Leather? Hair/fur? Animals? Plants? Rubber? Stone? Ink? Is there a relevant text or symbol? Is it stuck to your body? Is it a mark? Is it a needle mark from giving blood?
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Is it made from: plastic? Metal? Wood? Paper? This Textile? Leather? Hair/fur? Animals? Plants? Rubber? Stone? Ink? And thisish Is there a relevant text or symbol? Oh yeah Is it stuck to your body? Is it a mark? Is it a needle mark from giving blood? No to all rest
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Relevant how the text/symbol is produced? If so: stamped? Printed? Burnt? Is it text? If it's text, is it relevant exactly what is says? If it's a symbol, is it a well known one?
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Relevant how the text/symbol is produced? No If so: stamped? Printed? This, but again, irrel. Burnt? Is it text? There is text, yes If it's text, is it relevant exactly what is says? Not the exact words, but the general meaning yes If it's a symbol, is it a well known one? There's a symbol too, though not a known one
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Is it a card? Some kind of diploma? Or certificate? Do you have to pay for it? Would everyone who went "there" have one? Were they expected to hang on to it? Is it valuable, beyond the free meal thing?
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Is it a card? This is closest Some kind of diploma? Or certificate? Do you have to pay for it? No to these Would everyone who went "there" have one? Yes, though another condition is needed Were they expected to hang on to it? Could you rephrase please? I'm not sure I correctly understand the meaning of "hang on to it"... my english is not good enough :P Is it valuable, beyond the free meal thing? No
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Were they expected to not throw it away? Did they have to do something while there, in order to get a card? To participate in something? To help with something? Or is the other condition not related to being there?
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Were they expected to not throw it away? Let's say that whoever got the "card" knew that he had to keep it and not to throw it away in order to get the free meal
Did they have to do something while there, in order to get a card? To participate in something? To help with something? No to all
Or is the other condition not related to being there? Hard to answer without giving a hint... It is related to being there, but let's say that the person who eventually gets the free meal has only to be there, without doing anything else
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Did they need to show up and: watch something? Look for something? Hear something? Listen to something? Wait patiently? Eat something? Drink something?
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Did they need to show up* and: watch something? Look for something? Hear something? Listen to something? This is closest, but again, may mislead Wait patiently? Eat something? Drink something? No to the rest, though "Look for something" could have a tiny -ish
* "show up" is a misleading expression too, may hide a FA
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Do they need to go anywhere? Stay home? Fill out a form? Listen for something?

On a radio station in my state, they do a contest where they play a certain song, and the 10th caller once that song is played wins a prize. Is it anything like that?
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Just to make sure we are on the right track: The 'there' is in the city, but it is not a building, a street, a square, a stadium or a park. Correct? If this is correct, is 'there' situated in one of the above ? (a certain part of a building, street, square, stadium, park) The second condition is related to the person receiving the card? To some other persons? Are they (the cards) in limited number?
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Do they need to go anywhere? Stay home? Fill out a form? Listen for something? No to all, once again noish for the latter, but may mislead, so assume no

On a radio station in my state, they do a contest where they play a certain song, and the 10th caller once that song is played wins a prize. Is it anything like that? No, nothing like that, except the principle of the two conditions: in your example, the radio has to play the song and you have to be the 10th caller, here you have to be there and... something else

Just to make sure we are on the right track: Good idea :-)
The 'there' is in the city, but it is not a building, a street, a square, a stadium or a park. Correct? All correct If this is correct, is 'there' situated in one of the above ? (a certain part of a building, street, square, stadium, park) No, in any of them
The second condition is related to the person receiving the card? To some other persons? This! Good point! Are they (the cards) in limited number? Probably yes, but irrel.
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Are the other persons celebrities? Other participants? The sponsors? Could they be considered hosts?
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Are the other persons celebrities? Other participants? The sponsors? This is closest Could they be considered hosts? No to the rest
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Is the "there" a parking lot? Is it paved? Grassy? Are the other persons at the place as well? Do you have to find them in order to win?
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Is the "there" a parking lot? Is it paved? Grassy? No to all Are the other persons at the place as well? Yes Do you have to find them in order to win? No
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Is the place at ground level? In the water? At a high altitude? Do you have to talk to the other persons? Are the other persons in disguise?
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Is the place at ground level? Yesish In the water? At a high altitude? No to these Do you have to talk to the other persons? Yes Are the other persons in disguise? They could, but assume no, irrel. anyway
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Do you have to say a specific thing? Ask a question? Give an answer?
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Do you have to say a specific thing? Ask a question? Give an answer? No to all

