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"Hmm, I don't remember writing that."
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Was something written down? Text? Pictures? Did the speaker write it? Did someone else? Or was the text (or whatever it was) there with no one writing it? Is the speaker HAM? HAF?
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Was something written down? Text? Pictures? Did the speaker write it? Yes to all. Did someone else? Or was the text (or whatever it was) there with no one writing it? No. Is the speaker HAM? This. HAF?
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Amnesia relevant? Did he remember writing it? Are other people involved? Pregnancy relevant? Golf? Strawberries? Albatrosses? Former Soviet republics? The letter Q? Women's clothing? Vegetarianism? Veganism?

Did he write it in the last: second? minute? hour? Day? Week? Fortnight? Month? Year? Decade? Century? Millenium?

Is the time period relevant? The location?

Other people relevant?
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Amnesia relevant? No. Did he remember writing it? Eventually. Are other people involved? Yes. Pregnancy relevant? Golf? Strawberries? Albatrosses? Former Soviet republics? The letter Q? Women's clothing? Vegetarianism? Veganism? None of these.

Did he write it in the last: second? minute? hour? Day? Week? Fortnight? Month? Year? Decade? This. Century? Millenium?

Is the time period relevant? Yes. The location? A couple locations.

Other people relevant? Yes.
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Time period: [LTPF list of centuries]
Location: [LTPF list of continents]

Other people: 1? 2? 3? 4? More? Are they HAM? HAF?

Can we call him Luis?
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Time period: [LTPF list of centuries] 20th.
Location: [LTPF list of continents] Asia.

Other people: 1? An organization. 2? 3? 4? More? Are they HAM? HAF?

Can we call him Luis? His name's Fred.
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So Fred, aka Luis, wrote the text, right? Relevant what language he wrote it in? Is Fred part of the organization? Is the specific country relevant? If so, is it in the Middle East? Far East? Orient?
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Asia: Mideast? South? Southeast? Central? East? Siberia?
20th century: Aughts? Teens? 20s? 30s? 40s? 50s? 60s? 70s? 80s? 90s?
War relevant? His nationality relevant? His age? Occupation? Religion? Race/ethnicity? Political affiliation/views?
Did Fred found the organization? Is he its head? Is he an enemy of it? Are any specific members other than Fred relevant?
Is Fred a criminal? Is the note handwritten? Typed? Did he consciously write it? Does he agree with the note now?
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So Fred, aka Luis, wrote the text, right? Yes. Relevant what language he wrote it in? Mildly. Is Fred part of the organization? No. Is the specific country relevant? There are actually (thinks) four. If so, is it in the Middle East? Far East? All are this. Orient? One is debateably this.

