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Mattiel (Mattiel)
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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 10:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My dad would probably have got it quickier...

The story is actually quite simple, so I decided on purpose not to give too many details. Hope you enjoy it!
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 2:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Got it = Understood something? solved something? Received something? caught a disease?

Quicker than you?

My = Your?

Dad = H? A? M?
Mattiel (Mattiel)
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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 2:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Got it = Understood something? This solved something? And a little bit of this too Received something? caught a disease? No to rest

Quicker than you? Yes

My = Your? Yes

Dad = H? A? M? Yes to all
Balin (Balin)
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LTPF relevant? Would he have solved one of your puzzles faster than we did?
Mattiel (Mattiel)
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LTPF relevant? Would he have solved one of your puzzles faster than we did? Nice try :-), but no to both
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"it": A tangible object? An intangible thing? An action? Would he have understood why you did something?
Mattiel (Mattiel)
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"it": A tangible object? This-ish... An intangible thing? An action? ... but mainly this Would he have understood why you did something? No
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Would he have understood the purpose of the action? Why you did the action the way you did?
Mattiel (Mattiel)
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Would he have understood the purpose of the action? Why you did the action the way you did? No to both
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Is the action done solo? Does it require an object to do? More than one? Is the action done indoors? Outdoors?
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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 3:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would he have understood how to do the action?
Mattiel (Mattiel)
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Is the action done solo? Does it require an object to do? More than one? Yes to all Is the action done indoors? This Outdoors?

Would he have understood how to do the action? Exactly.
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Does the action require a computer to do? Is the action done on a ocmputer? Does it require another electronic device? TV? Radio? Video game console? iPod? Is the action done in a specific room? Kitchen? Bathroom? Living room? Dining room? Garage? Attic? Library? Cellar?
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Is his occupation relevant? Him being older? Growing up during different times? Is the action difficult? In learning it, does it help to understand the purpose of the action? If so, did he have a better understanding of it that you? Or does it help to have done similar actions earlier? Or used similar objects? Or identical objects? Is the action part of a sport? Does it require: strength? Precision? Stamina? Is it done with: hands? Feet? Legs? Arms? Mouth? Head? Body?
Mattiel (Mattiel)
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Does the action require a computer to do? Is the action done on a ocmputer? No to both Does it require another electronic device? Yes TV? Radio? This is closest, but stil uncorrect Video game console? iPod? No to rest Is the action done in a specific room? Kitchen? Bathroom? Living room? This in my case, but could be whichever. Irrelevant anyway Dining room? Garage? Attic? Library? Cellar?

Is his occupation relevant? No Him being older? Yesish Growing up during different times? Yes, mainly this Is the action difficult? Not really In learning it, does it help to understand the purpose of the action? No If so, did he have a better understanding of it that you? So no Or does it help to have done similar actions earlier? Exactly Or used similar objects? This Or identical objects? But not this Is the action part of a sport? No Does it require: strength? Precision? Stamina? No to all Is it done with: hands? This Feet? Legs? Arms? Mouth? Head? Body?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 2:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the equipment contain a radio receiver? Or transmitter? A speaker? Is it a record player? Is the action some sort of adjustment? Tuning?
Mattiel (Mattiel)
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Does the equipment contain a radio receiver? Yope, irrel. Or transmitter? No A speaker? Yes Is it a record player? Noish, but explore! Is the action some sort of adjustment? Tuning? No to both
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 2:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the equipment old? Modern? Does it play music/audio? From cylinders? Or tape? Or discs?
Mattiel (Mattiel)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 2:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the equipment old? Modern? This Does it play music/audio? Yes From cylinders? Or tape? Or discs? This
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 2:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a CD player? Any CD player? Or is there something specific about this unit? Is the action: inserting a disc? Ejecting it? Cleaning it? Playing it? Programming it? Does the relevant experience involve record players? Laserdisc players? The early days of CD players?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 2:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Clarification: "programming it" = "programming the CD player (or whatever the device is)"
Mattiel (Mattiel)
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Is it a CD player? Yes Any CD player? No! Or is there something specific about this unit? Yes! Is the action: inserting a disc? This Ejecting it? Cleaning it? Playing it? Programming it? No to rest Does the relevant experience involve record players? Yes! Laserdisc players? The early days of CD players? No to rest

Very good round of questions!
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Relevant that in record players, you put the disc down with the playable side up? While in most CD players, you put it with the playable side down? Did this specific CD player require the disc to be inserted the other way around?
Mattiel (Mattiel)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 3:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant that in record players, you put the disc down with the playable side up? YES!!! While in most CD players, you put it with the playable side down? Yes again! Did this specific CD player require the disc to be inserted the other way around? Exactly!!!

Well it's already time for

****************** SPOILER *****************

Last weekend i was at my mum's place, she had bought a new cd player and asked me to set it up. I did all the connection, then tried to play a cd, but the player did not seem to work. After a while I noticed that the cd support had no hole for the laser light to pass, but it was plain and solid; I guessed the laser was placed above the disc support, so that the cd had to be put with playable side up, which indeed worked.

I wanted to use this story for a puzzle, so I supposed that someone who has mainly played vinyl records in his life, i.e. someone older enough than me such as my dad, would have got it immediately as it would have been logic for him to put the playable side of a disc up, just because vinyl records are played that way.

Well it was shorter than what I expected, but still I hope you enjoyed it! Thanks to everyone who played!

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