HINT: Try to understand what is "where". The rest will follow.
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Is "there" in a vehicle? Bus, tram, other public transport vehicle? Is it a physical space? (as opposed to a chat room on the Internet for example) Does it have a cover (roof, etc) or is it in open air?
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Is "there" in a vehicle? YES! Bus, tram, other public transport vehicle? Other public transport, yes! Is it a physical space? (as opposed to a chat room on the Internet for example) Does it have a cover (roof, etc) or is it in open air? So yes to the rest too
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Trolleybus? Subway? Boat? Train?
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Trolleybus? Subway? This. Now Explore... Boat? Train?
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Are there people in the subway giving you advertisement flyers about the restaurant with which you can get a free meal? The persons you have to interact with are: at the entrance? Immediately after entrance? On the platform? In the wagons?
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Are there people in the subway giving you advertisement flyers about the restaurant with which you can get a free meal? Very close, but some fundamental details missing The persons you have to interact with are: at the entrance? Immediately after entrance? On the platform? In the wagons? This
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Do the people whom you interact (talk) with the same as the people giving the cards / flyers? Do they talk to you first or you should talk first? Is the interaction triggered by doing something specific (sitting, standing, eating, talking on the phone, other thing)?
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Do the people whom you interact (talk) with the same as the people giving the cards / flyers? Not clear... do you mean "are" they the same? Then the answer is yes
Do they talk to you first or you should talk first? They talk first Is the interaction triggered by doing something specific Yes! (sitting This-ish, standing, eating, talking on the phone, other thing)? No to rest
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Sorry, my mistake, indeed I meant "are" they the same

The action you do -- involves some other people (like standing up and giving your seat to elderly people) or is something that involves only you? The action is something that you would normally expect in a subway or something more bizarre (like sitting on the floor, for example)?
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The action you do -- involves some other people (like standing up and giving your seat to elderly people) or is something that involves only you? Only me The action is something that you would normally expect in a subway or something more bizarre (like sitting on the floor, for example)? Something very normal
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Is the action you do related to the fact that you will receive free food (as opposed to free pens, for example)? Should you read something? Listen to something?
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Is the action you do related to the fact that you will receive free food (as opposed to free pens, for example)? No Should you read something? No, but... Listen to something? No
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Do you need to take a flyer? Sit in a specific seat? Respond to them? Change cars?
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Are certain flyers "marked," so only those people win? (i.e. some have a red stamp on them, and only the people with those flyers win)
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Do you need to take a flyer? Yes Sit in a specific seat? YES! Main point! Respond to them? Yes also Change cars? No

Are certain flyers "marked," so only those people win? (i.e. some have a red stamp on them, and only the people with those flyers win) No
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Is sitting in the specific seat the main thing you need to do to win? Relevant which car the seat is in? Is the seat towards the front? Back? Left side? Right side?
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Is sitting in the specific seat the main thing you need to do to win? Exactly! Relevant which car the seat is in? No Is the seat towards the front? Back? Left side? Right side? Irrel. to all
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Is the seat marked in some way? Are more than one seat available in a particular train? A particular car? Do you know that by sitting there you are eligible for receiving the flyer? Can you seat there and receive nothing?
If you don't respond to them when approached you cannot receive the flyer? Are they asking something to which you should respond correctly in order to win?
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Is the seat marked in some way? Exactly, and you have to find in which way :-) Are more than one seat available in a particular train? A particular car? Maybe, but irrel. to both Do you know that by sitting there you are eligible for receiving the flyer? Yesish Can you seat there and receive nothing? Yes you can
If you don't respond to them when approached you cannot receive the flyer? True, but not likely to happen... Are they asking something to which you should respond correctly in order to win? Not really, no
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Is it marked by a physical marking? By someone sitting in it? Near it? In a seat near it? An item on it? Near it? In a seat near it?
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Is it marked by a physical marking? This is closest By someone sitting in it? Near it? In a seat near it? An item on it? Near it? In a seat near it? No to all the rest
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Is something written on the seat? Scratched into it? Stuck to it? Under it?
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Is it some sort of geocache?
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Incidentally, is this a true story about the London Underground? (In which case, the odds of getting a vacant seat are about the same as walking on the moon, and I'd expect a free pizza at the very least :-))

If I (or an average London commuter) saw the marking, would I instantly know that there was some sort of promotion going on? Would I be likely to mistake it for something else? Or would I only look for the marking after speaking to the promotions people on the Tube?