Asia: Mideast? South? This. Southeast? This. Central? Ish. East? Siberia?
20th century: Aughts? Teens? 20s? 30s? This. 40s? And this. 50s? 60s? 70s? 80s? 90s?
War relevant? Yes. His nationality relevant? Yes. His age? No - thirtysomething. Occupation? Yes. Religion? No. Race/ethnicity? No. Political affiliation/views? No.
Did Fred found the organization? No. Is he its head? No. Is he an enemy of it? No. Are any specific members other than Fred relevant? No.
Is Fred a criminal? No. Is the note handwritten? FA. Typed? This. Did he consciously write it? Yes. Does he agree with the note now? Yes, and FA.
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Is the text a note? List?
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Is the text a note? List? No.
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Southeast: Modern-day: Myanmar? Thailand? Laos Cambodia? Vietnam? Malaysia? Indonesia? Borneo? East Timor? Philippines?
Language: Afroasiatic? Altaic? Amerindian? Australian? Austro-asiatic? Austronesian? Caucasian? Dené-Yeniseian? Dravidian? Eskimo-Aleut? Indo-European? Khoisan? Kradai? Niger-Congo? Nilo-Saharan? Paleosiberian? Papuan? Sino-Tibetan? Uralic? An isolate? A pidgin or creole? An artificial language?
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Southeast: Modern-day: Myanmar? This. Thailand? Laos Cambodia? Vietnam? Malaysia? Indonesia? Borneo? East Timor? Philippines?
Language: Afroasiatic? Altaic? Amerindian? Australian? Austro-asiatic? Austronesian? Caucasian? Dené-Yeniseian? Dravidian? Eskimo-Aleut? Indo-European? Khoisan? Kradai? Niger-Congo? Nilo-Saharan? Paleosiberian? Papuan? Sino-Tibetan? Uralic? An isolate? A pidgin or creole? An artificial language? No freakin' idea. English. :p
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Myanmar's name change from Burma relevant? Ruling junta relevant?
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Blooper: The Southeast Asian location is Malaysia, not Myanmar. Sorry!
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Tsunami relevant?
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Tsunami relevant? No.
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Was Fred a writer? A politician? Was the text length similar to a line? A page? A book? The organization -- is it a political one? Was Fred an inhabitant of Malaysia? A native? Could the whole event have taken place in, say, Europe? Did he actually forget writing the text or was he lying? To avoid some repercussions? Is this a true story?
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Was Fred a writer? This, and other things. A politician? Was the text length similar to a line? A page? A book? This. The organization -- is it a political one? No. Was Fred an inhabitant of Malaysia? For a time. A native? No. Could the whole event have taken place in, say, Europe? Yes. Did he actually forget writing the text or was he lying? Neither, really, but the former is OTRT. To avoid some repercussions? No. Is this a true story? Yes.
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Was the text a book? Did Fred not know he'd written the text? Had he done a basic outline? But someone else wrote the story? And since Fred did the work, he'd get the credit? Even though he hadn't "written it," so to say?
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Was the text a book? Yope. Did Fred not know he'd written the text? Correct. Had he done a basic outline? But someone else wrote the story? And since Fred did the work, he'd get the credit? Even though he hadn't "written it," so to say? None of these, though you are starting to maybe circle around relevance.
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Was he asked something like "Did you write this?" and he couldn't remember? If so, is it relevant: by whom? why? how? (in writing, personally face-to-face?) If I understood correctly, it was something the size of a book, but not actually a book, right? Was it a work of fiction? Already published or just a manuscript? Was it an accountant's book? Something like a personal diary? Did it harm the organization in some way?
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Was he asked something like "Did you write this?" and he couldn't remember? No. If so, is it relevant: by whom? why? how? (in writing, personally face-to-face?) If I understood correctly, it was something the size of a book, but not actually a book, right? No, no, books are involved. Was it a work of fiction? No. Already published This. or just a manuscript? Was it an accountant's book? No. Something like a personal diary? Close; journals. Did it harm the organization in some way? No.
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So, is it correct to assume that one day he was browsing his previously published journals and stumbled upon a particular text which made him make the remark in the puzzle? Did the organization (or parts thereof) appeared in the text? Did he forget that he was writing in the journals themselves or the text was describing him writing something and he couldn't remember that he did that? Was he native of [LTPF list of continents]?
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So, is it correct to assume that one day he was browsing his previously published journals Noish. and stumbled upon a particular text which made him make the remark in the puzzle? By text, do you mean "book," or "phrase/sentence/paragraph?" Did the organization (or parts thereof) appeared in the text? No. Did he forget that he was writing in the journals themselves or the text was describing him writing something and he couldn't remember that he did that? Neither. Was he native of [LTPF list of continents]? Europe.
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Were they medical journals? Personal journals? Was the "particular text" one of the journals? A word? Phrase? Sentence? Paragraph? Idea?
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By text I mean phrase / paragraph. Was he a native of [LTPF list of European countries]? Were the journals some sort of an autobiography or were fictional in nature? Maybe a biography of another person? Was he not remembering something or just reading aloud from a phrase in which the character says those words? Was he reading anything at all while uttering this sentence? Hearing something at the radio? Was the organization a religion-related one? Relevant what he did, besides being a writer? Was he an ambassador of some sort?
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Were they medical journals? Personal journals? Thisish. Was the "particular text" one of the journals? This is closest. A word? Phrase? Sentence? Paragraph? Idea?

By text I mean phrase / paragraph. No, then. Was he a native of [LTPF list of European countries]? England. Were the journals some sort of an autobiography This. or were fictional in nature? Maybe a biography of another person? No. Was he not remembering something No. or just reading aloud from a phrase in which the character says those words? No. Was he reading anything at all while uttering this sentence? Yes. Hearing something at the radio? No. Was the organization a religion-related one? No. Relevant what he did, besides being a writer? Yes. Was he an ambassador of some sort? Not officially, but you could say that, yes.
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Was he reading one of the autobiographies? His own autobiography? And he read something that he did not remember writing? Saying?
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Was he reading one of the autobiographies? You've got an FA. His own autobiography? Yes. And he read something that he did not remember writing? This. Saying?
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Was he not remembering writing: the book itself? some parts of it? something that the book mentioned as being written by him (like a letter ten years ago)? A check? Money involved?
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Was he not remembering writing: the book itself? This. some parts of it? something that the book mentioned as being written by him (like a letter ten years ago)? A check? Money involved?
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Was it something specific about the book that kept him from remembering writing it? Was it written in some unusual circumstances (during a war, something like that)?
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Was it something specific about the book that kept him from remembering writing it? Yes. Was it written in some unusual circumstances (during a war, something like that)? The part that confused him was.
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To make myself clear, is it something specific about the physical book (that he holds in his hands) that kept him from remembering it, or another copy will do just fine? (I am interested if the physical properties of the object are at stake here, or the information therein).
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To make myself clear, is it something specific about the physical book (that he holds in his hands) that kept him from remembering it, or another copy will do just fine? Another copy of the same book would elicit the same reaction. Hint: You are the first to suggest that he picks up the book -- good thinking! (I am interested if the physical properties of the object are at stake here, or the information therein). Neither actually... ;)
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Is the length of the book? Weight? Type of cover (paperback, hardcover, leather-bound, etc.)?
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Is the length of the book? Weight? Type of cover (paperback, hardcover, leather-bound, etc.)? None of these (remember, physical properties are irrelevant).
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Is the book's title relevant?
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Is the book's title relevant? Yes, though you don't need to know what it is.
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Does the title have Fred's name in it?
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Does the title have Fred's name in it? Irr, though he is listed as the author.
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Was the autobiography in several parts? Several volumes? Did he pick up the book? The entirety of it?
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Was the autobiography in several parts? Yes. Several volumes? No. Did he pick up the book? Yes. The entirety of it? Yes.
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Did he make the statement after reading text? In the book? On the cover?
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Did he make the statement after reading text? Yes. In the book? On the cover? This.
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Was the relevant text he read the title? His name (the author's name)?
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Was the relevant text he read the title? His name (the author's name)? Both.
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Did he not remember writing a book with that title? Had the title been changed?
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Did he not remember writing a book with that title? Yes. Had the title been changed? Yes.