Do the people on the Tube give me the papery ticket-like thing when I spot the marking? And then I go to the restaurant and swap said papery thing for a meal?

Does the marking have a distinctive shape? Like the Golden Arches or such? Are scratchcards relevant at all?
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Is something written on the seat? Scratched into it? Stuck to it? Under it? No to all, but keep searching this way

Is it some sort of geocache? Thanks for teaching me a new word, but no, no geocaching relevant :-)

Incidentally, is this a true story about the London Underground? Yes!
(In which case, the odds of getting a vacant seat are about the same as walking on the moon, and I'd expect a free pizza at the very least :-)) It's a true story that happened to me, and I DID get a vacant seat, but I entered the coach in Heatrow, starting point of the line, that was easy ;-)

If I (or an average London commuter) saw the marking, would I instantly know that there was some sort of promotion going on? Probably yes, but so would every person on earth, no advantages in being londoner
Would I be likely to mistake it for something else? I don't think so Or would I only look for the marking after speaking to the promotions people on the Tube? No

Do the people on the Tube give me the papery ticket-like thing when I spot the marking? Noish... but OTRT
And then I go to the restaurant and swap said papery thing for a meal? This part is correct

Does the marking have a distinctive shape? No with a tiny tiny ish Like the Golden Arches or such? Are scratchcards relevant at all? No to these
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You got on at Heathrow, and sat down, right?

Did you see the marking before sitting down? After sitting down? Did you sit on the marking? Was the marking worked somehow into the fabric of the seat? The relevant people on the tube were in the same carriage, right? Did they mention the promotion before you saw the marking? Or after?

Are the straps above the seats relevant? What about the billboards with advertising: are they relevant?

Did these people approach you and tell you about the promotion?

Is there any promotional material printed on the ticket itself? Rather like those car parks? (I don't recall this, but in the Boris era, one never knows.) Are Oyster cards relevant at all?
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You got on at Heathrow, and sat down, right? Exactly, and written in a better english than mine :-)

Did you see the marking before sitting down? No After sitting down? Neither Did you sit on the marking? No Was the marking worked somehow into the fabric of the seat? No The relevant people on the tube were in the same carriage, right? Yes Did they mention the promotion before you saw the marking? Yes! Or after? So no

Are the straps above the seats relevant? No What about the billboards with advertising: are they relevant? YES!

Did these people approach you and tell you about the promotion? Exactly!

Is there any promotional material printed on the ticket itself? If you talk about the tube ticket, then no Rather like those car parks? (I don't recall this, but in the Boris era, one never knows.) Are Oyster cards relevant at all? No
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So there's a particular advertisement on the Tube, and whoever sits in the seat directly under it gets approached by the mystery people who dispense a free meal? Is that close? Is the advertisement actually the 'marking'? Would you know, if you had looked up at the billboard, that you would get a free meal by sitting under it? Or does it have some sort of cryptic message? Are the people who dispense the free meal voucher dressed distinctively? Did you have to answer a question to get the free meal?
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So there's a particular advertisement on the Tube, and whoever sits in the seat directly under it gets approached by the mystery people who dispense a free meal? Is that close? More than close, it's actually everything that needed to be solved in the puzzle :-) Is the advertisement actually the 'marking'? Yes it is Would you know, if you had looked up at the billboard, that you would get a free meal by sitting under it? Yesish Or does it have some sort of cryptic message? It's not obvious, but gives hints Are the people who dispense the free meal voucher dressed distinctively? Not really, but irrel. Did you have to answer a question to get the free meal? No

I guess we're close enough to declare a

SPOILER:

I was in London last week, just landed in Heatrow, got into the tube to reach my hotel and sat on a seat which was just under a particular billboard. This billboard advertised a restaurant chain, with the advertising text saying approximately "Introduce this person to our delicious food", and an arrow indicating the seat.
I didn't notice the ad, sat there by pure chance, and then suddenly two guys, probably paid by the restaurant chain for promotion, approached me and told me that, just by sitting there, I was entitled to win a vaucher for 2 free meals in one of their restaurants.
This inspired me the puzzle "just be there (on that particular seat) and you'll get it (the meal) for free :-)
Thanks everybody for participating, Galfisk, Rbruma and Balin for the big investigation work and Woodworm for the final solving!
Will probably post a new puzzle this afternoon...
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That's a clever idea for a promotion (and a puzzle) - nice one!

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