Next question: Why didn't the publishers inform him of this?
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Did the publishers inform anyone of the change? Did they think they'd inform him? Did they inform someone else with the same name? Did the command to inform him get passed down the chain, but somehow it was assumed that he'd been informed? Did they inform someone else who was supposed to inform him? His wife?
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Did the publishers inform anyone of the change? Yes. Did they think they'd inform him? Did they inform someone else with the same name? Did the command to inform him get passed down the chain, but somehow it was assumed that he'd been informed? Did they inform someone else who was supposed to inform him? His wife? No to all the rest.
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Did they, in fact, inform Fred of the change? Only he'd forgotten?
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Did they, in fact, inform Fred of the change? No. Only he'd forgotten?
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Did they intend to inform Fred? Did they plan to? But changed their minds? Is the person whom they informed relevant?
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Did they intend to inform Fred? Did they plan to? But changed their minds? Is the person whom they informed relevant? No to all.
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So they never intended to inform Fred? Did they want to surprise him with the new title? Spite him? Did they have good reasons for not informing Fred of the change? Malicious reasons? Neutral reasons?
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So they never intended to inform Fred? Did they want to surprise him with the new title? Spite him? Did they have good reasons for not informing Fred of the change? Malicious reasons? Neutral reasons?
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So they never intended to inform Fred? Correct. Did they want to surprise him with the new title? Spite him? Neither. Did they have good reasons for not informing Fred of the change? Yep. Malicious reasons? Neutral reasons? Though it could be called neutral too.
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Just a short recap, to make sure I understood correctly: Fred didn't remember writing the book because its title was changed by the publishers without Fred being informed of that, correct?

Remaining to solve: why they didn't inform him. Correct? Anything else?

Is the reason they did not related to Fred's situation? The country he was in? His other profession?
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Just a short recap, to make sure I understood correctly: Fred didn't remember writing the book because its title was changed by the publishers without Fred being informed of that, correct? Yes.

Remaining to solve: why they didn't inform him. Correct? Yes. Anything else?

Is the reason they did not related to Fred's situation? The country he was in? His other profession? All three.
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Was his other profession illegal in the country he was in? Did the original title relate to that?
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Was his other profession illegal in the country he was in? At the time he saw the book, no. At the time the book was published, yes. Look out for FAs. Did the original title relate to that? No.
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Was his profession involved in entertainment? Media? Athletics? Literature? Education?
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Was his profession involved in entertainment? Media? Athletics? Literature? Education? None of these.
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Is his profession related to athletics? Food?

Could you please recap?
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Is his profession related to athletics? Food? Neither. Hint: This is yet another military puzzle.

Could you please recap?

Sometime in the early 20th century, Fred (who I will say was an explorer) published several journals from his exploration. Sometime later, unbeknownst to him, his publishers republished his work under a different title. He did not learn of this until he picked up a copy of the retitled book. The publishers had an impeccable reason for not informing him of their decision. What was it?
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Had he explored a military zone? And not realized it? Was Fred a civilian? So if it were revealed he'd been in the military zone, he would have been arrested? Otherwise gotten in trouble?
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Had he explored a military zone? Yes. And not realized it? Was Fred a civilian? So if it were revealed he'd been in the military zone, he would have been arrested? Otherwise gotten in trouble? No to the rest.
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So Fred was in the military? Was he an advance scout? Was the information he'd published classified? So the publishers had to change the title?
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So Fred was in the military? Yes. Was he an advance scout? Something like that. Was the information he'd published classified? No. So the publishers had to change the title? No.

You have an FA.
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Did his manuscript include military information? Cultural information?
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Did his manuscript include military information? No, still FA. Cultural information? Yes.
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Was his nationality relevant? Did the publisher not want people to know which country's military he had been a part of?

Does the book consist of pictures? musical compositions? (trying to clear the manuscript FA)
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Was his nationality relevant? Yes. Did the publisher not want people to know which country's military he had been a part of? Definite FA.

Does the book consist of pictures? musical compositions? (trying to clear the manuscript FA) It's just his journals.
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He was an explorer, correct? And he was in the military, correct? Was he an explorer for the military?
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He was an explorer, correct? Yes. And he was in the military, correct? Yes, but look out for an FA. Was he an explorer for the military? No.
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Was his military job involved with combat operations? Was he in surveillance?
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Was his military job involved with combat operations? Briefly. Was he in surveillance? In a sense, yes.
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Was he a secret agent?
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Was he a secret agent? Something like that.
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Was he from [LTPF list of continents]? Was he in the same country's military as his nationality?
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Was he from [LTPF list of continents]? Europe. Was he in the same country's military as his nationality? Yes.
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Was he British? French? Spanish? Italian? German? Russian? Swiss? Norwegian? Swedish? Finnish? Portuguese? Danish?
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Was he British? This. French? Spanish? Italian? German? Russian? Swiss? Norwegian? Swedish? Finnish? Portuguese? Danish?
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Was he in Malaysia as part of his military duty? As part of his "explorer" duty?
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Was he in Malaysia as part of his military duty? This. As part of his "explorer" duty?
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Was the book published in Malaysia? In Britain? Did the publishers only change the title? Or did they censor/redact/change parts of the actual manuscript as well?
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Was the book published in Malaysia? No. In Britain? Yes. Did the publishers only change the title? Yesish. Or did they censor/redact/change parts of the actual manuscript as well? No.
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Was Fred exploring Malaysia? For Britain? Was Britain still exploring Malaysia at the time the book was published? Was the title changed everywhere? Only in Britain? In Malaysia?
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Was Fred exploring Malaysia? For SVV of "exploration," yes, but irrelevant. For Britain? Yes. Was Britain still exploring Malaysia at the time the book was published? Irr. Was the title changed everywhere? To be clear, two of his previous books were republished as a compilation, under a single title. Only in Britain? This, although he came across the book in India. In Malaysia? He did not have access to the book in Malaysia.
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Were the publishers involved in the military as well? In the "exploration"? Was he scouting Malaysia? In preparation for an invasion?
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Were the publishers involved in the military as well? No. In the "exploration"? No. Was he scouting Malaysia? Yes. In preparation for an invasion? Yes.
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When the books were published, had the invasion occurred yet? Did they manuscript include classified details? Of the invasion?
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When the books were published, had the invasion occurred yet? When originally published, no. When republished under a different name, yes. Did they manuscript include classified details? No. Of the invasion? No.
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Were the publishers trying to hide Fred's involvement in the "exploration"/invasion?
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Were the publishers trying to hide Fred's involvement in the "exploration"/invasion? No.
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Did they change the title because the invasion had now occurred?
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Did they change the title because the invasion had now occurred? Their reason for changing the title is irrelevant. The question is why the author never found out, as you might expect authors to be notified of things like this.
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Was the book available in any area that Fred had explored?
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Was the book available in any area that Fred had explored? No.
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Did Fred even know the book had been published?
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Did Fred even know the book had been published? Originally? Yes. The new version? No.
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Let's see...

Is the original title relevant?

Could you please recap?
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Did they try to inform him of the change, but failed because they couldn't reach him? Had they informed him (as opposed to what really happened), would they have risked something bad happening to Fred? To the war effort? To some other people? To themselves?
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Is the original title relevant? No.

Could you please recap?

Sometime in the early 20th century, Fred, a British explorer, published several journals from his explorations (where they were is irrelevant, but he had visited Tibet and the polar regions). Sometime later, while he was serving as a soldier in Malaysia, his publishers republished his work under a different title, without informing him. They had a good, even obvious reason for not informing him. He did not learn of this until he picked up a copy of the retitled book when he returned to India.

Did they try to inform him of the change, No. but failed because they couldn't reach him? Had they informed him It never occurred to them to try. (as opposed to what really happened), would they have risked something bad happening to Fred? Possible, but doubtful. To the war effort? Unlikely. To some other people? No. To themselves? No.
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Did they think he was dead by the time the title was changed?
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Was the obvious reason for not informing him related to his actual location? Mission?

Relevant what exactly changed in the title? All the words? Just one word? Names? Geographical informations?
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Did they think he was dead by the time the title was changed? Yes!

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Freddy Spencer Chapman, an explorer and writer, joined the British Army in 1939. He ended up in Malaya during the Japanese invasion in early 1942, but escaped capture and spent the next three years living with Communist guerrillas. He was presumed dead for three years, and it was only after the war that he learned that his journals had been republished under a different title. He had to pick up a copy and open it before he recognized the book.

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